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Title: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: News Monkey on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 15:00:06
Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
           


  PAOLO Di Canio’s appointment as Swindon Town manager has heralded an increase in new season ticket holders for the coming season, and chief executive Nick Watkins is delighted with the response
  from the fans.

           

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9072571.Di_Canio_receiving_positive_response_from_fans__says_Watkins/?ref=rss
           


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:20:58
swindontommy disagrees.

http://swindontommy.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:28:48
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What Watkins is really saying here, is that good fascists make good football managers.

Quite right that.

No hyperbole at all.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:30:54
Ha

Swindontommy wrote one article on that blog titled "Kick hypocrisy out of football".

Yeah, innit Tommy, you fucking tool!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:31:30
swindontommy disagrees.

http://swindontommy.wordpress.com/

swindontommy is the ultimate of keyboard warrior pretentiousness.

Such stances can only be taken seriously if people go to the CG and protest.

So far I've read nothing of active protest about this.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:35:04
I reckon it's Pauld  :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:37:23
swindontommy disagrees.

http://swindontommy.wordpress.com/

For what its worth, I think that making it into a lefty/righty think will only make things worse in regards to the behaviour of our fans. Focus on the football?

What is that main headline banner about? 'I didnt die for your to let this happen'. We are talking about a football manager, anyone think its worth dying to stop someone politically extreme becomming a football manager needs to sort their head out.

PDC's not even a racist. Lots of Swindon fans are, heard loads of monkey chants last season. Perspective - key word. STFC is not whiter than the virgin Mary and no one should think it is.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:37:41
Nah, it's too well written to be Paul.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 9, 2011, 20:42:31
So we have a kit supplier that was founded by a Nazi party member and a fascist manager...

...and I also hear that Phil Smith is quite chummy with Kim Jong-il too.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: ghanimah on Friday, June 10, 2011, 08:20:41
swindontommy is the ultimate of keyboard warrior pretentiousness.


Indeed, not even brave enough to turn the comments on - lest we point his loose use of the facts.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Trashbat? on Friday, June 10, 2011, 08:53:38
I just made the mistake of taking a look at that website, He should be employed to write in the match day programme..always thought it needed a bit of comedy


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 08:59:10
Tommy the Tool

I'm actually finding great joy in thinking how infuriated muppets like that must be. I imagine them to be sat at the computer, foaming at the mouth and spitting on the screen.

Hypocritical fucktard.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:09:29
Haha, you all know who it is behind that website, right?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:11:16
I'm guessing Dorset?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:13:58
This Tommy chap is on Twitter too, have a look-see who his first follower was.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: stfcinbmth on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:14:54
Who ever it is, he's not particularly pleased


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:15:44
What a total fucktard Tommy is.

Edit: So it's fB? OK, well fB isn't a fucktard, so perhaps it's semi-serious and tongue in cheek, because I can't imagine fB having views so polarising and full of vitriol.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: london_red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:22:35
The way he writes makes me think its Dorset. Certainly has a bit of a bee in his bonnet, whoever it is.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: london_red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:26:42
What a total fucktard Tommy is.

But he sure plays a mean pinball.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:32:42
What a total fucktard Tommy is.

Edit: So it's fB? OK, well fB isn't a fucktard, so perhaps it's semi-serious and tongue in cheek, because I can't imagine fB having views so polarising and full of vitriol.

I don't know fo' sho', but I'm pretty confident it is.

Either that, or sonicyouth.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 09:42:15
It's not fb

If it was it would be more intelligent and/or witty, he'd do a much better job of supporting his cause.

Tommy the tool is just spouting hatred.

I expect any anti-fascist with half a brain would look at that and grimace. 


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Gethimout on Friday, June 10, 2011, 11:31:44
Complete and utter bullshit! He/she really needs to get out a bit more  :pint:


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: bullethead on Friday, June 10, 2011, 13:08:31
Whatever comes from the appointment of PDC (promotion hopefully), one thing that has happened is that I have become a little more "educated" than I was before.
I used to make the assumption that Facism was Facism and it represented white power and anti-semitism but it seems from what I have read that the term has been somewhat misused over the years and it is far from clear cut. There is an awful lot of information on the subject out there and it would appear that many scholars have debated the subject for decades without coming close to agreement on what defines facism, so how 'swindontommy' has managed it I don't know.
To try and encapsulate what I have learnt, 'Italian Facism' in a nutshell seems to be a very strong political view that the good of the State takes precedent over the values and beliefs of the individual - "Everything in the State, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state". Does this mean that PDC thinks anyone who speaks out against the state should be made to ‘disappear’, or does it just represent his ideology of a country where everyone sings from the same hymn sheet and puts the good of the country above all else?
I really don’t know the answer to that as I have never had a conversation with the man, what I do know though is that whilst it is unlikely I'll ever come close to sharing PDC's political opinions, I am a mile from being convinced he is the ‘devil’ portrayed by ‘swindontommy’. As for those ‘Facist salutes’ of his, I understand they were doing this in Rome 2000 years ago so I won't lose any sleep over that.
Do I think he should be forced out of STFC? Will I hand back my season ticket? Has ‘swindontommy’ convinced me?
It's a No, No and No from me.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: leefer on Friday, June 10, 2011, 13:19:26
Fascist,Just an Italian/German word for communism really.

To be fair to Swindon Tommy he has his opinions and has aired them well in those bloggs,even if most of us think they are a trifle over the top and dont agree with his views.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 10, 2011, 13:31:37
Fascist,Just an Italian/German word for communism really.

To be fair to Swindon Tommy he has his opinions and has aired them well in those bloggs,even if most of us think they are a trifle over the top and dont agree with his views.

