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Title: Iphone
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:39:48
Sure this has been discussed before but LuxGSM are doing a deal where I can get the Iphone for free. Have to sign up to a 24 month contract but would get unlimited text, minutes and internet access for 50 Euro a month.

Anyone have an Iphone and can recommend it? Does this sound like a decent deal?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 09:47:00
I too have been offered an iPhone deal. 24 month contract, free phone, £25 a month with 600 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited internet.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spy on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:05:42
I think the iphone looks cool. Whats the battery life like?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:29:54
Battery depends totally on what you use it for.

Using it constantly as an ipod won't keep the battery for that long or youtube.  Mine needs charging every couple of days but I normally plug it into my laptop etc. inbetween via USB which charges it a bit anyway.

I love the phone, think its ace although Id wait till the summer if you're thinking of getting one as apparently theres a newer version going to be out.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:37:00
There were a few things that put me off getting one:

1) Limited to the wonderful Apple software.
2) I can't use touch screen phones because I am a flid.
3) I didn't want to pay for the phone.
4) It's a bit of a chunky monkey.

They're quite nice phones and from what I've heard and seen the touch screen interface cannot be beaten. You can get some decent alternatives with better cameras if that's what floats your boat though.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 11:29:23
If you've got a Mac then I'd say its a no brainer (especially if you already use iTunes). Otherwise I'd think twice as iTunes can be a real crock of shit on Windows and is likely to do your head in and you have to use it with the iPhone.

As regards the iPhone itself;
- the app store will blow you away, a massive range of apps with a lot of really good stuff available for free or a quid or two. it is even better than that ad they're showing on TV makes out.
- the camera is shit, really shit and you can't record video.
- battery life is average at best, I normally have to re-charge mine every day but then I use it a lot for email, web browsing, games, music, video and most phones would go flat quick doing all of that. it comes with a USB charger which makes it easier plus its a good idea syncing it every day anyway.
- no hands free / voice dialling. a real pain if you want to use it in the car.
- the touch screen interface rocks.

But as someone else said there is going to be a new version coming out within the next month or two - though I'd imagine one reason for the deals being offered at present is to offload remaining stock. They did the same thing when the current version came out.

Though the next version of the iPhone OS is due at the same time with a lot of new cool features, most of which should work with older versions.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 12:27:23
I'd hold off for now the next version is due out this year so expect the price to come down a few pounds before hand as operators clear their stock.





Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 16:53:10
Yeah the Iphone 2 comes out this summer I think. That's probably why they are doing the deal. I personally think Iphones (although a great piece of kit) is over-rated. There are a few decent enough alternatives with better cameras around. The only thing the Iphone games over them is gaming.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 17:15:04
Yeah the Iphone 2 comes out this summer I think.

Actually its the 3rd iPhone this summer, we've already had two.

Its supposed to have a better camera and full blown video support - enabling you to edit and upload.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: land_of_bo on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 17:17:15
I thought the iphone couldn't do texts? If so unlimited texts seems a bit pointless


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: axs on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 17:28:11
I thought the iphone couldn't do texts? If so unlimited texts seems a bit pointless

i think it's picture messages it can't do.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: michael on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 17:29:44
Apparently there is a new one coming out soon?   ???


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 17:31:18
Actually its the 3rd iPhone this summer, we've already had two.

Its supposed to have a better camera and full blown video support - enabling you to edit and upload.

Ahh right fair enough. Will gain an edge if the camera is 5MP or more.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: michael on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 17:32:56
I have also been told that O2's exclusivity deal was for 2 years, so that runs out in 2009.

After that it is likely to be available on all networks.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 18:11:13
I love me Iphone... the camera isn't great, but i have an actual camera for that. I've never done MMS really, so don't miss that. The most irrtating thing about it is taht you cannot forward texts.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 18:21:45
I love me Iphone... the camera isn't great, but i have an actual camera for that. I've never done MMS really, so don't miss that. The most irrtating thing about it is taht you cannot forward texts.

Totally agree!  That winds me up! 


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 20:31:32
Ahh right fair enough. Will gain an edge if the camera is 5MP or more.

The rumour was that Apple had ordered a boat load of 3.2MP and 5MP camera's, the 3.2MP for the iPhone and 5MP for something else. But then there is also a rumour of a iPhone Nano and the iPod Nano getting a camera, so maybe the 5MP is for the iPhone. Who knows? Its going to be better and do video though.

There is a lot of cool new stuff in the OS v3 which has been confirmed, either by Apple or from the beta versions.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 20:43:44
Any recommendations for apps?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 20:50:46
Any recommendations for apps?

Depends what you want. Lots of the official apps are good - eBay, PayPal, Skype, FaceBook, Google.

I've got a shopping list app I use a lot - ShopShop. Flixster is good if you go to the cinema. Too many great games for free or under a £1, I normally just go through the best sellers every so often and buy a few - its not going to break the bank.

My favourite app though is Shazam - great for identifying songs quickly and accurately.

The Apple TV ad doesn't lie, there really is an app for everything and on the whole are dirt cheap.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Doore on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 21:28:46
Call me thick, but I've just read this whole thread and I don't really understand a word of it.  And it's not my age (I don't think!), I'm 25.

I still buy albums on CD.  I own and use a PlayStation 2.  I use grammar in text messages.  I think I need help.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 21:34:42

I still buy albums on CD.  I own and use a PlayStation 2.  I use grammar in text messages.  I think I need help.

Its ok, i'm the same and i'm 6 years younger. ROCK ON


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 21:59:10
Iphone 3.0 comes out in 2 weeks and you can upgrade any existing Iphone from www.iphoneunlockuk.com for a fee.

It has loads of new features inc all of the stuff that people have mentioned in the thread that existing Iphone does not.



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 22:11:06
Iphone 3.0 comes out in 2 weeks and you can upgrade any existing Iphone from www.iphoneunlockuk.com for a fee.

Why would you pay? The upgrade is free if you've got an official contract, otherwise you can just jailbreak it.

Or am I missing something?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 22:18:54
Of course if you have a contract then its all free. I am using mine on the 3 network and had to get it unlocked from O2. If you know know to Jailbreak it for free Jonny then please let me know.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 22:30:46
Of course if you have a contract then its all free. I am using mine on the 3 network and had to get it unlocked from O2. If you know know to Jailbreak it for free Jonny then please let me know.

Just Google for something like "iphone jailbreak 2.2.1" or try http://blog.iphone-dev.org/. Looks like there are a few different versions dependent upon what you want to do (unlock and or jailbreak) - Yellowsnow, Quickpwn, Pwnage for example.

Pretty certain you'll find the sites charging you for it are just selling you someone else's hard work.

Be careful and read up on it first though just to make sure you know what you're doing. I've never done it myself as I've had no need to, though I've got an old 1st Gen I've been meaning to try it out on.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 07:47:05
So as I have an existing I Phone contract, do I just plug it into Itunes to get the upgrade or do I need to log onto another website?



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 09:18:32
The deal I was offered (a friends & family staff offer through Carphone Warehouse) has been given away to someone else :(


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 10:35:33
So as I have an existing I Phone contract, do I just plug it into Itunes to get the upgrade or do I need to log onto another website?

iTunes takes care of it - it will download the update and install it when you sync. It should have done it before, I doubt the latest release (2.2.1) has been pre-installed on any iPhones yet.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 12:07:47
Cheers,  I know it syncs but anything more than that is a little alien to me!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 12:28:25
Incidentally I have taken delivery of my fourth SE C905 today. Hopefully it lasts longer than a few days.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 13:41:07
Argggh need some help with a stupid App!! Gay husband told me to install it but has now gone on holiday and Im stuck!!!

Ive installed a free app called IM+Lite which allows you to use like your MSN messenger on the phone but apprently it shows me as logged in 24/7!!! random!! I dont want that!!!

If I just delete the app will it make me show offline again? I think Ive disabled the account which has hopefully worked???


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 13:44:51
Meh, iPhone.

I'll stick to my trusty HTC Touch Pro 2 thanks.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 14:58:54
Argggh need some help with a stupid App!! Gay husband told me to install it but has now gone on holiday and Im stuck!!!

Ive installed a free app called IM+Lite which allows you to use like your MSN messenger on the phone but apprently it shows me as logged in 24/7!!! random!! I dont want that!!!

If I just delete the app will it make me show offline again? I think Ive disabled the account which has hopefully worked???

Is there an option within the app (or the main settings) to logout? I'd do that and make sure you're showing as offline before deleting the app, just in case you end up being logged in for the rest of your life.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spy on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 15:16:58
I want an iphone so badly. I believe my life would be better with one.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 15:26:29
Is there an option within the app (or the main settings) to logout? I'd do that and make sure you're showing as offline before deleting the app, just in case you end up being logged in for the rest of your life.

yeah see thats my worry!!! now when I click on the app it says all my accounts are disabled so hopefully I show as logged out now??


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 15:37:59
yeah see thats my worry!!! now when I click on the app it says all my accounts are disabled so hopefully I show as logged out now??

