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We dont have a thread about it this year do we???

Come on I know you all secretly love it!  :D

so down to the judges houses now! Im quite impressed alot of the sob stories have gone - Dead brother/autistic/knife crime etc

personally Im a teeny bit in love with Ethan!  :-[

like the afro man and the teacher too - good over 25's this year

What is Louis doing picking those god awful twin boys!!! I think he wants to have bum sex with them?

So jealous of the girls getting to meet Kylie though

i didn't see last nights but think alot are pretty average from saturdays programme.
my picks would be the welsh girl and the black girl with the short weird hairstyle.
i hate those little irish cunts already

Yeah, those two Bart Simpson twins are annoying as fuck, how they got through I don't know.

I like the little Welsh bird, can't remember her name.

Was wondering when someone would start a thread. Good groups this year.

It's Lucie Jones Ginginho. The two irish lads can fuck right off.

I reckon that Olly will win. The over 25s look a good category this year.

And if I ever met those Irish twins they'd get one hell of slap, the annoying little cunts.

Wow, that's got a good ring to it.

Lucie Jones Ginginho, I want her to win even more now

Sussex are you jpoking about the bands being good??

Apprently those 3 young girls that wear colourful clothes - something like true colourz?? have been binned off already as one of them lied about there age and is under 16

ha ha, yeah all over the x factor this year. I think the standard's quite good actually. Like everyone, can't believe the irish twats made it through, but I think there are some good over -25s and some good birds.

The welsh one is tidy.

The dude with the afro played a friend of ours weddings last year. he's a reading boy.

Not bands jfw, just the groups in general. ie, Olly Murs or Jamie Afro? ooooooh!

think the goup with the three girls put together could be good, although I see trouble ahead - I think they'll be bitching about each other in no time.

ahhhh was gonna say!

I would have lamped them two fuckwits had they interuppted my audition.

They are going to be this years annoying that everyone will love to hate and Walsh will keep bigging them up to wind up Cowell

Personally I just tune in to watch Cheryl and Danni.....but as JFW says jealous on meeting Kylie

I think the entertainers will win one of either olly or jamie,the welsh lass is good too but cowell will pick the right songs for those two entertainers.

As for them Irish twats louis walsh will be all over them like a rash,especially them being irish and like juddie said above i would have knocked the cunts out had they ruined my audition  

I can see it now! Louis will have them singing High School muscial songs wearing matching outfits!! vomit time! just like that Eggnogg boy last year!

I caught it last week and was in tears.  That pair that had worked at Butlins/Pontins we're like something out of Viz.

The behemoth girl who I think was called Katie with her permanent blank expression across her face and the mouth always slightly agape.  Then her boyfriend the balding camp fella with glasses half her height and double her age.  The way they held hands and she sort of dragged him along with her mouth open had me in fits.

When he squealed and started crying after they went off stage claiming he nearly messed it all up for her I was literally crying yellow tears and had to pay a visit to the bathroom.  As he squealed the camera panned around to reveal that same blank expression on her boat race with mouth adjar.  Fucking marvellous British exploitive shite at it’s best.

Please tell me they got through.

No - they totally messed up the first song they sang and got booted off straight away!!!

She was like a barrell - she went out at the neck and back in at the ankles! she had brought a lovely new purple frock though! she looked like a big quality street!!

The annoying part about that is we will have to put up with them for weeks because all of ireland will vote for them.

I like Olly, hes proper quirky, especially with that first audition.

Those Irish twins should be shot, but Ireland will probably vote for them keeping them in -  a bit like the jocks when they get an act in any competition.

Those irritating Irish twins should be put in a sack with lead weights and put in the Thames. They have absolutely fuck all redeeming features whatsoever. its a shame Simon didn't get them. How the other contestants haven't chinned them is beyond me.

I would've gave those twins a good slapping if they interrupted me also.

I think each group now goes from 6 to 3, so it'll be interesting who gets dropped.

Louis support of the two Irish Freaks smacks of Peodophilia.

I really really hate them,they make me very angry.

Strictlys wheres its really at though.

Not really got into it, is it any good?
Might have to give it a try, that ice skating one was OK, but I got bored of it. I did like some of the skimpy outfits that the ladies wore though

Luckily I don't think that the Irish are able to vote any more so the annoying fuckers won't last long should they make it through.

I have a deal with the superior half on saturdays at the moment.  She can watch x factor if I can watch Match of the Day.  During x factor I do something more enjoyable than watching it - shaving with a blunt kitchen knife, self-dentistry and nose-hair pulling have all been enjoyed so far.

You have an agreement?

Fuck that, i just nick the remote :)

By the way, have you got your car yet?  What do you reckon to it

Looks like you'd have to join one long queue there, Sam.
They actually give me the creeps they are so vile.

Fuck off, I was the first one in the queue.

Funnily enough I picked it up last week.  I'm pretty pleased with it, quite nice to drive and looks great in the dark red colour I got.  Rubbish glove box though, you can't fit the handbook in.  Have you got yours?

Remote nicking is punishable, not by death, but by enforced vacuuming.

I got mine at the start of august. However some twat has already done the door in.
Does your ipod work properly? Mine only seems to load half of the songs.

No other problems apart from that yet to report.

Being a bit behind the times  I don't have an ipod so I don't know.  The CD player works a treat though.

Rumour has it that the two vile twins have made it to the finals. I hope, really hope this isn't true though.

I was hoping you meant vial twins, and we had our first celebrity clones.

I hope the irish twins die.

Seriously.

surely for entertainment value they should be kept in for a while?
they will become hate figures and will get pelters so its all good innit.

As soon as I knew Louis was there mentor I knew they were through

As I said before que matching outfits and high school musical songs  :-X :puke:

Theres a facebook poll going on at the moment entitled "GET THE X-FACTOR TWINS OUT !!!!!!!" embarassment to Ireland! hahaha

Que Sara Sara?

Surely they'll only last as many weeks as there are Ant and Dec songs to cover?

I concur with the general consensus a good beheading is in order here, possibly by a drunken executioner so it takes a few blows to finish them off.

I'd like to mate them with the Cheeky Girls and rent the offspring out at Children's parties.

They could give themselves the group name 'Thrush'.

Irritating cunts.

Woohoo been invited to apply for tickets for the X Factor.....see if I get them now !!

Gay. Watching it on TV is just about acceptable. Going to a live show is not. Man the fuck up.

This.

How the hell do you "get invited" To get tickets?

and me! Applied for the 7th november. Charlotte you need to go onto applause store I think that's what it's called and register and you get can get free tickets to quite a few shows.

Yep, that's what I did - gone for Oct 31 - knowing stfc are away and I wouldn't be going to the game.

Never got any tickets before for audiences and probably won't this time as I expect there will be so many applying but if you don't try and then you don't know

If you want any X factor goodies cheap :

http://www.gettingpersonal.co.uk/x-factor-gifts/the-x-factor.htm?utm_source=AW_AF&cm_mmc_o=-8CjCaw0fCjC7yBA5WzFwCjCezybz_kw

And if you use the code xfactor25 at checkout, you'll get 25% off as well !!

Oh dear people!

What on earth would you want x-factor goodies for?

like all reality / 'talent' programs the 1st or 2nd are always the best, and they go downhil from there.

Way too much tinkering now for my liking....

Also, after reading chart throb by ben elton, cant take any of it seriously any more - have you ever thought its funny that the acts that make it to the final just happen to be covered in detail in the early stages, e.g. footage of them walking up to the audition centre, footage of them waiting in the waiting area etc etc. Its makes you wonder if just perhaps they are all selected beforehand....hmm, I wonder?!

You started well here, with "like all reality / 'talent' programs" but then trailed off - if you had continued with "this is complete and utter toss" you might have been closer to the truth.  Last point is pretty valid I would imagine.

Its light hearted Sat night fun!! I love it - the programmes up the to live shows are the best though - find the tedious weeks of singing after that a bit dull

Not sure Id want to buy any "goodies" though

If you are forced to watch it, guess if they are going to be good or not before they start singing.  This is actually very easy.  If their introduction involves them saying that they are very good "I'm like Tina Turner" etc, then they will be terrible.  If they have one or more of the following: dead/terminally ill relative, disability, facial disfigurement, they will be at least able to sing.  If any of that second group have background music in their introduction, they or one of the judges will cry at some point.  This rule hasn't failed me yet - not that "light-hearted saturday fun" is predictable, of course...

Are they the ones that look like Trolls? If so Louis just put them through. Not that I'm watching it of course.

think simon got it a bit wrong.i would have put both girls through

I would love if those little shits were booed at the live shows! :)

I think it's mandatory for Louis to put an Irish act through, even though they are complete and utter tossers !!

