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advice please as i'm raging at the moment and dont know how to play it.

my 10 year old daughter was outside my house playing with other kids when a car pulled up and a woman threatend to let her daughter hit mine as she had called her names previously,allegedly.
this was just before i was walking out the door to walk the dog,and i saw my daughter was distressed as i did.
i asked what was wrong and she was shocked as she doesn't knwo the girl or the family,aprart from they live round the corner and drive by.

i immediately walked to the house and knocked on the door to see what the hell was going on,only to be met with an aggressive twat and his gobby chavvy mrs.
i asked why my daughter was threatend and why,only to be met with aggression and insults.

i asked when the incident happend, to be told "on the way back from school"
i argued my daughter walks home with her mum every day so when?
the teen daughter is then presented to me and i asked what occured to be met with nothing.note at this point the dad is telling me to fuck off etc,etc,
i asked if other kids were there and she said yes.so i said how do you know it was my daughter.pause and then because i saw her.

now i aint one of those dads who thinks their kid is an angel when they aint but this aint fucking right.
my kid is fucking upset at this point and i'm being insulted by the mum and dad who are chavvy and aggrresive.
i say i'm not here for trouble and if my daughter has done wrong i'd deal with her etc.

matey starts threatening me, and being the person i am i dont back down.i tell him if he touches my child i will deal with him.he gives it the big un but brings nothing when i say i aint scared.my daughter is screaming telling me to leave it so i walk away.

now i know my kid and she has countless school reports saying how caring and kind she is.she had loads of small kids calling for her every day and i have never ever had a problem with her.

the people i met today were fucking nasty peices of work.the kid is a teenager for a start
and my daughter wouldn't dream of doing what she was accused of.
i just dont know how to play this as they have to pass our house every time they leave the street.
they aint lived there for long either and i dont know if they rent or own the place.


i've just typed and posted so sorry if it confuses.
just want honest decent advice on what to do please,as i dont think i should have to keep my daughter in,in case one of those cretins abuses or attacks her.

Shit through their letterbox.

i think its time the tef pressure group reered its ugly head, maybe ok it with barry but names and addresses and we can order/pizzas/currys/skips/strippers etc.

could be a fun old saturday night for fuck face and his slag of a wife.

the clue was in honest decent advice.
any shit that comes to them will obviously have come from me.

The kid has quite clearly lied, the pig ignorant parents are too thick to see this though - hence being met with agression. I mean that is usually the solution when a chav is confused. It's like some kind of reverse psychology bullying, trying to get your kid into trouble when she's done nothing wrong. Dunno what you can do though tbh... Other than give us their address, of course.

I don't know what happened, neither do you. (Although I am sure your trust your daughters word).

But I think you hit the nail on the head when you said the word 'chav' in regards to their reaction.

Try to chill (obviously). Have a proper chat with your girl when you are cool. Perhaps there is more to it than she is telling you, she is only 10 after all and might be a tad scared.

You are dealing with adults who threaten 10 year old kids, they are hardly the smartest bunch.

i told my daughter that this is serious and she has to tell me the truth.
she doesn't even know the girl and the incident never happend(not even with the kids she plays out with at any time she can remember)
their kid is either lying(which i suspect is the facts here)or has my daughter mixed up with someone else)

people with that attitude aint bullied.they dish it out.
i wouldn't be surprised if they made the whole thing up and were just being horrible cunts.

what i wont accept though is intimidation.i aint some weak bastard that takes shit like this.the fella offered fuck all when it was obvious i would not take it from him.

i aint scared or worried about them morons,but i can't always be there to protect my family as i'm a trucker(as you all know)

arriba I think you've got to try and be cool - easier said than done. I think you need to talk to your kid - you'll know if she's telling porkies or not. If you're happy she isn't lying then you need to reassure her and tell her you believe her etc etc. The chavs know they can't fuck you around so may well back down and it all dies down from here. Its their call now, isn't it? They can back off and it all goes away or they can do something they will regret. I'm sure you can handle yourself but I'm sure there are many decent ( and indecent ) minded people on here who would have no qualms in making life difficult ( non violent obviously ) for those who would take it out on 10 year olds.   

i believe my daughter 100%.her reaction and distress told me everything.

like i said they dont scare me.my mrs is a tough cookie too.but my girl aint.
i am worried about her,and she is my only concern here.
if i'm in london,manchester,etc i aint there to protect her.

those cowardly cunts aint got enough to take me but would scratch my car,hurt my kid if i aint there etc.

Drop it for tonight.

Have a chat with your girl tomorrow and take it from there. You aren't going to achieve anything when you are this wound up and you could even end up making it worse.

Probably a case of mistaken identity then


Exactly. There is no reasoning with them, waste of breath trying. Though clearly a word was in order given what they did.

I guess its a case of wait and see? Hopefully your little word will mean the end of it.