Can't you get one of your mates to check if you're still showing as online?

I think some of those IM apps work by keeping you permanently logged on to the service, which would explain why it did it. Worth trying some of the other apps for IM as there are millions of them. I've been using Fring which seems ok, pretty certain that supports MSN as well.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 15:41:30
I dont have any mates :(


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 17:36:58
I want an iphone so badly. I believe my life would be better with one.

You sad bastard


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 18:46:42
A quick google reveals that there is a setting to keep you logged in for a certain amount of days so you can receive push messages.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 18:54:43
Do Iphones have a camera on the front so you can look at yourself? Could be useful who want to try out my new craze.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 18:59:36
I have no idea Ben a lot of phones do these days, for video calling, or maybe they foresaw your latest craze.

My phone can do video calling but only has a camera on the back, so you wouldn't be able to see who you're talking to.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 20:18:26
Do Iphones have a camera on the front so you can look at yourself? Could be useful who want to try out my new craze.

No.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 20:40:06
Well that's rubbish.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 20:42:23
I'm sure you could rig something up with mirrors and stuff.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: townforever on Sunday, January 24, 2010, 16:14:51
Just incase anyone is interested, O2 will legaly unlock your Iphone so that you can use other networks.

http://www.shop.o2.co.uk/update/unlockmyiphone.html


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Sunday, January 24, 2010, 16:24:14
Can someone steal me an Iphone please.

My contract has another 9 months to run


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Sunday, January 24, 2010, 17:01:46
My other half upgraded to the 3GS today and they gave him 150 quid back for exchanging his old i phone. Literally just took his card and refunded it straight back.  Not bad!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: (.)Boobies(.) on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 14:16:11
My other half upgraded to the 3GS today and they gave him 150 quid back for exchanging his old i phone. Literally just took his card and refunded it straight back.  Not bad!

Fair fcks. Might look at that friday when I get paid then. That or there's always a mug on ebay willing to throw money away and you'd get the same amount.

Cheers


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 14:26:45
Apple are holding a "media event" tomorrow, worth waiting to see what that brings. Most likely a tablet of some sort but they might announce the next iPhone which will most likely be released in the summer.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 14:29:08
My other half upgraded to the 3GS today and they gave him 150 quid back for exchanging his old i phone. Literally just took his card and refunded it straight back.  Not bad!

Good to know, my iPhone 3G contract is up in a couple of weeks, and i quite fancy the new one.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 14:54:11
how much you wanna sell it? good condition?!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 14:55:47
Where was that Luci?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 15:15:45
Apple are holding a "media event" tomorrow, worth waiting to see what that brings. Most likely a tablet of some sort but they might announce the next iPhone which will most likely be released in the summer.

Yeah, supposed to be the rumoured iSlate. More twatty fashion accessories for the Apple fans in another words. :)


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 16:19:08
I get my upgrade on Vodafone in a couple of months, think i'll get the 3GS iphone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Manc on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 18:14:44
Anyone fancying a new phone have a look at the HTC HD2.  Great phone!!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 18:47:58
@jonny (wanky twitter speak. Go me) Heard whispers of a new iPhone over the summer. That'll be next year then!

My 3G contract was up at the weekend so I've kept it and gone on to that 30 day rolling contract for £20pm for if/when the new one comes out.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 19:00:20
Anyone fancying a new phone have a look at the HTC HD2.  Great phone!!
and be quick, i've just got one today, should be delivered in the next day of two, for some reason its actually being discontinued and will only be available on business contracts.
just looking at the specs its got rediculous power for a phone, its probably more powerful than some of the PC's you have at home.
512mb ram 1ghz snapdragon processor..etc etc. It truley does look like a smashing piece of kit, i really hope it doesnt dissapoint.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Manc on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 19:38:23
and be quick, i've just got one today, should be delivered in the next day of two, for some reason its actually being discontinued and will only be available on business contracts.
just looking at the specs its got rediculous power for a phone, its probably more powerful than some of the PC's you have at home.
512mb ram 1ghz snapdragon processor..etc etc. It truley does look like a smashing piece of kit, i really hope it doesnt dissapoint.

Trust me it doesnt dissapoint!!  you say its being discontinued?  I have not heard that, Vodafone have stopped selling it apart from Business, but other phone companies are selling it.

Virgin have a good deal, £25 a month 18 month, £80 for the phone.  That is the cheapest I have found it for.  Also £30 quidco as well.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 19:54:47
Trust me it doesnt dissapoint!!  you say its being discontinued?  I have not heard that, Vodafone have stopped selling it apart from Business, but other phone companies are selling it.

Virgin have a good deal, £25 a month 18 month, £80 for the phone.  That is the cheapest I have found it for.  Also £30 quidco as well.

i got it through vodafone 35/month 1000min unlimited text unlimited browsing and i got a free wii with it. and free phone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Manc on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 20:07:56
i got it through vodafone 35/month 1000min unlimited text unlimited browsing and i got a free wii with it. and free phone.

Visit xda developer forum, great site, loads of tweaks and apps etc.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 20:18:55
My penis sounds more powerful than that phone Chubbs


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 20:43:53
Visit xda developer forum, great site, loads of tweaks and apps etc.
allready there mate. cheers


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Manc on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 21:33:56
allready there mate. cheers

If you want Tom Tom, I can send you the files?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 07:19:28
If you want Tom Tom, I can send you the files?
thats one thing i was hopeing for, cracked tom tom, if you could send it that would be fab (and brief instructions :-p)


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Manc on Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 07:45:13
thats one thing i was hopeing for, cracked tom tom, if you could send it that would be fab (and brief instructions :-p)

Its not a cracked version, you will need to get some maps for it..


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: pumbaa on Thursday, January 28, 2010, 08:25:02
If you want an iPhone but can't be arsed with Apple/paying over the odds for it, try the HTC Hero. Uses Android OS. Just got mine as a free upgrade, paying 10 quid a month less with double the amount of minutes, u/l texts and data. A lot of the apps available for the iPhone are available on Android, and 99% are free.

If you can wait, there are some new flashy Android based phones on their way - HTC Dragon for example.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 28, 2010, 16:51:52
Ive just ordered a 16gb 3Gs. When it comes in to inputting my contacts as im changing my number, do i have to do them through the phone or is there a program where i can type them into that and transfer them over, eg Nokia PC Suite etc?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spy on Thursday, January 28, 2010, 17:01:35
Ive just ordered a 16gb 3Gs. When it comes in to inputting my contacts as im changing my number, do i have to do them through the phone or is there a program where i can type them into that and transfer them over, eg Nokia PC Suite etc?

You can do it using itunes I think.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: axs on Thursday, January 28, 2010, 18:15:22
you can sync with outlook too.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: otanswell on Thursday, January 28, 2010, 18:19:03
Ive just ordered a 16gb 3Gs. When it comes in to inputting my contacts as im changing my number, do i have to do them through the phone or is there a program where i can type them into that and transfer them over, eg Nokia PC Suite etc?

yeah sync your old phone with outlook then when you plug your iphone into itunes for the first time it will sync your contacts through itunes..


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spud on Saturday, January 30, 2010, 10:43:44
Weren't suppose to get my upgrade until 1st April but emailed them about paying the contract up early and they let me upgrade 2 months early. Loving the iphone so far, got to sort out some insurance as the first month is free & then £12.99 a month the robbing Bastards!!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 21:19:26
Anyone heard about the blackra1n application which supposedly cracks some code to let you download all apps for free?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 21:38:19
Anyone heard about the blackra1n application which supposedly cracks some code to let you download all apps for free?

As I understand it (not much), blackra1n will jailbreak the iphone so it can use apps downloaded from sources other than apple. This would include 'pirated' official apps available from these 'other' sites.



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 21:40:16
As I understand it (not much), blackra1n will jailbreak the iphone so it can use apps downloaded from sources other than apple. This would include 'pirated' official apps available from these 'other' sites.



ah ok. Sound a bit risky for my simple needs. Think i'll pass.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 21:43:09
I'm going to say this only once ladies and gentleman, for gods sake whether it be free with your bank or a couple of quid a month, or even house insurance, Make sure you get insurance for your phone that covers WATER DAMAGE.
Phone companies and apple will not touch a phone with any water damage and they can tell by sensors inside the Headphone jack and dock and then 4 are inside the phone.
Even moisture can get in and ruin the backlight and other things
You then have to pay £142 to get a refurbished Iphone.

I love my Iphone but my Nokia N958gb got into a few scrapes with no damage.
Now all you have to do is leave your phone near a bathroom and the moisture can ruin your phone.

It's also worth pointing out that after speaking to an independent store and reading countless forums that o2 Have lied about water damage to make you pay the £142.

At least if you get insurance WITH WATER DAMAGE you will hopefully not be too much out of pocket


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 21:58:43
Loving the iphone at the moment.

So many different apps, loads of decent free ones about


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: otanswell on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 21:59:20
the jailbreaking is a piece of piss, fuck paying £60 for tom tom...


