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Title: West Ham
Post by: Victor Mildew on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:16:45
according to a mate of mine who was at the West Ham game last night,West Ham fans were chanting We want Di Canio at the end of the game! Now i dont know about anybody else on here but lately the first result i look for after our games are West Hams hoping they have won,Allardyce doesn't seem to popular there either.Thoughts and abuse please


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:19:15
Yep.  I was listening to all that on the box thinking shit ....

I am pretty sure they will go up though even if it is via the play offs!


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:19:21
If it happens, it happens. No point getting worried about it.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:22:10
Been watching them myself.

I'm holding onto the thought the West Ham board would consider PDC not to have been tested sufficiently yet.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:23:14
Far too early in PDC's career to be managing a club of that size.  I would be very surprised if West Ham considered him at this point.  Besides which, he's on a learning curve with us.  League 1 next season ratchets things up nicely for him in terms of the experience he will gain.  I'm as confident as I can be that he will be leading us out again next season.  Beyond that, harder to tell.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: jimmy_onions on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:24:07
Been watching them myself.

I'm holding onto the thought the West Ham board would consider PDC not to have been tested sufficiently yet.

I tend to agree with this...also, PDC is an intelligent man, he will know that if he moves up a level too early, and it goes tits up, it will damge his reputaton hugely...


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:24:41
Plenty of other managers that could get the job. McCarthy and Bruce to name a few


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:28:49
True there are other managers who could get the job.

However the West Ham board would come under massive pressure if they failed to go up and a good way to ease that would be to give the fans what they want.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:29:16
their support is generally moronic & they think they are a bigger club than they really are


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: DRS on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:30:27
If i was PDC i would question if i would want to manage a team where the fans sing for another man when they are 3rd in the league with a game in hand are unbeaten in the last 7 games


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:31:22
If i was PDC i would question if i would want to manage a team where the fans sing for another man when they are 3rd in the league with a game in hand are unbeaten in the last 7 games

this


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:31:51
I tend to agree with this...also, PDC is an intelligent man, he will know that if he moves up a level too early, and it goes tits up, it will damge his reputaton hugely...
Sounds very much like Di Matteos management career path.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:35:04
Sounds very much like Di Matteos management career path.

Would this be the Di Matteo who is currently manager of Chelsea?


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:35:47
If i was PDC i would question if i would want to manage a team where the fans sing for another man when they are 3rd in the league with a game in hand are unbeaten in the last 7 games

According to several fans on the Hammers forums they hate the bloke with a passion and quotes like....

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he is great at not losing -but clueless at winning


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:36:33
Would this be the Di Matteo who is currently manager of Chelsea?
Yes by default. He won't be manager there next season I would bet on that.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:38:22
PDC obviously loves West Ham, but would he get as much backing as he has here from the board?

I can't think of any manger that I have known get so much freedom to bring in players and cast off the dead wood! Especially in their first ever season!

Plus, if he did go to WH and bombed it could possibly lose him some of his legend status, would he want to take the risk?



Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: steveg on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:39:13
Call me daft but I have an inkling that Di Canio is here for the long haul?! He as much said so last night. We might have something special here so lets all embrace it. The only things not in place is the Ground and of course a few more bums on seats Lets face the potential is there? As for West Ham would he not like to have warm memories of the time he had there? He is not assured of roses arond the doorway is he?! He already has cult status here and that legend status is just around the corner?  Just my personal thoughts!


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:42:01
They don't want Big Sam because they don't like his style of football.  They would rather be playing decent football with a mid-table team.

It's always been of a bit bizarre attitude at "The Acadamy"


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:43:44
The thing with Allardyce is that if West Ham do go up this season, then you can more or less put money on them struggling early doors in the Premiership and Allardyce getting the boot.

I can't see Sullivan & Gold taking a risk on someone who only has League Two experience of managing to his name.

