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Title: Knackered
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:31:02
Anyone else feel knackered all the time? I don't know if it's a seasonal thing.  :badmood:


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:35:18
Maybe you have ME, or AIDS?


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:37:17
GRID


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:37:35
...or children?


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Bosey on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:41:31
Go into Holland and Barrett, get some Vitamin D and some 5-HTP

Will help you through the shit dark season! I recommend EVERYONE takes supplements during winter.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:44:46
The old 'knackered' Aids.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:48:19
I don't get the recommended 8 hours Kip each night, I will wake up early and stay awake. I thought you need less sleep as you get older? I could easily Kip for 10 to 12 hours when I was younger, especially after a night out.  :pint:


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Bosey on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 08:50:28
I don't get the recommended 8 hours Kip each night, I will wake up early and stay awake. I thought you need less sleep as you get older? I could easily Kip for 10 to 12 hours when I was younger, especially after a night out.  :pint:

The Military are pretty sure 4 is enough, anything less builds up what the call "Sleep Debt"



Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 09:12:45
Isn't there some theory that your sleep is a wave pattern which fluctuates between deep and light sleep? Depending on which part your in when your alarm goes off dictates whether you wake up feeling refreshed or knackered.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 09:39:41
I only need about 4 hours sleep a day, and about 12 at night, and i'm fresh as a daisy.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 10:17:57
An advert for mattresses at the bottom of the page.  ;D


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Bosey on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 10:48:37
Isn't there some theory that your sleep is a wave pattern which fluctuates between deep and light sleep? Depending on which part your in when your alarm goes off dictates whether you wake up feeling refreshed or knackered.

Yes, they are called "Sleep Cycles"

http://www.mind-expanding-techniques.com/sleep-cycles.html

Some useful info on waking up refreshed:

- Sleep with a window open (On cold nights counterbalance this with central heating as temp is important)
- Wear Ear plugs (noise during sleep is damaging to your heart)
- Keep the curtains open. Natural light is best, especially when waking up.
- Don't snooze, get straight out of bed.
- Drink water before you go to bed and when you wake up.
- Try to go to sleep and wake up at similar times each night and morning.



Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: TheSwineDon on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 11:39:23
Yes, they are called "Sleep Cycles"

http://www.mind-expanding-techniques.com/sleep-cycles.html

Some useful info on waking up refreshed:

- Sleep with a window open (On cold nights counterbalance this with central heating as temp is important)
- Wear Ear plugs (noise during sleep is damaging to your heart)
- Keep the curtains open. Natural light is best, especially when waking up.
- Don't snooze, get straight out of bed.
- Drink water before you go to bed and when you wake up.
- Try to go to sleep and wake up at similar times each night and morning.




I'm fucked then..


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 11:53:18
Zinc is a pretty good supplement for tiredness


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 12:13:25
Years of night shifts started doing this to me. Tired as fook but still not getting a decent amount of kip was a cycle i couldn't break.
Quit nights and eventually it got better for me. Get about 7 hours a night and that does me fine.
A regular sleep pattern seems to be one answer.Well mine anyway


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 12:13:33
Coffee is a pretty good substitute for zinc.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 12:29:53
I went through a spell of being really tired all the time. Never had any trouble sleeping and was getting a regular 6 to 8 hours a night but found myself feeling constantly tired. Do you know what cured mine? A new job.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: walrus on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 12:39:36
What Samdy said...  I used to get up at 6.15am and felt shagged all the time.  Switched jobs, get up at 7.15am now and rarely feel tired.  Even at weekends I don't tend to get a lie in, unless I have a hangover, in which case I don't think you get the benefit.  That extra hour makes a world of difference.

No matter where I've worked, how early the start (was once 3am), I've never managed to put myself to bed before 11pm.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: TheSwineDon on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 12:50:37
The more I do during the day, the better I sleep.. If I have a day off and do nothing with it I can't sleep at night.  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 13:03:36
I get up for work at 4:15 am every day and my body has adjusted to this over the years.

The upshot is, by 6pm i'm knackered and ready for bed.