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 22:00:24
sorted out my line rental discount yet?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: otanswell on Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 22:11:51
nope as i explained to you i dont have a staff account at the moment, to get one i have to take another contract out which im not doing at the moment...


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spy on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 09:03:55
Loving the iphone at the moment.

So many different apps, loads of decent free ones about

recommend me some decent apps please


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 10:17:59
Yelp- finds bars, restaurants etc near to your location.

Google Earth;
Converter;
RadioBOX;
Yell;
Shopping List;
Photoshop Mobile;
Paper Toss;
Bump;


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 14:00:25
the jailbreaking is a piece of piss, fuck paying £60 for tom tom...

i'm currently trying to do mine. how do you do it.

i've got these instructions to follow later
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=5886

need to update the firmware first i believe


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 14:07:57
need to update the firmware first i believe

Make sure you get your iPhone on to 3.1.2 and not 3.1.3 as the latter hasn't been hacked yet. You can find old versions of the iPhone OS if you Google for them - they are all on the Apple website you just need to find them.

As long as you find a good tutorial and follow it to the letter it is a piece of piss.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 14:14:16
If you jailbreak your phone doesn't that fuck it up possibly and leave it open to hackers?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 14:20:44
Make sure you get your iPhone on to 3.1.2 and not 3.1.3 as the latter hasn't been hacked yet. You can find old versions of the iPhone OS if you Google for them - they are all on the Apple website you just need to find them.

As long as you find a good tutorial and follow it to the letter it is a piece of piss.

yeah 3.1.2 popped up this morning so i shall instal that.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 14:54:16
yeah 3.1.2 popped up this morning so i shall instal that.

If you mean in iTunes then it will most likely be 3.1.3 which is the latest iPhone OS.

Do not install 3.1.3 if you want to jail break it, you want 3.1.2 at present.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 16:55:56
Yelp- finds bars, restaurants etc near to your location.

Google Earth;
Converter;
RadioBOX;
Yell;
Shopping List;
Photoshop Mobile;
Paper Toss;
Bump;


sky sports football centre
star wars light saber
shazam


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Langers on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 17:04:14
sky sports football centre

Would agree with that, great free app.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 17:07:14
I think my life is incomplete without a shopping list application


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 17:13:46
I've got an ace free app which teaches u how to make your own free custom ringtones!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 19:15:33
Can you set voice memos as ringtones and text received noises on the iphone?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 20:53:31
well i've tried counteless times to unlock the phone but it was having none of it.

Had to restore the phone and now it has the 3.1.3 firmware attached. after being made redundant i think i'll get the mrs to return it etc and save me some money


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: otanswell on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 21:13:26
www.blackra1n.com to download the jailbreaking software, you only need to click a button...


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 23:33:05
tried that. never worked.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, February 5, 2010, 18:53:54
I used redsn0w when I jailbroke my old iPhone, was quite simple.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Monday, February 8, 2010, 19:43:35
Jailbreaking isn't illeagal but is using installous to get free apps?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Friday, February 12, 2010, 14:25:26
Can someone tell me how to turn off the voicemail on an Iphone much pleases xx


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, February 12, 2010, 14:38:32
That'll be based with your network provider.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Friday, February 12, 2010, 14:45:58
they told me I have to do it myself?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Manc on Friday, February 12, 2010, 15:01:01
they told me I have to do it myself?

What network? 

O2 instructions here 

http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1343&sid=95b576d229b2aec42a2638eef9868ef0


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, February 12, 2010, 15:04:38
Call 1760 to turn off.

Call 1750 to turn on.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Friday, February 12, 2010, 15:13:16
Call 1760 to turn off.

Call 1750 to turn on.

ledge thanks


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:13:06
So, the Iphone 4 has been released?

Anyone upgrading?

http://www.apple.com/iphone/


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:17:42
Not yet. About £180 for the phone at £35 pm for at least 18 months. Not worth that.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:24:39
Good lord, is it really £180 for something which isn't technologically superior than anything else out at the moment? They're nice phones and all, but a complete rip off.

Anyone got an iPad? I really like the look of them, think they're a great idea but at the moment too expensive to be a replacement for a laptop.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:25:10
If you have the iphone you can watch all the World cup games. Catchuptv.com (need to register) shows all freeview channels but ITV has a 2010 world cup app which you can watch all ITV games on.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:55:54
So, the Iphone 4 has been released?

Anyone upgrading?

I will be. I'm out of contract so I'll wait to see who has the best deal, might be a bit better this time as T-Mobile are stocking it as well. Pity they haven't upgraded the storage, I'll have to go with 32Gb this time as 16Gb just ain't enough.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:58:05
Good lord, is it really £180 for something which isn't technologically superior than anything else out at the moment? They're nice phones and all, but a complete rip off.

It must be better somehow surely? Or is it just smaller?

Quote
Anyone got an iPad? I really like the look of them, think they're a great idea but at the moment too expensive to be a replacement for a laptop.

Agreed.

The problem I have is its too big just to take with you on a whim. And too expensive to have round the house/for ovccasional travel. And it stuck with Apple software. So I'm sticking to a laptop and a smartphone/

=========
Anyone know how much a good condition 3GS is going for these days (its for the Mrs).


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:58:54
I'll have to go with 32Gb this time as 16Gb just ain't enough.

I'm not being an ass, i'm curious, but how do you use 16gb of storage on a phone?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:05:27
Im looking at jailbreaking mine, i presume you cant jailbreak a 3GS running 3.13 firmware?

Cant find anything saying you can


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:14:26
Im looking at jailbreaking mine, i presume you cant jailbreak a 3GS running 3.13 firmware?

Cant find anything saying you can

You can, as long as you're not bothered about network unlocking.

Use Spirit (http://spiritjb.com/), it's a piece of piss. One click of a button. A lot easier than the old days of redsn0w when you had to hold a sequence of keys whilst it flashed the firmware.

Weirdly, all the 'new' features on OS4 like multi-tasking and sorting the Springboard into categories are things that have been available from Cydia for years.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:15:22
Have you done yours sam? It wont fuck the phone will it?

cheers mate


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:18:36
I jb'd my 3G running OS 3.1.3 using Spirit.

Read the instructions and you'll be fine. Take a back up of the phone in iTunes first, that way if anything fucks up you can just restore back to exactly how it was (apps, messages, settings etc).


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:18:55
I'm not being an ass, i'm curious, but how do you use 16gb of storage on a phone?

It's not just a phone though is it (the same as any smart phone nowadays). I use it for music (no need for an iPod anymore), video (mainly connected to the TV to watch downloads, good for porn as well), pictures (again, connect to a TV for slideshows), apps (sat nav takes a fair bit of space) and so on. They've improved the camera and added HD video recording to the new iPhone, so I'll use it a lot more for that as well.

I don't know how people cope with less storage than that on a phone. Or do you just carry round a phone, sat nav, iPod and a camera?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:20:54
It must be better somehow surely? Or is it just smaller?


It'll be better than the 3gs for sure, but not anything else on the market. Of course those clever marketing people at Apple will make it seem like a totally unique product to justify the rediculous price tag. 5mp camera, video calling, limited multi-tasking...just a few of the things off the top of my head you can do on other phones.

That said, Apple's OS and Apps Market are far more polished than anything else out, but my understanding is you have to pay for apps as well, unless you jailbreak the phone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:25:40
Read the instructions and you'll be fine. Take a back up of the phone in iTunes first, that way if anything fucks up you can just restore back to exactly how it was (apps, messages, settings etc).

Make sure you follow the right instructions for your model and current iOS version.

Take a backup of the backup - iTunes (on the Mac) only keeps one backup copy which has screwed me over before.

Most importantly - once you've done it DO NOT upgrade iOS through iTunes. Wait until its confirmed the hack still works with the new version (or they come out with a new hack) then follow the relevant instructions on how to do it.

If you've got a 3GS I'd wait till iOS 4 is hacked and go with that, as there are a lot of new features in it you'll want.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:28:51
The spirit thing i have downloaded, you only have to press that button i presume?

I can restore it back to original OS after cant i?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:33:48
It's not just a phone though is it (the same as any smart phone nowadays). I use it for music (no need for an iPod anymore), video (mainly connected to the TV to watch downloads, good for porn as well), pictures (again, connect to a TV for slideshows), apps (sat nav takes a fair bit of space) and so on. They've improved the camera and added HD video recording to the new iPhone, so I'll use it a lot more for that as well.

I don't know how people cope with less storage than that on a phone. Or do you just carry round a phone, sat nav, iPod and a camera?

Ah, i've only been part of smart phone culture for a few months and do none of that you see. Now you mention it it seems obvious, but i'm guessing specialised devices are better than an all in one. You know, better to do one thing well than loads of things averagely. And to answer your question i only use my phone for making phone calls and ignoring text messages. I have Satnav in the car and don't own an mp3 player or camera, so before you ask, yes, a sheltered life i lead.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:39:09
The spirit thing i have downloaded, you only have to press that button i presume?

I can restore it back to original OS after cant i?

