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Title: Brian McDermott
Post by: tans on Monday, March 11, 2013, 17:36:30
Sacked by Reading.

Shame..


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, March 11, 2013, 17:38:53
Sacked by Reading.

Shame..

Paolo...


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, March 11, 2013, 17:41:46
Was just thinking the same thing.....he'll no doubt be top of the betting lists anyway.



Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 11, 2013, 17:46:35
Depends on whether his dispute with us is finished and he is paid up or else it will be like the Adkins thing where he is technically on gardening leave until its all sorted.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: OrangeTransits on Monday, March 11, 2013, 17:53:52
Like a rat up a drainpipe !!!!


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 11, 2013, 17:58:05
I have a feeling they will approach Adkins for this and its a job that will interest him as well so they will rush up his compensation package.



Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: kerry red on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:08:00
Shame about McDermott - seemed a genuinely nice fella.

I honestly dont see Paolo as the sort to get a side out of trouble with players he has inherited. He'll need to get a job in the close season with time to bring in his so successful foreign signings!!


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: tans on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:09:15
Look who was at the reading game saturday


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Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: BruceChatwin on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:10:20
I can't see who'd find the job an attractive proposition.

Worst squad by miles in the premier league and a pretty much guaranteed relegation. The fact that their big January signing were players from Crawley and Sheff United, while their competitors QPR, who he still kept them above in the league, were spending £18 million on Christopher Samba and Loic Remy, on £100,000 a week wages, speaks volumes about the sort of level he's been working at.

Having been dissatisfied at various times with having the best squad in League 1, Di Canio would do his nut on a playing field weighted that unevenly against him.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:10:50
FFS, this makes me laugh - within a few minutes of McDermott being sacked Sky announce that Roberto Di Matteo and Nigel Adkins are the early favourites:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8557626/

While the Daily Mail go for, surprise surprise, Di Matteo and Paolo Di Canio:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2291675/Brian-McDermott-sacked-Reading.html

Do they just make it up on the spot or what?


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:12:25
FFS, this makes me laugh - within a few minutes of McDermott being sacked Sky announce that Roberto Di Matteo and Nigel Adkins are the early favourites:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8557626/

While the Daily Mail go for, surprise surprise, Di Matteo and Paolo Di Canio:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2291675/Brian-McDermott-sacked-Reading.html

Do they just make it up on the spot or what?
I'm sure that's exactly what they do.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: tans on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:13:07
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Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: kerry red on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:16:05
Is it Juan Sheet from the Plenty ad?

Got the feeling I should know that face, but just cant place him


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:18:18
I can see Piccaretta next to him, who paid for his ticket then as surely he can't afford it?


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:21:55
Di canio has gone from 10/1 to 4/6 in the last half hour on skybet.  Looking forward to him spunking the money ..


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:31:22
Looking forward to him spunking the money ..

Someone would have to tell him that he cannot sign any players until the summer.

And they better get some thick plexiglass in.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:34:03
Comment on the BBC site :

149.SuperRoyals
4 Minutes ago
Correct decision terrible timing.

Brian I thank you but you are not Prem standard.

We fluked promotion last year, money was available and he didn't strengthen accordingly. He plays long ball, his team selections have been shocking and he's played L,wood and McAnuff all season.

He will go down as a club legend.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T GIVE THAT NUT JOB DI CANIO THE JOB.



Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:35:29
I wonder if phil spencer will play such a big role in player recruitment there?  If so Nicky Hammonds days could be numbered.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: leefer on Monday, March 11, 2013, 18:36:16
Jason Roberts could be a good outside bet to take over.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, March 11, 2013, 19:55:51
As a short term (i.e. till the end of the season) appointment to try and avoid relegation PDC wouldn't be the worst option (obviously, as that's Paul Hart). He would give them a boost which might be enough to keep them up.

However, if they give him the job long term they are mad and it will end in disaster.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, March 11, 2013, 20:04:57
English football seems quite sane compared with some clubs on the continent.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8557643/Serie-A-Gian-Piero-Gasperini-leaves-Palermo-again


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, March 11, 2013, 20:05:06
It would be a shame if he went to a rival.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, March 11, 2013, 20:11:13
I can see Piccaretta next to him, who paid for his ticket then as surely he can't afford it?
I'm sure I read on here a while back that Paolo tried to sack Piccaretta in the Summer but had to keep him on because the deal for his preferred No. 2 fell through. Can I take it that, considering recent events - Piccaretta following Paolo's lead in resigning and now being seen with him at Reading, etc, etc, - the story was part of the advertised 80% bollocks?


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: SleafordRobin on Monday, March 11, 2013, 20:13:25
It would be interesting how we'd greet him next season when he returns  ;)


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Paolo69 on Monday, March 11, 2013, 21:00:45
It would be a shame if he went to a rival.

Damn right. Especially Reading, I have to live here.

He's got another new coat too I see.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: leefer on Monday, March 11, 2013, 21:06:06
Damn right. Especially Reading, I have to live here.

He's got another new coat too I see.

He buys what he wants.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Monday, March 11, 2013, 21:45:59
I'm already looking forward to a potential derby at Reading next season...if Di Canio went there, well.... :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 00:59:00
Ridiculous sacking. Considering the budget he had I don't think macdermott could have done any better. He had the dressing room with him and got all he could out of the team. They are going down regardless now.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 08:56:47
Hypothetical scenario:

Reading assign Di Canio as manager but he can't do enough and they are relegated. Swindon get promoted.

What sort of reaction do you think PDC would get coming back to Swindon from our fans?


