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Major fucking weird shit going on for me, i can't access Google or any Google products/products.

Loads of the Internet is out of bounds because any sites with Google Ads don't load and any sites with Analytics hang. I've changed ip and tried to access via Google's ip, and still have no access. I can access by other laptops on the network and can access when cabled, just not via wireless.

I've hunted for a solution and the closest i've come to finding a solution is using TKIP instead of AES with WPA-PSK security as apparently this appears to be a problem. This hasn't worked for me. But it does appear to be a wireless issue.

I can proxy in without issue and have performed a tracert on Google, withn no issue. I've also performed a tracert on my dns and several ips i've used. No unusual DNS settings are running and i also don't have any viruses or Spyware.

Anyone have any ideas they wanna throw out there please?

This is driving me insane. You really have no idea quite how much of the Internet is using Google's services! :)

Tried using a different browser?

Oh yeah, sorry tried that as well thanks Sam. I even switched user agents to see if there was something related to that, but again, nothing. One other thing i forgot to mention, just because someone will tell me to do it :), Cookies/Cache have been cleaned along with wiping the Flash cache of any cookies.

Any reference to Google in your hosts file?

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Hadn't checked that Sam, so got a bit hopeful there, but no Google. I forgot to mention that i've flushed dns as well. And turning it on and off also failed to work thanks gk-nash.

This is only a Wireless issue from my laptop. Friends laptops and cabled access is fine through the same router. That's what i find really fucking weird, especially as my pc comes up clean on all scans performed so far.

Haven't got some random MAC filtering set on the router have you?

Or if it's just your laptop then have you checked firewall and TCP-IP settings?

Barry this happened to me all day Monday

Kept having to reset my wireless router and it was fine for 10 minute then started to hang again.

Tried it last night and it was stable

Very wierd shit

I've been wondering if it's the Firewall, because a few months ago i changed firewall and it's a pretty complex little fucker with warnings when you even copy and paste from a browser window. I'll disable it in a minute and go wireless again, because i've been uninstalling software like crazy incase it's something i've installed.

I do have MAC address filtering on my router, not in any weird config or anything though - there's about 10 MAC addresses allowed access. Can this cause problems then? I'll disable that as well, i mean it's not as if i have no security on the router! :)

Yeah, i had it once before, months and months ago, but could still access by ip then, now i can't access regardless. I hate being without Google for too long! I'm sure it will right itself in the end. :)

With the fact that it's specific to my PC, kinda implies that this is a solvable problem. I'm invariably wrong on some level though. :D

I thought it may have been a conflict between Firefox and AVG, but it was happening with Chrome as well

Yeah, i came across someone saying something about AVG, maybe i'll fuck it off, because i keep meaning to move to Kaspersky and this problem is driving me insane. (My Ethernet cable is only about 1.5m long so can't sit at a desk!)

Removed AVG and MAC address filtering, still no access. Someone said the best Spyware software is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, so am currently scanning with that in the vain hope the problem can be solved. It has so far found 2 infections, which is 2 more than Spybot and Ad-Aware found, so fingers crossed. Firewall to go next.

Try updating your wireless drivers...
Disable all security on the router, if this works then add back in one at a time...
Windows upadtes?!

I'm at a loss, that's a weird problem.

Cheers for the ideas Jay, but just solved it, well, solved is a touch of an overstatement. It's the cunting firewall.

It was blocking inbound packets to certain ports that were all from Google. I'm not too familiar with Network traffic and ports, but it seems strange why Google seems to be sending traffic to random ports all over the place. I'll have to work out how to allow these packets, because the Firewall is great, just a touch intrusive it would seem.

Also, why does it allow this traffic when cabled? And why has this problem only just occured?

Anyone know anything about this inbound traffic malarkey, because i wasn't aware the internet used a massive range of ports?

Thanks for everybody's help. :)

Different applications use different ports, think of it as a kind of  'address' so the computer knows which application to send the inbound packets (data) to. For example, port 80 is HTML so it can direct it to the web browser "listening" on port 80, pop3 is port 110 so it can direct  email stuff to teh application "listening" on port 110.

The firewall probably works per interface, so LAN has different settings (rules) to the WLAN, etc, etc.

If the firewall has previously worked and now doesn't, something has changes (dum dum dummmmm). Either you have inadvertently changed a rule or firewall security setting (low->High), or your PC has picked up something nasty

One thing you could look at is comparing the setup for the cabled interface v wlan interface and not the differences. Assuming rules work per interface and are not global to all interfaces of course.

Before opening up all the ports, I'd suggest posting some of them on here. It's probably OK and legit , but you don't want to open up ports necessarily as this is how malicious programs get access to the PC and what the firewall stops.

Could possibly be irael's fault

Fuckin' Jews again then.