Yes and yes.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:41:45
cheers will try it now


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:44:25
I shall be awaiting to see the prices on contracts before I decide, I want an iphone, but the google G2 seems to do quite well, and I do like my G1. Getting a bit old now though!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:51:45
O2 are doing an early upgrade offer, charging £20 per remaining months left on your existing contract. For me that's £220. Don't think I'll be getting one for a while.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:02:57
Ok, ive done it.

Im currently downloading the cracked tomtom software, how do i install it? ive dowloaded appsync


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:02:58
I'm with T-mobile anyways, so shall see what they're offering.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:07:00
Tans look on http://www.macthemes.net/forum

All the gubbins you could have ask for. I'd recommend the Illumine theme. Also Installous.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:10:07
Cheers Sippo.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:11:12
sweet i may break my iphoone too. blackrain never worked on mine but will try spirit.

if Tans can do it anyone can


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:11:52
I'd also download winscp onto your pc/laptop, so you can ssh into your phone. Then you can transfer files into winterboard. Loads of stuff outthere on youtube.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:13:09
I'd also download winscp onto your pc/laptop, so you can ssh into your phone. Then you can transfer files into winterboard. Loads of stuff outthere on youtube.

in english please


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:20:22
Ok, ive done it.

Im currently downloading the cracked tomtom software, how do i install it? ive dowloaded appsync

Just drag and drop into iTunes, then sync the phone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:35:36
dragg from the desktop sam? as easy as that


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:36:07
What don't you understand magic? WinSCP is a bit like explorer but connects to your phone. It only works with Jailbroken phones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMDfxEGvK4


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:41:15
dragg from the desktop sam? as easy as that

Yep, as long as it's a cracked .ipa file. Just drop into the apps folder in iTunes.

Or you might find the same file on install0us, or in Cydia if you've added the correct repos. Have a Google for Cydia repos.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:41:56
I'd also download winscp onto your pc/laptop, so you can ssh into your phone. Then you can transfer files into winterboard. Loads of stuff outthere on youtube.

didn't know what winterboard was and i gather sshing your iphone is just a figure of speach


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:52:00
yeah. SSH is the transfer/connecting to your phone. Winterboard is the application to apply themes.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 13:12:51
Looks like all the networks will be selling it now, Three and T-Mobile have already confirmed it and rumours are that Virgin will be as well. Hopefully it should mean some better deals especially as the new networks tend to compete on price more.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spy on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 13:38:37
If previous iphone releases are anything to go by all the networks will have to sell at the same price.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 14:13:42
Its a fucking rip off when you can get the HTC desire for free really isnt it?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 14:25:32
Regarding cracked apps, is there any decent websites out there that do this rather than using cydia?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 14:28:53
Use Install0us.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 14:36:27
has it worked ok Tans? Tom Tom instal etc


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 14:37:06
tom tom worked fine


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 15:24:42
Never really considered jailbreaking mine but judging by the relative ease at which Tans managed it, might have to give it a try. 

Update: I see install0us has closed down, any other sites worth using or are Apple just gonna close them all down?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 15:43:18
Regarding cracked apps, is there any decent websites out there that do this rather than using cydia?

The preset repo's in Cydia don't list copywrited software. If downloading cracked copywrited software is your thing (obviously I don't condone it) then you'll need to add some repo's that do carry cracked software.

http://ipodtouchtricks.net/cydia/cydia-repositories/


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 19:13:28
just done mine and all working. very very easy to do


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 19:17:37
tomtom never installed though. why? all i did was copy accross to apps and then synced?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 21:14:09
Install0us works fine for me, but recently my cydia is messing up.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 21:17:38
cydia is ok here so far. Have got WinterBoard installed and a couple of themes working. just downloading TomTom through that which is really slow.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 21:34:26
cannot find that illumine theme either


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 11, 2010, 07:09:32
http://www.macthemes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16796363&p=1

I think you can download it from elsewhere on t'web if you search in google.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 11, 2010, 07:53:26
sorted tomtom through installous and works great.

i see we have to donate for illumine. looks nice though.



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 11, 2010, 07:55:46
I think you can get the basic package if you just search via google. Then just customise your icons through that thread.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 11, 2010, 08:35:10
yeah just been reading that. How do i get the theme if it's not downloadable via cydia?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 11, 2010, 08:38:16
download the theme. Then using that winscp (free download http://winscp.net/eng/index.php), transfer the folder into /private/var/stash/Themes.NyRLpo.

Then active it in winterboard.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 11, 2010, 08:46:42
cheers old bean will do that later


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 11, 2010, 14:35:27
Sippo, once you've downloaded apps via installous and then sync them into itunes can you then delete the downloads or do you always need to have them?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 13:28:45
No I don't think you do.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 16:29:51
i've noticed you can't instal apps via installous as itunes deletes them. unless there is a work around?

also this link for illumine is valid for another hour

http://ow.ly/1PQVT


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Monday, June 14, 2010, 07:11:12
I don't sync my apps in Itunes. There's no need as you can get them from the app store on your phone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Friday, June 18, 2010, 09:54:27
Got an iphone 3gs the other day on contract. Great phone but the reception to make calls is shit inside and the battery charge doesnt last a day. The apps are great etc. and I know by using the phone a lot it will kill the phone but this phone is just pants if you want to use it for calls. I charge the phone all night and the battery is dead by 3pm the next day. I have turned off 3G which helps but I would go with HTC.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 09:56:56
Everyone knows about the iphone poor battery, but it's all about the apps. If it dies at 3pm after a full charge the night before you must be using it hell of a lot.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 09:59:56
iPhone 4 is out very shortly, supposedly the battery is much improved.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:01:20
On orange... http://iphone.orange.co.uk/plans/


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:01:45
I have a 3G which supposedly has an inferior battery. I have jailbroken it and use backgrounder which uses more battery, I have push mail on permanently, use the iPod 2 or 3 hours a day, use Wifi a few hours a day and also a gameboy emulator for a few hours too and my battery easily lasts more than 24 hours.

There must be something wrong with your phone Gaz.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:03:00
O2's prices for iPhone 4 are scandalous. Only free on a £60 a month - 24 month contract. They've changed their smartphone tarriff it no longer includes unlimited data either.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Langers on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:03:32
My battery is also very good, can last a good 24hrs as Samdy says.

Would you reccomend jailbreaking it samdy?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:10:30
Definitely. I was sceptical at first because I was scared of bricking the phone, but it's a piece of piss these days.

It obviously opens up the possibility of using cracked software (not that I condone that ofcourse), but even the simple apps such as backgrounder, categories, ProSwitcher etc. make usability of the phone so much better.

Most of the 'new' features on iOS4 such as multitasking and icon folders have been available to jailbroken phones for years.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:11:53
Langers look at http://www.macthemes.net/forum. Opens up all the possiblities.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Langers on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:23:46
Definitely. I was sceptical at first because I was scared of bricking the phone, but it's a piece of piss these days.

It obviously opens up the possibility of using cracked software (not that I condone that ofcourse), but even the simple apps such as backgrounder, categories, ProSwitcher etc. make usability of the phone so much better.

Most of the 'new' features on iOS4 such as multitasking and icon folders have been available to jailbroken phones for years.

Langers look at http://www.macthemes.net/forum. Opens up all the possiblities.

Cheers guys.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:40:28
O2's prices for iPhone 4 are scandalous. Only free on a £60 a month - 24 month contract. They've changed their smartphone tarriff it no longer includes unlimited data either.

The accidentally released and not confirmed tariffs from Vodafone look the best at the moment:

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/06/14/vodafone-uk-details-iphone-4-plans-a-little-early-we-keep-the-s/

Plus T-Mobile, 3, Tesco haven't released their prices and maybe Virgin will be doing it.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:05:55
Where can i get new message alert tones?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:12:51
Cydia


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:16:46
The accidentally released and not confirmed tariffs from Vodafone look the best at the moment:

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/06/14/vodafone-uk-details-iphone-4-plans-a-little-early-we-keep-the-s/

Plus T-Mobile, 3, Tesco haven't released their prices and maybe Virgin will be doing it.

Those prices do look good. Shame that it'll cost me the best part of £350 to buy out of my current O2 contract.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:28:29
Those prices do look good. Shame that it'll cost me the best part of £350 to buy out of my current O2 contract.

How long have you had it? O2 are letting people buy out their contracts for £20 a month. Plus you can get surprisingly good prices for second hand iPhones on eBay, especially if you've unlocked / jailbroken them first.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:29:42
Cydia

ive found them on there and installed some but i cant find them in my sound list etc


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:30:54
How long have you had it? O2 are letting people buy out their contracts for £20 a month. Plus you can get surprisingly good prices for second hand iPhones on eBay, especially if you've unlocked / jailbroken them first.