So the potato picker over the water phone in to.

I think Cheryl made very poor choices!!

NO ETHAN!!!!  >:(

I think every single person who had an Irish twins related Facebook status last night deserves to be shot.

Agreed.

Ive voted in a poll to get them out? doe that deserve a shooting??

two shootings.

first a thread about Jordan & Andre now one about the X Factor.

RIP the TEF.

Oh bore off you miserable oaf

Maybe we should have one of those threads that stays at the top of the screen called something like "brainless TV for idiots" where all x-idol, pop factor, Andre Jordan, Striclty Prancing About Like A Twat programmes could be discussed.

We've got one but it's disguised. It's called cricket. *duck*

My status about 17 year old Irish twins was nothing to do with X Factor

Ooh I saw this yesterday for the first time, laughed at the shitness of what I assumed was the early auditions, then my housemate told me these were the finalists and that they were really good. Thank god for Cheryl Cole or I'd have attacked him and/or the TV.

It's each to their own though, some people enjoy watching it others don't if everyone enjoyed watching the same programs then TV would be rather boring and we'd all be couch potato's.

*bumped this just to annoy the old mysery that is Dave* ;)

Im liking this Xfactor over the whole weekend thing! quite surpised that Rachel was int he bottom 2 though?

i think this years standard is as poor as its ever been.

about 6 years younger than you, though :)

glad the twins stayed in, need them for the entertainment. and seeing robbie off his tits on stage was funny

Oh yes Robbie indeed had eyes like saucers

But I love him a bit more now he lives in Calne

Proof if it were needed that he has been off his face for ages

I wasn't. Simply the worst act to even make it to the final 12...ever.

agreed but it makes for good TV

I disagree, last year was fucking awful and I lost interest very quickly.
This year there are atleast 6 acts that could potentially win it.

Yeah i think this year is much better! Got to say it that danyl is a bloody good singer! Simon Cowell was nearly creaming his pants

Apart from Danyl they are a bunch of embarrassing wankers.
Cant believe some of the comments made to him, he should walk it, but probably wont.

if someone comes along and shoots the both of them on a show...then yes it's, good live TV, but not them singing.

I see the Twat Twins are STILL in the competition.

And what the hell was Whitney Houston on?

the twins have got to win. it would be absolutly hilarious.

Same Stuff as Robbie Williams ? There is a theme starting to emerge here

I don't watch this but have read and heard about these twins and I heard a rumour that for each week they are kept in, Louis Walsh will kill a member of Boyzone.

I actually thought Cheryl was rather good though? at least she sang live

They are clearly as shit as me on Singstar.  And they have Troll hair. But imagine how dull and mundane the program would be without them. With them it's car crash telly. So bad its good.

I actually watched an entire episode the other day. The rest can sort of sing, but I can't remember their names or any redeeming features. The show needs the twins!


Really. I thought it was rather weak. I wonder if they had her voice running through a studio box to keep it in tune? Anywho,  she is well nice until she opens her gob to speak/sing. 

my only complaint ref Cheryl was it was a tad Kylie copycat esque?? outfits and dancers etc 

Ricky was ming and deserved to go - Twins wont go till about week 4/5 I reckon - not unlike that awful brother/sister thing last year

Weren't they called Incest?

Mind you, when the trolls did their hammy acting on Saturday I thought they were going to kiss!

On a side note - Ive decided watching Xfactor recorded is the way forward - managed to do the whole Sunday show in 10 minutes after getting back from Lee Mack
Cheryl/Whitney/result

Thats all I needed!!! minus all the adverts and faff 

i agree, i dont know why they have to make the results on sunday stretch to an hour episode

I would.

Ashley Cole must be nuts playing away from home

Why look at the Cole face when you're poking his wife.

Ask him to watch from behind.

Erm, Cheryl Cole need to loose that lazy Geordie accent.  It's not like a nice Geordie accent to have it's just whiney and needy sounding.

Eugh Ashley Cole is a vile ming

If I was Cheryl I would marry the hottest bloke in the world - just cause I could!!  :nod:

Im not loving her new Loreal shampoo advert much though!

Olly to win! Quirky and a little different!

Jamie Afro, Danyl or Stacy won't be too bad though :D

Im with you on that Luci - There the ones I like too

Says in Heat Olly is dating one of Project A who did make it through to the finals - boooo hes a cutey!

Stacey or Lucy for me

Oh my god I need to spend some time with my areobics examiner to go through some stuff before an Exam and hes left me a voicemail suggesting to meet on Sat after his current course -has finished but then added in total seriousness "I will need to be home in time for Xfactor!! - Oh my god hes like a 40 year old bloke!

I just sent hima text telling him to man up!!  :D

Just when you think you've seen it all, you get the bloody Twins doing She Bangs on Big Band Week !!

Instead of voting to keep you favourite, can't we vote who we want out for one week to get rid of those useless Twins.

I like them, they're entertaining and a laugh to watch

And it makes a complete mockery of the programme, which is great!

It does and it doesn't. It's a talent contest but at the same time it's the public who put the contestants through. Someone's voting for them.

If people who watch are annoyed that they're still in the competition then they're really annoyed with the format of the programme itself.

Yup. Get rid of the totally flat "fly me to the moon" guy. And shoot Stacey, she's like Janet Street Porter on speed whenever she talks.

The girl who sang 'My Funny Valentine' was good. Although I may be biased as I absolutely love that song.

that someone is the whole of ireland...fair play to the lads, a lot of people would have thrown in the towel by now, even if they have been put through to the next rounds, the amount of stick they get isnt really fair,
and as sam says, it makes a mokery out of the show, keep em in i say

Well, the whole of northern Ireland. ROI residents can't vote.

Either way, impossible though it is, wouldn't it be brilliant if Cowell had to hand them a record contract for winning. Sadly I think they'll be gone this week or next.

Irish people can't vote can they?

Is that the Essex bird? She does a weird gasping for air thing when she talks.

Louis Walsh has been told that if John and Edward stay in this week another member of Boyzone gets it.

heres hoping

I have a new gripe with the X factor... or Sky+... I'm not really sure, but when you walk into a room and your housemate has paused a close up of Cheryl Cole's face/rack and he's wanking on your preferred sofa, you need to be annoyed at something

I would so love to wank over Cheryl Cole's rack...

So, did you finish him off?

He sat down and joined him.

Did he get a hob nob out and lay down a biscuit challenge?

You lot are ming!! hahahaha!

Really wound me up this weekend - Prob cause I watched it live rather than on Sky plus so had to sit through the whole show - I always find big band week REALLY boring - Never mind those bloody twins - get rid of all the shit boring people like Rachel and Lloyd - they are never gonna win it - they should be in the bottom 2 not Daniel!!!!

Does anyone else think Stacey reminds them of a creature comforts animal?? Its her funny mouth!!

I can't understand how people genuinely find this programme entertaining? Its effectively a glorified karaoke evening unneccesarily spread out over months and months. The end product being an individual or group that can't write songs or play any instruments clogging up the charts with utter dross.

I would be tempted to watch if the contestants had to write their own songs and play some instruments, at least show some sort of talent other than singing watery Boyzone covers.

Each to their own and all that but this shows popularity baffles me, I would rather watch youth hostelling with Chas and Dave.

I enjoy seeing peoples dreams smashed live on TV and the emotion that follows from these hollow deluded fools.  That and Cheryl’s rack of lamb.

I nearly wet myself when that potato headed Eoioinoin (sp) ran onto the stage in tears during the last series when the permanently nasally congested Diane Vickers was booted off.

All in all it’s a load of bollocks but makes for good background noise.

I can't really explain why I enjoy it, it's weird, as I don't give a shit who goes, or who wins, and have no intention of ever voting or buying the winners albums.
But I can't stop watching it.

I would love a job on the production team of X factor and The X-tra factor. Its pure piss taking at its best. They must say "right, lets see what we can make these cunts do this week" Pure brilliance.

Linke Ginghino said i dont watch it to see who wins or to vote off the worst one. I just love the piss take.

Did anyone see last nights xtra factor and the fat bird who was stalking louis walsh? Brilliant! Why would anyone want to embarress themselves that much on national tv?  Genius show.

they're all pretty shit, and none of them will make it big i reckon.

It depends by what you mean big i think that olly will not have to go back to his old job,he will more than likely cut it in musicals in west end shows rather than being pop star.

But i agree i doubt any of them will make it like leona did.

by big i mean i think the winner will go the way of the scottish lad whos name i forget and steve brookstein.ie one hit then dropped by the record label.

