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A mate has just pointed me to the Brighton board and they are chasing Charlie Austin in the January window..

Any truth?

Chase all they want, he wont move to them, its a sideways move, if they were a division higher then there may be some substance to the rumour.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

No.

Thats what was said about Greer, He left for Brighton...They are a club on the move I think..

To coin a phrase.....The Greer situation was very very different.

it's blatantly obvious a number of clubs will be chasing him.a player scoring regualrly will attract bids from elsewhere

Exactly

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn :crash:

Yes he is going to Brighton becuase they are an incredibly massive club with huge ambitions!!

Are Brighton likely to pay 2-3 million which is likely to be an approximate asking price?

I wouldn't have thought so!

As long as someone hands over the thick part of £3m then I don't give a fuck who he signs for. Maybe to keep Dave happy we could ask the Gay Boys for Greer back as part of the deal.

saw there new ground o n the FL show, must say it does look good ::)

I know it's been argued about before, but why do people think Austin is worth the best part of three million when Cox went for 1.2m (rising to 1.7)?

promotion push,new ground.

Alot more interest and hype surrounding Austin than there was Cox I feel...

delusion.

Some people here seem to wear blinkers,( when looking at other teams)

In my opinion we had a good season last year, but it was probably an over acheivement..

What have we done so far this year?  Nothing..... we are far from the best in League one...

Other teams are better than us....Brighton included....I must admit their future with a new ground looks a lot better than ours, where our planning permission for redevlopment, has to my knowledge not been submitted yet.

Yeah. Claiming Brighton would be a sideways move is fucking deluded. We'd all have a moan if Charlie went off to just sit on the bench as an established championship side. Perfect move to get himself first on the teamsheet before almost guaranteed promotion to champ next year.

Brighton are doing very well at the moment, and are a better team than us this year. But I can't imagine Charlie going to another League One side in the mere hope of getting promotion. In case anybody's forgotten, Leeds looked like they had promotion in the bag at Christmas last year, then very nearly didn't make it. And Oxford have shown time and time again that being top early on means nothing.

If Charlie was going to go to a club like Brighton, I'd imagine they'd need to get promoted first. There'll be plenty of interest from sides throughout the Championship which will be more attractive as long as Brighton are in League One.

In the Football League paper yesterday there was a big spread on Charlie, with a list as long as your arm of teams after him. Going to be a struggle come Jan to keep him, and with so many after him if he does go I'm positive it wouldn't be less than 2 million, which would still be cheap for the amount of goals he is likely to get, hopefully though it will still be us he's banging them in for.

i think charlie will wait till the season ends before moving.but if the money offered tempts fitton enough, the players wants wont come into it..

With the list of higher ranked clubs reportedly interested in him, I would have though Brighton would be way down on the list right now surely? If they get promotion this year then it's a different matter (if they think he's worth what we are prepared to accept)

Another question, he is from Poole will he want to move oop North?

Please go back to the Brighton board troll.

Amex are paying for part of it via their sponsorship, and our owners have got more money than their chairman.

And Brighton have not got the million plus transfer fee. He would go to a bigger club than Brighton...End of.

If brighton want him and offer enough money (not £3 million like the deluded think), then he will go. Simple as that

The cost of the stadium has now risen to £100m which the chairman has funded with an interest free loan to the club although he's said he's not expecting much of it back and will convert it into shares. AMEX are sponsoring the stadium but the amount they're providing is very little compared to the overall cost of the development.

I suspect we could well have a million odd to spend, although it is speculation. We were told the budget went up 10% this year and we spent about a million the previous summer. Although we spent 250k on Greer we actually made a profit this summer as we sold Crofts to Norwich for 300k and Dickinson for 150k.

Having said that - as much as I would love this rumour to be true - I'm not convinced it is. I suspect we're more likely to buy a wide man than a striker, but you never know.

Think Cox went for £1.5m rising to £1.9m.

As to why Austin is worth more;
- two years younger
- on a longer contract
- higher goal ratio (Austin 0.57 vs Cox 0.42)
- he's a better all round player
- more potential (only been full time for one year, Cox has been full time since he was 16)

All I can say is you'd better not go up ( unless we do) As I quite fancy visiting your new ground after many times freezing my what nots off at the Withdean. Got to love internet rumours whenever someone has a hot property, there are always clowns starting rumours, so I think it would be very unlikely.

Well we're wobbling at the moment. A bit worried we could drop like a stone in the coming weeks. Playing Southampton away tomorrow night and its worrying because they're hitting form and we're losing form. If we can pull off a win, wow, big message to the rest of the league and hopefully back on track with a confidence booster. If we lose, well we could have seen an 8 point lead reduced to 1.

