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Hi,

We're looking for some contributions from fans travelling to the Franchise match. Nothing too in depth, just a quick questionnaire by email to complete when you get home (asking what you think went well and what didn't etc...)

If you'd like to get involved, please email using the link below. We want as much input from the fans as possible!!!

Cheers

Wise Men Say

What about soliciting some contributions from people who wouldn't dream of setting foot in Wankleman's Palace of All That is Wrong in Football?

yep.fuck Franchise

Good grief man, that would mean Pets and Ardiles boring the tits off of everyone for two days. I've done my time on that and have no wish to revisit that painful experience.

I still loathe Franchise, but my desire to support my team far outweighs my dislike of another team.

Personal choice and all that, innit?

Agree, better to support your team and take three points from those franchising cunts in my opinion even though it still riles me and will for the rest of my life to think that the FA let Winkleman get away with his franchising of a football team.

In other news the real Wimbledon have started the season well.

Started very well China Red.

Am i right in thinking if they go up and the other lot go down then they are in the same league?

Indeed

I don't think he was saying otherwise, just that WMS should reflect both viewpoints?

Thank you Batch that was precisely what I meant. As I've said elsewhere, would never criticise any Town fan for going to support the team - it is as hertha says a matter of personal conscience with no "right" answer

This is also my view and i will be making my fourth trip to MK on Saturday.

My view also. I despise everything they stand for but want to support my team. This time I have justified it to myself that I'm giving them as little money as possible by taking advantage of the Sun promotion. 2 tickets for £19.50.

Stick that up your **** Wankleman!

Spot on

Our own fearless leader was in charge at Franchise for a couple of years, I blame him.

...and in his adver interview he said how "fantastic" it is that they're doing well.  ::)

From Martin Samuel's column this week. Sums my thoughts perfectly :

The most wonderful sight of the weekend was AFC Wimbledon, second in the Conference, level on points with leaders Luton Town. It is early days, but there are genuine hopes of promotion to the Football League.

 AFC Wimbledon first entered the Isthmian League First Division in season 2002-03, and were they to come up it would expose the falsehood at the heart of Franchise, the club formed from the theft of the old Wimbledon.

At the time, Pete Wankelman , owner of MK Franchise, said he could not possibly have invested in the existing team in his locality, Milton Keynes City, because the journey to the Football League would take too long.

As a result the standard bearers for football in the city since 1974 folded in July 2003, victims of Wankelman's demand for instant promotion and recognition. They were his collateral damage, their passing almost unrecognised.

It is painful that Milton Keynes and its zombie football club are now considered appropriate hosts for World Cup football in 2018 and, if there is any justice, by then AFC Wimbledon will have a higher league status.

There is no reason why Wankelman could not have waited for his reward rather than grabbing it. Every true fan would welcome the return of the real Wimbledon next season.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1305833/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Why-Spurs-loath-fund-Harry-Redknapps-grand-designs.html#ixzz0xo2KmrTL

Unfortunately history cannot be changed and the 'real Wimbledon' are Milton Keynes

nope! you're massively wrong.
sorry

Wimbledons history is part of what Milton Keynes are now

MK Dongs will never be the real Wimbledon.

Bullshit.

I completely disagree with that statement.  The real Wimbledon are 'AFC Wimbledon' and I really hoppe they regain their place in the Football League soon.

It would be interesting to know how many supporters of Wimbledon now follow Franchise as opposed to AFC Wimbledon.  My guess is that 99% of their supporters are from Milton Keynes.  I could be wrong though, anyone know?

I think you will find yourself a lonely voice on that one.

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Wrong. Franchise gave that up to AFC a few years ago, including all the cups that were won by the old Wombles.

http://www.wisa.org.uk/cgi/l/articles/index.cgi?action=show&id=571

Agree it's the ultimate dilemma of principles; do you go and support your team thus basically supporting financially a team that is anathema for everything that football stands for, or boycott thus betraying the principle of supporting your team whatever.

It's a dilemma I can't get my head round - I wouldn't blame anyone for going or not on principle

You'll unfortunately be hard pushed to find accurate stats on this, beyond postcodes, as like any "true" Man U supporter, they say they've always supported them. Like you hint at, I believe 99% of Wimbledon's fans were in fact travelling every week from MK to South East London. They were supporters of Wimbledon long before they became a customer of Franchise.