14 months into a 24 month contract. I'm aware O2 are allowing buy-outs at £20 a month, but I'm sure that's only if you take a new contract with them.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 12:00:01
ive found them on there and installed some but i cant find them in my sound list etc

Enable them in Winterboard, then access them in settings. They replace the ones currently there ie. Horn


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Spy on Friday, June 18, 2010, 13:26:13
You can already get ios4 online. An ex-workmate has it.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Friday, June 18, 2010, 16:18:33
I've been waiting for the iphone 4 as my upgrade was due in May.  Going to have to wait ages to get it though as it'll sell out pretty quick I guess.



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Langers on Friday, June 18, 2010, 16:21:13
I cant find a website that will do jailbreaking. They all want to charge me.

Or do you have to pay for it wherever you get it done?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 16:56:52
Instructions: http://www.iphonedownloadblog.com/2009/10/11/jailbreak-iphone-blackra1n-tutorial/

site: www.blackra1n.com


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 18, 2010, 17:18:18
Or, even simpler than blackrain, use http://spiritjb.com/


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Langers on Saturday, June 19, 2010, 09:41:58
Thanks again guys, I will do it now.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: otanswell on Saturday, June 19, 2010, 22:34:49
You can already get ios4 online. An ex-workmate has it.

Yeah I've put it on my 3GS, runs so much smoother


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Saturday, June 19, 2010, 23:38:30
Yeah I've put it on my 3GS, runs so much smoother

do you have a link?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, June 20, 2010, 10:58:03
For anyone who's read my posts about Spirit and is considering jailbreaking using this method, DO NOT DO IT IF YOU'VE UPDATED ITUNES TO 9.2.

I don't want to be held responsible for bricking your iPhone!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Freddies Ferret on Monday, June 21, 2010, 17:23:08
quick heads up, the new ios4 is available now on itunes


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Monday, June 21, 2010, 17:32:04
can i restore back to normal and upgrqde the os?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, June 21, 2010, 18:15:53
what os you got? i'm on 3.1.3


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, June 21, 2010, 18:16:46
For anyone who's read my posts about Spirit and is considering jailbreaking using this method, DO NOT DO IT IF YOU'VE UPDATED ITUNES TO 9.2.

I don't want to be held responsible for bricking your iPhone!

i've got 9.2 and used spirit with no issues


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: otanswell on Monday, June 21, 2010, 19:32:18
can i restore back to normal and upgrqde the os?

yes you can dear brother..
new jailbreak for os 4 to be released by the end of the week


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, June 21, 2010, 21:23:34
that using spirit?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: otanswell on Monday, June 21, 2010, 22:01:39
no not spirit, apparently theyve updated blackrain for os4


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, June 21, 2010, 22:16:55
blackrain never worked for me even on 3.1.2


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 07:08:09
I'm on 3.1.2 and it worked for me.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 07:41:29
i read somewhere it wouldn't work because of my modem firmware being too new. or something like that


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 07:49:31
your modem?? That doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 08:08:14
He means the baseband firmware, but that is what controls the modem part of the iPhone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 08:10:32
Baseband only affects your ability to unlock, not jailbreak.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 08:13:01
it was when trying Blackra1n. Spirit is fine


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 08:27:53
Having read a few blogs, I don't think I'll be upgrading to iOS4 any time soon.

For 3G users (me) there's no multi-tasking, no screen lock and no home screen wallpaper. All things I can currently do with a jailbroken 3G on 3.1.3.

The new features that are accesible are folders, threaded mail, 5x digital zoom, iBooks and game centre. The only one of those that appeals to me is folders and I can already do that.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 08:35:33
I won't be doing it either, as like you said, most of it can be done via a Jailbroken phone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 10:04:45
Anyone know if there is an easy way to tell if your iPhone is still carrier locked? (other than by trying another sim card)

I requested it to be unlocked via the O2 website. There was a message that flashed up saying something about unlocking when I upgraded to iOS 4 but I didn't really pay attention and it was gone before I knew it. So now I'm not sure.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 14:49:51
Arghh

it wont let me restore it so i can put os 4 onto it

cunting thing


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 14:56:34
Got my battery to last longer, didnt know the button on the top saved your screen battery etc on the top right! TWAT


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 14:58:30
So you've been carrying the phone round with the screen permanently on?

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:00:43
Arghh

it wont let me restore it so i can put os 4 onto it

cunting thing

Restore to what? The current firmware? The only thing you can't do on a 3GS is downgrade the firmware (unless you saved your blobs in Cydia - I'm guessing not). Regardless, you should still be able to restore to the current firmware e.g. if you jb'd 3.1.3 you should be able to restore to standard 3.1.3.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:07:56
It wont let me, something about it not being the right build?
This was when it said apple is verifying the restore.

it is a 3gs on 3.13, and i want to upgarde it to os 4.

It says i need to download itunes 9.2 too, however wont this fuck the phone? as your previous post eralier on in the thread said?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:08:30
So you've been carrying the phone round with the screen permanently on?

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Nah it went to lock with the wallpaper etc but that was it... totally not used to iphone ofcourse.. had the shit LG Cookie before. Getting used to it now. The text was a fiddle about being a fat bastard with fat fingers. Screen was at 50% battery yesterday by 12pm and started work at 8, today its 4pm and at 57%.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:13:06
tans cant you just run IOS4 without restoring


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:14:34
i dont know thats why im asking.

i thought if i upgraded my itunes it would fuck the phone?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:21:33
i'm on 9.2 and it's syncing ok


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:22:43
yes but i thought you couldnt use spirit with 9.2

or is that if thats the itunes you use when you jailbreak it?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:23:24
thats if it's the one you use when jailbreaking it.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:24:19
argh got you, so if its already jailbroken it will be fine?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:25:48
mine is so yours should be


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:26:58
Download iTunes 9.2 and upgrade to iOS4.

Just don't try and jailbreak it again using Spirit when you've done so.

I know Pwnage have already released a jailbreak for iOS4 but that's for Mac only. I'd imagine Spirit will be updated very soon. The Blackra1n guys are also releasing something to, supposedly will be called Limera1n.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:29:54
thanks


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 15:43:16
has it worked ok?

also will these themes still work the same on ISO4 or will they need tweaking? i'm liking my illumine theme


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 09:17:18
yes it worked, just need ios4 to be jailbroken now


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 09:58:07
did it remove your tomtom


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 09:59:13
no, its still on there, however it doesnt work as the update removes the jailbreak.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:01:43
If you've got a 3G I'd strongly recommend NOT upgrading to iOS 4. It's turned my phone in to a crock of shit.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:04:11
I really don't understand the need to upgrade to Ios4 if you have a jailbroken phone. You can get similar, or not better, elsewhere.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:04:53
i got a 3gs and it worked alright for me

whats it done to your phone jonny?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:07:08
i got a 3gs and it worked alright for me

whats it done to your phone jonny?

The 3GS has more ram and a faster processor.

My 3G is running really slow.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 13:38:23
Loads of ppl I know have said its wiped their phone by trying to upgrade!  They cant get any of the data back. (3G as my boyfriend has a 3Gs and his is working fine after the upgrade)

I think I'm going to sit tight.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 14:50:30
Loads of ppl I know have said its wiped their phone by trying to upgrade! 

Erm, that's kind of the whole point of upgrading the firmware.

All they need to do is restore from a previous backup and it'll put all their apps etc. back.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:04:10
i updated mine last night and now i can't use 3G internet or Send picture messages.
Tans is the same so could this be cos ours were jailbroken?

going down the Apple store at lunch to see if they can help


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:05:46
Has anyone with a jailbroken phone that has upgraded to IOS4 had any problems?

I cant browse the net unless my phone is connected to a wifi network, picture messaging wont work and 3g is patchy, Magicroundabout has the same problem

Help!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:11:12
also we're both Vodashit so this could be the problem.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: land_of_bo on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:29:30
Mine 3g interweb etc broke after the upgrade. I just reset using itunes and then when it reloaded it had os 4 and everything is ok now.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:37:13
http://www.ithinkdiff.com/fix-no-mms-issue-after-ios-4-update-on-iphone-3g3gs-12312/

http://www.ithinkdiff.com/lost-your-3g-data-connection-after-ios-4-update-try-these-fixes-751242/


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:48:29
cheers sambo will try these


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:54:04
ok internet working now.

but not got the camera icon to create mms messages or when i select a photo there is no option to add it to a message


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:55:13
Magic, I wouldn't take it down the apple store if you have jailbroken it. Can you not do a restore via itunes?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 09:57:04
i've removed the jailbreak sippo and installed ios4


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:01:28
Google suggests it's to do with upgrading the firmware to iOS4 and then restoring settings/apps etc. from a previous backup.

If you do a clean install of iOS4 again and then set it up as a new phone (i.e. don't restore from a previous backup) the functionality appears to come back.

In conclusion, always wait for the first revised version before upgrading to a complete new firmware :) Same kind of bugs appeared when 3.0 was released.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:04:30
the curiosity got the better of me last night so installed it.
Apple will do the restore if i go down later wont they?

my iphone will have no data on it to show it was jailbroken will it? Cydia etc has all been removed


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:06:57
Have you removed any installed 'non- appstore' apps?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:09:04
yup. all gone


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:15:48
If you've restored from a previous backup that was taken when your iPhone was jailbroken then there's a potential that they'll recognise it (even with no apps etc. present).