They can sing Di Canio's name all they want, they'd probably turn on him if they didn't win their first 3 games 7-0.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:43:47
You've just made a very obvious (but very good) point about the ground redevelopment.  Because we're so late in getting our ground redeveloped - clubs started doing this in a big way around 20 years ago and have been doing so ever since to the extent that a lot of lower league clubs are now playing in new stadia - we still have the 'boost' that can arise from this to come.  If we get our redevelopment right (and the signs are good, particularly in relation to location), it could transform our prospects...just as building the Madejski did for Reading.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:48:01
I went to a West Ham game this season as a bloke I work with is a Hammer. It was possibly the worst display of Football that I've ever seen! (and I've seen some dross down the years of my time supporting Swindon). Allardyce's tactics were pretty much, get the ball, and hoof it up to Carlton Cole.

I spent the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half, down on the concourse necking as much beer as possible to get me through the rest of the game.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:54:31
 Already calling for Di canio says it all.
I'm sure he'd be offered the job if big sam went. Whether he'd take it is another thing. Don't buy into the arguement that he hasn't the experience etc. He has massive self belief. Chuck in a league win-wembley cup final and numerous scalps during his first season as a boss. If it aint West Ham it will be another club chasing him


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: swindont on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:57:33
Anybody read this? http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137927&start=180

seems as if not all West Ham fans are convinced, but to say the least i am worried.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 13:59:53
You only have to look at Lambert and Brendan Rogers to see how young, fairly inexperienced managers have managed to cut the mustard in the PL - and I would certainly put PdC in that bracket.

Never understood why PL Chairmen still employ the likes of McCarthy, Bruce et al when they have proved they can't do the job - how many jobs did Bryan Robson get before he got sussed?

It wont be a matter of West Ham not being willing to take a chance with PdC, it will be PdC's word that he will get the job done at Swindon before he ponders he next move


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 14:11:22
For the record I don't think West Hams board would have the guts to approach him at such a point in his management career.

I had a little read about him on the kneesupmotherbrown forum and found this nice little quote from a West Ham fan....

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I went to the Oxford game too, Wow, ended up being 2-0 to Oxford but Swindon played some of the best football in the whole football league. What a Character Di Canio was! Always has been and all ways will be a guy with his heart on his sleeve. Defo the most charasmatic manager i have seen.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 14:20:20
Whatever happens PDC or not, this club has put in place the foundations of success for the future.
Lets not start to worry too much just yet


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: corner on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 15:51:27
But would he want to go? NO, would he have the same backing at west ham as our board has given him? NO.
He will stay and get us into the chamionship.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: MarkyTee on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 16:03:32
I think weve got PDC for another season at least


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 16:22:09
Only PDC can predict what he'll do next.  In fact Im not sure he can predict it himself.  Just enjoy the ride.  It will be over one day, but even if its only one season we may well have a double to look back on. 

There's always Paul Hart for an emergency.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Langers on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 16:25:25
I think West Ham will still go up, in which case I can't see them getting rid of Allardyce.

I also think Paolo is quite loyal and would like to reward the trust we have put in him by staying for at least next season.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: walcot red on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 16:34:16
west ham will be fucked if they don't up this season aren't in like £80 mill in debt i think i read that on there forum

mushy wrote:
Difference being of course is that Swindon are not £80 million in debt and in vital need of the cash from prem football.
The message from the West Ham board is promotion at all costs, forget the style.

i think if PDC turned down the chance of playing for manure as a player he may turn down west ham. as has been said before he may go so enjoy the ride.

maybe he's also seen whats happend to other managers who've left clubs in league 2 (paul ince for example) for prem clubs and decide to go when he's learnt a bit more.

as for the thought of paul hart i'd rather wear a dress made out of meat and jump into a shark enclosure.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: DRS on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 17:13:43
2 Things.If West Ham are fucked financially then sacking Allardyce wouldn't be cheap.Secondly and probably more importantly West Hams board are known for sticking with managers no matter how much pressure from the fans


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: REDBUCK on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 18:18:33
Not sure that's still true under the new ownership


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: DRS on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 18:26:52
It's the new ownership i am on about.Look at the managers at Birmingham they hardly sacked anyone.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 18:33:38
Big Sam will get at the very least until the end of the season. To be fair I think they will go up. I can't see Reading keeping their form up until the end of the season.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: skin_im_buzzer on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 18:52:18
Am worried.

Paolo is a man ruled by his emotions. It makes him a great motivator, but can also lead to spur of the moment actions (celebrations, getting sent to the stands, etc).