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 08:59:14
Generally positive I would imagine/hope


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 09:02:39
Probably decent before/after the game but once the game started he would be fair game imo


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 09:08:12
Probably decent before/after the game but once the game started he would be fair game imo

This. Unless he sued us in which event he'd get massacred.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 09:13:15
Reading have a reputation of being incredibly sensible, even a bit conservative in the way they run their club. No debts, generally breaking even, healthy balance sheet, a succession of not very high profile (arguably slightly boring) experienced coaching professionals as managers.

Paola would be a fucking massive change of tack for them. I can't see it. Adkins would seem to be more their style.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 09:16:19
Reading have a reputation of being incredibly sensible, even a bit conservative in the way they run their club. No debts, generally breaking even, healthy balance sheet, a succession of not very high profile (arguably slightly boring) experienced coaching professionals as managers.

Paola would be a fucking massive change of tack for them. I can't see it. Adkins would seem to be more their style.

That was true while Madjeski was the major shareholder.  He no longer is.  New owner = new direction maybe?


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 09:27:01
That was true while Madjeski was the major shareholder.  He no longer is.  New owner = new direction maybe?

Madjeski is still there as chairman, and looks like he's pretty much there for life; he's friendly with the Russian family that bought the club out.

If the approach to this season in the Premiership is anything to go by, I can't see that there's been a huge change in the way the club are going about things.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 10:09:49
Reading have a reputation of being incredibly sensible, even a bit conservative in the way they run their club. No debts, generally breaking even, healthy balance sheet, a succession of not very high profile (arguably slightly boring) experienced coaching professionals as managers.

Paola would be a fucking massive change of tack for them. I can't see it. Adkins would seem to be more their style.

I think you've hit the nail on the head.  And more to the point, PDC is the wrong answer to Reading's problem.  If Reading were struggling because a talented set of players were failing to respond to the manager who had 'lost the dressing room', then a PDC-style appointment would make sense.  He would rejuvenate and tighten things up and, possibly, get them across the line.

But that isn't Reading's problem.  Reading's problem is that the playing squad is not good enough for the Premiership.  Zingarevich failed to invest to the extent that he needed to, and that was not Brian McDermott's fault.  They're screwed now, whoever takes over.  Which is good for us, I suppose.  Talk of expanding their stadium to 38,000 odd and trying to expand their catchment out our way is, yet again, on hold.  As it should be.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 10:23:33
Both seasons under PDC, and despite a full pre-season, we had a fairly slow start. Not exactly what you need when time is running out.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 10:33:46
I think you've hit the nail on the head.  And more to the point, PDC is the wrong answer to Reading's problem.  If Reading were struggling because a talented set of players were failing to respond to the manager who had 'lost the dressing room', then a PDC-style appointment would make sense.  He would rejuvenate and tighten things up and, possibly, get them across the line.

But that isn't Reading's problem.  Reading's problem is that the playing squad is not good enough for the Premiership.  Zingarevich failed to invest to the extent that he needed to, and that was not Brian McDermott's fault.  They're screwed now, whoever takes over.  Which is good for us, I suppose.  Talk of expanding their stadium to 38,000 odd and trying to expand their catchment out our way is, yet again, on hold.  As it should be.

As a longer term appointment, though, it makes more sense. He might not keep Reading up this season, but properly backed he will have them in the top half of the Premier League within three years either way.

And for Paolo, even if they go down he gets what he was promised when he signed on here - a Championship club with a new stadium and sustainable funding to push into the Premier League - without having to do the whole turning the entire culture of the club around, getting them promoted through two divisions and then waiting for the ground to be built bit (which he was doing remarkably well with nonetheless).


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 10:37:01
Good points.  Actually quite a good fit...just not right now.  He should bide his time.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 10:38:17
Diva di canio to a club with tight purse strings looks daft to me.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 11:40:50
But looking at it the otherway its a no brainer for PdC isn't it...

Keeps them up - he is the messiah, PdC kept them up single handed, they get relegated its not his fault, gets a premiership job on his CV etc - its the same scenario as when Shearer took over at Newcastle.

We shall see, always thought it would be interesting to see how he acted in a job with real pressure... Would be a risky appointment for Reading but it was the same here, depends how many risks the russian guy wants to take, they were suggesting Advocaat on the radio last night.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, March 14, 2013, 12:52:43
Apparently the Reading players have made it known they do not want Di Canio as their next manager, I expect they are scared having heard his reputation with his training sessions and fitness ideas.

For PDC to get another club they would need to be prepared to spend money, but I also could not see him managing a big club they way he spoke about players at his time here, imagine if he started calling someone like Terry, Rooney or Ferdinand a donkey and such like he would probably end up losing the dressing room as a lot of the premier players like to be pampered.

I could see him taking over a championship team and taking them to promotion that way


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, March 14, 2013, 12:55:54
Tough jobwinning over the players for whoever takes over considering how popular Mcdermott was. Can't see anyone getting more out of them.


Title: Re: Brian McDermott
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, March 14, 2013, 13:15:29
Tough jobwinning over the players for whoever takes over considering how popular Mcdermott was. Can't see anyone getting more out of them.

Totally agreed, they seem a commited bunch who seem to be playing for the team unlike some of the other teams down there.

Still not altogether clear exactly what our players actually thought of Paolo, his treatment of Caddis, McCormick and to a lesser degree Foderingham will have had some effect, I wonder how many who are now suggesting he was the messiah were saying that he had lost the dressing room after those events.