THEY HAVE  a mock up of his shirt already PUKE!

[url width=800 height=794]http://www.seagullsdirect.co.uk/images/preview-shirt.php?name=austin &number=32&shirt=home&x=500[/url]

Someone should tell them his first name is Charlie..

How come they are being sponsored by one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ?

They'll be after Raphael next....

i thought he was from hungerford

Naah, Leonardo...

Hahaha.

Austin an all round better player than Cox.

Hahaha.

you could add why you think hes wrong  :badmood:

Good point.

DMR, how about you share your wisdom and explain what makes Cox a better all round player than Austin.

I'll have a go at that,

Cox scored 29 goals in a struggling team,and  demonstrated his ability to score from long range and close in.

Austin appears to work harder across the pitch closing down the opposition.

Both players have a tendency for unneccesary bookings

Austin is better in the air, Cox better running at people

Cox appears to have greater pace, although Austin finds space in the box more easily

Austin needs to develop further (as he will as he faces better defenders and teams) before we can make a true comparison.

We've been lucky to have them both as players in recent times.

My conclusion is that it's a close run thing.

Better touch, more pace (although niether are quick), better finisher, better workrate, better vision, better at making space for himself, better at making space for others... just generally more talent... look at some of the goals Cox scored for us, goals you'd never see Charlie score (Fenerbache and Walsall spring to mind).

just wait till he scores a bicycle kick in the next game  :badmood:

I have to agree with DMR on this one, Cox was a much better all round player, but Charlie is a natural goalscorer and his all round play has improved hugely since he signed for us.

Charlie will get even better in time.

Now a Cox/Austin pairing up front would be nice to see!

i'd give them 500k , a tesco clubcard  and morrison  :D

the shop or the player  ;D

Austin is better in the air, better control and passing, a better finisher (higher scoring/chances ratio), drops back more and has a higher work rate. He doesn't score many from distance and doesn't take players on as much, but part of that is just due a difference in his style of play and positioning (he's more of a penalty area player than Cox). He does lack pace, but no more than Pericard or Dossevi or Paynter.

Sure Cox scored better goals, but what the fuck does that matter?

When it comes to how much we'd get for him, we'll get more for Austin for the reasons I gave before.

I agree with DMR and JJ!

I'd rate them as both ultra shit hot at this level whatever their different attributes. Therefore the starting price is 1.9 million...

austin's goal made it onto the league 1 goals of the week on the OS  :clap:

I think Cox gets the nod slightly due to having a better all around game and scored goals consistantly for a longer period of time than Charlie has so far.  A lot of Charlie's value in the transfer market is down to potential and how much clubs are prepared to pay for that risk.

If you are a top half championship club with £2m to spend in January on a striker do you go for (a) Austin, (b) a current Champ striker with proven record or (c) someone like Coxy assuming WBA will let him go.

I think most clubs would play it safe and take option b or c.

Austin gets my vote because he's still with us. To hell with that Tesco bag wearing other clown :)

Simon Cox never got the besotted doe-eyed love and adoration of Steve Claridge. Having Claridge tell Manish Bhasin, almost every week, that Charlie's the best striker in the league (mostly because he reminds him of himself) has got to add £500k to his price.

and all the newspaper articles that have featured charlie since singing must put his price up. i would think more people would know who charlie austin is because of this

Is he on X Factor now?

I'd imagine most clubs dont rely on the papers for advice on potential signings

My feeling is that Austin will be with us at least until the end of season...maybe into next...money talks wages wise but Austin loves it here and lets be honest off field we are gearing up for the Championship...if we get there this season i feel he will be here fairly long term...as for Brighton they are in cloud cuckoo land.....i would even say they still have work to do to go up...in fact on the last three games into account they are begining to struggle.
As for Cox/Austin then Austin is the more clinical in my view and his hold up play is outstanding....lets remember he has been here a year and spent a month out......Cox was brilliant at sniffing out goals from anyware...them are the goals that got him noticed.

If he is still here next season with us in League 1 I would be amazed, I think we will hang on to him in January but its only a matter of time before he goes. Those who think we will/should get at least £3 million for him - deluded.

All speculation any price mentioned. The only fact is that 6 months and 20 goals ago AF said he wouldn't get out bed to respond to a 1 million offer.

He is, but his parents now live in Poole and go to a hell of a lot of his games

For me, Charlie is the better finnisher. I also enjoy watching him more because of his desire to score. Its that mental strength as well, I think Cox's form was more patchy.

