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No comment on here but a cracking day out, even if we lost. Wright ran out of partners unfortunately.

It got bloody chilly in the evening.

Shit picture because of cold hand shake but you get the idea. Awesome floodlit match.

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Oh bollocks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/pakistan/9011427.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/pakistan/9011427.stm)

I thought it was a good match tbh  ::)

I assumed it had been fixed, insofar as the Pakistan players appeared to be trying.

Someone should have a look at Lancs v Notts as well.

Notts asked to get a game out of it (which meant they could either win or lose without getting bonus points because the first innings would be forfeited by one side) lancs told them they didnt want to.

Either way,setting up games for a result has been attempted by many teams in this years county championship - including the notts lancs match at trent bridge a few weeks ago.

Agreed Reg....the last three wickets Notts took looked ever so easy to me...........but that is the problem now,going to be lots of doubts whenever something unlikely happens which is sad for cricket.

In other words match fixing.....

Boo fucking hoo, somerset played well in three comps and got beaten at the final hurdle each time. Yeah its unlucky, ifs and buts all round.

And on match-fixing - I'm sure you'd be able to delve the depths of your endless encyclopedic knowledge to come up with more "match fixing" instances that are much more skewed than that during Notts Lancs at Trent Bridge - say from the 1940's-1980s.

Maybe next year eh?!

 
Bad night cib?......Reg makes a good point,its a forum bud...................get over yourself.
Fact is cricket has lost a lot of credability..............the fact that lords was half empty for a major final kind of bears witness to that...along with the fact that ticket prices are shocking at Lords.
Two captains trying to come up with a result is wrong.............. not fair on other teams in the same lge ....as Reg says you can call it what you like...but its fixing a match......which to be frank just isn't cricket :D :D

It's not fixing it though is it? If anything i'd have thought this sort of behaviour should be encouraged. If done properly you see exciting games instead of turgid draws

My mind goes back to an infamous Benson and Hedges qualifier at New Road in 79 between Somerset and Worcs....Brain Rose Somerset captain, knowing that as long as Somerset lost but with no harm done to run rate would qualify for the KO stages, won the toss decided to bat and declared after 1 over of the 55...the score 1-0.  Worcs duly scored the 2 needed without loss.

Not against the rules, but the spirit of the game, and Somerset were duly kicked out. Rose was unrepentant, apparently Botham came up with the idea.

How is it match fixing? Agreeing to forfeit innings or force results has been part of county cricket for donkeys, and is different to fixing the result of a match. It's not like Lancashire went and thought fuck this and served trash and lost purposely. If Notts were to have been bowled out chasing 260 (they nearly were after winning with 7 down on a pitch showing variable bounce) I'm sure people (Somerset) wouldn't be complaining- yet congratulating Lancashire on setting a competitive total and winning. Lancashire were equals in deciding a total - they needed the points too. They also put up a fair/decent/strong fight against them this week - true to the spirit of the game.

Somerset had the opportunity to get a result against Durham especially seeing their position after their first innings, whilst Yorkshire did against Kent - yet its down to the results over the season. Notts were shit against Durham and Yorkshire towards the end of the season, equally Somerset were poor at the beginning.

If you think it's (setting up chases/"match-fixing") a problem speak to the ECB - they reduced the points for a draw, encouraging more attacking cricket and forcing results - especially in tight games.

As for the crowd at Lords yesterday - is this the latest domestic cup final in county cricket? I don't know but its late September, cold and England are still playing against Pakistan.

Well it was probably the latest finish, finishing around 9pm.

The old NatWest Knock out competition used to be in September.

 
Agreed Dave about turgid draws....but it is fixing,both captains coming together and fixing a finish for a team to win when really the result should be a draw!
Like Vidic and Gerrard saying after 80 mins and the score 0-0......well chaps a point a piece is no fucking good....lets shake hands and conjure up a winning result....lets play rush goalie :D :D

Mickey Mouse rules only brought in when TV starting paying the bills.

I don't see how Pakistan could fix this match if no England players were involved? I guess if we're talking about spot fixing then that would make sense e.g. fours scored at certain times etc. If this is true and spot fixing took place then surely Pakistan simply can't continue to play cricket for much longer?

 Probably be better for them to keep going otherwise their players will just pitch up as Brits, Saffas, Banglas or Afghans and corrupt the game that way.

 Imran Tahir...was supposed to be playing for South Africa v England last winter, until he mysteriously wasn't.

Those proved guilty should be banned from playing for life though so it won't be an issue.

Tip of the iceberg though ISOB....Pakistani society is riddled by corruption from top to bottom, cricket just reflects that...you can't just ban cricket in Pakistan, so there will always be Pakistani cricketers, who will find ways of playing internationally.  Much like when SA were banned, their boys pitched up elsewhere....the Greigs, Smiths, Lamb for England.  Kepler Wessels for The Convicts.

I'm not here to insult but are you missing the point being made? It's not football where the difference between a win and a loss is 3 points, but cricket where the difference is up to 20 points.

It's not like the two captains decide on a winner, it's that they decide that it would be better for the game if a positive result was achieved rather than 2/3 bad days of weather deciding that each team only get 4 points each, even though each would get more if a full game was played.

On the 3rd ODI front i think the bloke in the crowd with the "let paki's win for a change pleese*" sign fixed it. and made the sign to be ironic.

(*that's what it said. not being racist but if he can write it on a bit of cardboard then so can i)

anyone watching the cricket, quite tense :D

Think it's all over now Morgan's gone

yes :crash:

It is now

If both teams were playing to lose does that mean that we won?

Same as Friday really. Batting under floodlights looks to be a right mare. So does winning the toss and batting first almost guarantee victory? Anybody got any stats?

In most cases it does. I remember a game way back when that we chased down over 300 under lights in Pakistan funnily enough. A classic innings from Freddy won it for us. But victories under lights for the side batting 2nd are rare.