I can't argue with that,I can't remember who was in that series when that leon jackson won it but im sure there were better singers.I think you can blame all the scots voting for him just like they did with that big over weight mcmanus girl who won what i think was then pop idol.

oh yeah i forgot about her.fat sympathy votes only got her so far.

I see the Irish warblers Westlife have been lying about their new 'original' song, when they performed it on X Factor last night. It's another bloody cover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylgchWR-Ig

They should be punished by having the Irish twins join them.

I see in the Sun today, the terrible Irish twins finished top in the voting.

Apparently Louis' phone bill is massive.

ooooooooooooooooh I thought that Westlife song was a cover!!
They used it as the song when people were getting kicked out didnt they? at judges houses?

Is it wrong that I like it a little bit  :-[

I knew it was a cover, its from a film but cant remember which one!

Its wrong that you like Westlife's version and not Daughtry's (who incidentally did not win American Idol, but really should have).

That is a disgrace, it is disgusting, they are soooooo shit its untrue. I would really like to punch them both in the face,  >:(

As im sure you can tell, i really like them!

I love it how a lot of people are saying they should have been put down at birth. Idiots.

http://www.goodshepherdonline.com/youth/st.%20patrick%20leprechaun%20twins.htm

Looks like theyve found god.

That probably could take a bit too far...

I like the fact that the more and more people get wound up, the more votes they will get

WTF is Cheryl Cole wearing ?

Nevermind that, what about the worst cover version of Guns N' Roses.

Absolutely-and all the judges fucking loved it!

i'm voting for jedward just to piss every other fucker off.they are utter shite but who cares.
the facebook updates i read about them are more stupid than those irish bellends.

danyll is completely out of tune.

Danyl's doing his best of wrecking an Aerosmith track.

Is it me-or is this bloke totally out of tune?

.....obviously not

they are all diobolical apart from the black grace jones like girl.

I'm watching this shit (to steal a JFWism sick mouth, little bit etc)

What utter utter rubbish. I'm genuinly digusted with myself.

a quid to vote?
fuck that.....

then dont watch it, and dont talk about it.

I am not anymore.

I've re-located my balls.

I hope Mong & Deadwood go tomorrow night.

Stacey Solomans & Olly were probably the best 2 acts tonight

well that's the most talented one given the boot.the show is a joke.
jedward to win, then hopefully that will end the show for good.

Its definately going down hill..... it wasn't even very good before!

I agree with this, prehaps them winning would mean we never have the the drivel again.

We can hope anyway

I've always said that people should be voting to get rid of, a bit like Big Brother.

The Twins are simple the worst act to ever get to the final 12 on any X Factor. I don't think they've sung a song in tune...yet, and they murdered 'We Will Rock You' yesterday.

Maybe we should start a TEF voting group just to keep them in. I don't watch it and haven't seen them, but i do know it would be funny to make someone universally disliked win.

Fucking hell there still alive then? Bugger.

I should think Louis Walsh enjoyed the spit roast last night anyhow.

They get booed by the studio audience everytime they are announced !!

The only people that get wound up by the twins are the people that take X Factor seriously.

Im actually glad Rachels gone - I mean she was never gone win it anyway and she did my head in a bit

I see The Screws at the weekend leaked that Cowell planted the Twins into the competition and has positioned them in such a way so that people are backing them.  It’s a lot of old horse shit and far removed from the uncomfortable but entertaining days of Man Mountain Rick Waller and dirty fat ginger Scotch Egg Michelle McBreadcrumbedAnus sweating away on stage.  On a side note I’d like to see those two mating. 

In fact I think they swapped the voting system around as Waller had such a dedicated following there was a T’Internet campaign to systematically vote out the other contestants each week so he won.

It's the Nasty Nick thing again isn't it?

Once he left people realised he was better entertainment. They won't win, I don't know why people are getting their knickers in a twist.

I'd love it if they won though, I've been tuning in every week since I found out how funny they are. Previously I'd avoid the show like the plague.

I think its a bit out of order how much stick two 17 year olds are getting!!

Fair play to 'em.

I would boo them at a pub karaoke night - they are really abmismal and very embarrassing. They must go next week.

They are 17 year old kids, who deep down must know they are not very good. It's not their fault they keep getting saved. The amount of vitriol being thrown there way is very bad - there public enemy number one at the age of 17. Fair play to 'em.

I don't care about x-factor but i want them to win. Not just because i feel sorry for them, but i also believe the British public would genuinley explode should they win

I've got no idea what any of you are talking about thank God but I find it inherently unlikely that anyone would explode as a result of a not very talented talent competition. Although if they did, I can't help but think it would improve the gene pool no end.

i'm just disappointed that little cunt stayed in.

They have a thick skin, all the publicity does though is encourange people to vote for them, and they are probably the most popular contestants as well as they are in the paper's nearly everyday, it is in X Factors interest for them to still be in the show as it increases viewing figures all the time.

Simon Cowell is not a stupid man either, he knows very well his comments get reported and people will unfortunetly vote to wind him up thus in the process making his show more money.

Spot on.

X-Factor is fixed. Its all to do with money and ratings.

I presume by saying the "British public would genuinely explode", you mean that they'll mention it to a few friends over a beer, consider starting a Facebook group or online petition, then within 10 minutes remember they're almost too lazy to breathe, forget about it and go back to wallowing in apathy? ;)

Exactly!!

I heard on the radio today that thanks to Joe's rendition of Journey's Don't Stop Believin', it'll probably re-enter the charts in the top 10 this week.  8)

Rachel Obadeyi has just been interviewed on GMTV, and she's like a completely different person in 'real life'. Right little livewire!

Copying Staceys personality again??

that rachel has been asked to join the old sugarbabes, who are reforming. Mutyah and the other one. Not sur what they'll be called, though, given the sugababes is now already taken.

Sugafreebabes !!!

Sugar Baby ?

Sugalumps.

Breastarama.

Wobble knockers

I like Wobble Kncokers. I think it could work

Sugababes X

Isn't that how Liberty X got around the fact there was already a group/band called Liberty?

Candarelles

Jedward are in the bottom two.

Please judges...vote them out !!!

Nooooo Jedward!

Lloyd is miles worse than JEdward.

At least Lloyd can sing a note. The Irish twins cannot.

Can he?! He fackin shit. Sore throat my arse. At least they try and entertain!

I don't think he'll last much longer anyway. There are much better singers in the competition than him, but get these terrible twins off the competition.

Yes!!

Safe!

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!

Complete bollox....i wont watch it anymore...its worse than fukin cheating Eurovision.

I never watched it anyway and never have. It's always been total bollocks designed to cream the public of money but sadly people still watch it.

Smart bit of tactical voting Simon. Kerching!

What is Jedward?

Love them or hate them, the Twins make great TV hence why Simon kept them on, Simon Cowell could have voted them off, but people tune in to see how bad they will be next week. He owns the X Factor. The Twins = Ratings!

The voice of sanity. I despair at the amount of people engrossed by this.

I thought their GHOSTBUSTERS song last night was ace!

Simon Cowell = Pure genius.

Think of the publicity he will get now! Then get more cash.

Facebook has just gone mental soapy tit wank :) I hate the Twins but what a cracking move by Simon Cowell!

In 50 years from now, sociologists will write books about the general public's present obsession with 'celebrity'/mediocrity.  Most of these people are simply famous for having been on TV last week.  Talent?  Not a prerequisite.  Depressing.

Pure genius?...it aint rocket science.....greed being the word ide use.

My housemates are both literally doing their nut, I pointed out this was quite sad of them and this only provoked more anger.

Leefer, i'm not having a dig.
But is there any reason you put an 'e' on the end of words like i'm and i'd etc?

Cowell gets it both ways.......be everywhere in media & one less half decent act to go against his.

i'd put it down to being a clever businessman myself.

It's his show. He knows the longer he keeps them in the more viewers he will get.

hahaha what a load of bollocks it is.last week the best singer went, and tonight one of the other better ones went because she is talented and more beautiful than those who vote on the pathetic programme.
that daft womble loooking bird gets votes because she is thick.the lads because the girls fancy them.and jedward because they wind up loads of people.cowell showed himself up tonight as totally manipulating the whole jedward farce.they are fucking awful.

Bingo!


Especially when the Stay Puffed marshmallow man came on!
----

I think it is funny as fuck people get upset that the result has been manipulated. The whole show is about trying to manipulate the public into choosing the right people to go through isn't it?

Stay Puft was awesome....one must remember, does it really matter who wins? JLS have done ok. Havent heard anything about the jock who won???