I do not believe that he would ignore the lure of West Ham for a second. His heart would be telling him to go - and he's a man that acts upon his heart not his head.



Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 19:14:11
Am worried.

Paolo is a man ruled by his emotions. It makes him a great motivator, but can also lead to spur of the moment actions (celebrations, getting sent to the stands, etc).

I do not believe that he would ignore the lure of West Ham for a second. His heart would be telling him to go - and he's a man that acts upon his heart not his head.



Yet his heart could also tell him to stay here. Spur of the moment and all that, after winning a double............


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 19:26:14
No one can possibly second guess what Paolo might do if West Ham come calling or any other situation for that matter. Yes of course it would be massively tempting for him to go but I wouldn't take it for granted that he would automatically go. I would certainly be a lot happier if West Ham would start winning 5-0 every week though.

Sadly, such is the lot of the lower league fan. You start doing well and every bastard wants your players and your manager. The important thing is how the club deals with it. I think we're far better set up in that respect than we ever have been before.


Title: Re: Re: West Ham
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 20:54:02
Rather than worry about the day Paolo is gone, lets enjoy the ride. The board and the aggressive investment we are seeing give me confidence that we will continue to recruit high calibre managers, coaches and players.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: steveg on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 21:36:55
Like a lot of people have said "lets enjoy the moment"

You never know whats around the corner?

ps  heard a rumour that PdC is in Barcelona tonight??? 


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: slinky on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 22:32:19
West Ham fans were on Talksport earlier and were all up for getting rid of Allardyce immediately and giving Di Canio a chance before the end of the season.

The day will come when he moves on for sure, but hopefully this won't be until he has finished what he has started here.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 22:47:41
Too risky for WHU before the seasons end. They may still go up. Bring in PDC and he will go through the same process as here trying to work out who is up for it. Too much disruption = no chance of promotion.

If they came in over the summer them I guess he'd be off (personal opinion). But surely they'd look for more experience?


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: pericarp on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 15:40:43
I think PdC has much affection for our club. We gave him the opportunity in management and he is really truly grateful.
Swindon is high on his list of liked clubs, Lazio and West Ham. I think it would be very strange for him to move to West Ham, after only a year in management. The move would undermine his loyalty and passion, which is what has made him so successful for him as manager.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Abrahammer on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 15:43:01
Won't be long until we find out at this rate.

2 down already today 


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 15:48:09
Unfortunately (for West Ham) they will be royally screwed financially if they fail to get promoted this year so would hardly be that attractive to PdC as he does seem to like a bit of wonga to throw around.

I'll still stand by what I have always thought about PdC - he is an honourable man and will see us in the Championship before he has any thoughts of leaving - if then


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: pericarp on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 15:52:02
He's already mentioned twice that in 10 years time he'll win the Champions League with us.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: nochee on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 15:58:04
He's already mentioned twice that in 10 years time he'll win the Champions League with us.
Bless you


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Phil_S on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 16:00:03
He's already mentioned twice that in 10 years time he'll win the Champions League with us.
And that's key I think.... As long as he has the backing of the board & fans I think it would take a hell of a lot to prize him away. And there could only be a few clubs to boot. He's still young for a manager, & will no doubt prefer to take us up through the leagues to a lot of other alternatives
I guess we'll hjave an indication of this when & if he signs an extended contract o


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 16:02:07
Bless you
:D


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 16:08:41
"Big Sams' boring football"


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: pericarp on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 16:18:55
Bless you

 :(


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 16:33:04
2 goals in 2 minutes for the hammers


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: pericarp on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 16:35:13
2 goals in 2 minutes for the hammers

We like that  :nod:


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Don Rogers moustache on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 19:07:31
Going to bookies in the Morning,I will tell you the odds for West Ham not to get promotion and PDC to be there in the summer that will be one bet.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: herthab on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 19:20:50
Fucking ridiculous.

We're having one of the best periods in our recent history (Probable Champions, possible cup winners, not to mention the whole buzz around the club) yet some people would rather spend time worrying about whether our manager will be here next season.

Nothing in football is for ever, particularly for a club of our size and stature. When PDC goes(Which at some point he definitely will) it will hopefully be because of the success he's achieved with us. Which means we benefit.