A trifle over the top? He has hundreds and thousands of crazy views! He should be taken into custardy!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: bullethead on Friday, June 10, 2011, 13:42:00
A trifle over the top? He has hundreds and thousands of crazy views! He should be taken into custardy!

I'm certainly not going to "dessert" the Town over it  :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: leefer on Friday, June 10, 2011, 13:45:40
A trifle over the top? He has hundreds and thousands of crazy views! He should be taken into custardy!

Its a free country.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Phil_S on Friday, June 10, 2011, 13:46:23
Whatever comes from the appointment of PDC (promotion hopefully), one thing that has happened is that I have become a little more "educated" than I was before.
I used to make the assumption that Facism was Facism and it represented white power and anti-semitism but it seems from what I have read that the term has been somewhat misused over the years and it is far from clear cut. There is an awful lot of information on the subject out there and it would appear that many scholars have debated the subject for decades without coming close to agreement on what defines facism, so how 'swindontommy' has managed it I don't know.
To try and encapsulate what I have learnt, 'Italian Facism' in a nutshell seems to be a very strong political view that the good of the State takes precedent over the values and beliefs of the individual - "Everything in the State, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state". Does this mean that PDC thinks anyone who speaks out against the state should be made to ‘disappear’, or does it just represent his ideology of a country where everyone sings from the same hymn sheet and puts the good of the country above all else?
I really don’t know the answer to that as I have never had a conversation with the man, what I do know though is that whilst it is unlikely I'll ever come close to sharing PDC's political opinions, I am a mile from being convinced he is the ‘devil’ portrayed by ‘swindontommy’. As for those ‘Facist salutes’ of his, I understand they were doing this in Rome 2000 years ago so I won't lose any sleep over that.
Do I think he should be forced out of STFC? Will I hand back my season ticket? Has ‘swindontommy’ convinced me?
It's a No, No and No from me.


Exactly my point afew weeks ago. (That what PDC calls Fascism is not neccesarily what you or I would ). Your definition above could may be applied to Communism as well.
Italian polictics are renowned for being all over the place. This just confirms that


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 13:47:56
Communism is actually considered a leftist idealogy, which I found quite interesting.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, June 10, 2011, 14:39:56
Communism is actually considered a leftist idealogy, which I found quite interesting.

The far left and far right meet in the middle. Imagine the spectrum as a circle rather than a straight line and it makes more sense.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 14:42:12
The far left and far right meet in the middle. Imagine the spectrum as a circle rather than a straight line and it makes more sense.

I tried that.

But was then left wondering why they are so opposed to each other.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:35:38
The way he writes makes me think its Dorset. Certainly has a bit of a bee in his bonnet, whoever it is.
Nothing to do with me.
I have made my point. I have contacted the club. I have written to Di Canio himself. Now it's time to let the man get on with the job. I won't be there to see it but I'll be very happy to renew my season ticket and go back to the County Ground once he's gone.

I am bewildered at the naivety of those people on the forums who think that fascism is in any way an OK ideology. I also find it incredible that people seriously think the straight armed "Roman" salute is ok, as if the events of the twentieth century can be set to one side. However, I'll say no more.

Needless to say, I've had no reply from either the club OR Mr Di Canio. Having said that, I was moderately encouraged by Nick Watkins' latest comments and at least it seems there are particular expectations from the club about Di Canio's conduct in future.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:40:16
I am bewildered at the naivety of those people on the forums who think that fascism is in any way an OK ideology. I also find it incredible that people seriously think the straight armed "Roman" salute is ok, as if the events of the twentieth century can be set to one side. However, I'll say no more.

Do you have any interest in the England side? Genuine question, I'm more uneasy with di Canio's views than most (although I will still be going to games) but reading up a little, Capello has also said things in praise of Franco and supposedly voted Fascist in Italy, but there's been very little uproar over that, perhaps because he's a little more intelligent with it. I think it's simply got to be accepted that Italian Politics is not quite as centre-ground as ours and a lot of Italian footballers will be extreme one way or the other, publically or otherwise.

Appreciate you don't want to be dragged into a debate once again, but just something I'd wondered.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: tans on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:44:11
And what did you write to di canio?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:47:27
Do you have any interest in the England side? Genuine question, I'm more uneasy with di Canio's views than most (although I will still be going to games) but reading up a little, Capello has also said things in praise of Franco and supposedly voted Fascist in Italy, but there's been very little uproar over that, perhaps because he's a little more intelligent with it. I think it's simply got to be accepted that Italian Politics is not quite as centre-ground as ours and a lot of Italian footballers will be extreme one way or the other, publically or otherwise.

Appreciate you don't want to be dragged into a debate once again, but just something I'd wondered.
I don't really have any great interest in the England side. I get very little pleasure out of watching a bunch of overpaid premier league prima donnas underperforming time after time.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:49:21
And what did you write to di canio?

I asked him about his views on the anti-Semitic policies of Benito Mussolini and the modern Italian fascist movement. I also asked how he would encourage my Jewish firends to renew their season tickets.
I was very polite and put nothing in my letter which would cause a reasonable person any sort of offence.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:52:04
Nothing to do with me.
I've just read SwindonTommy's blog and have to say I am in broad agreement with him/her. Tommy is clearly very angry (as am I) and I can see nothing in what he or she has written that is untrue.
Well done Tommy.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:53:26
I asked him about his views on the anti-Semitic policies of Benito Mussolini and the modern Italian fascist movement. I also asked how he would encourage my Jewish firends to renew their season tickets.
I was very polite and put nothing in my letter which would cause a reasonable person any sort of offence.

No offence but lets hope he bins it and gets on with more important things like signing players and winning League Two.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:56:50
So you don't think the manager of a club owes any duty to the supporters (who have been with the club far longer than he has or ever will be) or has any part to play in public relations?