I find i'm fine until I sit down and rest. Thats when I realise i'm tired and want to sleep.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 15:21:23
I woke up an hour ago. Although in fairness I didn't get to sleep until 4am so it is kinda justified.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 17:00:32
I don't get the recommended 8 hours Kip each night, I will wake up early and stay awake. I thought you need less sleep as you get older? I could easily Kip for 10 to 12 hours when I was younger, especially after a night out.  :pint:

Nah that's bollox...up til the age of about 30, I could happily go out every night of the week, ok earlier closing of pubs, but could easily function and keep a job....from about 30 with the onset of kids, it had to be reduced to mostly 4 nights a week, preferably with some sort of siesta involved. Post 50, I had to trim down to 3 nights a week apart from holidays, and post 55, weekends and holidays only with kipping time being a good hour, hour and a half earlier, in order to function at work :(


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: oxford_fan on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 20:48:03
I recommend EVERYONE takes supplements during winter.

I would recommend taking none of that supplement shit. Instead concentrate on eating a bit of fruit and veg which contains natural versions of the chemically synthesised vitamins and minerals. I'm highly dubious as to the effectiveness of taking pills to replace what you're not eating.

There's a sleep cycle app for the iPhone, I used it a handful of times before stopping. It was interesting to see the graphs which show how deep you sleep. But I'm so competitive that I found myself going to bed with my mind occupied by the thought of beating my deepness of sleep from the nights before, resulting in worse sleep.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 20:52:32
Lettuce helps you sleep apparently.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 21:00:31
The more light there is the less sleep i need.

I get up early on a regular basis,in the spring and summer months i feel a lot less tired than the dark months of winter.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 21:03:53
Yes, they are called "Sleep Cycles"

http://www.mind-expanding-techniques.com/sleep-cycles.html

Some useful info on waking up refreshed:

- Sleep with a window open (On cold nights counterbalance this with central heating as temp is important)
- Wear Ear plugs (noise during sleep is damaging to your heart)
- Keep the curtains open. Natural light is best, especially when waking up.
- Don't snooze, get straight out of bed.
- Drink water before you go to bed and when you wake up.
- Try to go to sleep and wake up at similar times each night and morning.



I'm fucked then thanks to my shift pattern. I say pattern, it doesn't actually follow anything that remotely resembles a pattern.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 21:07:51
When I used to work nights we had to buy extra thick curtains so i could get some sleep in the mornings. I find it really difficult    Getting to sleep unless it's really dark, don't even have one of those digital clocks because of the glow they give off. Really envy people who can sleep anytime any place.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: wiggy on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 21:10:17
Getting to sleep is simple - just make some recordings of Match of the Day and put them on when you need to sleep. You will be snoring on the sofa in no time.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Notts red on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 21:13:47
Getting to sleep is simple - just make some recordings of Match of the Day and put them on when you need to sleep. You will be snoring on the sofa in no time.
actually did that Saturday night Wiggy, thought I would be able to sit through MOTD and then watch our 10 seconds worth. No chance, woke up around 1.30am. I blamed it on the hip flask !


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 21:36:16
Go to bed, even if its just a few hours think that you're about to have the best nights sleep in the world and wake up with a smile on your face.  Works like a dream.

Bit of fresh air also makes a big difference.  This time of year most of trudge between house, car, office, car, brothel and home again without getting a bit of air. 

   



Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Ironside on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 22:06:15
To stay up, snort coke.
To go to sleep, drink beer.
Works for me.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 22:07:47
To stay up, snort coke.

I find drinking it from a glass works just as well.  Guffaw.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 22:58:29
To stay up, snort coke.
To go to sleep, drink beer.
Works for me.
to seriously shorten your lifespan, be Ironside :)


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Ironside on Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 23:37:44
to seriously shorten your lifespan, be Ironside :)

:-)

gave it all up when I hit 35 next month probably.


...I know....


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 00:04:25
I'm fucked then thanks to my shift pattern. I say pattern, it doesn't actually follow anything that remotely resembles a pattern.

Likewise. Since Friday I've finished at 1:30 a.m, had Saturday off, finished at 5pm sunday, half 12 last night, half 12 tonight, off tomorrow and finish at 5pm on Thursday.

It's similar to that most weeks - that's as close to a shift pattern as I get really.


Title: Re: Knackered
Post by: 4D on Thursday, March 29, 2012, 14:54:25
This heatmildwave is making me feel tired - it's only about 18c outside but feels about 28c in my office  :o