Thetownend.com

Hi folks,

Being deaf I dont hear the singing and general volume any more, and wonder
what you thought of OUR performance in that regard today ? [and compared to
the lot up the other end...]

Judging from where I was in 241, it didnt seem to be much of a singing block,
the level below definitely more active [maybe standing helps !]


Look forward to your thoughts !

Was a fair amount of singing going on down in the bottom tier where I was. Definitely think the standing helped!

Hard to compare with Chesterfield, as I wasn't sat amongst them. Needless to say, I'm sure our end would have been rocking if we'd won 2-0.

Well, my voice is fucked. Block 135 was fairly loud (although the goal took the wind out of it) but the sound doesn't carry too well, we couldn't really hear much that was going on in other blocks until the right side woke up and did the bouncing back and forth PDC's Red and White Armys.

Was in Block 238, it was a hundred times louder than last time at Wembley, and I thought it was pretty good considering the size of the stadium.

To be honest we had fuck all to sing about

Fans appalling again

block 131 and we gave it a lot..... couldnt understand why there were people in the singing section sitting down - bizarre

Fuck off. Me and my mates sang our hearts out. Not all fans.

Was in block 131 and the singing was only slightly better than last time and just didn't carry enough, perhaps thats just the way it is at Wembley. maybe it sounded louder to our fans sat along the sides ?

was disappointed we couldnt even manage a we're going up you're going down.

...or rather anything that wasnt Paolo Di Canio or We Are Paolos Red n White Army or that awful top of the league song.

Don't really see what the fuss is about. It was miles better than 2 years ago. I was in block 540 with the clouds and there was only one row behind me. But I could hear the chanting from below. Wembley's still magic, and I love it.

We are a collective and collectively we were shit.

I pretty much lost my voice at one point but i would guess only 20 people joined in tops.

Yes there was some appalling ones today, like the numerous fucking bell ends that think that having a go at people who chose to leave when the 2nd goal went in (some 20 seconds before the final whistle).

If by chance any of you pug faced jizz stains read this forum (and 99% on the contributors on here would not fall in to this bracket), if i want to go after 10 minutes, at half time or after 94 minutes of abject shit then that is my choice. One mongrel in his rock burned Kingswood shirt was shouting "stay and support your fucking team", i have supported my team at every game but 4 this season, home and away, so if i want to fuck off when the whistle blows, or any other time, i will do, cunts. I dont remember seeing his ugly face on a freezing cold day in Colchester, or an even bloody colder evening in Southend.

Maybe its just me but i am getting sick of a minority that think they are that bit more loyal than you, more passionate than you, and they think its ok for having a go at random strangers for daring to go when they want to go. Its not just 1 or 2, as i was leaving other people were getting the same. People may have there reasons for wanting to fuck off, mine were simple, we were 2-0 down in the 4th minute of 4 minutes injury time, i wanted a fag, my 6 year old, at his 4th ever match was gutted, and most of all i was fed up with idiots shouting at me that i aint a proper supporter. I am proud of our team and what is happening at STFC, we will have our day, sooner than later, fire drill or no fire drill.

Aside from that, great day out

Anyway, commence the abuse

No abuse from me.

The only thing which spoiled my day was the result. I expected worse from the daytrippers tbh

agreed.

We shot off as the second goal went in,

there was 20 seconds left, why the fuck would I want to stay and watch them celebrate?

Think we were pretty much the first ones back in the Green Man too..

You are getting pretty fucking shoddy starting matchday threads

Curse of being in Swindon I think.

Oh and a special mention to the two blokes sat in front of me.

First half between them got up twice each, I assume for a piss.

Went in for H/t at about 40mins, didn't reappear.

Came out on 80 mins, eighty!
Said they had bought pizza and were watching it on the telly inside!

Why the fuck would you spend £46 on a ticket to do that?!

The guy infront of me spent £46 to have a kip!! Unbelievable!

You could have been sat in the row behind us, guy we were with fell asleep during the first half!

He pays his money, it profits the club, he can do what he wants. Same at the guy who left early...

You weren't dressed as 'Super Canio' people were you?!

Nope, Maybe not..

I was in block 243. So there were at least TWO fans that slept through the first half! I didn't think it was that bad!!