They can probably only offer a clean install anyway, which you can do yourself in iTunes.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:22:58
i'll have to do that later when i'm home. just wanted it sorted as it's driving me mad.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:34:51
bluetooth isn't working either. Fucking cunting cunty chops bollox shitty ios4 firmware


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:35:12
Told you not to do it...


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:35:43
That's what you get for being impatient :D


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 10:44:27
i know i know.

fucking annoyed now. gonna get apple to restore it to 3.1.3.



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, June 25, 2010, 11:15:30
i know i know.

fucking annoyed now. gonna get apple to restore it to 3.1.3.



You can do that yourself. If you Google for the iPhone 3.1.3 (or whatever) software you'll find it along with instructions on how to get iTunes to load it - pretty simply, I've had to do it a few times before.

If you're not bothered about restoring your previous backup, you can do a complete reset of the iPhone which clears everything . There is a special sequence of button presses and plugging it in that does it.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 25, 2010, 11:33:11
Anyone planning on getting an iPhone4 may want to hold off - it has a serious design flaw which kills reception if you, erm, hold it in your hand. You know, like you do with phones when making a call/sending texts. Or handheld devices (which I thought this was supposed to be) when sending texts/browsing the net etc.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/25/iphone4_antenna/

Or as the Register so beautifully put it "Version 4 not suited to use of opposable thumb"

For a company that prides itself on design and usability, this is a pretty massive fail. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: thedarkprince on Friday, June 25, 2010, 11:45:12
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/apple-forgot-to-hold-iphone-before-putting-it-in-the-shops-201006252853/

Quote
APPLE has admitted it forgot to make sure its new mobile phone worked before shipping millions of them to stores around the globe.

The company has advised owners of the new iPhone4 that the device should function normally as long as they do not try to hold it with their hands.

A spokesman said: "Holding it with your feet should be okay as long as you're wearing Jesus sandals or flippers.

"But to get the most from your new iPhone you really need to fashion a holding device made from a coathanger, a Kraft cheese single and a fish slice.

 :doh:


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 25, 2010, 11:53:06
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/apple-forgot-to-hold-iphone-before-putting-it-in-the-shops-201006252853/
Quote from: thedailymash
A source at Apple's Cupertino headquarters said: "When something looks that nice the idea of checking to make sure it works seems a bit rude. It would be like asking Sienna Miller the capital of Ecuador."

Nathan Muir, an iPhone owner, said: "This is not my first mobile phone. In fact I bought my first one in October 1998 and in less than a fortnight I had worked out how to hold it properly. But I have always been really good with technology.
 
"Over the years Steve Jobs has managed to come up with so many colourful and imaginative ways of saying he's fucked something into a cocked hat, but I think 'you're holding it wrong' is my new favourite."


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:18:19
The funny thing is that it only happens if you hold the phone in a certain way, unfortunately for Apple the certain way is the way that any normal person would hold it. They could easily of made it a non issue by making some minor design changes and moving the black spot, I guess they didn't as it would have spoiled the aesthetic look.

Will be interesting to see how they deal with it. Looks like they may have actually accepted it is an issue and realised that telling people to hold it differently isn't an acceptable solution.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:20:48
You can do that yourself. If you Google for the iPhone 3.1.3 (or whatever) software you'll find it along with instructions on how to get iTunes to load it - pretty simply, I've had to do it a few times before.

If you're not bothered about restoring your previous backup, you can do a complete reset of the iPhone which clears everything . There is a special sequence of button presses and plugging it in that does it.

yes i know but wanted it sorted asap. Apple have reset the phone so all apps etc have gone but i can restore using backup once i get home to get all my contacts etc back.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:37:42
Doesn't the signal issue only happen if you hold the phone left handed?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:56:02
It happens if you hold it normally in your left hand. Problems appears to be that there are two antennae's which are separated by a black band near the bottom of the left hand edge, when you put your hand over the band it connects the two and causes a short circuit / interference of some kind.

Hold it like Steve Jobs does and you're screwed....

[url width=434 height=296]http://images.macrumors.com/article/2010/06/24/202526-stevenote.jpg[/url]

** Edit **

Happens whether you are left or right handed as the black insulating band is on both sides.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, June 25, 2010, 13:20:12
Fuck me thats a design flaw on a par with microsofts decision that cooling in the original xbox 360's wasnt really that imporatant.



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 25, 2010, 14:19:15
Summed up by this quote from the BBC story on the issue:

Quote
When Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone 4 at Apple Worldwide Developers Conference, he described the integrated antenna as "really cool engineering".
See, that's the whole problem right there Steve - too much focus on cool, not nearly enough on engineering.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Friday, June 25, 2010, 19:17:40
Sorry to disappoint you all but mine works brilliantly!  Took literally 5 mins to transfer to micro sim and old sim to deactivate and no issues with how its held (yes I tried both hands).



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 25, 2010, 19:21:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkxdk9zpS98

Oh dear. I was thinking about getting one, but that does seem a slight issue.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, June 25, 2010, 19:39:05
Fuck me thats a design flaw on a par with microsofts decision that cooling in the original xbox 360's wasnt really that imporatant.



As an owner of an xbox 360 (with cooling) i would rather it blew up because it's marginally less silent than the average spitfire.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 25, 2010, 21:24:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkxdk9zpS98

Oh dear. I was thinking about getting one, but that does seem a slight issue.

all well and good but look how hard he's gripping the Iphone. you just WOULDN'T hold it like that


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 25, 2010, 21:33:43
Doesn't look excessive force to me. Its an embarrassing design fault, Apple will have to employ some lefty testers for the next release.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Whits on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 09:32:43
one of the guys at work showed me when the signal dropped - your fucked if you a lefty!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 09:53:11
I'm a lefty. I wasn't going to get one anyway, but I definitely won't now. I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple come out with a lefty specific model now.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Whits on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 09:59:17
i doubt they will, they are apple and untouchable, looking at the response from job yesterday they ain't gonna do shit!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: pauld on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 10:47:43
It does seem like it could be fixed relatively simply, by simply enclosing the antenna in the surround properly. And for existing units, some form of rubber iGromit to just cover the exposed bit would surely do the job? Although that would perhaps spoil the "cool" lovely aesthetics so Apple won't do it (after all, looking lovely is far more important than actually working properly), but I'd guess the aftermarket will


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:48:05
It's not just lefties though - how many people hold the phone in their left hand when browsing the internet (so touching the screen with their right)?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 13:00:55
I don't think it matters which hand you hold it in, the black band is on both sides - cover either and it's a problem.

It's funny how it isn't affecting everyone, I did read one article that reckoned it could be a production fault - with the correct finish not being applied to the antennae which would protect against a short.

Can't see Apple being able to sweep this under the carpet, despite what Steve Jobs seems to think.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 13:32:57
It just seems weird because Apple are usually very hot on making everything work well


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: thedarkprince on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 14:38:05
It just seems weird because Apple are usually very hot on making everything work well

eventually....

Edit: should I give myself a wooooosh?! Sarcasm doesn't work on forums.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 18:42:32
just been into our new BestBuy store and tried the iphone 4 out with Orange network and O2. they both do it whether you hold right or left handed.

dissapointed tbh


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: tans on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 19:29:55
One full restore and all is ok my iphone.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 09:20:44
Maybe not such a hardware design flaw then...

Quote
Reception issues observed by new iPhone 4 owners, derided as the "Death Grip" by bloggers, appears to actually be a software issue that an iOS update is expected to resolve early next week.

Identifying the problem

Clear observations of mobile signal strength and how they are affected by the placement of users' hands are difficult to perform in part because there are multiple factors involved in receiving a mobile radio link, including outside interference and the conductivity or mass of different people's hands.

Additionally, cellphones in general (and in particular the iPhone) have always only presented a very rough approximation of signal strength in the signal bar display, averaged over time. It appears that iOS 4, more so than previous iPhone software, presents a less accurate signal meter, showing less signal at times than an iPhone 3GS while still being able to achieve the same or better call quality.

This has led some to jump to the conclusion that the reception problems noted by some iPhone 4 users are the sign of a hardware design flaw related to its stainless steel band antenna design. Apple's chief executive Steve Jobs stoked a whiplash of blogger frenzy when he reportedly responded that users "were holding it the wrong way," blocking the signal with their hands.

A variety of people have demonstrated identical problems with other phones, from the Android based Nexus One to the iPhone 3GS. Yesterday, my wry tweet, "Blocking iPhone 4 antenna kills reception. Blocking mic kills audio, and covering the screen makes it impossible to see Retina Display" made it to the front page of Twitter and was retweeted more than a hundred times by people following the hullabaloo.

However, the fact that problems observed in the iPhone 3GS are much more pronounced when the device is upgraded to iOS 4 indicate that there is also a software issue involved in the matter. iPhone 4 users can't downgrade to earlier versions of the core software, making it impossible to compare its relative performance.