Besides its only about the 4 judges bickering amongst each other. I actually feel sorry for the contestants who are used in the game of one up man ship amongst the judges. OH well.

hahahahahaha how funny was that last night!!

Lucys face when she was up against the twins - she thought "ace Im through"
Then as Simon started swaying her face just dropped as I think she knew the public vote would go against her!

she was dull as dishwater and never going to win anyway - I think its fairer that the looser should go on the public vote anyway rather than the judges!

she is fit though :( Simon loved the fact he had the power to make the nation go nuts!

I have a new found respect for Cowell!

me too, all he wanted to do was create a little chaos! Im all for it!

new respect for cowell? I thought last night was a crock of shit. I like X-factor, but thought last night was a farce. Not sure if I'll watch the rest of the series now, Cowell fucked me right off.

see the thing is I dont give a hoot either way about Jedward really? every year there is someone shit who everyone hates - like last year there was that insest brother and sister?

People like Lucy are DULL DULL DULL and are never going to win anyway so who cares - she thought she was ace and got on my nerves. Anyone who likes her that much should have voted for her then she wouldnt have been in the bottom 2 

exactly how i felt. all through the series he has complained about them yet being all fucking smug knowing his acts are safe he takes it to the public vote.

just fucking get rid of them. yes Lucy may not have won but at least she can sing unlike cock face and cock face

lucy might not of won JFW, but she had more talent than those two c*nts. It's beyond a joke now. I actually thought Lucy had a great voice, and Cowell knew exactly who was going out when he took it to 'lock down'. Lucy also knew.

He needed to man up, grow a pair of bollocks and kick the twats out. They've had their 5 kminutes of fame, now fuck off and let those that can sing get oin with competition.

I won't be watching it anymore this series. Cowell might have done that to keep viewing figures high, but he's lost me. Shame, I was really enjoying it too.

Farce.

Nothing wrong with taking it to the public vote although I was a bit distressed that John and Edward we’re even in the bottom two in the first place.

The one thing I love about the X-Factor is seeing these poor self deluded idiots have their dreams smashed to pieces on live TV and John and Edward add a bit of flavour to the mix.  The ignominy of going out before the pair of them makes it all the sweeter and especially when that arrogant uphill gardener gets the boot.

Fully agree Juddie.

He's a bit of a hypocrit, as he started saying that the contestants who are in the sing off, will be judged on their performance in that sing off, and between Lucie and Jedward, the performances are like chalk and cheese, with the twins being their normal uselessness.

I think just about every week the judges have forced the vote to go to the public vote, so what is the point of the judges having a vote if they always go to deadlock.

The amount of people who say they won't watch but actually do next week!

Do you really think Juddie?

She had the personality of a soft cornflake and the attempts to try and copy Stace the badger’s Essex verbal stutter was embarrassing.  Taking it seriously for a moment I thought the song she sang on Saturday was bland, boring and there’s a better pop tart left in the competition in old badger face Stace.

She was never going to win so he made the right call.

she might be bland, but she can sing, and it's a singing competition. I agree the song she sang was poor, but I'm not too clued up on the jonas brothers type stuff, so didn;t really get it. You trying to tell me her rock song was shit, or the week before that? Really? Yeah she seemed to be copying stacy's personality, and that Rachel got caught out doing the same, but she looked the part, she copuld sing and that ultimately makes her infinitely better than Jedward. Don't get me wrong, I can see why they've been getting through with the young vote, but enough's enough. It's a singing competition and they can't sing in tume/on time.

It's embarassing. If the show has to rely on those two cunts then it's in trouble.

They should never have made it to the final bit anyway, and they've no created a rod for their own back.

The show doesn;t need them, the other good singers are entertaining enough.

Just a farce. So you think Jedward can win? No, so why keep them in?

how can you say he made the right call over those two?

it's supposed to be a singing talent contest is it not?

not a biggest cunt award which those two twins would have won in week one

The only reason Lucy was in the bottom 2 is the vast majority of voters are teeny bopper girls who only vote for the ones they fancy, Lloyd is by far the worst performer in there how he got to the live shows is beyond me.  The fact that only 1 woman is left tells the story that little girls are just voting for the guys they like.  The show is not supposed to be about personality its supposed to be out of who is the best singer, for me Lucy could of potentially won she has an excellent voice.

No.

Its all about making money isnt it.

Still hoping for the twins to get assasinated.

forgot about Lloyd. he can't sing at all. but as you say cos he's young and sweet looking the young girls all vote for him.

it's quite annoying

What's embarrassing is that people are prepared to lose money making the phone calls to vote for those two plonkers. Even more embarrassing that I watched both programmes on Saturday and Sunday, wtf.

fair point

So am I...along with Louis !!

Undoubtedly, otherwise they would have one week, with the winner being who gets the most votes.

Also, that's the reason why the results programme has been delayed until the day later, so people can have more time to vote.

It is all about money, but surely they don't need two goons on there to make that money do they? If they do, then the show has a short future.

Jedward have had their time, so lets move on. It's a singing contest, and watching Leona Lewis last night proved it does work. Not my cup of tea, but she's talented and has sold millions worldwide. Would Jedward? They'd be a laughing stock if they released anything. Would Lucy? Maybe, she looks like a star and she has a great voice IMO.

fuck the twins off and let them do eurovision, enough's enough. Farce.

Like I say, that's it for me. Back to socialising on a saturday!

If they are pulling in ratings and votes then they are doing a good job, regardless of talent or lack there of.


I reckon anyone could sell worldwide with the X-Factor media bandwagon behind them.

No, but he is making sure he gets the most £££ coming in. Think of the column inches and publicity this is bringing to a tired old show. Think of the extra phone votes by the outraged to get them off, and for those who think it is funny to keep them on.

And I'd imagine they'll pull in a few more viewers - car crash TV it may be, but we all want to see it!

The general public are just waking up to the fact that reality TV shows really are like Ben Eltons (slightly dull) book Chart Throb.

BTW: Wasn't trying to patronise you, it's just your post gave me the perfect springboard to gob off at the stupid people who update their facebook status in outrage (i hope that isn't anyone here!).

edit: beaten by DV!

A couple of years ago Ireland entered a puppet, so they couldn't do any worse.

I remember a few years ago with Chico, and having a go at him. At least he had a bit of charisma, but the twins don't even have that.

Cowell said they cannot sing. Well you would've thought the judges would have spotted that before Louis put them in his final 3.

As Juddie says, at the end of the day it is a singing contest, and compared to the other artists, the twins cannot sing in tune. By the way, a nice dig at them by Dannii last night.

sorry

 :-[

soapy tit wank. Hang your head in shame Fred :)

The only thing worse than someone who updates their status to include something about the X-Factor is someone who updates it 3 times to include something about the X-Factor.

I was angry

I think I can remember calling Cowell something like "cheating cunt" on there last night.

I was a tad drunk

:) Next you'll be claiming he already knows the phone vote results before they vote the person off!

'we all want to watch them?!'

 I don't and I won't.

Personal preference isn't it... I guess the beauty of it is that you can always turn over. I doubt many will stop watching it, but for me the whole thing was ruined last night.

I wouldn't say it's a tired show, though. That so many people watch it proves it. I think the artists that win it will do well, and I enjoy watching the judges, on the whole. It's only Louis who's sh*t.

Just a shame we have so many wankers in this country voting for the wankers. I'm assuming they're the same people chucking coins from the away end on Saturday.

Never actually felt strong enough to vote for anyone on X-Factor myself.

I think the show is genius. You get millions to spend money to vote for their favourite, then they release a records which millions buy. Then they go on tour so millions can pay to see them. Then Cowell buys another yacht while the 'star' performer vanishes into obscurity in time for the next cycle - with the exception of Leona Lewis and Will Young.

My point is I've always seen it as a money making machine rather than a fair talent contest. I mean, how many very good singers don't even get to be auditioned by the main judges at the expense of the freaks and clingers? The whole thing as a talent contest is flawed from day 1.

Rest assured J & E's days must be numbered. I'd be surprised if they make it past the next vote.

Hmm rumours to be beleived he was in discussion with producers during the advert brake's and decided then what to do, didn't he say something like I got slated for going to public votye last week so I'll do it again - the trouble is Cowell dosen't care, I'm sure he has plans for the twins, probably some comedy angle somewhere, after all the weeks he slates them he's conveniently not bothered if they leave, it certainly sounds like a stitch up for poor Lucy.

I'm more annoyed with myself that I'm so f*cked off with it! It's only a bloody TV programme. Come Dine with me annoyed me as well.