The managers duty to the supporters is to get us promoted.

Fuck politics.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:57:35
???So you don't think the manager of a club owes any duty to the supporters (who have been with the club far longer than he has or ever will be) or has any part to play in public relations?
Surely the types of managers who disregard the views of supporters end up being branded "arrogant and/or ignorant" in the same way as Andy King and Steve McMahon?
What do you REALLY want your managers to do when it comes to relationships with the fans?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:57:45
How about if i was to write to you and ask?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 15:59:16
The managers duty to the supporters is to get us promoted.
Fuck politics.
Steve McMahon did that and "the fans" ended up hating him. Footy fans are a fickle bunch.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 16:04:10
Steve McMahon did that and "the fans" ended up hating him. Footy fans are a fickle bunch.

Steve McMahon was not hated at all when we went up.

Fickle, yeah. But that's to do with football, not politics.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 16:05:31
Steve McMahon was not hated at all when we went up.

Fickle, yeah. But that's to do with football, not politics.
So what was it that made people hate McMahon? (and yes, I know it wasn't politics)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, June 10, 2011, 16:10:28
So what was it that made people hate McMahon? (and yes, I know it wasn't politics)

he was a cunt ?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 16:12:48
he was a cunt ?
A fine intelligent response that takes the debate forward in a constructive way. What EXACTLY was it that prompts your detailed analysis?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 16:46:38
A fine intelligent response that takes the debate forward in a constructive way. What EXACTLY was it that prompts your detailed analysis?

He was a cunt.

Fred got it right first time. Whatever the reason it had fuck all to do with politics so I don't know where you are taking this.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Friday, June 10, 2011, 17:01:36
Dorset give you shovel a rest mate.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: leefer on Friday, June 10, 2011, 17:02:56
For what is worth i do appreciate peoples opinions on this,the against camp are in the minority but that could not be to big a majority if we are bottom of lge2 at Xmas!
As i have said in situations like this how far do you go,your doctor,boss could have views you dont agree with,do you change your job or doctor?
PDC likes attention,he is charasmatic and he is a Jeckyl and Hyde person,you could say he was a more inteligent version of Gazza if that is possible,i think it is a good appointment in that he will get us playing proper football again and that is why i welcome him here.

As for Mcmahon the reason he was despised by us fans was is desire to belittle our star players and promptly sell them at the drop of a hat without caring what the fans wanted...he was a later version of Dave Mackay who came in all ego and pissed a lot of people off.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, June 10, 2011, 17:08:19
So what was it that made people hate McMahon? (and yes, I know it wasn't politics)

He culled all the people at STFC who were more popular than him. He gutted the backroom staff (a group of people who cared massively for the club). Without them we became a hollow shell of a club. The club was lucky to survive the damage McMahon did.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 17:12:11
McMahon tore the heart and soul out of the club.

The cunt


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: RobertT on Friday, June 10, 2011, 17:49:06
McMahon came to be hated due to his actions while at the club, the sacking of wll liked people who had given good service to the club being a prime example.  IN the same way, Diamandis was hated in the end due to the way he did exactly the sam while seemingly keeping his own knackered companies running off the back of what little money the club was bringing in by the end.

Paolo Di Cano has done fuck all while Manager of Swindon to get any level of hatred by our fans.

His political beliefs may be not well received but for 99% of fans that won't even be the case, they just aren't interested.  Even those who find his brand of politcal beliefs repugnunt are generally able to keep that as a personal issue.  A very small handful of supporters feel this is an issue, and that is up to them.

Dorset, let it go, unless you feel strongly enough to protest.  Don't expect much support of your actions, which you should not confuse for people saying they think fascism is a good thing.  You differ by having a very extreme view on this matter the vast vast majority of people.  I am sure more people would be worried if he had a past record of instructing or taking part in acts of genocide, or public displays of racism or anti semitism.  He hasn't, so you can't and will never convince anyone.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: stfcinbmth on Friday, June 10, 2011, 17:54:50

I have made my point. I have contacted the club. I have written to Di Canio himself.



From one who couldn't give a toss about other peoples beliefs, I respect your opinion but I do think you have too much time on your hands.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, June 10, 2011, 20:28:28
A fine intelligent response that takes the debate forward in a constructive way. What EXACTLY was it that prompts your detailed analysis?
It may not be a detailed analysis but its a very short accurate, incisive summing up.
Is it possible that as well as only going to away games that you could only post on away fans forums?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, June 10, 2011, 20:37:59
It may not be a detailed analysis but its a very short accurate, incisive summing up.
Is it possible that as well as only going to away games that you could only post on away fans forums?

That is funny on so many angles


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 23:31:35
 I am sure more people would be worried if he had a past record of ...public displays of racism or anti semitism.  He hasn't, so you can't and will never convince anyone.
But that's exactly what he did on the three occasions he was photographed giving the fascist salute and got banned for doing it! Fascism is by it's very nature racist and anti-Semitic.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 23:33:16
It may not be a detailed analysis but its a very short accurate, incisive summing up.
Is it possible that as well as only going to away games that you could only post on away fans forums?
Why? Because I don't want to blow smoke up Di Canio's arse like the rest of you?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 23:35:32
McMahon tore the heart and soul out of the club.
How? I was a supporter at the time and I don't know what you are talking about. Not living in Swindon it's easy to miss some of the things that go on at the club SO I'd really like to know exactly what it was that McMahon did.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 23:38:38
Interesting. Who did McMahon get rid of?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Friday, June 10, 2011, 23:40:02
From one who couldn't give a toss about other peoples beliefs, I respect your opinion but I do think you have too much time on your hands.
Well, judging by the fact that you have nine times more posts than me I guess you must have even more time on your hands than I do.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 00:12:12
Well, judging by the fact that you have nine times more posts than me I guess you must have even more time on your hands than I do.