Software fix in the works

Readers report that Apple's tech support forums originally confirmed that a iOS 4.0.1 software fix addressing the issue would ship early next week (as early as Monday), before the comments were subsequently taken down along with all the other related discussion about the matter.

The fix is expected to address a issue in iOS 4 related to radio frequency calibration of the baseband. Readers who saw the original forum discussions say that the issue is believed to occur when switching frequencies; because the lag is allegedly not calibrated correctly, it results in the device reporting "no service" rather than switching to the frequency with the best signal to noise ratio.

iOS 4 introduced some enhancements to how the baseband selects which frequencies to use, so it makes sense that the error may have crept into those changes. Additionally, this explains why iOS 4 has also caused similar problems for iPhone 3GS users.

Additional readers have shared other related experiences that also corroborate the idea that the issue is related to iOS 4's software control of the baseband, including the fact that the issue seems easily reproducible when connecting to a WWAN 3G network but does not appear when connecting to a Microcell 3G. If the problem were simply hardware related issues of the antenna design, it should only affect iPhone 4 units with that new design and should occur at all times, regardless of the tower type. That is not being observed.

Talk to the hand

The core software problem is likely augmented by hand placement, as Jobs noted in pointing out that holding the new phone (or any mobile device) in such a way that attenuates the signal should simply be avoided.

Yesterday, antenna design expert Spencer Webb posted his early appraisal of the situation, noting that the FCC mandates that cell phone antennas need to be positioned as far away from the user's head as possible, effectively forcing antenna placement in the bottom of the phone, where it is most likely to be covered by the user's hand.

Webb also noted that neither the regulatory tests performed by the FCC during its approval process, nor the antenna efficiency tests performed by the carrier (AT&T) during its own device requirements testing take into account how a user's hand might play into the antenna design and the test results.

The bottom-mounted antenna design "evolved to meet [FCC] requirements," Webb explained. "And efficient transmission and reception while being held by a human hand are simply not design requirements!"

Webb points out that Bluetooth headsets also suffer from attenuation when the phone is positioned in such a way that the user's body absorbs too much of the signal. He assumed that the iPhone 4 design, which "moved the antenna action from the back of the phone to the sides," will likely only improve things when the phone is "suspended magically in air," but may actually make things worse when the phone is placed in the user's pocket.

At the same time, Webb says he voted with his dollars to buy the new iPhone 4 anyway, adding, "sometimes an antenna that's not great, but good enough, is good enough."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/25/death_grip_hysteria_may_end_monday_with_ios_4_01.html


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 19:53:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 19:59:25
Funny, but we're not going to be getting the Evo, which a shame.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 20:03:00
I thought that was the HTC that a load of people in this thread talked about, but now you say it it was the Desire! :)

I'm not down with the whole smart-phone thang.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, July 4, 2010, 08:34:40
Has anyone managed to jailbreak iOS 4.0 yet?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, July 26, 2010, 13:24:06
Yo people! I need to get those emocon thingys on my texts!
It says to download an app then set my keyboard to Japanese - then turn on Emoji??

where the hell is that??

is it cause I have an old Iphone maybes?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Mudfish on Monday, July 26, 2010, 13:31:44
Yo people! I need to get those emocon thingys on my texts!
It says to download an app then set my keyboard to Japanese - then turn on Emoji??

where the hell is that??

is it cause I have an old Iphone maybes?

Okay Download the App, Load the app and it should make the emoji's accessible. You need to then load up Settings>General>Keyboard>International Keyboards>Japanese>Emoji (Then Turn on should turn Blue) Back up and then during text you press the World Icon to load up your Emoji's. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, July 26, 2010, 13:33:41
Yes this is my problem
when I go to settings>keyboard>Japanese

there is no emoji option?? only Romanji or 10 ten key???


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Mudfish on Monday, July 26, 2010, 13:44:25
Yes this is my problem
when I go to settings>keyboard>Japanese

there is no emoji option?? only Romanji or 10 ten key???

Hmmm may be worth downloading a different emoji package. Have heard that some are only for 3G and 3GS can differ etc...


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, July 26, 2010, 13:54:03
Get the app Spell Number installed which is free. Then follow the instructions you'll find in the reviews of the app. I just did it and it was pretty quick and easy.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, July 26, 2010, 13:55:48
thats what Im doing?!?!?!! Im following those instructions but I dont have anything when I change my kepyboard to japanese to let me "turn on" emoji?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, July 26, 2010, 14:32:48
There will be an Emoji keyboard option.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 26, 2010, 14:46:27
Very helpful Jonny.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: strooood on Monday, July 26, 2010, 14:54:26
The Iphone is easily the best thing i have ever bought.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, July 26, 2010, 15:08:10
Very helpful Jonny.

I thought so. JFW was trying the Japanese keyboard rather than looking for the Emoji keyboard option. I made the same mistake at first.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, July 26, 2010, 16:16:26
dont have an emoji keyboard either! booooo


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, July 26, 2010, 17:13:28
1. Install the Spell Number app.
2. Open Spell Number, enter the number 91929394.59 then press return once.
3. Press the home button then open settings.
4. Select general, then keyboard, then international keyboards, then add new keyboards.
5. Select Emoji and you're done.

Works fine on my 3G with iOS 4, should work with iOS 3 as well.

The reason for all this effort is that whilst emoji is built in to the iPhone it is only available as standard in Japan (where they came from and became popular), fuck knows why Apple decided to limit them in this way. So you have to hack the phone to activate the keyboard option, which the above app does for you.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, July 26, 2010, 17:17:37
Oh I see
Can't seem to find that keyboard in my settings though? Might ask boys at work for help


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, August 2, 2010, 20:30:40
New jailbreak available for iOS4 (up to 4.0.1)

Just visit http://jailbreakme.com from Safari on your handset.

These dev guys are getting good.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, August 2, 2010, 20:36:38
It's also completely legal now as well isn't it? Or was it always?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, August 2, 2010, 20:51:36
Always was in the UK. It was a bit of a grey area in the USA, but it's just been declared as legal.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Monday, August 2, 2010, 21:02:20
I didn't think it was illegal, just invalidated your warranty and if it fucked your phone then Apple wouldn't help.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: oxford_fan on Monday, August 2, 2010, 22:33:49
Why would I want to jailbreak my iPhone?

What extra apps can you get?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 07:29:52
Why would I want to jailbreak my iPhone?

So that you can use the phone the way that you want to use it, not the way that Apple make you use it.

What extra apps can you get?

A whole load of them. There are plenty of 'alternative' app stores. And most of these 'alternative' apps offer far greater functionality than Apple would otherwise have made available through their own app store.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 08:03:37
£180 to repair the faulty audio jack on my iPhone 3g and I still have 11 months left on my contract, rats.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 09:21:44
You insured?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 09:26:29
i'd hope so at that price.

my bank insures mine for me


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:34:04
Check your home insurance. Mine is protected under that.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:53:46
£180 to repair the faulty audio jack on my iPhone 3g and I still have 11 months left on my contract, rats.

What happened to it? Did you fuck it up? Or did it fuck up on it's own?

Apple might try to stick rigidly to their 12 month warranty but it's just their time limit. I've read of a good few people challenging them on it and winning, getting their products repaired or replaced under warranty after the 12 months.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 16:02:09
I doubt it's on the home insurance, it's some weird policy that my girlfriend has through the Norwegian students union thingy.

I didn't break it, it's a fairly common issue with the 3G apparently.

My phone is jailbroken anyway, so that utterly voids the warranty.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 16:19:58
My phone is jailbroken anyway, so that utterly voids the warranty.

That doesn't void the warranty, you just need to do a factory restore through iTunes prior to taking it in.

If you don't mind spending a bit of time fighting Apple over it, you've got a good chance of getting it repaired for free.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, August 8, 2010, 17:54:18
Yoof, you can get the part for £5.99 on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/iPhone-3G-8GB-16GB-Black-Headphone-Jack-/350355411263?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item5192cf513f


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Sunday, September 19, 2010, 16:57:06
New jailbreak available for iOS4 (up to 4.0.1)

Just visit http://jailbreakme.com from Safari on your handset.

These dev guys are getting good.

I used this link to jailbreak my phone. Now when i plug my iphone into my laptop it says that there is a phone update, will updating lock my phone in anyway, is it safe to update?



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, September 19, 2010, 17:48:58
It won't lock it but it will remove the jailbreak and that method you used won't work again once you've upgraded.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Sunday, September 19, 2010, 17:59:07
It won't lock it but it will remove the jailbreak and that method you used won't work again once you've upgraded.

Thanks. I'm not that bothered about losing the jailbreak, i dont really understand what the benefit is to be honest. Plus as im out of the country i have no internet, so all i have is phone that cost shit loads to make calls on.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, September 19, 2010, 20:10:44
The only time I've heard of bricking being a possibility is trying to unlock a new and unsupported version of iOS, other than that it's been a while since it was a risk. I can't be arsed with unlocking either, couldn't see any real benefits except running pirated apps whilst making the phone harder to use and maintain. Plus it's worth keeping up to date with the upgrades to iOS at the moment as 4.1 and especially 4.2 add some nice new features.