But yes Cox was a very talented player. Probably technically the most talented player weve had at Swindon for 15+ years.

I quite like that.

When we sell him to the bummers im going to buy it

One more thing, the main reason I like Austin better than Coxy, is that when Austin scores its 'for real' a genuine emotion. So many times Cox would score a great goal and do a stupid dance, some continuation from a boozy night out. When Austin scores you can see he's in it for the club and the fans as well as himself.

Austin is at the same sort of stage Cox was at with us a couple of years ago. From the outside looking in, I would say Austin is a far more positive influence on the rest of the team. Cox was in far too much of a comfort zone at Swindon, he didnt have to try particularly hard. I often wondered if other players were copying him who didnt have his talent and really did need to graft.

I can't think of many Swindon players (past & present) who have a higher work rate than Charlie. He never stops chasing for 90 mins.

This is such a load of cobblers it's unbelievable. Cox played in a much worse side and tried his nuts off. You're having a pop at him about how he celebrated his goals, for fucks sake!

Goal celebrations have always been important to me.

Splitting hairs, but I didnt say he didnt try, just that it was obvious he didnt have to, so much better than everyone else in that team. The morale around the club hit absolute rock bottom when Cox was there, of course that wasnt his fault, but it was the worst morale I have ever ever seen in a Swindon team and there were multiple reasons for it. Whereas with Austin I think you can see him almost inspiring other players.

They could at least get his first name right!

The fact  that the who was better scenario divides such a split on who was better shows there really isnt much difference between them.

Cox was the more talented player, I'd rather buy Austin if I was a Manager.

You cannot put a big enough price tag on his penalty area play, it's not something that can be taught in training to any great degree wheras you can improve general technique (and he seems a more rounded player so far this season).

I think Cox will struggle against better quality players, where he can be marshalled and marked out of a game for long periods.  Austin looks to me like he would still put away that half chance he gets once a game, something that means he is dangerous even when he is not the best player on the pitch and even when he's been quiet all game.

It's a lazy comparison, but Austin can be "the next Kevin Phillips" in my view: if he gets a chance, I'd back him to score it 9 times from 10, and plenty of players have built a career on that and little else. Yes, I'm looking at you Mr. Inzaghi.

You can indeed argue the toss about who is the better player, the more valuable player etc but for me, Spencer White and I suspect thousands more,  the way and the genuineness with which Charlie celebrates his goals is part of what does make him a special Town player.

Coxy was a true professional, always gave his estimable best in a pretty shit team and kept us up but he was a Reading player with Premiership ambitions who took a step backwards hoping to take two steps forward and in the process did himself and also Town a power of good.

Charlie however didn't take a step backwards to come here - he took several steps upwards and risked failure, he is a local lad not a bummer, scummer or biscuitman non-entity, he is living the dream right now here at STFC and has been thrilled to play for his local team in League One - from his sub's appearance in front of 25k at Carrow Road, to scoring in the first minutes of his full debut at Carlisle, to scoring at Elland Road, St Mary's you name it and to being gutted, like us,  more than just professionally with his famous Wembley bobble miss.

Charlie therefore feels like he is ours, a potential Town legend who could take us on to greatness because he is quality and he IS Town.   Charlie embodies the fantasy most of us have had and may still have of scoring our way to glory but only in a Town shirt.  It is fantasy of course.  It is probably unfair on the Don but Charlie is the first player for me to even echo the feeling of having a youthful Town genius who enjoyed that status for what it was and not for where it might take him beyond Town.  Obviously that perspective is now moving on but hey, couldn't we just get promotion this year and go on to better things?  That's still my rather unreasonable dream.

Fucking good post, Redrag.

Whatever happened to those rumors that Stoke where ready to pounce for a cool £3mil and would then loan him back to us?

As for which player is better, I'd take either one of them sharpish.

It would appear that they were indeed as confirmed by yourself...a rumour. Obviously an unfounded rumour too.

Charlie for me reminds myself very much, and I have said it before a few times, of the great goalscorer Ian Rush.

He can lead the line well, has deceptive pace over short areas, can win the ball in the air and bring others into play, he can hold the ball up well but most important, a natural goalscorer.

Charlie knows exactly where the back of the net is and will hit the target many more times than he doesn't.

And as we all know...Ian Rush went on to be one of the leading goalscorers ever in English football history and I see no reason why Charlie cannot do the same.

cox has hit his heights and i can't see him bettering what he's done.austin could improve further so who knows ow his career will develop.
he has that natural ability of finding the net.that could get him along way....