If not I guess the legal options are getting the police to have a word and informing the school of the situation. The other option is have it out with them. Neither seem too appealing.

I dread this happening to mine. I am a complete pussy at things like this.

Batch, if it was in defence of your kids, believe me you wouldn't be a complete pussy. You might be 99.9999% of the time but you'll have hidden reserves when you need them. Hopefully, you'll never need to.

You mention that they haven't lived there long and you're not sure if they're renting.  If anything further happens from this, might be worth trying to find out (not sure how though?) and if so, whether it's private or housing association and then complaining to the relevant person/company.

My friend experienced a similar situation where her son was getting continually intimidated by a 'chavvy' family in her street to the point that he was frightened to leave the house.  They were renting and in the end the owner of the house terminated their rent due to the problems they were causing and they were literally moved on over night.

Come round my house again and ill fucking have ya'.

On a serious note, bring it up again tomorrow and tell her again to explain herself. Carry on letting her out to play but make sure shes in eye sight of your house. If they even stop the car near her grab her get her in and ring the police.

the kid doesn't go to the school my girl does.we have no idea what school she goes to .she's older and my kid rides on her bike with the mrs home from her last year in primary school.

i wish i asked for the time and location of the incident as it would have stopped it there and then.being met with abuse and threats meant i went on the attack though.

i'm chilled now,and not bothered.my kid gets hurt and they will fucking get it. they know that.
i want to prove(if their scummy kid did get abuse)that my girl wasn't involved.that would end it for good.
until then they will hate me, and i will be waiting as i will get my vengence no fucking doubt about that.i moved here for peace amd a better life.those cunts have riled me big fucking time

Do you get on with your neighbours?

Do your neighbours know them?

Do your neighbours have kids?

they live as far round the corner as it goes.
my kid gets on great with everyone round here.
the kids are always knocking for her.we love it here.
this is right out of the blue.
the problem i have is that they have to pass my house to exit the street,so we will cross paths.

Are you in or around Swindon, arriba?

Grow a pair and need not ask a forum of other men how to deal with the obvious. Just monitor the situation an if anymore happen then lamp the cunt.

Prick

His last three posts are something special, racism, telling someone to kill themselves and being a giant twunt.

Yeah. That Arriba's always been a bit of a cock.

Hate to say it arriba, but think that you have to deal with it in a slightly different way. You might think about ways to diffuse the situation. The only way that I can see is by offering them a way out.

elaborate please.
i dont get what you say dude.

i'm going to call the police on monday.at least my complaint is then on record.
i dont want to do this but i have to put my family first.i can't always be around.

i think that he is trying to say somehow that you should apologise. It gives them them the opportunity to accept the apology and back down without feeling bad/defeated.

In this part of the world it is known as 'giving face'

it is something that I personally disagree with. I could start a thread about 'face'

Dont back down arriba....but keep all the aggro away from your daughter.
Sometimes you are showing more bollox by saying fuck it i am not letting these idiots ruin things for my daughter.
Let them know that as far as your concerned that if this abuse happens again towards your girl then you wont let it lie.
Sorry to hear your having this hassle.

i apologise when i need to,not when i've done fuck all wrong.the cunt's lucky i didn't deck him on his door step

Burn them

you'd only save them you cunt you.

Nah, i aint in swindon

fuck it.i'm off with me swan vestas then

yep.

Tie Tan's down to a bus stop by his lips, and then burn them.

I'd go with the diffuse the situation approach. If it escalates then there's a good chance it will only make things worse for your kid and as you've said you can't be there all the time. Not sure going to the police or the school or whoever at this point will help, might be making something out of nothing. It's easy to forget that kids get in to arguments and disputes with each other all the time, and that they normally sort them out themselves quickly and the parents getting involved only make things worse.

Maybe go back round their house when you're calm, say if your kid does anything they're to tell you immediately so you can deal with it. But if they try taking things in to their own hands they'll have you to do deal with. Don't get in to an argument and don't take your kid with you. Maybe apologise for your reaction previously as well, even if you didn't do anything wrong it will help keep things calm. Make sure your kid isn't worried as well and if she is then make sure she stays near your house and you take her to and from school until things are better.

I'm no expert so take my advice with a pinch of salt, but getting in to a punch up over it isn't going to solve anything.

i tried to difuse it from the outset.
my daughter doesn't know the girl.
it's gone way beyond the discussion stage.
we parted on fuck off status

Sorry for the delay....

No, I don't mean apologise. What I mean is look for common ground. Change the focus of the argument.....Maybe talk or write to them acknowleging that you both got off on the wrong foot. Highlight the fact that the thing that you both want is to make sure that neither of your daughters are intimidated. Furthermore, acknowledge that you both want to find out what happened. Tell them that you would be angry if your daughter were involved in something like this (As you would be if she was, but you know she isn't - You don't need to say that) and reassure them that you would take action if she were (Again, from what you have said to us, this is true. However, you wont need to do anything because you already know she didnt do anything). Ask them for clarification of what they think happened, when it happened, where and in front of who.