Until then enjoy the ride.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 19:40:25
Everyone is enjoying the ride.
When another club is chanting for your manager it is going to come up on the clubs main forum aint it?


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: blinkpip on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 19:44:34
It's not just Di Canio that made our team a success this season, our couple of agents that scouted most of our signings deserve credit too.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: herthab on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 19:45:17
Everyone is enjoying the ride.
When another club is chanting for your manager it is going to come up on the clubs main forum aint it?
Fuck the wet spammers, he's our manager until he isn't. Until then other clubs fans chanting his name isn't going to bother me.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Don Rogers moustache on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 19:57:21
Glenn Hoddle?????????


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: stfcinbmth on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 20:02:27
Fuck the wet spammers, he's our manager until he isn't. Until then other clubs fans chanting his name isn't going to bother me.

Hope he stays till the end of the season


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Saturday, March 24, 2012, 20:05:22
As far as I'm aware, West Ham currently have a manager?
Untill they don't, I won't be worried.
Allardyce will get them up, and once they are up, I don't think they could have a better man in place to keep them their.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, April 2, 2012, 20:37:17
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7647039/Brady-Big-Sam-will-stay



Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, April 2, 2012, 20:44:06
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7647039/Brady-Big-Sam-will-stay


Is that a 'vote of confidence' ?  If so, I think we all know what that means.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: janaage on Monday, April 2, 2012, 20:48:58
West Ham would be mad to go for Di Canio at the moment, and Paolo would be crazy to go there too. He's currently learning the ropes in management and he can get away with things with us that he wouldn't at a higher level.

I'd be truly amazed if PDC left us for them before the end of next season.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 2, 2012, 20:50:59
I don't think we have to worry about WHU stealing PDC...yet. I think they'll see hasn't achieved anything yet and is a bit volatile.

Don't get me wrong, I think PDC will be great for this club and will be very successful. It just a bit early in his career to take someone of WHU's size. Lets hope a smaller Championship team don't come in for him..

edit: or alternatively, what Jan said ^^^^


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 2, 2012, 22:09:45
But a smaller Championship club would not interest PdC - he believes he can achieve that at Swindon.

If/when he goes it will have to be to a club that is willing to indulge him as we have done - and there aint too many of them!


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 07:53:18
It was interesting to hear the WHU fans moaning on 606 the other night and their major gripe was that with Allardyce there was no Plan B if things are not working.

I thought that was a little ironic as the one minor gripe that I with PdC is that if we cannot break teams down we also seem to lack an alternative approach - sure it will come with experience.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: tans on Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 08:00:21
What Jan said.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 12:47:36
What tans said


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 20:33:36
Safe to say, I think, that Reading's win at Brighton this evening all but confirms their automatic promotion back to the Prem, along with Southampton.  (I know Reading and Southampton still have to play each other...just can't see either slipping up now.)  So it's West Ham for the play offs.

None of which will, of course, have any bearing on PDC's plans for next season.  He's ours, for now.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: The Frog on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 20:37:15
i think we should try and sign god up pretty sharpish and show the bigger teams our intent on keeping him, like poyet with brighton etc


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 20:39:03
i think we should try and sign god up pretty sharpish and show the bigger teams our intent on keeping him, like poyet with brighton etc
Think we recently tried


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 20:45:45
We still are trying. He won't sign a new deal until the title or promotion has been wrapped up which is fair enough.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 20:48:03
Safe to say, I think, that Reading's win at Brighton this evening all but confirms their automatic promotion back to the Prem,

Probably. Friday is Southampton v Reading, I wouldn't count West Ham totally out of it yet. Though they have Brighton themselves.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 20:51:09
They won't sack him.Said it a few times but history suprisingly shows gold and brady are not trigger happy when it comes to managers


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 21:50:41
Probably. Friday is Southampton v Reading, I wouldn't count West Ham totally out of it yet. Though they have Brighton themselves.
Reading still have to go to Birmingham and Southampton have Middlesborough away to play.
I can still see West Ham getting in to the top 2.


Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: pericarp on Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 21:52:42
Reading still have to go to Birmingham and Southampton have Middlesborough away to play.
I can still see West Ham getting in to the top 2.

I can't