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not only on the pitch but in the streets,how long has parking been 8am to 10pm in the broad street area.it was always 6pm untill tonite so i didn,t look at the sign as i,ve parked in the same road on evening games.that,s £35 quid apoint and an evening down the drain   thanks swindon borough council.

It's been 10pm for nearly 20 years if you are in a Residents parking bay, which you clearly were.  6pm slots are available, but tend to be end of the street where there aren't any houses.

thats not true, it was 6 pm

besides residents parking hasn,t been going 20 years

I lived in Gladstone St and guarantee you it says 10pm on most of the parking areas.  from 8am to 10pm, 5 minutes parking only.  Doesn't apply on a Sunday.  There are some 1 hour spaces from 6pm and a very small amount of 2 hour ones.  Then there some very rare spots where it's just a clearway between 9am and 6pm Monday to Friday, meaning you can park there all day Saturday.

Not sure when it started, but it was prior to my 21st Birthday, which makes it at least 13 years.

i must have been lucky in the last 20 years you,ve cheered me up thanks

Theyve been clamping all the pakis going to the mosque so I dont see why you should be any different?

Lovely to see racism is alive and well. 

i was praying when they took the penalty does that count

Those fucking muslims are all the same; "spencer" has had it in for the pakis since one towed him away when he was at the mosque

Funnily enough I've had it in for the racists since a couple of mates got beaten to a pulp simply because of their skin colour.

Yeah well some of my best mates are racists and they're lovely people.

I'm not sure you'd say that if it was your skull that was fractured.

you're such a racistist.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/search/4064742.We_can_t_park_in_our_street_during_Friday_prayers/

Same rules for everyone.

Fractured skull? Meh. I got two legs nose and jaw broke and fractured skull by 4 asians if i wanna call them pakis i will

My point was not about your local area dispute with Mosque visitors of which I know nothing.  It was about the fact that you have turned this local dispute in to a tirade against all people who you call "Pakis" - as we all know this term is not just a colloquialism for nationals of Pakistan.  It is an offensive, outdated generic term for anyone considered to be from a very large area of the world, always used in a derogatory context.  Unless you know for a fact that every single person parking in your street at that time is in fact from Pakistan, in which case I salute your attention to detail...

And I got a broken nose, fractured collar bone and my phone and wallet nicked.  By white people.  But I guess all white people are like that aren't they.

Are you on the wind up or are you just a cock?

Thanks Ben

I live by the CG, yes most signs did change to 10pm

Anyone wanting temp residents permits on match day PM me, £5 each

Given that he has a pakistani (I think) in his avator I would guess it is a wind up.

where is tha harm in calling a Pakistani a Paki or a british person a Brit?

i don't see where the racism comes into it?

i had a book of parking tickets that were given to me by a pakistani workmate for £5 which ran out earlier this month.That,s the reason i know the times have changed i never used them on evening games before.

White wankers, are you ok now?

If the term 'Paki' did not have a history, you would have a point.  Sadly, it does.  It was widely used in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s to refer to people from the Indian sub continent and (as other have said) was always used in a derogatory and condescending way.  It has never been a term of endearment.

When you hear people use the word 'Paki', it says so much more about the person using the word than it does the individual being referred to.  (Invariably, they are either elderly or poorly educated, or both.)

not knowing very much about the history of the word Paki and the older generation who used it in the 50's, 60's and 70's i can only refer to now. to me Paki isn't a racism word but as you sau because of how it was used in the past then i can see why it would be. Shame really as everyone then seems to jump on it the minute anyone mentions the word. i.e. DMR comments towards Spencer. DMR is clearly the cock for jumping on the bandwagon in my opinion.

Also the press for jumping on Prince Harry when he refered to his Army mate as his "little paki friend".

Next thing everyone will be strung up for taking the piss ut of gingers as clearly thats in the same ball park is it not?!

Right on dude...pass the reefer man...

Just because to your ignorant of the fact it's a racist term doesn't mean it isn't.

I'm sure most gingers have been at the nasty end of a bit of ribbing now and again, but if you're claiming it's the same thing as the nasty organised racism towards asians from then, well, you're a bit stupid really.

Don't know if it's me just being high-and-mighty rahhhh man or something, but you're coming across as a bit of an idiot MR.

Gingerism is a major problem in todays society, and one i dont think is being tackled strongly enough

Gingers are cunts.

