Title: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:16:44 I see the story about the gay couple being turned away from a B&B is back in the news, this is the original for anyone that missed it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8578787.stm I'm with the owners of the B&B - if they don't want gay people in their B&B then it should be up to them and they shouldn't have it forced on them by the law. Provided they handle it the right way and in this case it looks like they did, they turned them away politely and gave them a refund, then where is the problem? Especially as it sounds like it was just them sharing a room that was the issue and they'd have been happy if they had separate rooms. What annoys me most though is that if I went away with a few mates there are plenty of places that wouldn't give us rooms due to their no all male parties rule. If we went to the Police to complain they'd tell us to fuck off. But if we went to the Police and told them we were gay they'd step in. Which is just fucking crazy. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:24:43 I'm with the B&B owners on this one.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:25:24 I see the story about the gay couple being turned away from a B&B is back in the news, this is the original for anyone that missed it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8578787.stm I'm with the owners of the B&B - if they don't want gay people in their B&B then it should be up to them and they shouldn't have it forced on them by the law. Provided they handle it the right way and in this case it looks like they did, they turned them away politely and gave them a refund, then where is the problem? Especially as it sounds like it was just them sharing a room that was the issue and they'd have been happy if they had separate rooms. What annoys me most though is that if I went away with a few mates there are plenty of places that wouldn't give us rooms due to their no all male parties rule. If we went to the Police to complain they'd tell us to fuck off. But if we went to the Police and told them we were gay they'd step in. Which is just fucking crazy. Homophobe... Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:27:02 being gay is sooo last year.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:28:25 Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:29:09 Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem. Bang on. Very well put. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:29:59 Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem. Replace black with people who can't use the apostrophe correctly.... Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: nochee on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:31:05 what about black gay people?
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:32:54 what about black gay people? Not, if they can't use the apostrophe correctly.... Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:37:40 Replace gay with black, then tell me if you see the problem. The difference is that they didn't have a problem with the gay couple staying at their B&B, they just didn't want them sharing a room due to their religious beliefs. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but surely other people have a right to their own beliefs and not have other's beliefs forced upon them? Though given their beliefs maybe running a B&B isn't their best career choice. I'm no homophobe. Years ago when I was contracting I stayed in B&Bs during the week for a couple of years, the best one I ever stayed in (in fact the best B&B ever) was run by a gay couple. If they'd told me they didn't want me and my girlfriend staying there it wouldn't have bothered me, I'd have just respected their right to choose. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:39:03 Maybe it's not that they have a problem with gay people, rather they have a problem with THOSE gay people.
Would you let either one of those into you home even if they were on there own? Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:40:45 The difference is that they didn't have a problem with the gay couple staying at their B&B, they just didn't want them sharing a room due to their religious beliefs. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but surely other people have a right to their own beliefs and not have other's beliefs forced upon them? Though given their beliefs maybe running a B&B isn't their best career choice. I'm no homophobe. Years ago when I was contracting I stayed in B&Bs during the week for a couple of years, the best one I ever stayed in (in fact the best B&B ever) was run by a gay couple. If they'd told me they didn't want me and my girlfriend staying there it wouldn't have bothered me, I'd have just respected their right to choose. It's not very complicated, it's called prejudice. That's all. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:41:53 Not, if they can't use the apostrophe correctly.... Commas, on the other hand, you're relaxed about. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:42:42 It's not very complicated, it's called prejudice. That's all. OK. So if a B&B turns away a group of 4 (straight) males due to a "no all male parties" rule, should that be illegal as well? Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:47:19 Turning away groups of lads because things like stag doss and stuff tend to be a fair bit of trouble is a big world away from banning a group of people because of their sexuality.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 14:55:26 Exactly. It's prejudice plain and simple. I love the way they use a superstition as a excuse because that's the modern day equivalent as the right to do whatever the fuck you want. It then also means no one can really say fuck all.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 15:13:25 The difference is that they didn't have a problem with the gay couple staying at their B&B, they just didn't want them sharing a room due to their religious beliefs. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but surely other people have a right to their own beliefs and not have other's beliefs forced upon them? Though given their beliefs maybe running a B&B isn't their best career choice. I'm no homophobe. Years ago when I was contracting I stayed in B&Bs during the week for a couple of years, the best one I ever stayed in (in fact the best B&B ever) was run by a gay couple. If they'd told me they didn't want me and my girlfriend staying there it wouldn't have bothered me, I'd have just respected their right to choose. Jonny - I really do enjoy reading most of your posts. You're one of the people on here who I think make the forum a more interesting place. But that last comment has a whiff of complete bollocks about it. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:20:19 I love gays I might open a gay only B&B and turn away straight people
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:26:30 I love gays I might open a gay only B&B and turn away straight people Good keep em all in one place you fag hagTitle: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: pauld on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:36:40 Not only should they be forced to let the gays in they should be made to sleep with them as punishment
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:41:18 That's a bit harsh on the poor gays.
