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Picture the scene. Your walking home from work, and a 17 year old girl walks up to you. She doesn't seem like a chav, and politely asks if you could buy her two cans of strongbow and a small bottle of lambrini, from the off license around the corner. Do you

A - Carry on walking
       or
B - Buy her the alcohol, because you yourself knows how it feels to be 17 and pissed off at not being able to buy booze

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Don't buy it.

What do you get in return?

 Say you'll buy it, if she comes back to yours to drink it. :)

If she tells you she's 17, she probably 14.

So (A).

In which case tell her you're 14....

buy it, we've all done it. stop being so fucking grumpy and old.

The girl didn't tell me how old she was, but she looked about 17

so did you buy it?

Thats the question I was waiting for!

Buy Old Speckled Hen instead and drink it !

Yeah. The only thing i'm worried about is someone from work see me hand over a bag of booze and £5 to a stranger. Other than that i'm not overly concerened, just wondered where others stood

good for you dave, now wait half an hour go back and try and get off with her.

Haha

I had the same situation a few months back,I bought it and worried about it for the rest of the night.

A couple of girls asked me a few weeks ago, they couldn't have been any older than 13-14.
I refused, but I felt really mean and old/boring, but I go in that shop a lot and didn't want to get myself into trouble :)

The bloke had the drinks waiting on the side when i went in!

Do it.

That much alcohol for a few kids means that they will likely get to the local park/woods, get wrecked and spend the night and following day or two feeling violently sick.

It's a right's of passage thingamy jig, one day it will be your kid waiting around the corner from the offy.

Dont know about there, but we have a lot of stings going on up here, lots of fines for shops and the people who buy. so no dont for legal reasons. And morally no, i never have and never will, that goes for fags for schoolkids too.

When I was up in Glenrothes a few years back a kid who could've been no older than 12 asked me to buy him a ten deck of Lambert & Butler in return for 10p. I refused.

had ne not heared the buyers rights rule? i guess you dont smoke sam but if you buy some one a 10 deck you take 2 out for yourself, or if 20 its 4. Used to love getting away with that one.

Our local rag names and shames buyers of alcohol and fags for underagers. 

For that reason (strokes beard) I'm out.

I think a long lecture on the wrongs of buying Lambrini for anyone of any age was in order here, it seems like the perfect opportunity for a bit of alcohol education.  You should taken the money, purchased a decent vintage Chianti Colli Senesi (insist on extra to cover the cost at this point), some Parma Ham and a good old bit of crusty bread for them.

thats brilliant, did he look at you funny?

ooooooooh I have done it in the past - but then I remember asking people to do it for me when I was younger sooooooooooooooo

Lambrini though?  :puke: - god even a chav like me wont drink that!

In this situation you buy for them on the basis that they also buy something for you - commission.  I used to buy 15 year olds cigarettes if they paid for a pack for me as well.  They're going to get hold of them anyway, and this way I got free fags.  Everyone's a winner.

The only real thing to consider is whether the girl was fit or not.

On a serious note, if you asked someone to buy you fags or booze when you were younger then you probably should.

The trouble is I have trouble getting served Alcohol myself without ID so Im prob not the best person to ask!!

Where's that JFW, the St Dunstan's arms ?

I dont understand  :(

I got asked a while ago, but just said 'Buy it yourself', and went in the shop to buy beer for me.

I buy booze for my under aged children if they ask me (for parties or friends coming round etc). Which they have done now and again in the past. No problem. I have allowed them all alcohol for years as I would rather they were exposed to, and feel comfortable with it rather than asking some fucking weird forum posting passer by to get it for them.

We went to Greece a few years back and my eldest lad was 14. His big moment was going off to the bar on the ferry after we had just woken up and buying himself a bottle of Heineken with no questions asked. He drank it slowly of his own accord. A very proud moment for me.

My Dad did the same with me Alan and it's definitely the way I'll be bringing up my kids.

So did my dad Sam.

Way to go my friend.

Thats fair enough Talk Talk...thats ok untill your 14 year old daughter goes round someones house...i certainly wouldnt have wanted her friends parents giving her booze at that age...we all have different values and not knocking yours............but i would never have baught booze for my kids or there friends...not even at 16..................your facing some serious consequences if something goes wrong or there is an accident.

To be fair if Talk Talk trusts his kid to not be a dickhead then there's now't wrong

I can see leefer's point about giving other people's kids alcohol, but I personally don't see the harm in allowing them a little bit. It's not as if Alan was trying to get them pissed.

Its the Dickheads she or he may be with though...always trusted my kids,we all do dont we...its the others though.
As i said i learnt long ago not to preach on such matters,we are all different,my problem is i tend to look at the negatives with regards such matters...in truth things rarely go wrong.

With respect, that is the problem, isn't it.

If you treat your children as adults then they will respond accordingly. I never sent my 14 year old daughter out to parties with booze, I agree, that is just foolish. But there is no reason why she shouldn't have had a glass or two of wine with her dinner at that age. Or my boys having a bottle of Bud with their food. At 16 you can go out to work, do all manner of things and so on and I don't see any problem with letting them have alcohol for parties etc because they have had a few years to accept that it is no big deal.

If you deny them it and treat it as taboo then sure as eggs are small ovoid fledgeling containers as soon as they get the opportunity they will try it and probably drink in excess and then that is the point of greatest danger.

I will concur to some extent though - if my under aged children ever have somebody to stay for dinner I don't offer their friends drink as it is not up to me to second guess their parents wishes or feelings on it.

I agree to an extent...my feelings are with regards drink,drugs and even driving they should do these things when they are old enough....the reason being i didnt have parental guidance on such matters and struggled with certain things as i grew up...its probably the reason i am/was abit negative about it....i certainly hope you dont think i was havin a go cos i wasnt.

So surely the point is with a bit of parental guidance we grow up better and learn?

No, not at all. It's fine.

It is all just life experience I think. My parent's approach worked on me and I have passed that on.

Ha ha - a while back I took three of my children out to Wroughton aerodrome when they were 14, 12 and 10 and got them driving around the airfield in my Mini (with me sat in the passenger seat, obviously). A great car to do that in as the clutch is easy to control. They loved it. Funnily enough my dad did that to me as well when I was small.

Not very keen on drugs though, tbh.

Well it sounds like you have fun with your family....good on yer.

Who's to say other than you when your kid is old enough or responsible enough to have a drink, Leefer? What we do in this regard with our kids in our own houses is up to us, surely?

I don't give a fuck what the law says, kids should be able have a glass of wine or a small beer if they want one as they mature and move into adulthood. A kid that's used to a tipple now and then is far less likely to go pissing it up on the snide, IMHO.

Sounds like TT has it about right with his family ;)

i have offered my kids a drink,but the little cunts just want my cocaine instead.

I think that by having a drink yourself but not allowing your kids to you sort of glamourise the idea - a bit like staying up late.  Tell them they can't do it and they'll think they are missing out on something big.  By letting them have one, you take thataway and make it seem like no big deal.

The law says it...not me,as for a kid having the odd tipple being used to a drink...well thats your opinion.....so is it right to give your kids the odd white line,you know just to take the glamour away....would that make them more unlikely not to get into trouble with drugs?....whats the difference...none of course,ime not saying a beer with your lad or a glass of wine with your daughter is wrong...what i am saying is i wouldnt want and didnt have my kids drinking at friends houses at 14....and certainly wouldnt have given it to there friends at my house.....read all the posts before making general remarks.

This was the post i was refering to...not clever i feel....obviously you disagree delta.