Gingers for justice

I know loads of gingers, but they shouldn't be employed or given public services above non-gingers.

ginger cunts are worse

pot kettle and all that Ben!!!

A colour of a mans skin or hair shouldn't be a reason to rib someone should it?! so therfore they are the same.

To be fair, i think the whole discrimination thing faced by black people has been a little worse than that faced by gingers

not denying that dave. just some people use the word ginger to take the piss etc and think nothing of it. Others use the word Paki and think the same. In a non derogatory way. Thats the point i'm making

But gingers haven't been discriminated against the same way as asians have.

Do you not understand that the recent history of the usage of a word has bearing on it's meaning - and also it's offensiveness, or do you just disagree?

The word Paki is derogatory whether you want it to be or not.

Ripping someone for being ginger, not so much.

Can you get Ginger Pakistani's?

i'm not denying the discrimination Ben. I haven't dennyed that. I just don't see it as being racist.
Derogatory maybe but only the same way that ginge is.

Its discrimination based on their race. How can it not be racist?

But it's not is it?

"paki" has a history of being a discriminatory term , "ginger" doesn't.

the word Paki is not racist to me. it is an abreviation of pakistani is it not? Who cares about what the older generation used 40 years ago. We're in the now and to me isn't racist.

They are discriminated by there race not by the word Paki. So thats not being racist.

really. try being a ginger then ben then you may see things differently

40 years ago? Are you serious?

It's still used as a racist term now. When you use it others consider it racist, however you meant it and however ignorant you are of how others used it.

People use the term paki as a derogatory term as part of discriminating against asians as a whole.




Yes I'm sure it's been terrible for you.

Oh, and a words meaning is not the same as it's etymology.

example then please on the word paki

Oh come on. The context and history in which a term is used obviously has a bearing. Would you seriously try and claim that for example there is a direct comparison to be made between the term "ginger" and the word "nigger"? Nigger comes from the Latin word for black, niger, but it is still widely and rightly recognised as an offensive and derogatory term when used by white people towards black people. And that offense is compounded because it comes with a history of decades of racist abuse, discrimination, violence and murder. The same goes with the term "Paki" - you use that term toward an Asian and it carries with it whole swathes of connotations, not from 40 years ago, but in the here and now. I don't remember reading about any of Ironside's BNP mates doing time for firebombing churches and scrawling "Gingers out" on the wall first. You know that's the context of what's being discussed here, so stop being so obtuse - as Ben says, you're just making yourself look stupid.

I'm saying that the meaning of a word isn't necessarily the same as it's origins. The word paki clearly comes from a shortening of Pakistani, but that doesn't mean it's picked up different meanings through it's usage.

Edit. I got beaten to my own response! Paul's was better anyway.

Magic, are you seriously suggesting that you'd quite happilly walk up to a stranger in the street and call him a Paki? Because that what your opinion would suggest.

And your argument for gingers doesn't wash. Yes, you don't like it and it can be seen as discriminatory, but the same could be said for someone calling me a fat cunt and the law allows it. Calling someone a Paki on the other hand is racial discrimination, which is a criminal offence.

guys your missing my point here. i simply stated i don't see using paki as being racist. derogatory yes. Which for that reason Sam no i wouldn't go up to someone and use the word paki nor would i call you a fat bastard or dave ginger. it's offensive and derogatry.

And we're saying that you're wrong. It is racist.

we could go round in circles here so we'll leave it that we don't agree.

You can not agree all you want, but a word's which main use is an offensive term based on the race of someone, with added bonus points of a history of being used as part of discrimination and hate based on race, is in fact, racist.

So you're still wrong.

I think we should leave it that everyone in the whole universe thinks you're a big wrong stupid trousers.

It's a derogatory term based on a person's race - what part of "racist" do you not understand exactly?

YOU'RE ALL FUCKING PAKI'S. SHUT UP!

The voice of the Righteous....

The voice of the extreme right.

they're probably bangladeshis anyway (east pakistanis)

 calling someone names because they are ginger is an attack on someones appearance.calling an asian person paki is because their ethnic origin.
both are insulting but are different

how did all this come out of a conversation about a parking ticket? bloody hell

This same debate happened on thisisstfc with a few people trying to claim paki is a neutral word or that saying its racist is being overly PC. Think I was basically the lone person pointing out the reasons outlined above as to why thats a weak argument.

