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Title: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: thedarkprince on Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 20:01:15
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/8798656.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/8798656.stm)

Rejected a verbal offer that would have almost doubled his wages and the PL have ruled he can now leave the club on a free because the offer wasn't written down. I think the rule is if the player is under-24 and you offer him in writing a contract on equal, or better terms, the club is then entitled to compensation if the player decides not to sign.

Everton can, and most probably will, appeal.

Can't decide if he's being sensible as he's supposedly being chased by a few clubs so can probably get a decent signing on fee or whether this is just another example of a young player being a greedy little bastard. 


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 20:08:22
Greedy  :cunt:


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 20:28:45
That must stitch up Plymouth Argyle with the loss of percentages and add-ons.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 20:29:16
I think we should wait to see where he ends up and how much he's earning before deciding if he's being greedy. He might go somewhere where he's guaranteed a first team spot or something.

As for Everton not getting any money, it's their own fault. Rules are rules.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 20:31:48
Bill Kenwright will get more stick that's for sure.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 20:32:24
I think we should wait to see where he ends up and how much he's earning before deciding if he's being greedy. He might go somewhere where he's guaranteed a first team spot or something.

As for Everton not getting any money, it's their own fault. Rules are rules.
spot on


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 23:45:26
Sounds like the club were just fucking him around without actually giving him a proper deal.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 8, 2010, 06:33:49
 See Joe Ledley has gone to Celtic on a free, thus robbing Cardiff of compensation.

 Stoke wanted him but would have had to pay compensation, but because he's going to a foreign country that particular FIFA reg doesn't apply.  So Cardiff is now in England according to FIFA.

 Cardiff wanted the Stoke move because they're skint again....Celtic boost their midfield ranks, so all good.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, July 8, 2010, 06:40:09
So Cardiff is now in England according to FIFA.
I thought it was all to do with which Football Association the club would register the player with?  As Cardiff play in the English Football Leagues they fall under the English jurisdiction.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 8, 2010, 06:46:23
I thought it was all to do with which Football Association the club would register the player with?  As Cardiff play in the English Football Leagues they fall under the English jurisdiction.

Well how come that scummer Purse,was freed up to play in the Cup Final a couple of years back by the Welsh FA?  Let's hope Cardiff go bust...


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, July 8, 2010, 07:38:02
Yeah, very good point. Had forgotten about that.

There goes that theory then... 


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 8, 2010, 07:52:38
He's coming here, fittons broken the bank


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, July 22, 2010, 17:30:58
So it appears greedy selfish cunt was spot on after all... 

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According to the ruling, had Everton submitted a written offer of a new contract rather than a verbal one before the May deadline then the club would have been entitled to compensation - believe to be about £4m - because Gosling is under the age of 24.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8844933.stm


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 22, 2010, 17:38:05
Er, not really, that's Everton's own fault for not getting the admin right, he's gone to a club where he'll probably play a lot more and probably on a similar wage with a nice signing on fee to boot. Sounds sensible to me.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, July 22, 2010, 17:40:42
I was thinking more about the fact that Plymouth lose out on any compo and i'm sure he must've been offered much better money to turn down a stable, well-run club like Everton for those dicks on Tyneside.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, July 22, 2010, 17:46:56
I thought it was all to do with which Football Association the club would register the player with?  As Cardiff play in the English Football Leagues they fall under the English jurisdiction.

Aren't registrations held by the league rather than the association? So Cardiff players would be registered with the Football League meaning they are registered in England, rather than Wales.

The discipline thing is due to all Welsh clubs disciplinary and administrative matters being handled by the Welsh FA, though I've got not fucking clue as to why this is so.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, July 22, 2010, 18:23:15
See Joe Ledley has gone to Celtic on a free, thus robbing Cardiff of compensation.

 Stoke wanted him but would have had to pay compensation, but because he's going to a foreign country that particular FIFA reg doesn't apply.  So Cardiff is now in England according to FIFA.

 Cardiff wanted the Stoke move because they're skint again....Celtic boost their midfield ranks, so all good.
That's cardiffs own fault.They openly admit they turned down 5m for ledly from stoke last summer. As for Gosling he has only ever been used sparingly for everton really so can't blame him.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Highland Robin on Friday, July 23, 2010, 07:29:46
Stoke wanted him but would have had to pay compensation, but because he's going to a foreign country that particular FIFA reg doesn't apply.  So Cardiff is now in England according to FIFA.

 

Errrrrr.....and in case one or two in England didn't realise it, Wales is a different country from Scotland, so if it were to do with going to a foreign country, (and i have absolutely no idea what rule it is) it would still count!!!


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, July 23, 2010, 09:35:10
Wales is not a country, it's a pricipality.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, July 23, 2010, 09:43:22
Errrrrr.....and in case one or two in England didn't realise it, Wales is a different country from Scotland, so if it were to do with going to a foreign country, (and i have absolutely no idea what rule it is) it would still count!!!

You missed the point. If he'd gone to Stoke a fee would have been payable which means he was viewed as registered in England rather than Wales. So Wales has got fuck all to do with it.

Wales is not a country, it's a pricipality.

If you're going to be a smart arse it helps if you spell words correctly - it's principality. Though according to Wikipedia Wales is a country and the principality thing is bollocks.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: donkey on Friday, July 23, 2010, 10:02:58
You missed the point. If he'd gone to Stoke a fee would have been payable which means he was viewed as registered in England rather than Wales. So Wales has got fuck all to do with it.

If you're going to be a smart arse it helps if you spell words correctly - it's principality. Though according to Wikipedia Wales is a country and the principality thing is bollocks.

Well, that's another reason not to always trust Wikipedia.

Wales is a Principality.
England and Scotland are both Constituent Countries.
Northern Ireland is a Province.

Together they form the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

What does Dan Gosling think about that?


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, July 23, 2010, 10:04:50
What does Dan Gosling think about that?

He probably doesn't care !!!


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, July 23, 2010, 11:42:24
You missed the point. If he'd gone to Stoke a fee would have been payable which means he was viewed as registered in England rather than Wales. So Wales has got fuck all to do with it.

If you're going to be a smart arse it helps if you spell words correctly - it's principality. Though according to Wikipedia Wales is a country and the principality thing is bollocks.

It was a typo. See if I get this one right:

Fuck off you stupid cunt.

Looks ok to me.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Highland Robin on Friday, July 23, 2010, 11:58:50
You missed the point. If he'd gone to Stoke a fee would have been payable which means he was viewed as registered in England rather than Wales. So Wales has got fuck all to do with it.

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Sorry...I didn't miss the point really; I was simply commenting on Reg's original post, and making the general point (to which the question of the status of Wales is actually irrelevant - except to the Welsh) that Scotland is a foreign country to England and Wales in FIFA's estimation.  As I said, I do not know anything about the rules, so i bow to your superior knowledge of what is and what isn't relevant to them.


Title: Re: Dan Gosling - greedy cunt or sensible chap?
Post by: Crispy on Friday, July 23, 2010, 11:59:49
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/championship/newcastleunited/7905487/Dan-Gosling-delighted-by-brilliant-move-to-Newcastle.html