Apple have stopped being dicks over the app store policy as well. They're letting pretty much everything through now as long as it ain't porn. Google Voice is coming (though fuck all use to anyone outside the US) and similar stuff they were blocking before.

The porn thing really pisses me off - as they don't allow it the parental controls are fucking shit. With the result of me having a panic attack every time my niece or nephew gets hold of my phone in case they navigate to my large and depraved collection of porn videos.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Thursday, March 3, 2011, 20:30:34
Help needed please.

Im having trouble with my phone connecting to my itunes. I open itunes on my laptop and its all good, i can play music from the library etc, but when i connect my iphone to the laptop the itunes  freezes. The phone works fine all the time, i just cant connect the two together to change music and podcasts and stuff.

I Have thought about reseting the phone but i will lose everything then, numbers and that. Can i save them somehow?

Any ideas anyone?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, March 3, 2011, 21:40:21
What OS are you running?

Windows 7 with SP1 recently installed by any chance?


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Thursday, March 3, 2011, 22:15:30
What OS are you running?

Windows 7 with SP1 recently installed by any chance?
Windows 7, yes.  SP1????


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, March 3, 2011, 22:23:45
Service Pack 1, came out a week or so ago, might have been installed automatically by Windows update.

If it has been installed that will probably be the cause as it contains a USB bug which can cause the problem you've got.

Simple solution, buy a Mac.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: cavpete on Friday, March 4, 2011, 07:35:36
Service Pack 1, came out a week or so ago, might have been installed automatically by Windows update.

If it has been installed that will probably be the cause as it contains a USB bug which can cause the problem you've got.

Simple solution, buy a Mac.



so how by buying a coat solve this problem ?  :D


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, March 4, 2011, 10:59:20
Service Pack 1, came out a week or so ago, might have been installed automatically by Windows update.

If it has been installed that will probably be the cause as it contains a USB bug which can cause the problem you've got.

Simple solution, buy a Mac.


mine works fine though!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, March 10, 2011, 22:17:45
Hello fellow mings
Need some help please
I've sold my old IPhone - I need to delete everything off it
What's the best way to do this please?
Much love
Xx


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Thursday, March 10, 2011, 22:23:40
Settings....General....scroll down to the bottom and press reset.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Whits on Thursday, March 10, 2011, 22:24:51
Hello fellow mings
Need some help please
I've sold my old IPhone - I need to delete everything off it
What's the best way to do this please?
Much love
Xx

a hammer


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, March 10, 2011, 22:25:26
As easy as that?
Omg what if you did that by accident!!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, March 10, 2011, 22:41:46
Thanks Nochee anyway I've pressed the button now :)
Can't help but think I've left something on there I needed......


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, March 10, 2011, 22:42:32
Thanks Nochee anyway I've pressed the button now :)
Can't help but think I've left something on there I needed......
Not now you haven't!


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Abrahammer on Saturday, March 12, 2011, 14:54:10
In the last day whenever i go into Safari, iPod, Itunes, App Store or open an e-mail on my phone it crashes and goes back to the home screen after about 1 second. I installed iOS 4.3 and it was fine for a while so im not sure it is that, the problem was shortly after i downloaded a podcast on the phone but i deleted that and it hasnt made any difference.

I have restored the phone but that made no difference either.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:49:21
Anyone know of an iphone repair shop in Swindon? Mine seems to have been swimming in a knocked over glass of water for most of the night and is now playing silly buggers.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Luci on Friday, June 17, 2011, 09:51:00
This may sound silly but try leaving it in an airing cupboard for 24 hours first.......quite a few people have said before that if its left to dry out completely its ok again.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:24:46
Yeah turn it off asap and leave it to dry for a day.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 17, 2011, 11:35:26
whilst i was in Magaluf a few weeks ago there was a group of lads by the pool and one got pushed in.

Upon exiting the pool he removed his iphone 4 from his pocket.

gutted.

that's one of the reasons i left mine at home


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 17, 2011, 12:52:04
Just get insurance you bopards


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Sippo on Friday, June 17, 2011, 13:44:52
If it doesn't work Western Computers in the brunel are a very good bunch of people.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Friday, June 17, 2011, 13:47:49
I just bought another one, this one has really had it. Just noticed a huge crack in the back as well, when did that happen?



Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, June 17, 2011, 15:08:16
Just get insurance you bopards

Home and car insurance I can understand. Insuring a phone is a step too far for me.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, June 17, 2011, 15:10:05
Home and car insurance I can understand. Insuring a phone is a step too far for me.

most bank accounts offer free phone insurance anyway. that's what i've got.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:20:58
most bank accounts offer free phone insurance anyway. that's what i've got.

That's another thing I'm not willing to pay for - the privilege of having a bank account. I've got a fee-free one with smile, but they have another option where you pay £10 a month and get insurance and stuff, sod that.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: nochee on Friday, June 17, 2011, 17:55:52
Its working now


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, November 28, 2011, 14:44:38
Anyone fancy chucking some pointers my way on Jailbreaking my iPhone 3GS please? I've done some searching but there seems many sites with many different methods and software and all kinds of shit.

I don't want to break it before I have a chance to find a reason to like it. :)


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 28, 2011, 14:47:40
If the Apple products are so brillant then why do you need to "jailbeak" them to gain full functionality?

I personally don't get it myself.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, November 28, 2011, 14:51:51
Apple laptop's are brilliant, everything else is gash. ;)

They lock their phones down to prevent you doing certain stuff. If you Jailbreak it you have an iphone that does what it should do anyway. Stupid, I know. But you're preaching to the choir.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, November 28, 2011, 14:54:19
Just Google for it, loads of guides on how to do it.

Though if you've got iOS 5 on it you're best off leaving it for the moment as they haven't cracked it properly yet.

Only use I've found for jail breaking is on my iPad, so I can run the Mame emulator. Which is pretty cool, you can use Wii controllers with it and connect it up to the TV - giving you a portable arcade machine.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, November 28, 2011, 14:56:02
They lock their phones down to prevent you doing certain stuff. If you Jailbreak it you have an iphone that does what it should do anyway. Stupid, I know. But you're preaching to the choir.

I prefer the walled garden approach. You've only got to look at all the hacks on Android devices through rogue apps to see why it's a good idea, but not for everyone I guess.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 28, 2011, 14:57:12
If the Apple products are so brillant then why do you need to "jailbeak" them to gain full functionality?

I personally don't get it myself.

We get it JJ, you aren't a fan of apple and its products! ;)


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, November 28, 2011, 15:11:56
I prefer the walled garden approach. You've only got to look at all the hacks on Android devices through rogue apps to see why it's a good idea, but not for everyone I guess.

It's only 4.3.3. I'm not doing it so I can run pirated crap, although there are good banned apps. I'm doing it because I have no intention of paying o2 to use my phone as a hotspot, it's made me so mad, I'm doing it on principle! How I use my data allowance shouldn't incur more cost if it's through my laptop via an iPhone.

I also want to be able to use Bluetooth properly and my phone as a modem (by USB) as and when I require it. Mame would also be good. Very good. :D


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, November 28, 2011, 15:16:45
O2 don't charge me anything extra to use my iPhone as a hotspot. They used to but on their current contracts (been out for a year or so) the hotspot usage is viewed as normal data and comes out the monthly allowance. You can use it via bluetooth, wifi or a USB connection and it just takes a few clicks on the iPhone to get it active.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, November 28, 2011, 15:33:50
It's only 4.3.3.

In that case, just visit www.jailbreakme.com from the iPhone browser. Easy.


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, November 28, 2011, 17:42:37
O2 don't charge me anything extra to use my iPhone as a hotspot. They used to but on their current contracts (been out for a year or so) the hotspot usage is viewed as normal data and comes out the monthly allowance. You can use it via bluetooth, wifi or a USB connection and it just takes a few clicks on the iPhone to get it active.

Oh, I'll get on to o2 then, because the iPhone allows pairing with my Mac, but, amusingly, refuses to allow my Mac to connect to it via BT. And tethering is completely disabled and my rudimentary research showed that you have to pay extra to be able to tether via BT, USB and Wifi.

I'm already getting a bit fucked off with my phone though. It keeps dropping wifi and likewise seems to keep informing me there's issues with my mail boxes. (Not that I actually want email on my iPhone, so it's a moot point.)

In that case, just visit www.jailbreakme.com from the iPhone browser. Easy.

Cheers Samdy. I might wait until o2 tell me exactly what I can and can't do before I do it anyway, because I'm thinking about buying Applecare on eBay in which case I don't want to ruin the warranty. :)


Title: Re: Iphone
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, November 28, 2011, 17:51:59
Think the tethering option needs to be activated by your carrier or it won't be available, as soon as I switched to the new style tariff it was there. Works a treat with my iPad and Mac, saved me having to buy a 3G iPad as well.

Possible you might have to sign a new contract, wasn't an issue for me as I got one of the new plans with my iPhone 4.