Maybe just send them on some sort of gay course which brings out some of their inner gay. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: pauld on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 16:42:35 No, justice is justice. And the gays should get to choose any "accessories" they deem fit
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Hammer on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 17:20:23 Why would a gay couple want to stay in a B&B anyway ? Surely they could have found a camp site.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 17:28:33 It all depends. If they were a couple of mincing queens, wearing satin hotpants and string-vest teeshirts, with pierced nipples, tonguing each other in reception, a lot of folks might tell them to do one.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 18:06:31 I love gays I might open a gay only B&B and turn away straight people I am sure George Michael appreciates your sentiments. I don't understand gays, all I know is that suicide is sometimes an outcome for those who reach the conclusion that they are gay, so I don't think it is matter of choice. So where does that leave the discussion. If you discriminate against gays, skin colour, weight, religion and so on,, it's discrimination, with the exception that if you discriminate against an Oxford United supporter then that's legitimate. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Lumps on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 18:20:44 I am sure George Michael appreciates your sentiments. That's not the same. Supporting the scum is definitely a lifestyle choice.I don't understand gays, all I know is that suicide is sometimes an outcome for those who reach the conclusion that they are gay, so I don't think it is matter of choice. So where does that leave the discussion. If you discriminate against gays, skin colour, weight, religion and so on,, it's discrimination, with the exception that if you discriminate against an Oxford United supporter then that's legitimate. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: DMR on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 18:36:11 Turning away groups of lads because things like stag doss and stuff tend to be a fair bit of trouble is a big world away from banning a group of people because of their sexuality. Spot on. Jonny72 making an ignorant tit of himself, as per usual. Can we turn you away from the TEF on account of you being a retard? Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 18:43:02 can we turn you away for being a typical oxbridge reject rugger bugger that drinks pints of his mates piss?
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: DMR on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 18:44:33 Only if you go with me on account of being a jumped up self publicising ringpiece?
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: sTUPID CAPS LOCK on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 18:59:39 I'm with the B&B owners on this one. yeah, i agree. the thought of 2 men thrusting, probing, licking every inch of each other's quivering bodies. their muscular frames glistening with sweat as they come together in a jizz fountain of ecstacy is enough to make anyone feel a bit queasy. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 19:42:48 They lived in the BB and didnt feel it was right.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 20:06:19 Having read the article, I think it would have been fairer if the two individuals had mentioned to the proprietor that they would go and discuss with the Old Bill. At this point a no hanky panky while under this roof understanding could have been arrived at. I have no sympathy with either side of the argument. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Ginginho on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 21:47:48 I don't give a shit either way, however i've had some Guinness and whisky so I offer this little beauty to lighten the mood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNy0iq3_Eo Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: deltaincline on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 22:48:24 Would anyone seriously let one or both of those dodgy looking fuckers anywhere near their guest house, let alone cross over the threshold?
I think the proprietors of the B&B are morally if not legally entitled to tell them to fuck off. It's their property, they clearly dont approve of that particular lifestyle and have done the right thing by their own standards. The laundry bill alone would be mental anyway, trying to wash all that shit and sweetcorn off... ;D If more people said what they really think about a whole host of subjects, rather than what they are supposed to think or say, cunts like those two would be safely back in the fucking closet they crawled out from. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Lumps on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 23:09:37 They lived in the BB and didnt feel it was right. And they could refuse to accommodate mixed race couples if it offended their thoughts on racial purity presumably? Homophobia is still the acceptable bigotry isn't it? Shit, despite the Islamophobia that runs riot on here fairly often, if this fellah had said that he thought it was acceptable for someone to turn away a muslim couple, most of you would say that was out of order. To be fair to the Tory prat mind, having heard the tape, he didn't suggest that the law should be changed, and admitted he'd voted for it, just suggested he could see the other side of the argument. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 23:15:18 So, if it was a Muslim couple who turned away the "nine bobbers", would there have been an equal fuss? I'm as atheist as they come but Chrisitans are getting a rough ride at the moment. If it offends their beliefs then whats the problem. I think the major issue is that which legislation has primacy.