Bit random, but Dorset do you like George Freidrich Handel?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 00:24:20
If people got over the fact that Dorset Red doesn't like Di Canio then maybe DR would stop labouring the point so much.

FWIW I don't think anyone who has ever sung 'build a bonfire' is an arsonist or 'shoot the Oxford scum' is going to go Raoul Moat on our inbred neighbours.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Ironside on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 00:29:00
Fascists have more fun....FACT!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 00:55:13
I don't know fo' sho', but I'm pretty confident it is.

Either that, or sonicyouth.
Nothing to do with me, I've stated my opinion on the appointment and intend to sit back and enjoy a summer without STFC causing me stress every weekend. I do remember seeing a RT on Twitter from fB about it a few weeks ago though.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: bullethead on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 07:36:31
But that's exactly what he did on the three occasions he was photographed giving the fascist salute and got banned for doing it! Fascism is by it's very nature racist and anti-Semitic.

Is it though? Nazi 'facism' then yes, the original 'Italian facism'? Depends on what you read I guess.
Maybe Di Canio would argue he was giving a 'Roman salute', a salute later hijacked by the Nazi party in Germany. I believe I have also read that Italian Jews took part in the 'March on Rome' in 1922 and that Mussolini himself had a Jewish mistress.
You may be right in your assumption Dorset that PDC is racist and anti-semitic but I've yet to see any proof of this.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 07:42:11
yawn.what a load of old shit that was tedious 2 weeks ago.
i gave up on page 4 of this shit thread


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: herthab on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 07:53:05
yawn.what a load of old shit that was tedious 2 weeks ago.
i gave up on page 4 of this shit thread
Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 08:00:58
you're welcome


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 08:09:10
Interesting. Who did McMahon get rid of?

Trollope, Rowlands. Basically most of the people that were there in the good times (the previous 10 years) in the background were purged. People who loved STFC. You wonder whether working with McMahon was enough to tip the kit man over the edge (Kevin Morris?).

Shaun Taylor and Fjortoft were both too popular with the fans for McMahon.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 08:11:59
Trollope, Rowlands. Basically most of the people that were there in the good times (the previous 10 years) in the background were purged. People who loved STFC. You wonder whether working with McMahon was enough to tip the kit man over the edge (Kevin Morris?).

Shaun Taylor and Fjortoft were both too popular with the fans for McMahon.

The twat also got rid of Digby and Bodin on the pretext of them being high earners. Just coincidence that they were 100 times more popular than him? :sherlock:


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 08:28:02
Interesting. Who did McMahon get rid of?

I can't believe you actually asked that, luckily spencer was kind enough to fill you in


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 09:05:29
Why? Because I don't want to blow smoke up Di Canio's arse like the rest of you?
I'm not blowing smoke up his arse nor am i deriding him. I'm pretty neutral on the appointment. I think its a high risk appointment because I can't see any middle ground - it will either be brilliant or a car crash. I'll judge him on his managerial ability and nothing else.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 09:34:58
Fascists have more fun....FACT!

If you've an unhealthy interest in uniforms, leather and death....then you might be right.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 09:50:03
I'm not blowing smoke up his arse nor am i deriding him. I'm pretty neutral on the appointment. I think its a high risk appointment because I can't see any middle ground - it will either be brilliant or a car crash. I'll judge him on his managerial ability and nothing else.

I think this statement sums up the thoughts of say 90% (possibly more) of our support. Of course there are the minority that are so appalled by PDCs politics that they are staying away, and that is their want. I have never been interested in politics and that is going to remain the case. I am only interested in who we are signing, how well we are playing etc. Not if the manager is making fascist salutes or not, couldn't give a toss.

And then we have Dorset Red, we all know what he thinks, but he has to preach to us. Repeatedly. And its quite boring.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 10:05:37
I can't believe you actually asked that, luckily spencer was kind enough to fill you in


I think he's (Dorset) trying to make a point.

I have no fucking idea what the point is he is trying to make though.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dazzza on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 10:25:48
If you've an unhealthy interest in uniforms, leather and death....then you might be right.

That Pulp Fiction scene springs to mind.





Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 11:02:08
That Pulp Fiction scene springs to mind.

[url width=240 height=167]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-2rvdZL-TFgav-eEYzsyH85wdyAhJXmyllQlonSNyW-tcXDIaRw[/url]


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: DiV on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 13:20:58
Interesting. Who did McMahon get rid of?

I cant believe this even needed to be asked.

Unless of course this has been a massive wind up from the start?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 13:38:02
I cant believe this even needed to be asked.

Unless of course this has been a massive wind up from the start?

I don't know how old Dorset Red is, but I suppose there's a chance he might be too young to know anything about the McMahon era? We are talking the best part of 15 years ago, so if he's only late teens now he could genuinely not know?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 13:43:34
Will Dorset Red still be going on and on and on about Fascist, evil Di Canio half way through the season ?

The sooner we start signing players and pre season starts the better so we can talk about football again.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 14:29:26
Getting back to the original article, interesting to see Carlisle United are really happy that they have sold nearly 2000 season tickets.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 15:27:32
How many have we sold now ? Must be 4,500 ?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Fred Elliot on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 15:57:17
Why? Because I don't want to blow smoke up Di Canio's arse like the rest of you?

Try and find a single post of mine where I have "blew smoke up PDC's bum hole"

I agree with Rob T

Just because I don't denounce PDC's beliefs, it doesn't mean to say that I agree with them

If you want the truth I quite honestly don't give a rats arse.

However, McMahon was a cunt


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 16:14:08
How many have we sold now ? Must be 4,500 ?
4,200 I think it said in the Adver in the week.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 16:16:50
If we can make a couple of really great signings its not too late to get back to 5000.