I can understand everyone's frustration, as I've said in another post it just underlines our expectations for the club this season. Something we did not have last season, expectation, other than how many more the opposition would score!

I got pissed off before the game inside Wembley. I was in the concourse and stood to the side of the food concession next to entrance 126 having a cheeky pie & pint with my wife and son all decked out in our rep shirts. There was a group of people (could not see who they were, how many or ages etc) that came near by singing. This prick of a bloke looked at me and said "Here come the beer drinkers" in a derogatory tone. "Yeah, I'm also one of them mate, that's what being a season ticket holder and not a tourist does to you!" He realised he had chosen the wrong person to aim that twee comment at and sadly they are the wankers who who won't be at the Gas game on Saturday or any other game this side of a premier team in the cup or another Wembely appearance.

I thought the noise was a step up from Millwall but the Wembley acoustics are bloody awful and songs catch on tier by tier, block by block so they have to be repetitive and simple otherwise they die out before others can join in.

I was in block block 144 eating prawn sandwiches and giving radio interviews

But the padded seats were sooo comfortable :)

Have to say, with little ones in tow the front row of 243 were top seats. Nice to be able to use the club Wembley entrance too.

My thoughts too. Our block seemed to get through a song and then stop right when the next block started up.

I don't think it's because the fans were poor at all, it's just that the stadium isn't good for getting the whole crowd singing in unison.

The noise wasn't bad at times, but the limp performance on the pitch tended to feed up into the stands. I was in block 551 and there was singing up there from time to time. The worst bit of the day was being sat in front of a few middle age tools who decided to moan and swear throughout the game, one with such a squeaky voice it would crack glass. The munchkin size one then decided to tap the back of our row with his feet at half time. You were in row 26 if you're reading this - don't bother going again (any game).

You don't get the idea of all seater stadium then.

Should go in the trivial things that make you smile thread but :

Something that I loved about yesterday was the amount of town fans and where they came from.

I got off the train at Victoria (not the usual way into London for town fans), put on my red and white scarf and set off - only to be greeted by some merry town fans on the same train singing town songs.

My in-laws bumped in a fan at Fishbourne station, likewise on the train home to Portsmouth Harbour.

There's was a few on my train, they were already on it when I got on at B'mth

I got the train at 11:45 in Bicester and there was a couple of dozen Town fans on the platform. Nice to see in Oxfordshire :)

Can i just say that any fan who sat and took grief of other fans really didnt need to,the stewards were very good in the main and we moved seat three times for a better view,not saying you should have moved because you paid for your ticket but we sat at the top where there was thousands of empty seats....and no hassle from idiot fans or the such.

I was in 132 and the atmosphere was pretty good I thought and much much better than Millwall, only downside was there was the msot pessimistic twat I have ever seen at a football game in my row and called Matt Ritchie the worst player he has ever seen, get the feeling he hasnt seen us play too often

We need a simple song that everyone can sing but different.Hate to say it but something like the bounce around the ground song bristol city sing.

A bloke next to me labelled Ritchie a 'donkey' which drew an amusing reaction from those around him... sure, he was pretty poor yesterday, and didn't even capitalise when he found himself one on one with the fullback a fair few times, but a donkey he is not.

I thought we sounded great before the match and for the first few minutes but after that it seemed very quiet. Being a non-season ticket holder I was unable to get seats in the singing area but managed to get some in the next block (137), so I wasn't far from the singing area, but I was surrounded by daytrippers and people who were so pissed they couldn't stop laughing about the fact that they missed half the game through getting "lost" and calling the team useless tossers.
The people in front didn't move throughout the game and appeared to lose the use of their hands as they didn't clap once. I didn't go to the Milwall match as I was out of the country but I had hoped for better than that yesterday.

Having said that, the result didn't help but I didn't think the noise was that great before we conceded either.

And I DID stay and applaud my team at the end - I thought at least they deserved that.

I agree, something that we can ALL sing in unison, the singing yesterday was pretty good but totally dijointed with different sides singing different songs yet all areas were singing at the same time.

My take on things...well pretty much the same as most of the other posters really, I enjoyed the day out at Wembley (my first time at the new stadium) but did not enjoy the game or the result.

The sound compaired to 90 and 93 was really poor, but there were a lot of day trippers and give them their dues a lot of them sung, just not as a whole.

