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Been watching videos on youtube and I found this. Some of our 'fans' are fucking disgrace. There is no excuse for racist chants even against the scum. I honestly hope someone gives these 'fans' a slap. Cunts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7a97qdSldo&feature=player_embedded

Name and shame. Only way in my opinion

To be honest, they are tough sat on the top deck behind glass!

Sound like extras from Green Street.

You get the same bunch of cunts at all clubs, we just seem to have more than the average.

I think that's just exposure to them. Every club has morons, and there are some ridiculously self righteous Oxford fans loving this.

That said, the bunch of them are cunts and should be run over by the bus.

I'm embarrassed we have fans with those views - but you can't be vicariously responsible for every idiot who happens to support the same club as you...any more than you should be embarrassed for racist idiots who were born on the same day of the week as you were.  And if there are any self-righteous Oxford fans out there, they should probably keep their indignation to themselves.  All clubs have a twat element.  Our fans (by which I mean the majority) are going to be every bit as appalled at this behaviour as theirs or anyone else's.  And anyone who tries to imply that this behaviour/language is in any way typical of our fans is so fucking stupid that they don't warrant listening to anyway.

Should be easy to identify, look for the scrape marks on their knuckles.

As an Indian town fan that is a really uncomfortable two and a half minutes viewing.  

It reminds me of one time coming back from an away game at QPR not so many years ago (I think it may have towards the end of the Andy King play off season) and similar songs were being sang at the tube station.  I remember standing in the tube station utterly embarrased with the odd person not singing and also embarassed just looking over as if to say sorry!

I didnt go to an away game for about 2 seasons after that.

Name and shame ..... Its the only way ...

To be honest i am seriously thinking of not sitting in the Town End any more.
I have heard racist chants this season....not a lot but enough to make me cringe,also the abuse aimed at Rooney last week was shocking and i came away from the game feeling rather pissed off(result aside)
It takes allsorts to make a crowd of course and all teams have them.
Me getting old perhaps but the Town End will be vacated i think by myself pretty soon after 36 odd years of watching footy from it.
I love the passion PDC displays and i reckon he could be a Swindon great in time........but i just wish that now and again the snarls and anger is replaced by a smile and laugh......it might...just might rub off on the fans who think that losing a home match(the first in a year or so)the right to fire off shite at a player making his first home appearance for us....as sub at that.

Why haven't the stewards kicked them out? Surely it's part of their job nipping racist abuse in the bud.

If you ever look at the chat room things that go alongside the dodgy streams of football you see that there are some thick football fans of every team.  Racist language is common along with religious hatred and hilarious banter about munich, hillsbourgh etc etc.

The anonymity provide by the internet or by being able to hide in a crowd makes people act like knuckle dragging idiots.

All the more reason for this lot, on camera, to be named and shamed.  Someone is going to recognise them.

I wonder if the video has been forwarded to the old bill?

Forward it to the club

Because it is a few doing it at times towards the back and out of sight,i repeat it is not a lot but i have heard it a few times......incredibly hard for a steward or policeman to remove a fan unless someone makes a complaint....even then i doubt it would ever happen as you cannot just kick fans out on the say so of other fans.
Unless fans are caught on camera shouting racist abuse they are here to stay i am afraid.

Seem like a lovely bunch

EDL  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzNfrvWHDTI

I bet there mum's are so very proud.

Pissed and coked up lads singing offensive songs shocker  :eek:
This is the norm just like thick cunts slating players,people commentating on games to their mates,smelly old cunts in the arkells etc,etc.

Yep.....some of us dont think it should be the norm arriba.

The year is 2012......i hated the racist chants and comments as a kid in the Town End and i detest it still.........the other shit i can put up with.

It isn't the norm though is it, just a minority (ironically). It's irrelevant what year it is, people are entitled to their own opinions / prejudices however offensive they maybe to others.

arriba said it was the norm.....not me ;)

It is very relevant what year it is.......years back it was accepted and indeed flourished so i would hope that every year it gets better is a good year....indeed making it a lot more relevant.

Sadly everyone is entitled to there opinions.......alas these days those opinions are out dated.........and against the law.

No. People aren't 'entitled' to their own opinions/prejudices if they are solely based on race or religion. Anyone who can hate a whole group of people based on the colour of their skin, or the belief system they follow, is a complete cunt. And I'm using cunt in the traditional abusive way, not the tef way.

Fair enough... :)


The law is not always right

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/Ex-soldier-faces-jail-handing-gun/story-12659234-detail/story.html

People are entitled to be a complete cunt where opinions are concerned.

And you believe all of this?

Voicing a racist opinion is not acceptable, therefore you are not entitled to hold it surely? I know there are still people with views that are bigoted and illogical, but fuck me, surely no one with half a brain and an ounce of commonsense would suggest they are entitled to that view?  E

Voicing a racist opinion; cunt. No argument.

As far as I know, there is no law about holding an opinion - racist or otherwise.

So - can I throw this one in the pot.

How come nobody is slating the very loud homophobic Town End chanting from the Brighton game?

We are condemning one ism but not another.

That chanting was hugely offensive as well.

Read my post you fucking idiot. Where have I said it is illegal to hold an opinion? Wanker.

However you said they aren't 'entitled' - why the fuck not? Everyone is entitled to an opinion (offensive or otherwise) - whether you, or anyone else agrees, with it or not.

If society deems certain views or opinions as unacceptable, should people be entitled to those views? We can't legislate against what people think, obviously, but we can when they voice their thoughts and that's what I was trying (obviously not very well) to get at.
Somethings you can't defend. Racism is one of them.