Doesnt look likely at the moment, fucking Marvin 'anger management' Morgan turning us down.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: herthab on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 16:18:02
It said 4,250 on Tues/Weds.

Doubt if we'll get many more.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 16:23:34
If we've only lost 800 or so ST holders I'm impressed.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 17:09:33
More like 1400 lost as it stands, but I'm sure the final figure will be around 4,500 which is a very decent amount.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: stfcinbmth on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 18:37:15
Well, judging by the fact that you have nine times more posts than me I guess you must have even more time on your hands than I do.

Not all on one subject tho. Please don't write, it'll be straight in the recycle bin if you do


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:20:18
I cant believe this even needed to be asked.
Humour me. I know Fjortoft went right at the start of McMahon's reign, but after that who DID McMahon get rid of? I thought the problem with McMahon was his refuseal to resign when the form went belly up, (like the vast majority of other managers).


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: DiV on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:22:33
Humour me. Who DID McMahon get rid of?

try reading the thread properly, its already been answered

Trollope, Rowlands. Basically most of the people that were there in the good times (the previous 10 years) in the background were purged. People who loved STFC. You wonder whether working with McMahon was enough to tip the kit man over the edge (Kevin Morris?).

Shaun Taylor and Fjortoft were both too popular with the fans for McMahon.

Oxford?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:25:44
Not all on one subject tho. Please don't write, it'll be straight in the recycle bin if you do
If you paid any attention you'd know I have been posting on this forum (and others) for years! The vast majority of my posts were prior to Di Canio's arrival and have generally been reasonably well received. THe last time I got this animated was over the fight to remove Diamandis from the club. Don't recall too many people disagreeing with me then!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:31:45
try reading the thread properly, its already been answered

Oxford?
Not sure that I agree with the analysis you have quoted. Taylor and Fjortoft would have HAD to go following our relegation. There's no way we could have kept them on premier league wages with third division attendances. As for Trollope and Rowland, I was sad to see them go, (particularly Trollope) but EVERY manager brings in his own team behind the scenes, (as Wilson did and Di Canio has done).
The issue with the Kevin Morris is very difficult to talk about and I don't know that we even should. None of us can really know what happened there, but I seem to recall his wife has died not long before hand.
The fact remains that I don't recall ANYBODY having a major problem with McMahon while things were going well. And YES, I was there for the on-pitch protests.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:40:38
I just thought I'd add that Kevin Morris' suicide occurred during John Gorman's tenure as manager.



Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: DiV on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:43:22
I doubt Shaun Taylor was ever on 'Premiership wages' he'd signed in 91 and didnt leave till September 96 after our relegation from the Premier League, our relegation from Division One and our promoted from Division Two.

Fjortoft wasnt sold till deadline day in our division one season, so not right away like he needed be off the wage bill - and for 1.3m - one of the most under valued transfers in history! Few months later Norwich got 5m for Chris bloody Sutton!!!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:46:06
I doubt Shaun Taylor was ever on 'Premiership wages' he'd signed in 91 and didnt leave till September 96 after our relegation from the Premier League, our relegation from Division One and our promoted from Division Two.

Fjortoft wasnt sold till deadline day in our division one season, so not right away like he needed be off the wage bill - and for 1.3m - one of the most under valued transfers in history! Few months later Norwich got 5m for Chris bloody Sutton!!!

This remains quite probably the most pathetic sum ever received for a striker of his calibre.  A travesty.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:46:56
Not sure that I agree with the analysis you have quoted. Taylor and Fjortoft would have HAD to go following our relegation. There's no way we could have kept them on premier league wages with third division attendances. As for Trollope and Rowland, I was sad to see them go, (particularly Trollope) but EVERY manager brings in his own team behind the scenes, (as Wilson did and Di Canio has done).
The issue with the Kevin Morris is very difficult to talk about and I don't know that we even should. None of us can really know what happened there, but I seem to recall his wife has died not long before hand.
The fact remains that I don't recall ANYBODY having a major problem with McMahon while things were going well. And YES, I was there for the on-pitch protests.

fjortoft could have kept us up with his goals, he was sold on transfer deadline day for a pitiful amount of money.  we could easily have sold him in the close season and could have still got more than we did anyway - it was widely felt at the time that mcmahon was jealous of the love for fjortoft.

as for taylor that was completely out of the blue and the money we got for him was shit too.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: DiV on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:50:00
This remains quite probably the most pathetic sum ever received for a striker of his calibre.  A travesty.

He'd had a decent premier league season then played at the World Cup. Had already got 25 goals come March and was one of the highest goal scorers in England.

## Andy Cole was the British record transfer at the time 7m January 95. Broken by Bergkamp in June 7.5m


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: stfcinbmth on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 19:57:45
If you paid any attention you'd know I have been posting on this forum (and others) for years! The vast majority of my posts were prior to Di Canio's arrival and have generally been reasonably well received. THe last time I got this animated was over the fight to remove Diamandis from the club. Don't recall too many people disagreeing with me then!

Can't say I paid much attention tbh having only joined myself Thursday, September 24, 2009 just before the transfer of Austin from Poole. Just a relative newbie here. So really you only bother posting if something pisses you off?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 20:24:11
I just thought I'd add that Kevin Morris' suicide occurred during John Gorman's tenure as manager.

Apologies for that bit of misinformation.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 20:28:10
Not sure that I agree with the analysis you have quoted. Taylor and Fjortoft would have HAD to go following our relegation. There's no way we could have kept them on premier league wages with third division attendances. As for Trollope and Rowland, I was sad to see them go, (particularly Trollope) but EVERY manager brings in his own team behind the scenes, (as Wilson did and Di Canio has done).
The issue with the Kevin Morris is very difficult to talk about and I don't know that we even should. None of us can really know what happened there, but I seem to recall his wife has died not long before hand.
The fact remains that I don't recall ANYBODY having a major problem with McMahon while things were going well. And YES, I was there for the on-pitch protests.