:) I sometime shout at the TV.  Though apparently "they can't blood hear you"

jedward will make cowell money no matter how shit and irritating they are.the welsh bird who can sing and is stunning looking was never going to win.women wont vote for he and will stick with the dumb essex girl or pretty boys.cowell knows this so keeps jedward in to keep the publics attention.al the facebook updates last night i read were all about the show.cowells tactics work a treat

Cowell made money out of Zig and Zag, and Robson and Jerome, so he thinks the can make money out of them also.

Hahahahaha loving the anger outpour!

Also loving sky news interview Chico about his feeling towards it!! remember when everyone hated him???

Dont worry people Im sure JEdward will soon be peddling there wares round Butlins with Chico and same difference

Ever since That untalented Danni Minogue and bimbo Cheryl Cole joined X Factor it's been about one thing. THE JUDGES, gettting one up on people, Cowell knew that Lucy was a fairly decent singer in the mould of say Avril Lavigne, Rock chick mould. Jedward won't win. He was being tactful to make sure he won, Keep Lucy in this week she likely survives 2 weeks thus beocming a threat to his ego when one of his singers goes. Lloyd or Joe will go next week. Both untalented gits who get through due to the teenybopper vote. No one is out to find the "next big singer" its an entertainment show, Its about the judges getting one up on each other, hence Simon says "I still have all 3", etc. etc. The singers are merly a pawn in a game of one-up-man ship chess and egotism amongst the judges!

Danyl, cocky as hell but by far the best singer on the show won't even finish in the top 3.

I think that's a little unfair, look at Leona & Alexandra both came from X Factor and Leona is a hit worldwide and Alexandra is doing well, the judges part is just Cowell being smug and trying to inject a bit of humour, this years quota as nowhere near as good as previous years, if as predicted Olly wins then he will not have long career, probably 1 album and it will be goodbye, I think it will be the same for whoever wins though.

I think this year Cheryl has not been as on the ball with her acts, but the same could be said for Danni last year and this year she has come back fighting, the one I question is Louis Walsh, the bloke is annoying and has been for the last few years, his wise cracks aren't even funny anymore.

I agree, that bloody programe seems to always be on!

If that stacey bird was any good at singing she wouldn't need a reality TV show anyway. Even if she was half decent someone will lob a record deal at her.

X-factor is shit, and has ruined this nation.

If John & Edward released a cover version of Let's Get Ready To Rumble I would buy it.

i think she's quite fit  :/

i bet she goes like a rocket, cant take the essex out of the girl and all that....

The whole jedward saga is blatantly simon cowell engineering a john sargent from strictly controversy to whip up public support for his fading programme format. All these plebs getting really upset at how they are treated/how untalented they are are simply just drones getting pulled along by his media machine.

Every act that has anything to do with any talent programme are just soul-less puppets. just look at every winner of these competitions ever, will young, the fat one, leona, alexandra they are all just plastic copies of proper talent like those "top of the pops" lps from woolworths.

pretending there is some unique X factor is just the emperors new clothes

Don't get dragged into it

I read today that cowell was made aware of the twins long before the series started. Talent show with spontaneous auditions to find the nations next big pop act?
I think not.

youve only just realised this??

also how is it, when they do the auditions and they randomly interview people these are the ones that get put through etc. apart from the occasional shit one.

X-Factor amuses me.

Tans, no...see below my post on this forum from early october.


"Also, after reading chart throb by ben elton, cant take any of it seriously any more - have you ever thought its funny that the acts that make it to the final just happen to be covered in detail in the early stages, e.g. footage of them walking up to the audition centre, footage of them waiting in the waiting area etc etc. Its makes you wonder if just perhaps they are all selected beforehand....hmm, I wonder?!"


I am in no doubt all ten finalists are selected beforehand from some quirk or other on their application form, the only difference with the twins is that I got the impression from the article I read was that they were singled out for cowells direct attention early on.
How the guy has the gumption to carry on like he does is beyond me - he is shameless.

sorry, i couldnt be arsed to read all the thread

http://www.funnyordie.co.uk/videos/44d1c3ea70/simon-cowell-s-tv-debut

Sad sad people who ring up and complain. Over 3000 of them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8352223.stm

i eagerly await the greatest band in historys songs being sang by the contestants.not :doh:

I'm watching it tonight to see if I can understand what all the fuss is about. Cheryl Cole is so mint.

Think this Jamie is going to be in trouble soon, just don't like the sound of his voice.

Is it Stones night?

Why does everyone hate Jedward then, fill me in (oi oi)? That was mint!

beats me, i think they are ace.

was as diobolical as i expected it to be.they are all utter shit, and it only highlighted how fucking awesome freddie mercury was.

Yes a person to really admire as a singer but not as a person.

eh?

Great singer but a bit too promiscuous given his condition - allegedly.

i have no idea?
i'll stick to being in awe of his musical genius

Fair play - he was a bit special as a singerand I don't quite think anyone did him justice tonight - Stacey being the best of a bad bunch.

Hopefully Lloyd will go!

Did anyone see Calvin Harris running on to hte stage during the John & Edward performance holding a pineapple above his head?

Yeah saw that...couldnt belive it was Calvin Harris!

Stacey and Olly the best for me - was not impressed with Afro man or Lloyd tonight.  Lloyd has about as much personality as a teabag.

I hate saying it but I found Jedward quite good last night!  (Not in terms of a tribute to how amazing Queen were) but in terms of entertainment and the vanilla ice rap haha. 

Cheryl Cole always looks amazing but I just dont get some of the outfits they put her in!  Probably to ensure she doesn't completely outshine Dannii.

Charity is no excuse for crap music

I totally agree - I liked afro dude but he was poor on Sat
I feel so sorry for Stacey why do they insist keep putting her in dresses that make her look 5 foot wide!
God now we have Im a celeb to keep up with as well!

Perhaps its because she is 5 foot wide.

Have you got your TV in the wrong aspect ratio? She looked OK to me, and mercifully they managed not to let her talk too much.

Damn! Did I miss Housemartins night then?  :D

It's OK, Susan Boyle is on next week. Hopefully DMRs flatmate won't be caught with Sky+ on freeze frame knocking one out to her rack!

Talking of Susan Boyle, I think it was Russell Howard who came up with the solution to the middle east crisis. Tie her to the bottom of a helicopter, fly her over Iraq/Afghanistan with the slogan "not all virgins are lookers".

I saw someone run onto the stage but didnt realise it was Calvin Harris! classic! Ive been a tiny bit in love with him ever since he was on never mind the buzzcocks the other week and he told a funny story about how he used to work in a bakery and he made shoes out of hollowed out loaves!!

Shame he didnt twat the cunts whilst he was on the stage, wouldve made cracking tv.

I saw the X Factor finalists kill Michael Jackson's "you are not alone" and not even credit MJ for singing it!

Rockers have limited shelf life anyway on X Factor etc... Tabby who by far is the best contestant ever on X Factor never won either.

Are you going to the memorial service for it, Gaz?

:D

Fookin right son! :D

gazza, we get it, you dream about getting bummed by jacko every night, give it a rest mate, its getting boring

if Jacko hadn't done him up the Gary Glitter by the time he was 10 it wasn't going to happen.

Wasn't even Jackson's song anyway. Another alleged paedo wrote it.

one can live in hope

YYYEEESSS !!

Jedward have gone at last !!!

Hated them but they were entertaining!

i bet viewing figures plummet now.

maybe among the 5-13 year old female population KOT, but not the rest of the nation!

Competition will be shit now. Their Ghostbustsers skit with Stay Puft marshmallow man was ace!

I'll be quite happy not seeing those silly quiffs, and Louie going on about them, and most of the population will as well.

At the end of the day, anyone who couldn't sing could go on there and make a fool of themselves, can be entertaining, but the fact they were so obnoxious during the audition stages, they should have been booted out then.

naah that shit blonde twat is still in it. the one who really can't sing.

Make your mind up.

There's talk today, that Jedward could be replacing Jordan in the Jungle.

Poor animals !!

FFS that is just ridiculous, famous for 5 mins for not being able to sing although I supose jungle is full of z listers

Well they are two big tits with no brains......

Michael Jackson week this week!! LONG LIVE THE KING!!!!!!! :D

Wish i was Michael Jacksons doctor

X Factor has never been my cup of tea, but i've just seen my first episode of the series and have to say that the standards are a new low... That Joe lad would have not made the final 10 in series past, and told to concentrate on West End shows. Truly awful TV.

stacey was shit too, shame i liked her.

hopefully danyl will win, he can actually sing

This is vomit-inducing.My missus loves it!I heard "We Can Work It Out" absolutely strangled and then described as a "Stevie Wonder song"

Me too. Then he'd have to sing the "Hannah Montana" winners song.