I know Paul wasn't having a dig. It just goes to show though, that even though I'll be going, there's part of me that thinks I shouldn't; hence my over-reaction!

Met a bloke in a bar in corfu with Plastic shirt on (late 40's)

He came from MK........I asked him what shirt he wore 10 years ago...

Reply....A shrug...

At least with an Oxford fan i could of had a constructive slanging match.

i think fans can do without 1 away game out of principle.

He was probably an armchair fan watching the Premiershit.

It's my principle to support the team whenever and wherever I can.

that's your choice, and fair enough.

The thought of no Town fans being there to support the team saddens me though...

I don't blame anyone for boycotting the game whatsoever.

Complete and utter bollocks. If you really believe that then you're a prick. If not, well done. You got me  :fishing:


I can't go along with that at all. It's all about supporting MY team - STFC - and has nothing to do with Franchise. But I would also make the argument that the thing that is going to hurt 'The Franchise' more than anything else is for them to lose games. There is a better chance of that happening if your team has a really good following behind them. We win, they lose. Everyone's happy (Apart from Franchise fans - EVEN BETTER!) There are few things in football more important to me than STFC and MK/Wimbledon is not one of them I'm afraid.

My personal view is that I'm surprised that some one would rather make a point of principle - which isn't really going to make any practical difference whatsoever - than support their own team (which, as I have said, could arguably have more effect than not turning up)

Just one other thing - I find the whole idea of The Franchise as distasteful as the next man mind - but who really are the villains of the piece in this whole debacle? Bearing in mind that Plough Lane was no longer a viable option, is it not Merton Council (who, as a far as I can remember were not in the slightest bit co-operative in finding a new home for Wimbledon) who are to blame? Perhaps some one who is better informed on the subject than I am, can help me out on this one.

they didin't exactly exhaust all options in the vacinity before deciding to move to mk.it was a done deal and they shat on the wimbeldon fans.
i understand our fans wanting to support their team.i just can't put my money into that club.
i look at it from how i would feel if someone did to stfc what they did to wimbledon.that's enough to keep me away for now.

Part of the story about Merton not being co-operative was down to Sam Hammam spin. Plough Lane was given to the club to play football. When it was sold, the money was apparently pocketed personally by Hammam, who then didn't want to fork out for a new ground, and that was the reason over the years the stories about them moving to Dublin, and a few other places, where they would get a new ground built for them for free, like Franchise have, due to the fact ASDA wanted to build a supermarket at MK.

Hammam then found some gullible Norweigans, who bought the club from Hammam, and they bought in Egil Olsen, who then helped take them down out of the PL.

Hammam tried exactly the same at Cardiff, buy selling Ninian Park and pocketing the money, but Cardiff City Council was wise to this, and insisted that all the replacement is built before he could sell Ninian Park :

http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/2456/29/

At the wns of the day,Wimbledon fans just wanted a ground close to their spiritual home, if not in Merton, somewhere as close as possible. They now play at Kingstonian, which they nearly own.

I can see both sides of the argument, but personally, I would NEVER put any money into that club. Even if it was the last game of the season, and we could seal promotion there, it wouldn't tempt me ! I suspect I'll get slated, but that's my stance, and I don't see it makes me any less of a loyal STFC fan for it !

It makes you sound fucking stupid.

You'd turn down a chance to see us get promoted?

I suppose you donated loads to the cause at the time in order to stop it?

You have failed.

If it was one of the 3 last games of a season in which we might get promoted then I probably would go. But apart from that, or Play offs, or a big FAC game, Im not going there again.

Going to Carlisle next week instead. A real club worthy of my cash.

Ive been there once to the Stadium:MK and to the hockey stadium.

Both shite

Ok....very tempted to go and cheer on the AFC

Isn't that a kind of poncho?

Yeah...into Corfu 30 degrees heat....what a cunt.

Looking forward to watching the Real Wimbledon stuff those fake late johnny come lately's AFC.

Come on you MK.

I assume it is on tele?

Anyone know what day/time?

Sunday

12pm on itv

Cheers.