There's no consistency, they range from 3000 odd right through to 57,000, that i've just checked anyway. They're all incoming tcp packets.

I've attached an excel spreadsheetl of all the info, but as this doesn't appear to show the ports that i get when i right click the blocked packets, i've attched a screenshot of a few.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :D

Tried uninstalling Google toolbar?

I don't have it Sam, i think it's the domain the firewall associates with some of the Google queries. What i mean by that is, the Firewall actually only receives an IP (216.239.59.103), but it then queries the ip for a domain to place within the firewall for the users convenience, or something like that. I think. :)

I actually think it associates the vast majority of 216.239.59.XXX with that Google sub-domain.   

Actually, looking at your screenshot again, your firewall isn't recognising Google as normal HTTP traffic. I'd say it could be something to do with your wireless settings in the laptop, but no idea what :D

Have you tried removing your wireless card in device manager and rebooting so it redetects and defaults the settings?

I haven't. And i'm almost scared to in case after all i've been through it works! :D

Oh, and thanks for that Sam. :)

I should just get another Firewall, because with it off, Google works.

Here's another screenshot, which probably serves no purpose, but seemed to say something of sorts.

I just unchecked a box and bingo... Hmmm... So simple.  :-[

Although the firewall has an exclamation mark through it's icon now, which might mean i may as well have it turned off!

Packet filtering is basically how your firewall works, so without it the firewall is disabled.

It's IP based, so like you said in an earlier post, all Google pages get resolved as the same IP and hence get filtered. Try setting a rule in the firewall to allow the Google IP range and then see if you still get the same problem.

Did this used to work over wireless Barry?

Anyway I assume all of those requests are from port 80 to port X? Hard to tell from the screenshot/spreadsheet. If so it's probably OK. Your browser will use different port nums when it creates a new TCP connection, but the other end will always be ports 80 for http.

Not sure why things would suddenly change if it used to work and why the LAN works but the WLAN doesn't. Nor why Google would be filtered out by default!

Yeah, it's crazy and yes, until yesterday it worked without any issues wirelessly. Nothing at all had changed apart from a few firefox plugins, now gone. I have tracked all traffic and you're right it seems to be port 80 or 100, and those other ports are clearly related to something beyond my understanding.

Thinking about it, it's possible the firewall updated and caused a problem, because i think it does it silently.

I think i'll see if i can do what Sam says, or just right click through all the Google blocked packets and add them as a rule or whatever it is that makes it go through.

Thanks again.

You need to make the wireless network part of the trusted zone. Try it and see if that works.

Oh and if that doesn't work then update windows. I used to get problems with my old firewall and it turned out a hotfix from Microsoft update fixed the issue.

OR

If windows updated recently it could be the update itself causing it.

That sounds like a prize wining solution Mr Pie (the trusted zone thing, can't update Windows). I have absolutely no doubt i'll leave another message in the morning about this, because i'm not to down with the new firewall yet so i'm sure to have a spot of fun fiddling! Cheers. :)

In theory I'm not sure it should make a difference but I know zonealarm behaved strangely under certain settings.

It's driving me completely insane, i cannot get this working. I loved this firewall, now i hate it with a passion. It seems no matter what i do, nothing works. Also, for whatever reason, even with the firewall off or connected to the router via ethernet, i'm not getting Google now. Honestly, not being allowed any Google access is so infuriating, it seems like 99% of sites, at least that i'm trying to use, have Adsense or Analytics and most sites hang. I'm going to have to find a new firewall.

You sure you don't have some malware?

I was having problems with google redirecting the other month. Eventually got it sorted, but it was a right bugger.

I am 4 hours into trying to solve that exact problem now. Anti virus tools are scarce for Windows 2k8 enterprise...

I know I'm using xp but I had to turn off system restore, run AVG anti virus in safe mode, then reboot and run spybot in safe mode, followed by reboot and running malwarebytes in safe mode.

Is this (http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/2008/03/08/security-software/) link of any use?

Try this:

Boot to DOS
cd\
format C:\

good effort. There is no dos in 2k8.

That was the site that inspired me to try it. Apart from my virus problem it's be fucking ace.

I've checked with pretty much every tool of note and they all came up clean apart from Malwarebytes, which found some insignificant and unrelated reg entries.

I've tried Comodo and Outpost now, and they give me the same problem, so to save myself anymore stress, i'm on Windows Firewall. I've just had enough. Trying to use the internet with all Google traffic being refused is beyond frustrating. I was on the verge of buying a new pc such was my annoyance. And i don't have the money. And it wouldn't solve the problem! :D

Definitely sounds like abnormal behaviour is causing it, not the firewall.

Sadly after trying for hours and hours I had to reinstall. Just finished and it's all working dandy now. Good luck Bazza.