Chesterfield only sung when their goal went in and for about 5 mins second half later on in the game, their support was poor too but they HAD SOMETHING to sing about, whereas we didn't.

Lots of Town fans came up on my train from Zummerzet but it was more Chesterfield on the way home and what a bunch of ignorant fuckwits there were too, gloating wankers.

Nope,but he needs a good rest and if we win Saturday i can see him bein given one,a few matches off to re charge the batteries.

I still think Wembley is an amazing place to go with your club, still special. Thought we made quite a bit of noise, too, but the goal took the wind out of our sails.

Nothing more to be said really. Always going to be 'singers' scattered diluting the overall impact. Had we scored we would have made loads of noise, just as Chesterfield did. I thought their bouncy thing was pretty good, a reverse Poznan.

People can sing/leave do whatever they want, doesn't affect me. I'm a bit bored of people moaning about other fans. We're all different.

As has been said above, I think we were miles better atmosphere wise than against Millwall, but still felt extremely flat. Some of that down to Wembley acoustics, some just down to not enough people getting involved. Not sure there's an easy way round that if we ever go there again.

Maybe the team winning would do the trick ;)

A goal would help. When we went 1-0 down I was just thinking 'please let us celebrate a goal at wembley, that's all I want'.

My thoughts on the atmosphere fwiw....

 - Better than millwall, but still never really really got going...but, on neither occasion have we had much to sing about. If we had scored in the 80th minute, fook me there would have been some noise, make no mistake.

 - Although it will never happen in a million years, I would personally like to see a game like this at Villa park...people go on about the wembley experience and all that, and I supposes it is bit of a novelty walking up wembley way, and being able to say your team has played at wembley, but for me thats where the novelty of the wembley experience ends...Villa Park for example, would provide a much better FOOTBALL day out

 - On the acoustics, this is a funny one, once there are a load singing its loud as both chesterfield and millwall have shown. BUt for small groups, any songs starting often just get lost in the space if the surrounding poeple dont take them up immediately. There were a group of say 15 right at the back of block 135/136, who, fair play to them were trying to start songs all game...we wouild join in but it would just get lost. Too big a space. In the concourse (or the town end for that matter), half that number singiong would be enough to get songs going...

ho hum.

pretty much what I was trying to say in my first para

Yeah good point. 180 minutes of football at Wembley in the last couple of years and about 3 total shots on goal. A pity.

This - I was disgusted at the fire drill fans.

Yep me too, half the crowd had left even before the final whistle blew, pathetic.

I would have left, but the queue to get out meant I had to stay for the final whistle. It was like trying to get out the DRS.
I thought we were limp today, I didn't shout abuse at our team, I didn't boo. I joined in the singing (when it happened) and enjoyed my day - even though the game itself was uninspiring. Why is it pathetic to leave when you want to leave?

Waited to the final whistle but went immediately afterwards. To me staying and applauding may have been the right thing to do, but staying and seeing the Chesterfield celebrations would be like pouring salt on the wounds.

I make no apologies.

Me too Batch, when they were setting up the "trampoline" I was itching to get out.

It OK, if when we win the league I'll make up for it then!

No apologies needed - its just my view.

Fuck off cunt, I paid my money, turned up and supported the team.

If I want to nip out 2 mins early when the game was dead and buried, I fucking well will. They hardly deserved a standing ovation did they?

Knob.

Your view was spoilt by people standing up to leave?

This is totally how I felt - especially after the play off final game -  we had 2 friends with us that had never been to see Swindon or 2 Wembley I really wanted them to feel the joy of celebrating a goal so they would feel what it felt like to enjoy a match

How vast was the singing 'section'? Too big for the type of atmosphere we wanted really.

I stayed for a fews mins after the whistle and clapped the team. Don't blame people for leaving early though.

Blimey, people leave a football match before the final whistle - that's never happened before.

I find the whole "singing section" thing a bit strange. Perhaps we should have had a few "moaning sections" too.......the "annoying twat section" was sat behind me yesterday - so at least that was covered ;)

It's more annoying when the bloke in front of me at home games leaves when the board goes up, regardless of how close or exciting the game is... he isn't disabled or owt, and it doesn't exactly take an eternity to get out, but he insists on making the entire row get up to facilitate his pointless leaving. He's never seen the end of a game in the 4 years i've sat in that seat.