Once they have told you, give it a little while then tell them what your daughter has told you. If there are others who can corroborate that you daughter was elsewhere at the time, highlight this to the chavs. Then suggest there might have been a case of mistaken identity.

OK, told you you wouldn't like it. But you are diffusing the situation by giving them a way out. Doesn't matter if they deserve it, and it doesn't matter that you don't like it. The thing you are trying to do is to avoid conflict that might affect your daughter.

Call the police to report it and make it clear to the old bill that youdon't want anybody to go out to them yet. Then if it happens again get straight on the phone to the old bill and make official. Then when the dad is out by himself do him. I will give you an alibi as would half the people on here.

Chances are this family have had similar incidents with pretty much every person they come across.

If they're as aggressive as you suggest, they've probably had set-tos with half the street, the newsagent and the milkman. They'll have ASBO's, statemented kids, the full menu of chav battle-honours.

This is a one-off for you, and you're raging (rightly) but this is how they live their lives. You're not going to be friends. Don't back down, be respectful in public, but don't apologise. Don't forget, but log it and let yourself calm down. Talk to your neighbours, see if they've had similar experiences. If there's another incident, go to the police. Console yourself with the fact that these people are losers with shit lives and the less they overlap with yours the better.

imbecilic cunt

Arriba, chill tonight dude and look at it again in the cold light of tomorrow.

I would love to give advice on this but it wont be the common sense approach so I will keep my counsel.

Good luck

i tried to be as open as possible from the start.3 times matey said dont come knocking on my door blahh blah blahh, starting trouble, to be told i am not looking for trouble from myself.i asked to know what happend.
after that i lost patience.
i did think of wriitng a letter,but dont want them to know my address(i dont know if they know my exact address)  
and to be honest dont think it will wash with their stupid, blinkered minds anyway.    
after thought, i cannot see how it cannot be anything but a case of mistaken identity.if i knock on their door it will only lead to one thing.(i will end up in court)
they think it was my daughter(their kid is lying-mistaken) and they are backing their kid.
the fact matey is a pussy who can't back up his threats, and his mrs is rough as fuck with a mouth as big as as her pussy means fuck all.
both could hurt my daughter if i'm not there.  

although mudfish is a troll.when i was 20 i would have dealt with it that way.
infact i would have got a mob up together,and the house wouldn't be there anymore.
i could still get people involved if need be,but i am a man who does it alone nowadays.
i aint scared and am more than enough on my own.
they know that.i took it too them big fucking time.

That's all that's needed

now i'm calm i know that fred .i lost it earlier.my mrs and kids were like water off a ducks back.
my lad is so laid back he's almost horizontal.good thing when you are a promising footballer(watch this space)

How old is he mate? Cant have long to go if he played in the milk cup?

just turned 14.
has had loads of injuries but has found his form this season and is playing out of his skin.really pleased how it's going at the moment(touches wood)
hopefully will play in the milk cup again next year.

Nice one

Thought he was older than that for some reason

FWIW, sounds like you've got the parents squared, arriba. As in they won't try anything direct with you, but I'd be concerned about if it does escalate any more that the kid takes it out on your daughter in some way. That can be really difficult to deal with. I'd let chavvy dogs lie in terms of direct contact cos anything else you do right now will only inflame it but keep a careful eye. And from the sounds of it, sounds like you're 100% right to trust your daughter's version of events - tell her that, so she knows she's not in trouble and she can come to you if there's any further issues even if it's just name calling. Otherwise, it could escalate between the kids without you even knowing about it if your daughter's worried she may get in trouble over it. Like Batch said, not looking forward to when this starts happening with my kids, which, sadly, it probably will.

Oh, and Mudflaps is a twat

Dont know why but this thread reminds me of that judo guy kicking the shit out of the Chav!       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k1gu-OAgV4&feature=youtube_gdata_player                                                       hope it all sorts out for you bud

Every time I see that video, my day is brightened.

called the police this morning and had a visit this afternoon.
other party denied any wrong doing and said i was the aggressor(fully expected them to lie)but have said they dont want any hassle so that should be that.
the thing that pisses me off is that they didn't even give a day when the name calling was meant to have taken place.
just a day last week.
they lied,and at least they know the old bill know the score and that i called them.

They may well be so out of it that they don't actually have a clue. They're obviously fuckwits who have been used to getting their own way. Let it all die down.....................and then give the guy a shoeing in a few weeks just as a reminder to leave your family alone.

Wow. What a left hand!

I like the way the bloke shuts the gate at the end, as if to say thats the end of that.