Lets be honest here then. Would you rather be Pakistani or an oxford fan

Fortunately that's not how it works. If anyone hears racist or homophobic abuse it should reported to a steward. If nothing happens, report it to the club afterwards. It's not up to you to think about what they may not have heard or seen, the fact is YOU did. We all know about http://www.kickitout.org/ (http://www.kickitout.org/) that is directed to us as fans as well as players (who recently haven't shown a great example, one might argue).

Do something about this video.........send a link of the clip here https://m.crimestoppers-uk.org/mobile/anonymous-form (https://m.crimestoppers-uk.org/mobile/anonymous-form) The more that do so, the more likely it will be followed up.

We ALL have a responsibility.

YOU read the cunting post again.

Sanctimonious jackass.

WTF?! :noway:

What a stupid question. Based on that, I'd rather be either of them than you.

"this video has been removed by the user"

awww, shucks

Haha  :D i was totally serious wasnt i. Some miserable cunts on here lately

I have done as you advised, this time sober and can see that you did not state I posted that having an opinion is illegal.
It doesn't change my view that you
are a wanker.

Call me old fashioned.....
But I really enjoyed the banter and excitement of being a teenager. Having a few drinks and revving up some locals especially from Poxford just added some spice to it.
The stereo type English male needing to be politically correct and everybody is equal is quite frankly a load of bollocks.  :)

   

Loving this thread.

 :popcorn:

The PC bit I'd agree with. Not sure what you mean by "everybody is equal is quite clearly bollocks " though.

NaZi Robin??!

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.  I'm not sure I believed all of the follow-up story either:

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/GUN-SOLDIER-WALKS-FREE-COURT/story-12664247-detail/story.html

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I did see on twitter the video was forwarded to the club. Guess thats irrelevent now.

I haven't noticed it at all in the Town End (near the back, seat 40 odd) but I'd have no hesitation shouting down anyone who started anything like that off. Every club has an element of ignorant chavs looking for and provoking trouble - that doesnt excuse it and the fact these fools have put it on youtube gives the club and/or the police the opportunity to make an example of them. I hate political correctness - but this isn't tongue in cheek or light hearted, the racism from these no hopers is nasty and aggressive and we shouldnt turn a blind eye to it.

Fuck me, guys. If the authorities aint interested in the Man U and Liverpool chants about the dead, they aint going to be interested in a few zit-covered adolescents spewing thoughtless grunts

I agree with you. I assume it is because racist comment is the PC hot potatoe.

"I'd rather be a cockroach than oxford"
and I hate cockroaches

Yeah but it's ok to be black, being gay is just plain wrong.

I'd rather be a fat old ugly bald ignorant cunt than be Scum - looks in mirror, check, check, check, check, check, check.

Was funny that.

Surely treating one ism differantly than another is blatent ismism and should be roundly condemned.

If I had been in the town end for 36 years, and only just heard such behavior, I would definately start condemning it now. Not because it's the fashion, but because it's just plain wrong

I'd like to see things from your point of view Herthab, but I can't seem to get my head that far up my arse.

I have seen the video and think it is disgraceful.

I do however find it ironic that the person who started the thread about this on the scum forum and bleating about it on twitter was quite happy to tweet vile shit like:

'Paolo di canio, he has no daddio, Paolo di canio, he has no mummio'

When PDC's parents passed away.

Ironic, considering the shite you usually spout. I'll try and cope with the fact you think I'm sanctimonious and have my head up my arse.
It'll be a struggle, but I think I'll cope.

.........said the bitter, miserable cunt with fuck-all original to say.

I'll leave the shite spouting for the moment as I'm off for a wank :nod:

Will you be thinking of Hertha when you have said wank?

We all do.

So much hostility on an internet forum. I'm virtually worried.

Glad I'm of some use.

Really, i would to hear your definition of funny? 4 fat retards in a car shouting? yep, really great comedy value there

I find it slightly amusing that the idiot who filmed it thought it worthy of putting on youtube.what a tool

Yep, and thats about as funny as it gets

Storm in a teacup....  The people involved are moronic, but it's an isolated few who've decided to use football as a front for the crap they spew.

That said, it's football.  Typically, a bastion of the working-class male and there will always be "banter", which I would extend to include the odd homophobic chant about Brighton.  How far do you go to avoid offence?  Is references to a team's geographical location also prejudiced and wrong?

You could always ban chanting, and make football more like the tennis?

And you class Homophobic chants as "Banter"?   

He has a point though Foggy.

'Society' reacts very differently when you call someone a queer than when you call someone a paki - it's still discriminatory abuse, so why is one deemed less offensive?

Pakistan

Ah nuts

Well looks like they shit it and took that video down so didn't get to see what it was all about but from reading all your comments sounds like it was some mindless cowards thinking they were big and clever being racist. I just hope my son doesn't have to be witness to stuff like this as he attends quite a few games with me. We do have some idiots associated with our club and its very embarrassing as they seem to think they are all out of football factory as witnessed the bell ends larging it up first hand in the pub doorway at Bradford on the last game of the season and they are just kids.

Not able to view the video but from the descriptions, I know the type.

I've shit harder shits than these types of tools, even after a heavy night on the beer and an extraordinarily iffy curry.

I assume Crispy finds that second video funny as he is the one filming it. Not cool Mr Crisp.

I hope none of those wankers are going tomorrow night.

And one other thing anyone who sings a song about Martin Aldridge are low life scum of the first order.