He did get rid of people who loved the club because he wanted people who were servants of himself.

Most players at that time said he was an angry, aggressive man who made playing football at STFC a completely joyless experience and turned good people away from the club time and time again.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 20:54:02
Can't say I paid much attention tbh having only joined myself Thursday, September 24, 2009 just before the transfer of Austin from Poole. Just a relative newbie here. So really you only bother posting if something pisses you off?
soapy tit wank! Something like that.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:07:05
Taylor and Digby

Absolute legends, two names that make me proud to be a Swindon fan. Fjortoft wasn't here for that long but still rightly earned a legendary status amongst the fans and loved it here.

I still seethe at the thought of that scouse cunt getting rid for his own personal gains. I remember him saying he wanted players "in his own mould". What an arrogant fucking prick he was.

Dorset...... Stop your trolling and fuck off.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:18:20
So, what I'm hearing is a lot of "many people think" and "it was widely felt" but no hard facts. I agree Fjortoft was sold for a pitiful amount of money but I don't hold with the view that this was becasue of McMahon's jealousy.

As I remember it at the time, people were getting pissed off with McMahon to the point that threats of violence were being made against him. This was partly because he was a P.R. disaster. He came across as arrogant and intollerant of the fans. The same was said of Andy King late on in his second reign at the club and we can certainly agree that this is how Paul Hart came across.

My point is this; the manager of the club has a high profile P.R. position as well as having the responsibility for performances on the pitch. If the manager comes across badly, (like McMahon, King, Malpas and Hart) people turn against him.

This brings me back to Di Canio. If I, or anybody else, should ask him a question which might have some impact on the public's perception of him, he has a DUTY to respond. If he fails to respond he runs the risk of beeing classed alongside McMahon, King and Hart with an arrogant attitude towards supporters of the club (which, of course, would only happen when most fans started to think things were going badly).

The question of his political views and past conduct has been raised by a small group of people (not least me). Although the numbers raising the question are few, he should not ignore it and hope it goes away as that will only breed more resentment. All he needs to do is be quite open in acknowledging that many disagree with his views and make some sort of gesture towards those who WANT to go on watching the club but find it difficult under the current circumstances.
 
As I have stated several times before, my particular concern is towards my Jewish friends who have followed the club for years but feel they can not back a man who has openly supported the views of Benitop Mussolini, (resonsible for anti-Semitic legislation in Italy in the run-up to WW2).

Now, I don't want to go over the whole argument again. You know where I stand and I know that most of you don't give a flying f***.
Let the insults recommence. :(


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:22:51
Taylor and Digby
Absolute legends, two names that make me proud to be a Swindon fan.
I agree with you 100%.
Quote
Dorset...... Stop your trolling and fuck off.
Not trolling. Read my last post and at least TRY to understand what the problem is. I fear that the second syllable of your name is quite appropriate.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:24:00
Dorset I think you've made your point about 10 times now. Is there any point carrying on with this thread, as it's just going round and round in circles.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:25:07
Dorset I think you've made your point about 10 times now. Is there any point carrying on with this thread, as it's just going round and round in circles.
Actually, it's not. The question has moved on to whether or not the manager has a public relations role within the club. If so, should he respond to letters and emails from supporters?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:26:32
Actually, it's not. The question has moved on to whether or not the manager has a public relations role within the club. If so, should he respond to letters and emails from supporters?
Even so you're only digging yourself into a hole.  :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:28:15
This brings me back to Di Canio.

No shit sherlock

You deliberately use an emotive subject like some cunt like McMahon whom tore apart this club, that we all love, to push your own political agenda. That is very very very poor form.

This forum is not a podium that you can use to continually push your beliefs upon others. You say you don't want to talk about it, and then you do so anyway through the back door.

Who the fuck do you think you are, you cunt?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:29:04
Somebody, please just ban him.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:29:39
No shit sherlock

You deliberately use an emotive subject like some cunt like McMahon whom tore apart this club, that we all love, to push your own political agenda. That is very very very poor form.

This forum is not a podium that you can use to continually push your beliefs upon others. You say you don't want to talk about it, and then you do so anyway through the back door.

Who the fuck do you think you are, you cunt?
Bangkok I'm slowly starting to like you.  :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:34:34
i was 15 years old and lived 60 miles away when fjortoft was sold and i could tell even then that there was more to it than getting him off the wage bill, whether we had got the right money or not (which we all agree we didn't) that was not the time to sell him, his goals could well have kept us up...


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:41:10
Somebody, please just ban him.
Yeah. Go ahead. Ban me. This forum should only be for people who like to call each other cunts. NOT for people who want to try to have a serious discussion. Bankok Red you are an arse.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:42:29
No shit sherlock

You deliberately use an emotive subject like some cunt like McMahon whom tore apart this club, that we all love, to push your own political agenda. That is very very very poor form.
You make me laugh. You call McMahon an emotive subject but you don't seem to think that fascism and the deaths of millions falls into the same category. You need to sort your life out mate!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:47:43
You make me laugh. You call McMahon an emotive subject but you don't seem to think that fascism and the deaths of millions falls into the same category. You need to sort your life out mate!