Those leaving early is fine by me, hardly comparable to Arsenal fans!

 ??? Wrong thread?

After reading this thread then I reckon next time we get to Wembley there should be a "fans who think they are better than other fans section" Except then no one would watch the football as they would be too bothered making sure everyone abides by their standards and ridiculing them if they dont.

Lets be honest, if we were on top on the pitch the place would have rocked off it. There were a fair few in the singing section that tried their best, just like there are in the Town End. I applaud their efforts. 

You can argue we should be more supportive in times of woe, but next time we are down in a match and being thwarted listen to the County Ground. Its the same thing, the atmosphere is muted.

Such is football.

That is an unusual one.

The earliest I have ever walked out of a game was the home match against Rovers a few seasons ago when they drubbed us - I made about 63 minutes. Sitting in the back row of the DRS was always a painful experience for me, the whole of the arkells, away end and town end could have left and I would be no more than 5 yards from my seat, stood still and waiting for people to move.  :suicide:

The accoustics at Wembley are shit - being only half full makes it worse.

If we end up there again, my hope would be that all the singers spread themselves out in a semi circle round the pitch, getting close to the back of the bottom tier where there is an overhanging roof to stop the noise disipating and get a bit of echo. If you could get that going in unison it would make it easier for evryone to join in with the same song at the same time.

I left when the second went in. Jumped straight on the train and was back in Swindon by 5.30.

Fuck standing around to applaud an abject performance like that.

Why? They have paid there money like anyone else. If they want to fuck off thats there choice. Like i said in a previous post, i have missed 4 games home and away this season, if i had enough i am going, despite some neanderthal telling me i am a disgrace and not a real supporter.

I started walking up the stairs as the second goal went in and i had no intentions of watching them fucking whippet breeders lifting the trophy that 99% of us thought was coming back along the M4.

Far too much navel-gazing in this thread.  We've been to Wembley twice now in less than two years.  On both occasions, we had 30,000+ fans there, many of whom weren't exactly regulars...just folk who wanted a nice day out supporting their home town club.  And nothing wrong with that.

But to expect that 30,000 to start rocking the place like it's Ibrox on Old Firm derby day, when on both days:

(a) the team didn't turn up; and
(b) the crowd didn't even get the opportunity to celebrate a goal

is a little naive.  If we had scored, the place would have gone mental.  But we didn't, so it didn't.

Anyway, plenty of singing round our way.  But, as others have said, it rarely spread more than a few blocks.  And it never will in a venue like Wembley without an instantly recognisable 'anthem' (for want of a better word) that is simple, that everyone knows and that everyone can belt out.  The closest we have, I guess, is 'Wise Men Say' - which works well sometimes whenn it isn't rushed.  Something like Hibs' 'Sunshine on Leith' is a million times better though.

This

A fella with a lazio scarf and a small megaphone was thrown out for bugger all. He was trying to get people singing and got treated badly imo.

The stadium is just to vast to get a real good atmosphere going.

He was on our train on the way up, playing Italian songs through the megaphone. Some old bint pointed out it was the quiet carriage and asked him to stop, needless to say he turned the volume up and carried on :).

I was in block 123 and when Chesterfield scored their second, one of the stewards cheered...cunt!

I was also in block 123. I must have missed that though!

I've been digusted at, I feel dirty now.

I left when the second went in and totally agree with Samdy BTW.

Yeah, and I came up from Angers in France with the wife and 3 kids. Fucking long drive back..........

I was shocked when he did it, the steward behind him kept tapping him as he was so engrossed in the game.
He reminded me of Peter Kay when he did that episode when he is a steward at Manchester Arena

i was in block 131 and myself and the rest of our bunch sang our little hearts out yesterday! i though the atmospherew was better but as people have said, the sound quickly seemed to disappear and it was difficult to hear what the other fans across were singing, my voice is in absolute tatters today and my throat is killing from all the singing. got to be honest though, im not quite sure what came over me but when the game finished i stayed to applaud the biys and actually shed a tear.  :-[ i think i was just so gutted. still, life goes on :beers:

Perhaps he was a Chesterfield fan who was too cheap to buy a ticket? Mind you, he could have sat in the top tier at their end - loads of room :)

Thought it started off well......  I tryed a bit of singing myself ( soapy tit wank ) but due to drinking cider in the sun I had one hell of a headache and I was fecking freezing in my Wembley T shirt, as soon as they scored I turned into Victor Meldrew. Really dissapointed, I think we all imagined a different day. But I stayed and clapped when they got their medals too. You win some you lose some. Walking down Wembley way in the middle of a sea of red singing was amazing.

