Title: Company start up Post by: jimbob on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:14:49 Me and a mate are starting up a business. However, cos its gonna be a 'grower' (we hope), we aint likely to generate any revenue for at least 6-12 months and the initial overheads are minimal (website and time). We're both carrying on with our day to day jobs.
Advice I'm after is, how shall we set up? e.g. plc/ltd/?? we want to keep accountancy fees to a minimum given that turnover wont be great early doors. Any advice welcome ;D Cheers Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:26:20 Depends on individual circumstances, as each has different tax treatment, but a partnership (LLP) would probably be the best option for a start up.
It'd be worth taking some legal advice. Some banks have business account managers that will be able to help too. Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:27:43 Some info here: http://businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/layer?r.s=b&r.l1=1073858805&r.lc=en&r.l3=1073865702&r.l2=1085161962&topicId=1085161962
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: jimbob on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:32:06 cheers Sam...I have a look at that
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:36:06 as said all depends on business, if you go ltd. you are not personally liable.
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:37:21 as said all depends on business, if you go ltd. you are not personally liable. Not unless you trade knowingly insolventTitle: Re: Company start up Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:38:22 well yes but i aint no diamandis
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: ghanimah on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 12:39:14 well yes but i aint no diamandis ;)Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 13:03:10 Set up a limited company and then make it dormant untill you start trading
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: iffy on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 13:54:11 You don't need to set up a company until you're earning revenue. I'm currently working on a couple of projects that might become companies, and the partners have agreed on things like equity share etc, but haven't actually formed the company. Then get your accountant to buy an off-the-shelf number when you know it's worthwhile.
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 18:37:44 If you think you're going to make plenty of profits then a company would probably be more tax efficient. But as said, there's no hurry and you can incorporate a partnership later down the line.
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 18:58:05 Sorry, but in my experience partnerships are a sinking ship before they have been launched. I have done work for hundreds of organisations and only a few were successful, enduring partnerships.
Unless you are 3,000% certain of this mate I would incorporate as soon as possible. Then you have a consistent legal right to (say) half of the capital and the business should things go sour. Sure, you can draw up a partnership contract but without the company framework it is always going to be a personal working relationship. Companies seem to focus the mind on being an equally responsible director rather than just a mate. Sole trader is fine btw. Title: Re: Company start up Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 19:18:45 Is this a "business start up" or "two blokes that drunk too much and came up with an idea for a business"?
If it's the former then a limited company would probably make more sense, as the extra admin and costs would be worth it. If it's the latter you'll probably get away with an agreement on the back of a beer mat and running it on the quiet. You really need to be careful, plenty of stories of a good business idea turning in to a long lasting nightmare. Title: Re: Company start up Post by: leefer on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 19:32:04 Me and a mate are starting up a business. However, cos its gonna be a 'grower' (we hope), we aint likely to generate any revenue for at least 6-12 months and the initial overheads are minimal (website and time). We're both carrying on with our day to day jobs. Advice I'm after is, how shall we set up? e.g. plc/ltd/?? we want to keep accountancy fees to a minimum given that turnover wont be great early doors. Any advice welcome ;D Cheers Well if your anything like your old man you will be fine :clap: Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 19:33:03 Sorry, but in my experience partnerships are a sinking ship before they have been launched. I have done work for hundreds of organisations and only a few were successful, enduring partnerships. Unless you are 3,000% certain of this mate I would incorporate as soon as possible. Then you have a consistent legal right to (say) half of the capital and the business should things go sour. Sure, you can draw up a partnership contract but without the company framework it is always going to be a personal working relationship. Companies seem to focus the mind on being an equally responsible director rather than just a mate. Sole trader is fine btw. well in my experience partnerships are fucking great, i have and am still currently involved in 2 partnerships. 14 years and going strong Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 19:35:28 well in my experience partnerships are fucking great, i have and am still currently involved in 2 partnerships. 14 years and going strong I didn't say that they never work Iain. Successful ones are few and far between and if you are in one of those then fair play and good for you. I was relaying my (forgive me, but obviously wider than your) experience, which is what the bloke was asking about. Title: Re: Company start up Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 19:42:25 hahahaha youre a twat :)
Title: Re: Company start up Post by: otanswell on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 19:53:07 Set up a limited company and then make it dormant untill you start trading this is what i did. i formed my company on the internet for 26 quid, it took an hour |