Di Canio didnt kill anyone. You need to decide if you are in or out?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 21:58:08
Yeah. Go ahead. Ban me. This forum should only be for people who like to call each other cunts. NOT for people who want to try to have a serious discussion. Bankok Red you are an arse.
http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-c7a9207a423c2af07a8ee92859cf28cd


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 22:03:05
http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-c7a9207a423c2af07a8ee92859cf28cd

Ha

I'm beginning to like you more as well. Love it.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Saturday, June 11, 2011, 22:08:13
http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-c7a9207a423c2af07a8ee92859cf28cd
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, June 12, 2011, 04:41:50
I don't know if DR mentioned it, but he's got some Jewish mates.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, June 12, 2011, 08:32:30
So Dorset Red, which username were you posting under between 2006 and your return this year?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: corner on Sunday, June 12, 2011, 08:49:18
So Dorset Red, which username were you posting under between 2006 and your return this year?
The last 112 posts 8 1/2 pages is dorset going on about di canio, sort it out. uve made ur point now fuck off!!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, June 12, 2011, 09:00:25
If you want to know about the Scouse cunt and his equally Scouse cunt friend then buy Andy Rowland a pint in the Plough in Old Town.
I'm sure BR can talk for himself but "Macca" is probably an emotive subject because this is a football forum. Macca's managerial methods are football related.
As for Di Canio being answerable to you, what can he achieve by answering your questions? The more he tries to explain himself the more people like you will take every word apart and on and on it goes.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: leftside on Sunday, June 12, 2011, 09:32:24
Dorset I think you've made your point about 10 times now. Is there any point carrying on with this thread, as it's just going round and round in circles.

If you don't want to Dorset Red to keep making his point, stop posting questions!



Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, June 12, 2011, 09:39:11
Little known fact, Dorset Red worked in television marketing for Ariston in the late 80's.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaAoTA3t_yk&feature=related


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, June 13, 2011, 17:17:52
If you don't want to Dorset Red to keep making his point, stop posting questions!
Exactly. If people ask questions I will answer them. They can't then yell at me for posting.
They can't have it both ways.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, June 13, 2011, 17:21:42
So Dorset Red, which username were you posting under between 2006 and your return this year?
Now that would be telling!
For some reason I was unable to access the forum under this name for a couple of years! Let's just say I've been a  regular  in the intervening period and have generally been regarded as a sound poster.... that is until I dared to hold a different view from most other people.
Suddenly people who've agreed with me on many issues now think I am deserving of abuse by the bucket load.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: herthab on Monday, June 13, 2011, 17:29:08
Now that would be telling!
For some reason I was unable to access the forum under this name for a couple of years! Let's just say I've been a  regular  in the intervening period and have generally been regarded as a sound poster.... that is until I dared to hold a different view from most other people.
Suddenly people who've agreed with me on many issues now think I am deserving of abuse by the bucket load.

Bullshit. If you've used another name why hide the fact?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Dorset Red on Monday, June 13, 2011, 17:50:46
Well, there we go. New depths reached on the Town End!
I'm off

Edit: removed quoted text, because he's a cunt and is now banned, Bazza. x


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: herthab on Monday, June 13, 2011, 17:57:22
You're as funny as cancer.

Fucking twat.

Edit: removed quoted text, because he's a cunt and is now banned, Bazza. x


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Monday, June 13, 2011, 17:59:22
fuck off twat

Edit: removed quoted text, because he's a cunt and is now banned, Bazza. x.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: leefer on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:05:46
Confusie?...fuck me dont try talking Italian on the internet,bad enough with all these fuckwits who cannot spell :D

Edit: removed quoted text, because he's a cunt and is now banned, Bazza. x


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:17:02
Oh boy.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:20:28
And I thought I was always the one who took things too far...


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:29:19
So what's been going on here then?

Edit: not removed quoted text, because Bazza's a cunt. x


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:34:06
Maybe Ironside gave him a heart attack


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:34:32
Some trolling cunt, Forza Rosso, went a bit overboard and said something along the lines that Dorset should go to the gas chamber with his mates or something. His posts, along with the quotes, were removed because he's either a bit backward or a fan of another club.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:35:33
Oh OK, you were right, he is a cunt and deserves to be banned.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 13, 2011, 18:39:33
I suppose every now and again these sort of posts will emerge.

We'll have to form a Dad's Army group to fight such forces. WE'RE DOOMED!

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Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:13:14
Turns out it Forza Rosso was Dorset Red posting shit to try and make those that he opposes look worse. What an utter wanker.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:14:30
Some people....  ::)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:17:06
Turns out it Forza Rosso was Dorset Red posting shit to try and make those that he opposes look worse. What an utter wanker.

Haha. Shamed!  :bye:


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:17:39
Hahahahaha. Who was he before?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:18:00
What a tool.

Tommy the tool even.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Benzel on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:18:13
Pahaha that is fucking pathetic.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:18:51
His posts, along with the quotes, were removed

And then Barry repeats them :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:22:26
Turns out it Forza Rosso was Dorset Red posting shit to try and make those that he opposes look worse. What an utter wanker.

How bizarre.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:23:52
I'm guessing that's the last we see of Dorset


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:25:09
He's played it all wrong. What you've got to do is get other people to sign up and do stuff for you. That's what I did. Amateur.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:28:16
Hahahahaha. Who was he before?

Na, it was better than that. He created a new account and started writing to himself that he deserved the gas chamber like his mates or something. He essentially wrote things that others have wrote, who oppose him, but with less thought and harder left/right opinions.

I then banned Forza Rosso and deleted his shit (although have mentioned what he wrote!). Si Pie then noticed he was one and the same.

I can't believe someone felt the need to create an account and make those that don't side with him look like mindless idiots. Seriously, WTF?!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:30:42
There are some strange people out there who will do anything to try and prove a point. He'll be back in a few months with a new username.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:33:05
Was Forza Rosso actually a new account?

I'm sure I'd seen it before


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:34:45
there's a forza swindon


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Sussex on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:37:03
He didn't really think that through did he.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Benzel on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:46:33
Is DR banned now? Let him back... if he could fucking face up to it...