So you don't want to show your appreciation to the fact that the team has done really well all season, got us to Wembley, given us a chance to have a great day out, which, ok was spoilt by the result as they didn't cut it on the day.

I did - but I also had to sign for the bar bill so had a reason to hang about  ;D

I saw loads on the train into Victoria as well, was bit of a surprise.

The problem when you have such a large crowd is that the groups that were singing were really spread out, so everyone was singing different songs and we couldn't really get the whole end singing the same song.

Must admit I was taken aback and shocked after the play off final in 2010 there was a lot of fans on here claiming no fucker was singing and our fans were useless.

I think after the return yesterday with the "singing section" we can sum it up that the acoustics in wembley are not great.
But here's the main reason and it has already been mentioned.
In the years I've been....


In 1990 we took the lead
In 1993 we went 3-0 up
In 2010 we went a goal down

Makes a huge difference to the 90 minutes of football and when it all comes down to it, the team have to give you something to shout about.

We move on and look forward to us outsinging Rovers on sat when we stick 4 past them

we sounded quite loud from where I was sat. Top tier to the left of the goal, Pretty much heard (and joined in) singing all game bar a 10 minute spell 2nd half

I've been to about 30 games this season already and if I want to leave early I'll leave early.

I stayed till the end.

Im cool

I left the moment the second goal went in too. The players should be applauding us for turning up in numbers (again) but I was too pissed off to hang around.

They were very comfortable, wish i'd been jumping out of my seat a bit more though! I would definitely go Club Wembley again  :)

I left as soon as the second went in. Poor performance so didnt see the need to clap the lads at the end!

Sometimes they need to know that we are not happy, I dont like booing, so vast amounts of empty seats shows that IMO

I also left after the second goal. Couldnt bare to watch the opposition celebrate after beating us at Wembley again.

Don't see the issue myself. Was deep into injury time so fair enough if people wanted to leave

I left when the second went in. Came back out the quickly applaud the players then left again.

Less so to do with our players and more so to do with the fact I didnt want to watch Chesterfield celebrate.

I was in a row of lads who spent the majority of the game elsewhere. Watching for 5 minutes, leaving for 10 minutes and then coming back (repeat until FT).

That didn't bother me. What did slighlty irk me was the horrific lack of knowledge provided by whoever was sat behind. By all means, come and support Town, enjoy your day but do not try and convince us that "Steven Ferry is shit, send him back to Rangers or whoever Di Canio got him from".

Oh and that comment was in reference to Lee Holmes' struggle to beat his man.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Surely not!? How anybody could be that stupid is beyond me... If you dont know anything dont say anything, that's simple enough right?

I don't agree.  There was plenty of singing throughout the match, bar a spell during the 2nd half.

I find it funny that some people think that our support was poor compared to Chesterfield.
Bar the goals I have to say I only heard them a couple of times at all.

The other half was sat around near the halfway line and basically said the same thing.
We made more noise, more often than they did.

You werent in block 130 about half way up were you?

Yup, heard them do one "stand up..." and both goals but nothing else.

I was in the bar finishing off my beer when we went 1-0 down.  I didn't even hear their cheer.  I had to look at the TV to find out they did score.

The players did applaud the fans at the final whistle. We watched our lot go up the steps then left before Chesterfield got to lift the trophy. There were still plenty of our fans inside but most seemed to do the same as us. Just hope we don't get dragged back down into the playoffs as our last two visits haven't been the happiest.

I was in block 143, next to the Club Wembley section. I heard some noise- more than our last visit, but it wasn't good.

I've said it before and I'll say it again- this 'New' Wembley is a souless place and I hate it. Too sterile, no acoustics and more importantly, no history.

The acoustic argument is bollocks.The Liverpool v Cardif game being the most recent example

The accoustics there were designed to be excellent, its just that we didn't exploit it fully, we could have raised the roof if we all sung the same song in unison.