The fact the same debate happened on thisis shows just how truly gay this thread is.

magicroundabout, this is superb. keep it up.

as for me "jumping on the bandwagon" well i'm not sure what you mean tbh. i asked spencer a legitamte question. just cos you're an ignorant bastard, surely it's you jumping on the bandwagon by sticking your oar in?

I've been away for 4 months, just flown back into the cold, the grey, the recession, jade goody and a relegation battle and this is the first thread I read.

Brilliant.  :soapy tit wank:

Did i miss owt?

no. swindon are still shit

The voice of the student communist...

he's not a communist he's an anarcho-syndicalist

The economic situation with all this "british jobs for british workers" etc. is going to be majorly capitalised on by the far right and its already begun.

Wrong on both counts. And you were the one calling me an enlightened liberal a couple of months ago. Looks like I'm back in the Nazi bad books again. Goodo.

No Paul, your just cock. always have been always will be a jumped up ignorant prick who seems to think that he knows how people should think and anything beyond that is wron. Self righteous prick.

Good day to you.

Nah, I just fucking hate Nazis. And yes I do mean you. Haven't you got a ginger social club you should be firebombing?

Maybe Magic meant Parki and not paki?

So wide of the mark you're pissing on the next blokes leg again...

will you two gayers get a fucking room!

Now that's what I call a phrase. 

as jamiesfuturewife said earlier how did a parking ticket move on to a race debate,i,ve won the £35 fine money on the casino --online gambling not the real thing so sod it.

Someone used the word paki in an unironic way, someone else called them up on it, then someone tried to claim its not a racist word. If you read the thread its clear.

Or maybe your question was a rhetorical one.

I dislike asains.
I dislike gingers.

and if I ever see a ginger asian I'll make sure that I really piss him off by callling him a gigger packi :)

I'd make sure you do GFM, cos if you wrote it down and handed it to him he'd have no fucking idea what a gigger packi was, I'm sure.

Ironic, in a thread about stereotyping, but I'm going to have to call you a spastic.

I like the word chinky.

i'm hungry

love it....brilliant

Now is chinky racist?  Does that have a history of being used in a negative way?  Or is that still acceptable?

Ha ha.

Brilliant. That's the best message on this whole god damn website.

...although not quite so good when repeated out of context.

Hmmmm.

Very much a time and a moment message, I'd warrant.

loads of tickets issued down broad street last night.

I used to have a landlord, who was a ginger Arab...Mr Al Hafiz.

Nice enough fella...absolutely loaded.  I believe a hafiz is someone who can recite the Koran verbatim...not sure whether he could or not.

I think this thread has probably run its course, but sod it, I've been drinking.  I always make this point to the "its just a shortened version of Pakistani" crowd - when you use that word, do you honestly know that the person you are speaking of/to is from Pakistan, or is it a judgement based on skin colour?  I have white skin.  So do many French people.  And many Germans.  And many Finns.  And many Canadians. 

While I'm ranting, I'd also like to argue that saying that you don't mean any offence is a nonsense - offence is taken, not given.  If I meet you in a pub and call you a c**t, and then say I meant it harmlessly, you may well still be offended.

I'd also like to add that I am enjoying a lovely Shiraz with some Oak Smoked cheddar.  Lovely.

White Ace and blackcurrant for me

Although I'm going to run out of blackcurrant before I run out of WhiteyA so I'm going to have to go hardcore later.

Can you sort my account so I can be Doore again?  You don't sound very busy...

Do I have to?
Meh. Ok.

You might get logged out for a second. check your email when you do

I'm back!  Nice one dude.

Where's JohnnyMoncs gone?

Why did the new style forum steal the first letters from everyone's sigs?

Just one of the weird things in the conversion of all the user details from the old one. Lot's of people still haven't noticed though.

Morphed back into Doore.  Same wit and intelligence, different name.

Can you change doores thing under his name to something witty like "bell" or "knob" or "to doore salesman"

I think it was done before, but it would cause much hilarity.

It would be ace, but I know his name isn't pronounced like that, so in my head it doesn't work.

How is it pronounced? doo-ray?

yeah. there should be a thingy over the e.

He's from somewhere foreign like Birmingham.

Dirty fucking northeners. How about "ray me fa so lat tee doo"??

Without the 'ray' obviously.