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Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:14:37
So anyone going???

Team for Tuesday

Evans

Collins O'Hanlon Ifil Smith

Shakes Jenkins Whalley Nicolau

Cureton Thorpe

Subs Bulman Nicholas Pook Robert Caton

(I am right in thinking Rory is still suspended arent i?? otherwise Rory in for Thorpe!)


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: JMH75 on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:21:54
You're probably spot on there.

Yes, Fallon is still out, hopefully Nicolau will replace Pook.

Pook had a shocker on Saturday which inevitably led to Smith having to cover too much ground. In the second half with Thorpe (I think) moving to the left Smith came into the game more and look good both defensively and going forward.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Barnard on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:30:44
If Migz is fit then he will come in at CM, Jenks may well revert back to right back, and Collins to drop to the bench.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Johno on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:37:46
if roberts is fit i would put him on the wing. i know he came as a striker, but i would prefer him on the wing than pook or Nicolau. also i dunno how good this  Nicolau is. maybe what i just said was stupid!


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:38:14
Steve Jenkins is not a central midfield player Michael Pook is.....playing him on the left its hardly surprising he didn't play too well......I once read a piece by Sturrock on what was the key to successful management.....he said he'd asked Ferguson for advice and the best thing he offered was...."don't ask people to do what they're not able to do"

 Seems pretty obvious, but if you ask Jenks to play central he'll say he can....but in fact he can't....same with Pook on the left..

 This is the worry... King seems unable to learn from past cock ups.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Sippo on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:43:19
I bet you King won't change the team....


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:47:24
Lack of a midfield ball winner in the squad needs to be addressed ...

On a different note .. someone said Rossi of Man Utd might be going out on a season long loan .. should we go for him?


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Whits on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:48:40
Quote

someone said Rossi of Man Utd might be going out on a season long loan .. should we go for him?


hes a striker ain't he?


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: McLovin on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:48:59
If we hava left winger in Nicola, surely he should be the one filling the left wing slot?  Just a thought.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:50:53
Yeah Rossi is a striker .. but he IS quality

We DESPERATELY need Horlock or Lomas now

 :cry:


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:56:49
Quote from: "fatbury"
Yeah Rossi is a striker .. but he IS quality

We DESPERATELY need Horlock or Lomas now

 :cry:


 There's no point in panicing.....I'm not sure of the fitness levels of either, also all evidence suggests that returning players after many years away never works out.....if they come back it needs to happen quickly.

  I think King blundered by getting Thorpe and Cureton.....one Cureton would have done, this would have freed up ssome money to encourage a midfield player to come....like Junior Lewis.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 8, 2005, 09:59:03
I cant bear the thought of League 2 .. League 1 is bad enuf!!

 :cry:  :cry:


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:05:55
Just looking at Oldham's squad on our site, how many strikers do they need?

Looks like the tribunal did them a favour when they signed Chris Porter!
 :P

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Match/UpNext/0,,10341~694458,00.html


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Nils on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:17:50
To be honest why the fuck did king loan in a right back when we have jenks and lapham.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: DiV on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:34:26
Id pick this team....

Evans

Jenkins
O'Hanlon
Ifil
Nicholas (Ithought Smith was awful)

Shakes
MIGLIORANZI (I'd make him captain as well)
Whalley
Nicolau

Roberts (Just because he offeres something a little different, Thorpe and Cureton are too the same)
Thorpe


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Barnard on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:35:16
Has Junior Lewis signed for anyone yet?


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Spud on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:38:53
Quote from: "Barnard"
Has Junior Lewis signed for anyone yet?


If he hasnt then i dont see why we shouldnt go in for him?.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Barnard on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:46:14
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "Barnard"
Has Junior Lewis signed for anyone yet?


If he hasnt then i dont see why we shouldnt go in for him?.


Totally agree, if he hasn't he's effectively unemployed and will need to sign for someone soon, lets make him the best offer the club can afford and put the ball in his court, a shit contract from Swindon is going to be better than no contract once the transfer window closes


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: McLovin on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:47:53
The transfer window doesn't apply for players who are 'unemployed', so he may still opt to wait.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: JMH75 on Monday, August 8, 2005, 11:49:58
Quote from: "DV85"
Id pick this team....

Nicholas (Ithought Smith was awful)



Bit harsh, he started off quite badly but came into the game the further it went on. Was left exposed on a number of occasions by Pook who was wandering around like a headless chicken and kept straying into centre midfield.

He looked one our better players in the second half after Thorpe was moved to the left.

As for Nicholas replacing him, please tell me it hasn't got that bad already!


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Monday, August 8, 2005, 12:00:57
Quote from: "Nils"
To be honest why the fuck did king loan in a right back when we have jenks and lapham.


Collins can also play centre back. I think Caton may play on the left tomorrow.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Dazzza on Monday, August 8, 2005, 12:03:19
Saw Oldham pre-season and they looked very average indeed, even with Beckett up front.  

That said it was partly down to having nearly a whole new team on the pitch and they looked a bit unorganised as you’d expect with that many new players. However they did show some real glimses of what they are capable off and should mature into a very strong team.

