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I can see England dropping points tonight.

And Argentina V Spain (ITV4 9.00) should be a decent game.

I don't think we'll either. I'm going to find a stream to watch it on (fucking Sky!!!!) but might end up watching that Spain game. Even though that will probably be a pants friendly game where players do their best to not get injured as opposed to entertain and try and win.

anyone got a stream for the eng game?

I didn't realise it was on SS2. Grrr. Fucking Murdoch, no football for me tonight.

http://www.iraqgoals.net/12694-switzerland-vs-england-.html

Surpriesed Lescott is starting.

http://www.iraqgoals.net/12694-switzerland-vs-england-.html for those of you who want a link.

Good partnership with Jagielka whilst at Everton so could be on to a winner.  Unless of course Lescott plays like his usual self...

1 - 0.  Rooney.

1-0 to Norway  :)

Walcott injured, Adam Johnson comes on.

Andorra score against Ireland. Hehe.

The media will be sucking his cock tomorrow then. No pun intended.

Johnson causing them all sorts of problems on the right. Defoe really should have had a couple by now.

http://www.kofss-stream.com/livescoreh.html (http://www.kofss-stream.com/livescoreh.html)

Decent stream there if you select the first Ustream link under the England game.

Scotland 0 Liechtenstein 1....

Surely not? :)

Are the England highlights on ITV4 after the Argentina/Spain game?

Swiss down to 10.

Oh yes it is !!!

40,000 Scots are not happy...

Well worked 2nd goal.  Adam Johnson.

Hahaha, Scotland are proper shit...

2-1 now....cracking finish as well.

Swiss scored. 2-1 now.

Norway beat Portgual, hurra!

Boooo. Scotland have equalised.

Bulgaria 0-1 Montenegro FT

Looks like Montenegro are England's main competition in this group so far.

Supposed to be the worst team as well.

SWP is shite.

3-1. Game over.

3-1.  Darren Bent.

Great win for Norway. Portugal with 1 point from 2 games now, could easily miss the cut.

Argentina 3 Spain 0 after 35 mins

Reina just slipped up.

I missed Bent's goal because my stream went off. Gayness. Oh well. An easy win in the end. The Swiss were barely a threat. Should cruise through this group now.

Expect a stupid amount of hype tomorrow...

Oh yes. There really is no need for him in the set-up... not with A. Johnson, Milner, Lennon, Walcott all able to play his position. I'd like to think that layoff for Bent was his last 'contribution' in International football.

I thought we saw the last of him 3 or 4 years ago.....sadly I was so wrong.

"2139: Here's a stat for you. The attendance at Hampden Park is 37,050 - which is bigger than the entire population of Liechtenstein. "

Scotland score winner in 97th minute....

Jammy cunts.

My thoughts exactly...But it says something that they're celebrating a win against Liechtenstein like they've got through to a major tournament.

It's nice to see a slightly different, refreshing team.
The absence of Lampard is a blessing as the midfield currently has more shape without him.

Milner and Johnson are fucking superb.
Joe Hart made a few silly errors tonight, but I like the idea of him being the regular 1st choice keeper.

The difference was though that Hart's silly mishaps didn't lead to any goals. And he kept composed throughout despite them.

Only downside tonight is milner getting suspended. Which will no doubt se Gerrard back out wide and lampard back in.

Good performance.

I would leave lampard out to keep gerrard in centre mid. He's one of our best players and its his best position. we look a better team with him there.

I didn't get to see any of the game tonight but it's good the new players doing so well. It shows you don't need the star players (and if anything are worse when they play) and that we are still developing talent in England, making a mockery of those who reckon youth development is fucked here.

Only problem of course is that Capello will drop them all once the star players are fit again. Which is bollocks.

Next time round then Lampard, Terry & Ferdinand are fit he will put them straight back in the team and mess with the formation that has done so well the last 2 games, you can't put Rooney in the hole and have Gerrard running the midfield and the wide players pushing high up the pitch if you have Lampard and the slowness of Terry & Ferdinand in the team - I think it has shown that Terry and in paticular Lampard are not mainstays of the team that Capello beleives.

Marvellous

i watched the end of the scotland match, actually felt for scotland, litchenstein were easily the dirtiest team i have seen in years, the ref had lost all control. they were hacking down scottish players and ref was doing fuck all, to my suspicious mind i would say ref had money on result.

I refuse to watch England at the min after that shit in the Summer, Glad to hear Milner and Johnson seem promising however I flipped between the Scotland and Ireland matches last night. With Ferdinand, Terry coming back, Crapello will be back to kissing the ass of his favourites and drop players who from most reports have managed to do their job well. Rio and Terry should be on the bench at best if we are to believe his "youth movement", which was clearly forced on him by the FA because the country wanted it and the FA couldnt afford to sack Crapello.

Personally I enjoyed watching the England game last night and was very impressed with the football that we played.  I am glad that we now seem to have our goalkeeper sorted in Joe Hart which seemed to be a major problem in the World Cup because quite frankly David James is past it.  It will also be very interesting to see if/how the likes of Ferdinand, Terry and Lampard will fit into the next England squad/team because over the past two games we have done very well.  The only change I would make is probably bring in Terry to play alongside Jagielka at the back.  Gerrard has played much better in his role without Lampard, breaking forward and leaving Barry to do the dirty work.  Adam Johnson looks a real handy player and I think James Milner owes everything to Andy King.