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, June 13, 2011, 19:50:31
think it was his way of saying he wasn't coming back anyway


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 13, 2011, 20:02:19
think it was his way of saying he wasn't coming back anyway

Nah

I bet he just did it for his swindon tommy blog. I still doubt we'll see him again though, there's no coming back from that!


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 13, 2011, 20:06:04
Nah

I bet he just did it for his swindon tommy blog. I still doubt we'll see him again though, there's no coming back from that!

Probably sensible that he disabled the comments section of his blog.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 13, 2011, 20:06:39
Turns out it Forza Rosso was Dorset Red posting shit to try and make those that he opposes look worse. What an utter wanker.

I'm sorry but that's pretty funny.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 13, 2011, 20:13:56
Turns out it Forza Rosso was Dorset Red posting shit to try and make those that he opposes look worse. What an utter wanker.

..."and I would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for you meddling kids!"...

Sorry, that just made me think of the closing scene you used to get every week on Scooby Doo (apart from the 'utter wanker' bit, don't remember Fred or Daphne ever coming out with that)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, June 13, 2011, 20:14:36
I must have missed that, was Dorset confirmed as Swindontommy?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 13, 2011, 20:15:15
I must have missed that, was Dorset confirmed as Swindontommy?

N'ah. Speculating.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: spacey on Monday, June 13, 2011, 20:35:38
It's people like Devon Red that give those who are opposed to totalitarian single-party dictatorships a bad name.



Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: herthab on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:10:46
What a fucking arsehole. I was opposed to his views re Di Canio but did he seriously think people would approve of his Forza Rosso persona?

This cunt needs to be outed.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:13:28
What a fucking arsehole. I was opposed to his views re Di Canio but did he seriously think people would approve of his Forza Rosso persona?

This cunt needs to be outed.

I think that's pretty much what's happened isn't it?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: herthab on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:21:52
I think that's pretty much what's happened isn't it?

Nah, I want a name and address.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: leefer on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:23:14
Think Herthab means Personally :)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:28:09
Nah, I want a name and address.

Well, I reckon he might live in Dorset. That narrows it down a bit. :sherlock:


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:31:02
send a detective down to dorset and one to home and away games on saturdays and- home games he'll be in dorset somewhere, away games he'll be watching swindon by the time di Canio has moved on we just have correllated enough information to come up with an identity


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:34:15
I bet the cunt really lives in Oxford anyway


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, June 13, 2011, 21:39:10
an elaborate ruse all along by a jealous scum fan?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, June 13, 2011, 22:21:18
what is this i don't even


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, June 13, 2011, 22:35:54
what is this i don't even

Did you have a stroke part way through that sentence?


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: stfcinbmth on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 03:34:34
I miss all the good stuff.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 08:10:53
Probably sensible that he disabled the comments section of his blog.

I notice that on Tommy the Tool's blog there's no posting on the 6th of June. Hmm not as committed to the cause as he would have us believe.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 08:32:59
Dorset has been a twat,but he aint the only one. He tried to sway the debate it would seem,but took undue abuse in the run up to that.
It's easy to gang up on someone and is the biggest shit stain on this forum.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 08:36:25
Dorset has been a twat,but he aint the only one. He tried to sway the debate it would seem,but took undue abuse in the run up to that.
It's easy to gang up on someone and is the biggest shit stain on this forum.

I didn't agree with his stance, but it wasn't anything personal.
Well it wasn't until he came up with an alter ego that was sicker than anything said against him.
He was a fucking troll.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 09:01:38
Dorset has been a twat,but he aint the only one. He tried to sway the debate it would seem,but took undue abuse in the run up to that.
It's easy to gang up on someone and is the biggest shit stain on this forum.

If somebody acts like a cunt, they should expect to be treated like a cunt.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:02:02
Expect to get some stick then Bangkok


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:03:45
:)


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:48:08
Dorset has been a twat,but he aint the only one. He tried to sway the debate it would seem,but took undue abuse in the run up to that.
It's easy to gang up on someone and is the biggest shit stain on this forum.

That's not a TEF thing that's a life thing. If someone has an opinion that a hell of a lot of people oppose, and they're quite outspoken about it then 'ganging up' (which is the wrong phase to use IMO) is inevitable. Happens everywhere, all the time.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 10:52:11
It's got fuck all to do with his opinion.

He's not the only one on here with that opinion and the others don't get the abuse. The difference is the others don't shove it down everybody else's throat and manipulate the forum in a trollish manner to get their own way.

He's a cunt



Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 11:14:55
It's got fuck all to do with his opinion.

He's not the only one on here with that opinion and the others don't get the abuse. The difference is the others don't shove it down everybody else's throat and manipulate the forum in a trollish manner to get their own way.

He's a cunt



while that post summed it up, the last three words would have done just as well on their own


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 11:51:27
Bring back j1mmy.


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: mrverve on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 11:57:10
from the thisis days...


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 11:59:12
he was on here too for a while. now he was someone you'd twat


Title: Re: Adver News: Di Canio receiving positive response from fans, says Watkins
Post by: luckyluke699 on Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 12:16:42
But that's exactly what he did on the three occasions he was photographed giving the fascist salute and got banned for doing it! Fascism is by it's very nature racist and anti-Semitic.

Paolo is "a fascist but not a racist" - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4544008.stm

If you're going to attempt to argue a debate, please don't simply ignore the well known information that directly contradicts your argument. That in my eyes makes you more of a cunt than anything else...

Fascism is a wide ranging term, and not all encompassing. You can only go on what Paolo is quoted as saying directly. Everything else is just pure speculation.

Personally I feel sorry for the bloke for having wankers write in asking him fucking stupid questions based solely out of ill thought out anger when all he's stated is his desire to take this club forward.