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 23:33:47 And they could refuse to accommodate mixed race couples if it offended their thoughts on racial purity presumably? Homophobia is still the acceptable bigotry isn't it? Shit, despite the Islamophobia that runs riot on here fairly often, if this fellah had said that he thought it was acceptable for someone to turn away a muslim couple, most of you would say that was out of order. To be fair to the Tory prat mind, having heard the tape, he didn't suggest that the law should be changed, and admitted he'd voted for it, just suggested he could see the other side of the argument. Yawn. Private property, up to the owners. End of. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, April 4, 2010, 23:36:12 Are
So, if it was a Muslim couple who turned away the "nine bobbers", would there have been an equal fuss? I'm as atheist as they come but Chrisitans are getting a rough ride at the moment. If it offends their beliefs then whats the problem. I think the major issue is that which legislation has primacy. I respect your beliefs, but are you an implicit or explicit atheist (saw it on Wiki when I looked up atheist). Based on the following definitions, I am an agnostic. Taoism Shit happens. Buddhism If shit happens, it's not really shit. Islam If shit happens, it's the will of Allah. Protestantism Shit happens because you don't work hard enough. Judaism Why does this shit always happen to us? Hinduism This shit happened before. Catholicism Shit happens because you're bad. Hare Krishna Shit happens rama rama. T.V. Evangelism Send more shit. Atheism No shit. Jehova's Witness Knock knock, shit happens. Hedonism There's nothing like a good shit happening. Christian Science Shit happens in your mind. Agnosticism Maybe shit happens, maybe it doesn't. Rastafarianism Let's smoke this shit. Existentialism What is shit anyway? Stoicism This shit doesn't bother me. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: sTUPID CAPS LOCK on Monday, April 5, 2010, 00:13:01 Yawn. Private property, up to the owners. End of. spot on. if you open up a business to the public you should be able to discriminate against who you want. i run a muslims only betting shop. business is slow, but at least i keep the riff raff out. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Talk Talk on Monday, April 5, 2010, 00:37:40 spot on. if you open up a business to the public you should be able to discriminate against who you want. i run a muslims only betting shop. business is slow, but at least i keep the riff raff out. The forum name was funny the first time. Now you are just an anonymous no personality cunt. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, April 5, 2010, 08:55:53 Not only should they be forced to let the gays in they should be made to sleep with them as punishment Haha quality. I noticed your comment about the people smoking in their cars in the Adver the other week too. Had me in stitches. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: pauld on Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:31:06 Haha quality. I noticed your comment about the people smoking in their cars in the Adver the other week too. Had me in stitches. For the 48th time, the PaulD on the Adver comments section isn't me. I haven't had the lobotomy which is a pre-requisite to post on Adver comments sectionTitle: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:33:15 next time he posts im going to ask him if he is still involved in the trust
Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: pauld on Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:34:37 next time he posts im going to ask him if he is still involved in the trust Just ask him to get a different username so people don't keep thinking I'm responsible for some of his drivelTitle: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: donkey on Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:35:53 Just ask him to get a different username so people don't keep thinking I'm responsible for some of his drivel Why don't you change yours?Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: pauld on Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:38:05 Why don't you change yours? I was here first. I might challenge him to a duel for the right to use it. First to punch their way out of a wet paper bag winsTitle: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, April 5, 2010, 20:56:17 For the 48th time, the PaulD on the Adver comments section isn't me. I haven't had the lobotomy which is a pre-requisite to post on Adver comments section Sorry I didn't see the other 47 times you must have posted this. I normally skim over your posts, easy to miss a thing like that. Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: adje on Monday, April 5, 2010, 21:24:37 yeah, i agree. the thought of 2 men thrusting, probing, licking every inch of each other's quivering bodies. their muscular frames glistening with sweat as they come together in a jizz fountain of ecstacy is enough to make anyone feel a bit queasy. Do you think you may have thought about it just a bit too much? Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: Crozzer on Monday, April 5, 2010, 21:39:07 yeah, i agree. the thought of 2 men thrusting, probing, licking every inch of each other's quivering bodies. their muscular frames glistening with sweat as they come together in a jizz fountain of ecstacy is enough to make anyone feel a bit queasy. What do you have to think about lezzers? Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: sTUPID CAPS LOCK on Monday, April 5, 2010, 21:57:43 What do you have to think about lezzers? their muscular frames joined together in a scrum as they probe the back line in search of a try. shaving, scratching each other in a fountain of dungarees Title: Re: No Gay's At The Inn Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, April 5, 2010, 22:08:53 Are Looks like I must be agnostic as well thenI respect your beliefs, but are you an implicit or explicit atheist (saw it on Wiki when I looked up atheist). Based on the following definitions, I am an agnostic. Taoism Shit happens. Buddhism If shit happens, it's not really shit. Islam If shit happens, it's the will of Allah. Protestantism Shit happens because you don't work hard enough. Judaism Why does this shit always happen to us? Hinduism This shit happened before. Catholicism Shit happens because you're bad. Hare Krishna Shit happens rama rama. T.V. Evangelism Send more shit. Atheism No shit. Jehova's Witness Knock knock, shit happens. Hedonism There's nothing like a good shit happening. Christian Science Shit happens in your mind. Agnosticism Maybe shit happens, maybe it doesn't. Rastafarianism Let's smoke this shit. Existentialism What is shit anyway? Stoicism This shit doesn't bother me. |