It was also very good to see a Devizes St George's flag at the ground (although it had obviously been tarred with 'Wolves' on it).  Oh, Jamie Redknapp is a complete and utter knobjockey.

Liechtenstein must be well fucked off. 1-0 up against a pile of shite who get the winner in the 7th minute of the 5 minutes added

I won't be happy about England football until we do well at Euro 2012. We did well in qualifying for the world cup then fucked it up at the tournament itself so tbh no matter how well we do in qualifying for the Euros it won't make up for what happened at the world cup.

So long as we qualify the only matches I really care about in these qualifying games are the ones against Wales as they're derbys and it's rare for us to play them, especially both home and away.

I wish we had a new manager.

Yeah but who

This really. Until we actually do well in Euro 2012 then I wont give a shit about English Football, as noted above we did great to qualify for the World Cup and fucked it up.

I see the Scotland fans were booing the Liechtenstein national anthem, which just happens to be 'God Save The Queen' :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8980064.stm

You always get that up here so just ignore it.  To say that the Tartan Army soon stopped laughing last night would be the understatement of the year.  I don't know what made me laugh more.  The degree of celebration after beating a country whose population is about the size of Penhill's or the manager talking about it as being a "great night". 

Agree with this except maybe the Andy King bit.

England played well, Capello picked the right team and formation (and against Bulgaria) so fair play to him. Hope he carries on with the same (more or less) team.

As for not giving a shit until we do well that's pretty crap really ! As with the Town I'll support England through thick and thin, even if it is almost always thin, and therefore give credit if and when it's due and not just wait until they finally win something.

I dunno who to agree with, on one hand I haven't given a shit about England for ages, long before all these not hating bandwagon jumpers. On the other hand Gazzza used "Crapello" twice, I can't be agreeing with someone who does that.

Argh.

I refuse to watch England because of Gary Spamley.

I was pissed off about the World Cup, the same as everyone else.
But that's history now, and I know it's only two qualifiers against mediocre teams but my enthusiasm for England is coming back, I think because of the change in personnel more than anything, these young'uns have breathed fresh air into the team and I hope they keep their place.

Roll on Euro 2012 :)

You've hit the nail on the head there Ginginho.  We look good in qualifying from easy groups and then get found out against the decent teams at the tournaments.  I genuinely think we could do with getting a tough group to qualify from as then we would face some genuinely tough games before we get to the real competition.

Saying all that I'm happy with how we're playing, and who's playing, but will be interesting to see how Capello copes with Milner being suspended and some of the old regulars returning to fitness.  Genuinely don't know how it will play out.  I'd assume Ferdinand will walk straight back in as he's captain but that's if he's match fit.  Lampard and Terry, I'm not so sure about.  The midfield is looking far more balanced so I'd replace Milner with Johnson and stick with what we've got.  Reckon Terry could have a few games on the bench after his Summer spat.

Harry Redknapp


I care far more about Swindon than England. I had a season ticket for Swindon when Malpas was there and we were shit. In contrast I've never been to see England play and don't watch them on TV much except for major tournaments.

I think you will find it was more cheers of relief than thinking it was a good result. Levein on the other hand is practicing at becoming Tony Blairs new spin doctor.

Nice booing of the Liechtenstein National Anthem as well!

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I'm not questioning your commitment to the Town at all, just don't agree that you or anyone else should put the boot into England when they've just played well if you don't or have never particularly cared ?

I kind of see what you mean but all I was saying was my level of interest in England is that I only properly follow them when they're in tournaments and I won't be happy about them again until they do well in the next one. That might be harsh but it's the way I feel at the moment.

hmmm, yeah. Needless to say that has caused quite a stir on the message boards. What sort of fuckwit boos a national anthem because it sounds like the anthem of a different country?

Its like booing the Marseillaise because it sounds a wee bit like the Star Spangled Banner!

I was very surprised as the Scots are generally pretty respectful of opposition anthems. However as we know, there are some very very stupid football fans out there!!

I think it's a little naive to expect anything less, to be fair.  Imagine Oxford were a Championship or lower end Prem side, and then imagine the next team to play us at the County Ground ran out wearing yellow & blue and a picture of an Ox on their shirts.  I'll hazard a guess that they would get booed.

I'm in Scotland at the moment, and the people I've spoken to are almost embarrassed to have won.  Still - they've given themselves a lifeline.  Scotland's games vs the Czech Republic are key.

Just got back. Great atmosphere in Basel city centre, some of the swiss were joining in too.

Adam Johnson looks great, hopefully he will become a regular. Before the game I thought it would be our toughest test, now either Montenegro or Wales away will be, the Swiss weren't really up to much other than their wonder strike.

As for the debate, I'll always support England, but don't really give a crap about most of the players.

Hamit Altintop scored an absolute screamer for Turkey against Kazakshtan (I'm awaiting the very nice jokes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ucKoRH47fg

Nah he shinned it!

Reminds me of Mendieta's goal against Barca :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rQse21xsOM