For all this talk of Cox being the better player, there weren't many clubs chasing his signature when it came down to it.

Chances are there will be quite a few clubs lining up for Austin in January.

^

'there weren't many clubs chasing his signature when it came down to it'

Based on what? The rumour mill in The Sun?

For all we know there could have been a ton of clubs in for Cox.

 Austin will be sold, perhaps not in Jan, but almost certainly in the summer, if he's still doing some business.  It's how modern football is.

When Charlie talks about the team in interviews, he says he plays for "The Town" (not "Swindon"), and kisses his badge and jumps into the fans etc when he scores.

Combine that with 6 from 7 games and what more can you ask? He's second top scorer in the league and was out for a month ffs! He's a genuine talent who's still developing.

He'll go, hopefully with us, but I wouldn't begrudge him going without us. At the moment we should keep our fingers crossed that he continues to do well, and if he gets in the England U21 squad that can only push his £££ tag up further for us!  :hmmm:

If this poor run of forum continues into January, crowds dwindling and interest in the season evaporating, I can see Charlie off in January. It would be the right thing for the player to move on and cash much needed to pay off for the short fall in attendances and merchandise.

Probably bullshit..

http://www.hof.org.uk/showthread.php?t=14806

Surely in that position the loss of Charlie's goals without an adequate replacement would be a recipe for relagation, which would dent the coffers more than reduced attendances and merchandise?

I can't see the club letting Charlie go until the summer whether he wants out or not, particularly when we're looking over our shoulders at the drop zone. He'll be worth as much, if not more by the end of the season if he keeps tucking them away.

who makes this shit up ?

http://www.hof.org.uk/showthread.php?t=14764

wtf is that guy on ?

Coke, probably.

Haha. So Charlie has failed a drugs test yet has been allowed to play, and the FL has taken no action even though half of Swindon (apparantly) knows about it?? Brilliant

Sometimes the general intelligence of some Millwall fans leaves me stunned.

WTF do they think they will achieve by spreading mindless and totally pathetic rumours around?

Maybe Stuwall saw "Austin, Charlie" written down and just presumed it was an invoice?

Edit: Deleted. After realising what I did, I apoligize, please remove the quotes.

Better get your suit pressed...

I'm not even suggesting he doesn't do drugs - I haven't a clue. What I didn't get was how this "news" is supposed to be widespread knowledge in Swindon and how he's (supposedly) been caught yet is still being allowed to play. The guy's clearly talking crap.

:nod:

What 21 year old hasn't in this day and age?

Rumours like this have been circulating for a while.  I remember someone on here saying something similar at the back end of last season.  

Fundamently though if a player had failed a drugs test he would not still be playing professional football end of story!

The very same rumour went around about Alan Hutton at Spurs... he was alleged to have a massive coke habit, so was axed from playing so that he could avoid all drug testing and didn't come back until he was 'clean'... obviously all a load of balls.

I only know a few people who know about it. The bloke is obviously is talking crap, as its not widespread and if he'd been caught then why is there not an "Adver Exclusive"  ::)

And I never said he was using.

And Sutton, i may be being dumb, but why?

Oh to clear things up, I just re-read my comment and i'm not into coke or anything, if that is how it sounded to anyone!

You sir are a grade A prick putting shit like that on the net, if he was doing drugs he'd be immediately banned from playing as Adrian Mutu was. I suggest get lawyered up as if you put accusations like that in the public domain then you are going to find yourself in serious trouble. We don't needs pricks spouting off rumour as fact concerning our star player when we are trying our utmost just to keep hold of him..............in summary Fuck Off yeah!

And how do you know this?

Well done for putting it in the public domain anyhow

I'm not gonna say how.. but after realising what I did, i have edited the post. please remove the quotes of it.

Apoligies.

Tough shit. You're going down 'Town"Loyal"'

Hate me all you want, just delete the quotes.. please.

im not deleting mine  :bye:

i'm not worried about me. I was thinking this is a public forum and talk of a star player.

Should've thought of that before others told you to really.

maybe you should have thought about that before you posted it.

I know it was me being stupid.

What's your problem with him? You came on here a couple of months ago spouting shit about how if he was cheating on his girlfriend or some bollocks.

Are you Jon STFC Sutcliffe?   :nod:

Surely you're used to that by now.

Just happened upon this whilst searching for a Charlie Austin picture for my Avatar

http://www.skysports.com/football/player/0,19754,11758_438082,00.html

Player rating 5.0 - 5: Below Average - Some faults, out-of-touch.