By far the best singers are that Stacey (who murdered the way you make me feel tonight) and that bloke with the afro. Must say though it has been a dick waving competition between the judges and none more so than this year,

Problem with Danyl is he will be another Steve Brookstein becuase people dont seem to like him due to his cockiness (yes i know people voted to keep him in but look at Brookstein now playing Pizza Express)

the afro bloke was turd, he went a few weeks ago

stacey is nothing special vocally, same as olly

i don't care whether the person who wins sells records, i want either rick waller or the best singer to triumph

I didnt realise it being Michael Jackson week on X Factor meant that Lady Gaga was to be as pale as him :L

Some twat left my TV on ITV, which meant I caught 15 minutes of X-Factor tonight. I feel used and dirty now.

Do you have to get the Mrs' help to change the channel?

Can I just say how much I love Ga Ga?!

I want to dress as a robo-cat and dance around in a big bath full of zombies! ace!

Can you do it at half time some game. It'll be better than the robinettes. Probably.

only if the players can be my bath zombies!?

I just dont get her. But im starting to think im the strange one as everyone else is raving about her

To be honest I wasn't a fan until I saw her live she has an amazin voice really powerful and I guess I just admire the oddness a bit! I'd take one lady gaga over a thousand bland Leonas!
As for Janet Jackson hmmmmmmm

the best thing to happen to janet jacksons career was her brother dying

Haha, I said the exact same thing to the wife last night. The whole lot of them are cashing in.

Anyone going to help make Rage Against The Machine number 1 at xmas. Im tempted.

Yup!

What's this about RATM, I've not heard anything?

Don't worry, I've just enlightened myself. I'm definitely game for that.

I agree, live she is great.
Janet jackson was crap last night. If seh is going to mime you'd think she'd get her mouth in sync with the words

Pokerface?

You bet I would!

she was too busy looking at the man in the mirror

Even though she is getting paied all that money, she cant even do something that straight forward, i mean its as easy as ABC.

Rubbish. Joe and George should've done Club Tropicana.

George made Joe rise to the occasion, apparently.

After tonight there is only one winner and that's Olly. Bloody awesome!

Olly is the most entertaining.
Joe is a good singer, but not exciting or entertaining.
I can't decide if Stacey is attractive or not, she looks a bit like a caricature.

she's a fucking womble.

Myself and my flatmate are signed up. I don't expect it to work but it's worth it for how much it is/will annoy Cowell.

Yup I'm in for definite now. How much are single downloads? 70p?

Im sure the X Factor normally finishes a week later than this normally ...

This early finish and therefore early release of the winner's single could mean that this RATM plan may actually work :P

Whoever chose the winners song is an absolute waste :L

That would be Simon Cowell...

who won?

Olly

at last some actual talent on the show.

no-one...Paul McCartney just been voted through to the final !!!

with that singing he would have got voted off

you mean he didnt sound like a fucking sing it by numbers fucking cabaret cruise liner singer?

The Geordie won ...

Right, time to get buying RATM then...

He looked like Kenny Dalgleish's gran (I'm guessing)

Let's hope she can find a new job after Christmas then.

I've just downloaded RATM. Cheapest is on Amazon for 29p if people are bothered about the price. Play.com is 65p but don't buy off Itunes as the cunts have put it up to 99p. Clever dicks.

I noticed loads of people are trying to make RATM number 1, i have no care for the charts but find this funny. How do i do it and surely you have buy closer to xmas?

Buy it as of today.  Christmas number 1 is the one before christmas day.  Sales from today count until sunday.  Just buy it at itunes or whatever.

Yeah get involved

I bought it :)

Don't buy the 29p one on Amazon though, doesn't count towards the chart if it's less than 40p.

They do, it's dealer price - Amazon make a loss on it or something. All I know is they do count.

Link to confirm (http://www.amazon.co.uk/tag/mp3/forum/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx28IXQIV6LBRU4&cdMsgNo=24&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx3U7MN4WDHUQUA&cdMsgID=Mx1V43X5O8FDTWD#Mx1V43X5O8FDTWD)

:)

Fuckers, I was told it didn't and spent 99p on iTunes. Oh well, it's only 70p :)

Purchased from Amazon. Just clicked it on expecting to be annoyed by the music, which i wasn't.

It's very teen-punk-pop-rock-rap, but i'm sure i've heard it before and it reminds me of being a rebellious BMX Bandit. :)

It's a classic. 17 years old as well, I still play the album in the car a fair bit.

Really? That's cool, I probably did hear it on a BMX video then! I used to like Sensor and all that crap back then... :)

Id rather buy an X Factor song that any Rage Against the Machine bollocks.

I'd rather it was Journey, but I'm a sheep

At the risk of being called a pedantic cunt again, its Senser not Sensor.

Pretty certain I saw then play live at Level 3 and they were excellent. Didn't think much of their album though.

The first RATM album is good though, with a couple of other stand out tracks.

Its almost as if you are following Barry around the forum disagreeing with him at the moment jonny

 :D It's not just me being paranoid then.

I will be buying the rage against the machine single. It's in the lead at the moment so hopefully it can stay there http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8413557.stm. I would love it if was number one, love it! It would be the best Christmas number one of all time.

Considering 19 million people watched the final, and over 10 million voted it is more than likely going to be number one unfortunately.

I don't like Xfactor or that shouty song? Is there an alternitive??

buy neither? Give the money to charity?

Buy the rage song anyway. You don't have to listen to it, it's only 29p and it would annoy Simon Cowell. There's no downside.

Rage campaign is raising money for Shelter at the same time, so donate 79p to that instead http://www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas.

Not much chance of Rage staying on top, but it's good fun all the same.

Think I will just be a stig and buy nothing!!

I look forward to your fast laps of the county ground carpark.

Do Ugg boots double up as racing shoes?

Not that stig! Stig is a calne word for a poor person!!

It was an attempt at humour which obviously failed. My bad.

I will confess to being unsure and convinced you were doing it to get me to explode. I'm amused, not annoyed. Good shot. :)

Well that's far from the first time that one of my attempts at humour on an internet forum has gone straight over everyone's heads. I believe the main flaw in my humour is the lack of relevant smiley's, which I refuse to use as I don't understand them and due to them being extremely gay.

I was hoping you'd call me a fucking pedantic cunt so I could go again, but unfortunately you didn't and the run had to come to an end.

I wanted to, but I was feeling defeated so threw in the towel. And smileys are the answer to everything.

 8)

Rage against the Machine is beating X Factor to Christmas Number 1

http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48877

Rage are favourites on ladbrokes at the moment.

Really. I'd have thought now the x-craptor single is out in the shops sales will rocket past RATM. Unfortunately.

Hmm. A shit single that would never get to number if it wasn't for the huge publicity of a tv show, or...a shit single that would never get to number one if it wasn't for daft twats buying it to stop another shit single getting to number one.

Pointless.

I really wish someone had picked a nice christmassy song to go against X factor rather than a hidieous shouty one!

What's that got to do with anything? This is a shit single vs one of the best songs ever made, killing in the name of is an absolute classic.

Killing in the name of has sold 192,000 copies so far and has a lead of 60,000 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iKmmN1-xKB1GDnVnOeIuMP-VTMNA, so it definitely has a chance although it's likely to be very close.

How can anything that pisses off Simon Cowell be branded pointless?

Although, ironically, RATM are signed to a subsiduary of Cowell's Sony BMG. He wins either way.

It may be a classic to you. To me it's shit.

Pissing off Simon Cowell isn't high on my list of things to do, it's just not that important to me.

That is priceless! So Cowell's quids in whatever. Hahahahahaha, the daft twats look even more daft now.

Well said I totally agree!!

Simon Cowell doesn't own Sony BMG, he works for them - his label is part of Sony the same as RATM's label is.

So Cowell will be getting fuck all out of RATM.

I don't think the multimillionaire Simon Cowell will be that worried either way, the people that were going to buy the x factor single will still buy it.
 It may be a slight annoyance that he won't have the top spot, but he can just check his bank balance to cheer himself up.

Jonny is correct but it's not ironic or relevant anyway. The idea isn't to stop Cowell making money - he is hugely rich already and this isn't going to change that, it's not about that at all. It's to show that people are fed up with the same x factor shit ruining music with a conveyor belt of dull and talentless artists releasing boring, unoriginal rubbish and get a great song to Christmas number one for a change. It's also good for charity with Rage donating the money they make to help young UK musicians and a lot of money being raised for Shelter. All in all it's a great cause and deserves to be supported.

If it was a great song, then maybe, but it's god awful and I, for one, will not be buying that Rage Against The Machine crap or the X Factor single.
I won't lose any sleep either way and don't give a shit what's Xmas number one.

Itll probably be that old cunt cliff richard anyway

I thought most people were going to stop supporting X Factor after the 'Jedward fiasco'. Obviously not.

I didn't realise that the song was a cover of Miley Cyrus. On inspection of the wikipedia page it only reached number 11 in the charts.

On another note, Miley Cyrus is fit as fuck.

No, it's still a great song after 17 years and always will be. Often makes best of all time lists - no. 2 in this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_J_Hottest_100_of_All_Time,_2009 - good list too.

A wide audience then?


It's not on any of these lists though, including All-Time top rock songs:
all time hot 100 bill board songs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Hot_100_50th_Anniversary_Charts#All-Time_Hot_100_top_songs)

haha, a list of the most successful songs in the US charts, of course it's not going to be on there. The vast majority of songs in that list are terrible, it's too good to be on that list. The American public is one of the worst barometers of taste you could get.

FUCK YOU I WONT TIDY MY BEDROOM

shit song for teenagers, its as fucking gay as the x factor tune, wow arent we alternative we swear. fucking crusties.

The bookies have reopened betting on this I see... which is basically the biggest indication that X factor matey boy will win, as they've all got RATM at a pretty big price of 2/1 to coerce people into taking a punt. Nice idea though.

The Pet Shop Boys Christmas EP is the best Christmas song out there anyway...

I put some money on the twat from x factor to win when he was 2/1 so I win either way, I'd rather lose the bet though.

Last chance to buy killing in the name of today. It is very close between the top two now apparently. Lot of the money from the Rage single is going to charity and Rage will play a free gig in the uk if they get no. 1. I'm going to buy it now.

fuck that they should do a full on tour next year

I'm not too much of a fan of Rage, but still bought it.

They probably will but only 1 will be free. In fairness to them they still have to earn a living. Think it's a good gesture by them to donate some of the money from this to charity.

I compromised by buying the Rage track but not listening to it. Anything that annoys Cowell and the plastic shites who like XFactor is good with me

 :yawn:

This is the face of a man who couldn't give a fuck.

ditto

Charts closed last night at midnight, Joe has drifted out to 6/1 on Betfair.

I think this might actually have hapenned.

I demand that if RATM are number one, Radio One has to play the explicit version.

looks to me like its the face if a man who enjoys a good spuffing to me

One year it would be good if X Factor offered something a little different, maybe an original song for the winner to sing.

I know it was gash, but at least Fame Academy tried to inspire some originality. There is a lot more junk around than Lemar as well.

Nick Grimshaw played it the other day after the watershed.

Betting has now been suspended, with the X Factor song drifting out to 17-1 on the exchanges when they closed.

Looks like Killing In The Name is the Christmas number 1 then.

Rumour is that Rage have sold 52,000 more then Joe. Wouldn't be surprised if the figures are fiddled in favour of Cowell and Joe though.

Awwwww poor Joe.

ace, fuck off x factor.

both songs are shit.should have been the muppets for xmas no1

I've not bought of ever listened to rage against the machine but I'm glad its not another shitty flavour of the month x-factor cover track.

Love it! hahhahhahahhaha This is the best christmas number of all time by far. So good to have a talented band get it for once.

Except they're not that talented are they...

It's only a bit of a laugh really. I'm sure this Joe geezer will have a long and successful career anyway.

Morello is a genious on guitar.

i was always into RATM as a nipper, i always thought our current number 1 quite dull though.

this track's much better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu67yo-3jfw

Guerilla Radio please

i am your youtube slave sir

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eZAqMYat-0

Of course they're extremely talented, Morello is widely recognised as one of the most talented guitarists of all time and there are few better front-men than Zack de la Rocha. The rhythm section is also superb and they write great lyrics. You obviously don't know much about them.

You only say that because it was on Tony Hawk's

in musical theatre!!!

Anyways. RATM is far better than a kid singing a Miley Cyrus cover of all song choices!!!!

I blame the song choice!!!

i blame the goths

I blame Simon Cowell's mother for not staying a virgin

You're not wrong. I also refer you to Cyclone by the Dub Pistols.

And BWB, music is all about taste, not fact, so pivot you patronising cunt.

On the other hand, it is a fact that Miley Cyrus is fit as fuck.

minus the accent :D

You dont get that in wank bank photos

Dave, it doesn't matter what your taste is, it's silly to say they're not talented. There's plenty of musicians I don't particularly like but I've no problem in admitting they're talented. Morello got 26th on the rolling stone best guitarists of all time list, http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitarists_of_all_time/18 and considering he plays a different style to almost all the others and half of the ones above him are now dead to be that high out of 6.5 billion people shows an incredible amount of talent, especially compared to some muppet singing a cover of Miley Cyrus.

I don't think there's much point in contesting anything you say BWB, cos let's face it, what's the point? I don't think I've ever seen a post where you've even acknowledged someone else's point, never mind maybe accept it.

Would be easier to acknowledge your point if I knew what it was Dave.

That RATM are a bit shit :)

I don't really care that much.

Well think what you like, I'm just happy they're no. 1.

By that argument then are you saying that the muppet singing the Miley Cyrus ong is also talented then?

In your opinion, there is the opinion of course that they spout stupid 6th form revolutionary bollocks and are a second rate neds atomic dustbin

By rule of thumb is BWB thinks they are good - they arent.

Why, was he voted the 26th best guitarist of all time too?

A good rule of thumb to ensure you're always wrong about everything, I'd been wondering how you managed that.

Ben, buddy, I think they are winding you up.

Well Ned's were (and still are) the best!

ABC - Anyone But Cowell

Exactly!

Irritable Cowell Syndrome

I'm going to readily admit I jumped on a bandwagon and it was a bit of fun.

I really do like their first album though. I still haven't tidied my bedroom either. Motherfuckerrrrr.

i jumped straight on too si

reading that back im glad i spelt too instead of to :)

So am I.

I larfed.

What a wheeze.

But seriously, perhaps people are finally waking up to how much they have been had. Music should be about what you feel and think rather than how you have been manufactured. Love it.

If there was an auction to shit in Simon Cowell's mouth I would sell my house, woman and children (and even my motorbikes) to win that one.

At first i didn't like the RATM campaign but then I heard joes cover and the fact it was a Miley Cyrus track - not even a classic, made me realise the RATM bandwagon was worth it!

Plus it's more comfortable sitting on the bandwagon than the fence :D








But I do love Simon Cowell a bit.....

Denim?

You are having a laugh. No the denim jacket will be my death shroud. And the pockets will be full of cherry tomatoes.

ben, is it the same tom morello who reworked the x factor theme tune?

Id marry Cowell - theres something about him - other than his sizeable wallet

I have no symapathy for Cowell, but I do for the young lad. All he's tried to do is to sing, & although I don't particularly rate the song & it's not my prefered type of music he can certainly sing (unlike some of the contestants). The X factor may be "manufactured TV & all that, but it does give some ordinary people who have some talent a real break. Still regardless, if he is any good he'll survive now.
As for RATM my view is that it's aload of crap. (My opinion only granted).As for Morello being the 26th best guitarist of all time, that is truly laughable. Knofler is below him in that chart, & is/was way better.

Tom Morello is an amazing guitarist. Joe has stioll won X Factor and made a load of money. Im sure he is more than happy with that.

Oh yeah, poor guy. Making loads of money for winning a tv karaoke contest. He's not even written any of his own songs, of all the people in the world why sympathise with him? He's not doing anything original, he doesn't have a great voice and he covered a miley cyrus song which was only released last year anyway - it's a joke. He didn't even deserve to chart, let alone get no. 2 so he should count himself lucky. No way Knopfler is better than Morello either.

Bollox Phil....if you have any benevolance left spare it for the 1000's of bands and artists who slog away the old fashioned way in pubs and clubs trying to get their break (speaking from experience), or for 100 original artists for every one x factor puppet who go by the wayside since they weren't in the right place at the right time.

Why have any sympathy for someone who was hand picked for his looks, has had weeks of image consultants behind him, 6 months of shameless publicity, basically handed a huge hit single....

Oh boo hoo, poor little Joe never got his inherited right to xmas no. 1.

Welcome to the real world Joe.

buying a shit record to stop another one winning is a bit daft aint it?
you should buy it if you like it.simple as.

Killing in the Name of isn't shit though, that's the point.

Still not giving a fuck. But carry on the debate/winding BWB up.

oh yes it is.most of the people buying it wont even like it and that's stupid.at least those buying the x factor song will like what they are buying.

It's a classic, great song and I think the majority of people buying it will like it. A lot of the x factor sales will be unwanted presents so I expect far less people will actually like that. No-one's seriously going to be listening to the x factor song in a few months but the rage song will still be popular for years.

Give it up BWB. You think it's a classic, good for you.
Others think it's shit, so what.
It's all personal taste.

Olly should have won anyway  :)

There speaks the truth!

No I fancied Lucy. Her Voice was OK too !

The Christmas number one is supposed to be shit. Rage Against the Machine have ruined Christmas forever. I'm going to buy a copy and then burn it out of protest

Fiar enough if its a level playing field, but it ain't.

Its not about the song anyway...Rage song was chosen for its hook line...and as for the Xfactor song, do you really think the 450,000 people who bought it did so purely becasue they thought it was a great song? I doubt that very much...

anyway, I am guessing you really dont give a fuck, and are more interested in winding up BWB, however I thought I would put my two penneth in nontheless!

i dont give a fuck quite right.but i wasn't out to wind anyone up.
it's my viewpoint on the debate.
i have taken no interest in the charts since i was a kid.

answer me ben!!! Is it the same Morello who reworked the x factor tune they come on to?

Is that the line about not doing as you're told? I like the fact that people have done as they were told and bought Rage Against the Machine, in protest at being told what to do.

Yes, an Irony Maiden track, you could say

Well no one could find a song with the line...

"why dont we start a small light hearted campaign to try and stop the Cowell juggernaut from  monopolising the xmas no1 year after year with another dose of sentimental vacuous drivel, thus once again opening the platform to other other genuine artists to fairly contest the coveted spot..."

so rage had to do..

Genuine artists? Have you looked at who has held the Christmas number one spot in previous years? Bob The Builder, Mr Blobby. I don't know where this myth that the Christmas number one is some top prize. It's always been dominated by complete shite. Cowell hasn't changed anything.

Christmas No1 used to be a huge prize in the music industry, in fact still is, which is why Cowell chooses to finish his program conveniently just before it.

Admittedly there has been some absolute shite in recent years, and there have also been some good tunes... but the main point is, at least there has been some element of competition. 

I don't know what you mean, what x factor tune? hey?

To be fair, Mr Blobby was a much better song than the take that song it was up against it and deserved it's no.1.

I don't understand all this Cowell stuff.

Arn't Rage signed onto his Label (or part of it), so, if anything, the battle between two of his acts/songs has only really made him more money.

No wonder he phoned the couple up and thanked them. Nearly a million records of his sold in a week, that's a nice income for Christmas isn't it.

No, of course they aren't signed to his label and no it won't have made him more money, although that wasn't the point anyway.

Well both are signed up to Sony Records.....

X Factor's intro music is a re-working of Led Zep's 1975 song, Kashmir, which was recorded for the soundtrack of the film Godzilla by Puff Daddy and, wait for it, Tom Morello of RATM. Coincidence?

Yes.

oi mr nash im trying to wind up ben

Since when has Cowell owned Sony? The x factor records are actually released on Syco which is a subsidiary of Sony BMG. Cowell does not own any part of Sony and only makes money from artists on his label, which Rage aren't on. Sony confirmed he doesn't make anything from Rage sales, why would he? http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/arts_entertainment/music/end+of+x+factoraposs+christmas+charts+reign/3467147

And King of Tonga, I wouldn't care even if that were true.

Fair do's but Im on the side of Rage.  So fuck you etc etc.

What might have saved this whole episode from being so ridiculously cringeworthy is if they'd used a new song..

I'm gonna buy a trowel do do do
And dig a hole do do do
For Simon Cowell do do do
And Cheryl Cole do do do
Danni Minogue do do do
And Louis Walsh do do do
He's a cock do do do
And her tits are false do do do.

This shit just writes itself.

If anyone wants to start a campaign to get me to number one that'd be great. Just think, you too could become something you claim to hate.

Sad sacks buying the X-Factor single versus sad sacks buying another shit single.

And they whole shitty mess being made out to be important.

What a waste of time and what a load of tossers.

You bought it, didn't you?

I bought both of them, just for balance.

Why do you keep saying the same nonsense. One single was shit and one is great, you're the tosser.

Your opinion is that 1 single is great. My opinion is that both are shit.

FWIW, I don't think you're a tosser. I think you're a know it all prick. Your opinion is no more valid than anybody else's. You think some shite group, that makes noisy drivel is good. My opinion is that they are crap. Who's right? Me.

Y'know...what I like about you, Ben, is that post after post you come on and give it your all. People may criticise and call you names, but you always bounce back. You should be proud of yourself because that was a great performance.

Ben, you're what this competition is all about etc etc

Wow! Some great comments there, Ben. How do you feel?

You're not right though. You obviously don't know much about music anyway or you wouldn't call this noisy drivel and so yeah I do think that makes my opinion more valid than yours. Why should the opinion of someone who knows nothing about a subject be worth as much as someone who does? It's pathetic that you feel the need to call everyone tossers for getting a great song to number one just because your taste is poor enough that you don't like it. No problem with you not liking it but then you shouldn't give a fuck anyway so you should just ignore it and not be a twat.

I like music, my taste is quite varied. Just because it doesn't conform to what you like doesn't make my opinion any less valid.
You are as arrogant and deluded as BWB, thinking because you think something is one way, everyone that disagrees is either not as knowledgable, or has no 'taste'.

Music is subjective, some people like some things other people don't. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

As for ignoring it, this is a forum numbnuts. If people only posted when agreeing with something it would be a very dull place.

Merry Christmas to you and yours, I've bought you Susan Boyles CD. I hope you like it. XXX

guy at work downloaded it for 60p just to jump on the band waggon. not cos he likes RATM but to help stop X-Factor claiming xmas No 1 again.

He didn't like the song but liked more what it stood for and the profit going to charity.

In my opinion the xfactor song was shit but so is RATM's.

As others have stated xmas song used to be good and have a bit of excitement and mean something. now a days it proves any old shite can claim it

Christmas songs have never been good.

yeah fair point

That reads like the ramblings of a drunk horse, most of it doesn't even make sense. You were calling people tossers for buying it just because you don't like it which completely contradicts your "big fucking deal" point. I've no problem with people not liking it, like magic roundabout but you were just being a prick for the sake of it. I love windups which are actually funny but that's just being a nob.

in fairness ben i read his post as the songs/artists were tossers not the people buying it

If people bought it because they liked it, fair play. Just like all those who buy the X Factor single each year because they like it.

The irony is obviously lost on some, but I find it quite funny that some people are buying something they don't particularly like, just to stop something else they don't like getting to number 1.

I thought my last post was quite simple to understand BWB, what bit didn't you get?

Calling me a prick is really low. I am crushed.

"but I find it quite funny that some people are buying something they don't particularly like, just to stop something else they don't like getting to number 1."


not really, they are voting against a principle..

Most of the people who bought it do like it and if they don't, they certainly prefer it to the x factor song and think it's worth getting to piss off Simon Cowell and give some money to charity, or they just think the idea of this song being christmas number one is funny - which it was. It's not really ironic.

I'm glad that's all been so conclusively cleared up. I'd like to thank everyone that bought the Rage Against the Machine single for making me see that a record that I'd previously considered mediocre is infact amazing. I'd also like to thank them for providing us with a funny joke. I look forward to laughing at that when it eventually sinks in.

you dont post enough spacey :D

Blimey is this thread still going on?

Not sure how you couldn't see the funny side of the least Christmassy christmas number one of all time and a song that only made number 25 on it's first release suddenly becoming christmas number one after 17 years and one of the best selling songs of the decade. I think it's hilarious, particularly when they even had x factor fans who were even outside radio one waiting for their hero to get no.1. :D

Aaaaha   ha   ha......It's the way you tell 'em!

Spacey, I read your dawn of the jed stuff and some of it's pretty good and Barry was great. I'm disappointed in you, this shouldn't be going over your head. Give it some time and it might sink in.

Just because I don't agree with you, doesn't mean I don't still love you.

I do sort of get it. I guess I just don't care enough.

Spacey, perhaps you need to start a campaign to get a single of your choice to number one to iterate your point.

I made up a song about cake earlier.


Cakey Cake Cakey Cakey Cake Cake
Christmas Cake
Cheese Cake
Cupcakes
A batch of buns - yum yum yum

Sausage Rolls!
They aren't cakes.
But they are delicious.

Cakey Cake Cakey Cakey Cake Cake

Pork Pies?
No No No

Yeah, BWB's been having Rage Rage

Phew. I thought it was just me that got wound up so much.

What's your politics, BWB? We could have a complete rage-fest if they don't match mine :D