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Why the fuck every time they show an Arsenal home game do Sky have to spend 30 seconds panning along the section of the stadium that shows the trophies they've won and then pause for a minute on the big gap at the end?

Once or twice fair enough. But they do it every fucking time. Wankers.

cant say i've noticed exept for today when they were talking about the trophies and the gap since 2005

First time I 've seen it today.

Trust me they do it every single fucking time. Its quite possible they actually cut to stock footage for it as they say exactly the same fucking thing as well. Everybody knows they haven't won a trophy for a while, get over it.

I've only seen them do it once before.

when a side plays like arsenal do, their lack of trophies for the last 4 years is surely a debate worth having.
innit?

Yeah but how many times do you need to mass debate it?

closet yid?

Fuck me arriba....lets hope they dont do it at Newcastle in that case.

exactly. Arsenal fans love the great football/wenger is a genius tag played out every 2 minutes. But the proof its worthless is in the trophy cabinet.

Yes, because Wenger hasnt won Arsenal anything.

he built one of the greatest top flight sides ever. Just the once mind.

Not sure about that. When they get going Arsenal play the best football to watch there is, if I was an Arsenal fan I'd be happy with that and not winning anything. Besides, they don't have anywhere near the money that Man Utd and Chelsea have and what Wenger does on a budget is pretty incredible.

Which is more than 18 other managers in the Premier League.

I've been listening to the Arsenal fans all afternoon (I can hear them from my flat). They've been chanting "We won the league at White Hart Lane" all day. What year was that?! Going back a bit!

how fucking good is fabregas now?
now the best centre mid in the prem imo.awesome today.

Just watching it on MOTD 2 now.  Yes hes fucking ace.  Even with Boltons usual tactic of trying to beat him up he's a class above anyone else in the premiership.

He's a damn good footballer.

In some ways its a shame the rest of the Arsenal team around him dont match up to him. Give it another 2 years and I reckon he'll be off to Spain.

Cesc Fabregas cannot be expected to stay in England forever - but he's a great footballer whose game has improved season-by-season. I wish more of England's better players or even younger talents would play in Serie A or La Liga.

A 22 year old with over 50 caps for a national side like Spain and over 200 senior appearances for Arsenal is impressive. However, all he has at Arsenal is an F.A. Cup winners medal.

I think Fabregas could be the long turn replacement for Xavi at Barcelona.

Football is about winning not mincing around looking pretty and finishing 3rd/4th. wenger is clearly an excellent manager, his record says that but i cant help but think hes deluding himself if he thinks he can win major trophys with players brought through the youth team with an average height of 3ft. His teams of old had steel as well as technique.

I dont think deep down Wenger truely believe that.

Since they moved to their new stadium he hasnt been given the money to spend.

Henry, Pires, Ljungberg, Edu, Vieria, Petit, Gilberto, Kanu, Wiltord, Toure - all bought, some for decent money to.

But the arsenal board always seem to be saying he has money if he wants it. Their accounts say they make money dspite the ground move. (you'd fucking hope so given their ticket prices) It wouldnt even take that much to make them geninue contenders for me. A couple of Big strong players in the £10-£15m bracket

I think his idea was that he would need to spend money until a time when the youth team started paying dividends in terms of the number of players making it into the first team.