Ha ha, whatever!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8KR-n2fBQ&feature=related

Think you'll find 5 is the default rating and Sky haven't been arsed so far to rate any of our players as they're all on 5.

Yes. Even Alan O'Brien.

Didn't think to check anyone else.  What a completely pointless and misleading feature.

Slightly less pointless and misleading than your post about it though.

Stupid? That's a fucking understatement. Town fan my fucking arse.  >:(

Why anyone would want to go around spreading destructive rumours about one of our players, is beyond me. Is it good for your ego or something? Nice to know you're adding weight to something that has no positive. There's simply nothing to gain for anyone, it's a lose/lose situation. I'm disgusted with fans who, I can only assume love the whole celeb bashing, heat magazine reading culture we live in, add weight to these pathetic rumours about people we are supposed to be behind. We're fans. Apparently.  :crash:

To be (slightly) fair, he did say "has been" i.e. past tense.

He said Charlie was a has-been? What a wanker.

I'm starting to wonder if Charlie is a good a player as we think he is. He didn't even have the ambition to try and sort out a loan move to a bigger club with a move sorted out.

Surely we want players with a bit of ambition?

I don't understand fans who start rumours about their own team's players. What good does it do?

Stupid isn't it.

I heard that Prutton is a really sound down to earth bloke who's happy to buy you a pint and have a chat.

Yeah, but lets not let that get in the way of some excessive drama. :)

this is fact.

i had charlies cock in my mouth on tuesday, he spurted jizz right to the back of my throat, im not gay and had to go to my happy place to get through it. was traumatic

fucking part timers, true swindon fans would be happy to have their gag reflex battered by charlies ram

Fact? Charlie has never kept chickens in his life! As for jizz ... didn't have you down as a birder -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizz_(birding)

How dare you!

Has he scored for Burnley yet?

Try looking on the internet...

Why? I thought you were the font of dull info DV

You thought wrong.

Wiki says non

I think he's injured, DV still a twat.

I think I added myself to DV's ignore list the other day, so he will no longer get to check in on my brilliant whit and humour. Serves him right for being such an arrogant cunt.

You aren't on my ignore list.

He has no goals and from what i read he hasn't even put in a decent performance for them, One week he only got rated a 5 but he is now out for the season as i read they loaned in Aston Villa's Nathan Delfouneso to cover his absence.

Dislocated shoulder again - due for an op followed by rehab...

Think he had op last wednesday,was booked in anyway

 :D :D :D :D

Are the rumours accurate that he hasn't endeared himself to his new teammates?

Yeah, he fucked jay rodriguez and chris iwelumos mrs'

Then he got clarke carlisle to fall off the wagon.

Finally he got eddie howe a present of snow

I work with a Burnley season ticket holder.  Of the small glimpses he's seen, his assessment was:

"Too slow, too lazy and far too shite".  Seems harsh.

Yep,most Burnley fans are fat lazy and slow as fuck....judge him when he has played a season

Idiots.....and where are these rumours coming from?

I watched him on his debut vs Norwich which was his only start I think. He struggled with pace and missed a chance he would usually score, but come on he only played 60 mins and it's only 1 game! 

But yeah anyway Burnley fans were slagging him off to me on the train and I was havin a go, bunch of unworthy cunts.

I heard some rumours about his time down here (nothing that hasn't been said before). It was volunteered by someone who claimed to be Charlie's other half's friend. Don't want to give their identity away, but it was most bizarre and came about as I was in the queue to purchase something with my son. He had his old Austin shirt on.

With friends like that, its no wonder rumours get around!  Didn't they know. Loose lips sink ships.

In a funny sort of way I think the worst thing that could happen for him is for them to get promoted this year. Next season if they are in the premiership and he hasnt played games for them he is straight out on loan.

Although to be honest I am not that bothered....

As for lasses from Burnley - I fear for him.

Bump.

On this week's Soccer AM by all accounts.

About what, do you know?

Details on here. Looks like he's on with a Pox fan...

http://www.socceram.com/story/0,21644,13873_6889580,00.html

This is the internet.

I bet his name was Liam.

hahaha let me guess he happens to work at Royal Mail to!

You can guarantee that the Pox fan will get some well rehearsed pops in about how crap we are and how they're going to stuff us next season.  He'll then congratulate Austin for leaving us, saying he used to hate him but he's alright now he's playing for Burnley.  Austin will shrug and not give a shit about any of it.

All in all, a good reason to miss the programme.

If Austin knocks him out I might like him again.

I hope he sniffs a load of coke before he goes on the telly as he just mumbles on the telly when I've seen him before

He's not the brightest.