Going to be a very tough game, they have that much depth it puts our wafer thin squad in the shade.

Can’t see us getting anything more than a point at best.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Nils on Monday, August 8, 2005, 12:25:41
Quote from: "Barnard"
Has Junior Lewis signed for anyone yet?


Yea, signed for Watford ages ago. I'm sure I mentioned it but cant be arsed to find the link.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 8, 2005, 13:26:55
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Steve Jenkins is not a central midfield player Michael Pook is.....playing him on the left its hardly surprising he didn't play too well......I once read a piece by Sturrock on what was the key to successful management.....he said he'd asked Ferguson for advice and the best thing he offered was...."don't ask people to do what they're not able to do"

 Seems pretty obvious, but if you ask Jenks to play central he'll say he can....but in fact he can't....same with Pook on the left..

 This is the worry... King seems unable to learn from past cock ups.


Spot on there Reg, although in the past you can excuse King's mistakes as his hands have been tied behind his back, the choice to play Pook on the left and Jenkins in the middle when you've got a perfectly capable left-winger on the bench is somewhat confusing.

I don't understand why King has said Nicolau was poor in pre-season, he impressed me in both games I went to. I can only assume it's an attitude problem and we're going to see another Gareth Edds situation arise.

Personally I feel that the team picks itself if Stef is fit tomorrow and I'd hope we line up something alone the lines of:

Code:
             Evans
Jenkins   Ifil   O'Hanlon   Smith
Shakes    Migs   Whalley    Nicolau
          Thorpe Cureton


Possibly switching Nicolau for Caton and Thorpe for Roberts, but I feel the above lineup is simplest as everyone is in their natural position.

It's clear we're still lacking a solid central midfielder and until this is sorted I can see defeats like Barnsley becoming a regular occurence on the road, but we may cope at home.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: adje on Monday, August 8, 2005, 13:34:18
Quote from: "dazzza"
Saw Oldham pre-season and they looked very average indeed, even with Beckett up front.  

That said it was partly down to having nearly a whole new team on the pitch and they looked a bit unorganised as you’d expect with that many new players. However they did show some real glimses of what they are capable off and should mature into a very strong team.

Going to be a very tough game, they have that much depth it puts our wafer thin squad in the shade.

Can’t see us getting anything more than a point at best.










They did pretty well with 8 debutants on Sat-best we can hope for is a narrow victory.Will anyone be in the Merlin Tuesday-me and my lad are travelling up from Kent.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 8, 2005, 13:36:59
I think the Merlin is going to be at least half full of forumers, I'm the fat skinhead, that should narrow it down 8)


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, August 8, 2005, 13:44:07
Quote

I think the Merlin is going to be at least half full of forumers, I'm the fat skinhead, that should narrow it down


i am too a skin head but not that fat or in fact that tall 5ft 7".
should be there about 6pm.
Mines a carling sonicyouth,  :wink:


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 8, 2005, 13:48:28
I'll be wearing a STFC badge so you can all identify me.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: McLovin on Monday, August 8, 2005, 13:59:13
Has King said Nicolau was poor?  From the reports i read, he was assiting most of our goals...


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: spacey on Monday, August 8, 2005, 14:06:17
I'm not going to The Merlin anymore, Too many forumers giving me the fear :shock:


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Spud on Monday, August 8, 2005, 15:19:17
I wont be in the Merlin as id like to remain anonymous.... :advercool:


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 12:58:07
Well time to change my team after hearing of the injuries

Its

Evans

Collins O'Hanlon (will play i reckon) Ifil Smith

Shakes Pook Whalley (i think he will make it!) Caton

Cureton Thorpe

Subs Bulman Comyn-Platt Wells Nicolau Roberts

Id quite like to see Roberts play at some stage


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 13:03:02
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
I wont be in the Merlin as id like to remain anonymous.... :advercool:


I've been going to the Merlin before most games for two years, but I think I'm still anonymous.

Might say hello to SY this evening though.


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 13:10:45
Quote from: "janaage"
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
I wont be in the Merlin as id like to remain anonymous.... :advercool:


I've been going to the Merlin before most games for two years, but I think I'm still anonymous.

Might say hello to SY this evening though.


Dont do it Grey Squirrel. :?


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: walrus on Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 13:34:04
Junior (ex-Derby striker) signed for Watford, not Junior Lewis.

Who the hell is Collins?!

How bad were we on Saturday?  Sussex Red txt me saying we were playing well.

If you see a blonde-highlighted mulletted guy with an away "11 Cureton" shirt on come say hello!!


Title: Home v Oldham
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 13:44:10
Quote from: "Walrus"
Junior (ex-Derby striker) signed for Watford, not Junior Lewis.

Who the hell is Collins?!

How bad were we on Saturday?  Sussex Red txt me saying we were playing well.

If you see a blonde-highlighted mulletted guy with an away "11 Cureton" shirt on come say hello!!


Signed on loan from Sheff Wed, can play Centre back or Right back although according to quite a few on here he had an absolute stinker at Barnsley. :roll: