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A point would be a good point.

Just gonna have a shower, walk the dog (Quickly) and then on my way to pick up my lad, Sam and axs.

Hope the weather is better in Huddersfield, it's pissing it down here.

That doesn't make sense.

I'd forgotten how much I detest getting up early on Saturdays to go to some grim northern town to watch a crap game of football.

I was going to go until I saw the weather report.
Severe Gale warning and torrential rain, wind speeds in excess of 80 mph.

No thanks.

A Charming day ahead I'm sure.

Good job we're going to win in spectacular fashion.

Nice Stadium Huddersfield - good Balti pies too if I remember rightly.

Have a good day and don't come back if you haven't got a point or 3 to bring with you :D

I'm off to buy a decent hoover that will actually pick up bloody dog hair. Knew £25 for the last one was too good to be true.

3 points today please fellas.

I'll be clearing up cat shit and tidying my sister-in-laws bomb sight of a kitchen

(She did get rushed to hospital with a bowel hernia yesterday, so.....)

Can't wait........

anything less than a win isnt good enough.

can't really expect us to pick up a win away at a team chasing the play-offs but i see what you're saying.

i'd settle for a point

I never said I expected us to win, infact the opposite but the position we are in 2 points from games against Stockport and Huddersfield isnt good enough.

 a point on the road is a decent result.i'd deffo take that today.
was going to go to supermarine but cannot be arsed.just gave the dog a good run, so will have a few bets and crack open some lagers.

I would take a point, be ecstatic with 3 and would love a clean sheet.

Might be pessimistic but I cant see us getting much but so want me to be wrong.

Barry Corr is 3/1 on Bet365 to score during the game :/

Well no real surprises in todays starting line up, no Chris Allen playing.

what's the lineup?

Brez

Amankwaah
Ifil
Kanyuka
Smith

Timlin
Pook
Peacock
McGovern

Paynter
Cox

I think.

no crazy lineup :( damn

Solid looking midfield, I am quite happy with the line up.

booo, easton dropped? especially after peacocks awful performance!

on the plus side i've just cooked some veggie hotdogs with cheese and onions with condiments as follows: mayo, american mustard or english mustard, ketchup, brown sauce (a variety in each roll)

Where's that bloody JPC, spouting his wingbacks/sweeper nonsense?! ;)

Easton isnt f
Easton isnt dropped hes injured.

Substitutes (from): Phil Smith (GK), Anthony McNamee, Lilian Nalis, Blair Sturrock, Chris Allen, Yinka Casal, Craig Easton

Not much width really looks like he will be playing it tight in midfield today, I know Timlin is left sided but I think we wont be playing with much width today, with JPM playing behind the front 2 but more biased on the right with a kinda 4-3-1-2 formation with little width.

doh!

Peacock and Timlin have been gash recently and Pook's useless, so I fail to see how that midfield constitutes solid. I'll be amazed if we nick a point.

I'm expecting 3-0 Udders today.  A point would be a good return.

All 3 players you discuss can get box to box and are quite strong defensively so that would make them solid for me.

Maybe Jack Smith is playing as a sweeper

Timlin's been gash recently at left back, lets be fair

Why on earth would you play this version of this song. I may have to firebomb RS :/

who is this?

it's shocking

oh my

I will never be confident with the "2ps" in the middle im afraid.

My thoughts exactly.

David Bowie is spinning in the grave he doesn't have yet.

lulu

i can't see us getting anything today. saying that i can't remember the last game i went to, so my opinion is based on nothing whatsoever.

i actually prefer the nirvana unplugged version

ooh i think RS have left the commentary on :)

Easton must be injured, not in the 16.

Interesting line up...we'll see what happens.

Amankwaah, Kanyuka & Pook dont fill me with confidence I must admit.

Adver say Easton is on the bench :S

It's gone  >:(

spoke to soon. cunts. im off down the gym.

let's be brutally honest here.all our players are a bit shit really,they all have games where they play well,but equally they all have utter shit performances.thats league 1 for you,at least at our bottom scraping shite level anyway.

official site says the subs are Smith, Nalis, McNamee, Sturrock & Allen

i can't hear amankwaah's name without hearing agadoo by black lace.

Hope Casal enjoyed his bus trip

sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, can anyone explain why RS stops the commentary online? Surely this doesnt happen on a radio? I live in Swansea and need some commentary!?!

You have to pay you tight git!

They dont have the license to broadcast it

I'm a poor student though, surely you dont expect me to spend my hard earned student debt on it :) ha ha

Its not worth it anyway,believe me!

Hereford 2-0 up against Oldham!!!

thats how bad it is im looking out for other teams results.

Score in a minute

There gonna score in a minute

Fuck me here comes the customary onslaught

to be fair, thats when we conceed a goal after we've provided the onslaught!

So maybe we'll score after a Huddersfield goalless onslaught!

i've connected up my old hifi and manager to find the one area in my flat that has signal...shame the window is open though...brrrr

try closing it?

Kanyuka doing his jelly impersonation apparently

in order to pick up a signal it appears to need to balance between the ajar frame and the open window, thank you for your advice though

turned the radio off for a sec (well, minute) - have we lost?

Is it any suprise our defence seems so disorganised when none of them would say boo to a goose. We need aljofree, or at the very least vincent. Experienced Center half is a must.

bollocks, thats one accumulator down the pan

Who's the co-commentator ?

Good stream for Bolton v Man United

http://www.indolivetv.com/bpl-bolton-manchester-utd

haha, aljofree has as much chance as solving our organisational problems as i do of acquiring the US presidency next week.

BBC leeds havnt switched theres off  :)

try this http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/local_radio/

Fuck me a corner!

good find!!

Happy Days!!!!

thanks div. ace.

wow did someone just knock over vidic!!!

you're all welcome to come and share my lovely digital radio if you can work out where i live.

Thought you were going down the gym?

Thanks Div ... from freezing central Russia.

"swindons defences are creaking"

oh dear

 we're lulling them into a false sense of security ...

Curtis Weston scores.FFS he'd probably be our best player if he was still here!

hehehehe makakakula knocked him over, that was fun. and then the guy running around the centre circle was a bit mental

Curtis Weston had an even worse attitude than the players weve ended up with.

hereford 3-0 up now!?

we're fucked

I'll tell you why,Mr Co-Commentator,Pook gets stick.Its because he's shite!

this is depressing listening

This sounds like one of my FM 2009 teams.

Others have been worse but dont get stick

I think Town will win this ...

" Poor Danny Wilsons facial expression says what have i come to here?"

Names?

mcnamee

mcnamee
ifil
jack smith
timlin
peacock
morrison

Pook hasn't really had any stick this season has he? Not more than anyone else I don't think?

Are you joking?McN Ifil Timlin and Peacock have had loads of stick on this forum and Smith been worse than Pook?You cant mean it

"brezovan looks at his defenders and says am i on my own this afternoon?"

"Kamikaze defending from the Swindon players"

Wonderful...

Kamikaze ... our new centre half?

"ifi's exactly the right character for that but he's not the right character for that" (or something to that effect)

our commentators are as bumbling as the defence

They must be playing the suicide trap

i shouldnt have found the link. im getting annoyed.

We are just shit this afternoon by the sounds of it (other than brez).

Do any of them get the same amount of abuse pook gets? Non monsieur, they do not.

Jack "stand off" smith is vastly overated imo. Poor stamina, on par with ifil in the confidence fragility stakes and mildly inept defensively.

Keiran O'Regan at the ground-I loved him

pook does get caught in possession, and does give the ball away at times,but always gives 100%.for that reason he shouldn't get booed.ironicly cheering corr going off with a dislocated shoulder by his own supposed suppoerters says it all about some of the town fans.utter morons

hereford 4-0 up

hereford for fuck sake

that never happened?

well, not enough that I noticed anything

It did Dan, though it was only the odd wanker here and there.

For those without access to Radio Commentary, you're lucky.

Wilson Out! :D

are we winning yet?

nothing around me, angry shout man doesnt come anymore and his mate just abuses McGovern.

Last game JPM takes a short corner to Jack Smith 'for fuck sake McGovern you're shit' umm what!??!

everyone can access the link div provided. I quite like this commentary, its a better standard than ours.

haha he's a dick!

I knew my inability to get RS or RW was a blessing in disguise.

I've got access through numerous means but I've chosen to watch the snooker.

Of course, I should have realised your section of the DRS behaves just like the rest of the ground.

shouldn't you be at the gym?

We've survived till half time.

in silence?

Half-time, 0-0. Great performance from Town. Unfortunately, not Swindon.

yes i should, this is shit, im off.

woohoo we are staying up!

Sounds like we're very lucky to go in on level terms. Hopefully it can only get better.

fuckin hell Hereford 4 Oldham 0

Fair enough mon fils-but I dont agree. Peacs Timlin and Ifil have had dog's abuse on here and conversely Pook gets practically nil.Take your point about Smith but by general concensus he's been one of our most consistent players so far.That's opinions for you!

i know it's all opinions and lark, but get out

ahahaha, fotc on hip hop half time, ace

Hiphoppopotamus quality :)

no its not

No changes

Vic Morgan just went up massively in my estimation by threatening violence against the drum.

not surpirsed our bench looks pretty weak

Another fine save by Brez

Balls.

1-0 them.

only suprise is that took so fucking long.

going down, going down, going down

MALPAS OUT

oh dear

Thought Kanyuka might have been put out of his misery

=(

That is all

agreed - i couldn't believe we went in at half time with a clean sheet

Unfortuneately, no defender on the bench. Is Morrison dead?

cheltenham winning now as well

That stat cant be right-"Huddersfield are the worst team at holding a lead".That must be us,surely?

Bloody hell. Come on you cunts......

I'm now convinced that we're going down.
Hopefully Wilson will stay the course though and get us back up.
The board MUST invest in the playing squad fairly heavily (compared to our usual £50k signing and assorted freebies)

Cheltenham 1 up at Colchester.

Couldn't agree more ironside

1-1 now cheltenham and colchester

we're 2-0 down.

nothing changes, 6 weeks wait for fuck all

i'd agree

League 2 was fun last time..... :(

i'm agreeing with you once more  :(

FOR FUCK SAKE SIGN SOMEONE! The players on the pitch are all useless overpaid cunts.

Bloody Orient winning now

Hereford have now scored 5 [FIVE]

Mass clear out required.  Rebuild and bring some of the yoofs in, even if we have to go down to do it!

I also agree.

I actually think that quite a bit more money needs to be invested in players than AF may be prepared to do. A bit of money is going to have to be spent at some point.

they've let nick chadwick go to shrewsbury recently as well.

woooooo

here comes McNamee, at least the away fans will get to see a few step overs.

wank wank wank wank

Chelsea 0 - 1 Stoke!

Ideally that point is right fucking now....

red card for Kanyuka....thank fuck, we MIGHT play better now

Kanyuka Off!

Now Crewe have scored-it just keeps getting worse and worse

oh dear pat

For anyone who is sick of listening to this dross, I would recommend Ski Jumping from Poland which Eurosport are currently showing. I am delighted to report that there is a German competitior taking part by the name of Andreas Wank (yes I know you pronounce it Vank but I still think it's funny)

Kanyuka off...Ski Jumping it is for me..COME ON WANK!!!!

Sack the Squad, Sack the squad, Sack the squad!

FUCK OFF KANYUKA I am so fucked off right now.

I'm pleased Kanyuka has been sent off - at least we can't have him on the pitch for a few matches

Sturrock coming on????

What was he sent off for? I gave up listening to the commentary

Why bother with a back four-just play 3 at the back FFS

i'm weirdly not, i knew not going this weekend was the right decision

Thats a relief, will keep "Cow" Pat out for a game or two. Possibly the only positive to come from the ensuing defeat.

Dragged the man back, last man!

holding back someone clean through.

yay sturrock is coming on

At least Morrison will get a chance again....just cant fathom why hes not playing.

Wilsons made us worse than we were  ???

Wilson out!

Shit I was gonna have some Stoke 1st goal action but got up to late >:(

This 5 year plan things looking a bit shakey isnt it...

I actually saw that in the boozer last week.  They also have one who's name looks like Vagina.

I agree, we should extend it again, to 7 years, with possible future add ons in the likely case of an emergency

"Down with the Brighton,we're going down with the Brighton"

Nobody likes losing, but this defeat and sending off will make replacements more urgent.  The message is simple, reinforcements urgently needed.  

it was a 3 year plan to start with?

1 year in and we've taken a huge step backwards

You were right all along

No worries, quantum leap is all we need next year

If the 3 teams below us win their game in hand we are 3rd from bottom!

Happy Days!

Easton IS there-WTF?

a mexican fucking wave for fuck sake whilst fucking losing to fucking huddersfield oh my fucking god we are fucking shit for fuck sake

Could of fired a few more fucks in there surely?

I havent heard Pook, Peacock, JPM, McNamee or Timlins names mentioned more than twice all game

Time for fitton and co to release some much needed funds for wilson.

So Easton WAS dropped for Pook then-Wilson out!

cheltenham losing YES!!! waahoooo best thing so far today.

Now we need Rovers to score twice and Scunny to get another one and Oldham to get 6

And us to get three.

dont be fucking stupid leefer!!!

more chance of Oldham getting 6

oooh 1 for Rovers

The last year

One of the best defensive teams to one of the worst
had 2 good goalkeepers now both are shit
We were able to sign several players before now no one wants to join us

There is a major problem at the club and fuck knows what it is... FUCKING SORT IT OUT!

Oh well - at least we have something to play for and the season will stay interesting - we never do mid table medocrity do we..... ::)

Agree - it is very worrying

"Queing up to score"
"MExican wave"

Utter wank

To be fair-sounds as if Brez has played well

2 for rovers!

Vankers

I'm off to play COD on the PS3, need to blow some twat up, otherwise one the dogs gets it!

I meant over the course of the season really.... bloody shokcing... for the amount of players out of contract it is quite concerning. Perhaps they just dont want to play here? fuck knows.

Wahey-MUCKDONS."Two-nil and you fucked it up"-makes me feel slightly better

nice to see Big Sams Blackburn dicking Newcastle as well

Sounds like bollox from the radio commentary.
Looks like bollox from a mate at the game.

My opinion:
Shit defence. Amankwha, Casal and Kanyuka can fuck off
Shit midfield. You don't go anywhere with Pook and Peacock as your best central midfield two. Timlin and Easton have been turd. Nalis is best before 2008.
Only one goal scoring striker who seems to be lacking in any confidence whatsoever.

Other than that a total lack of confidence or fight. Hooray.

you forgot wingers that cant cross batch

this is so depressing.

I'm bored of us being shit.

Sounds about right

Stoke were 15/1....longest odds in any league today.
I'm annoyed i didnt stick a few quid on.

Come on Villa!Fuckin hell its so bad,I'm thinking about the fucking Premiershit!

Wilson must wonder what he's got himself into.

why are they talking about time to get people in? DW has been here, it sounds as if he's been trying but how hard can it be?!?!?!

...and the shit coaching staff!

The fact I forgot McNamee and JPM tells its own story, though JPM does at least seem to be working hard of late.

Well what a surprise - a shot on target and Cox gets in the way
 :doh:

Whats most concerning is we are absolutely shite but no one wants to seem to come and join us. We havent signed anyone in ages on loan or anything, No one wants to come to Swindon by the looks of it.

if we dont have at least 3 new players in by the next game we might as well admit defeat.

these players arent good enough and we've got to get new players in. money/wages/agents shouldnt matter.

players.in.now

Chelseas 0 Stoke 1, missed that one. Snigger.

woohoo 2-1!

GOOOOOALLL COX

1-1 now.

YEEEES

lets have 2 and 3 now!

Fucking Manure!

Sturrock on the wing next game!

I agree. What's going to be more expensive, going down or spending some cash on some decent players?

GET IN COXY LAD. if nothing else, a little confidence booster.

GO ON ONE MORE haha

We scored? No. Way.

oh everything is good again

Now Cox has scored 1 he's scored 1.

Wise words

Your going a bit mental considering you actually predicted a 2-1 loss for us.
I thought we would lose today, and we are going to, so i'm obviously disapointed but as i expected it (as did you) its not a major blow.

going down will be cheaper, hence we are more likely to take that route that spend

Well if anything maybe cox will have a bit of confidence now but lets get some fucking players in!

crewe get late winner

I expected us to lose today but it's the nature of the gutless performances that's annoying me, just so insipid an dull.

Hereford 5 (five) Oldham 0. WTF??!

wilson makes a good point that if we're to get loan players in, which is cheaper, that there's no point doing it until nhext week, because they'd waste being here as we have no game for 10 days. I expect this week to be fairly active.

i'm relatively sure training for 10 days would be a positive...oh...

If Fitton and co don't put their hands in their pockets now I'll be very upset. You're either here to make a good fist of it or what's the point, the honeymoon periods done, sort it out and GET SOME FUCKING QUALITY IN.

No point in getting 1 month loaners in. Need loans until the end of the season. As Bennett says, 10 days familiarisation is worth the extra weeks wages.

but MR, that still doesn;t resolve he issue of why our otherwise good players are now rubbish?

Yes we need new players, but why are we underperforming?

You just cant see us ever doing anything like that can you?

Very hard to change players mentality let alone ability, when the vast majority are shite.

The board have been in denial for sometime that we're in serious trouble.Watkins only the

week before Wilson joined,made a long statement saying that we had a "great squad" and

needed a manager who coulde organise and motivate.They weren't honest with Wilson as

to the extent of our problems.

i was being sarky about our shitness following our weeks off and training...

i really can't understand the reluctance of the board to put their hands in their pockets.

because no fucker who gets another offer wants to come here.

all we can is people no one else wants like Nalis, Amankwaah and Casal.

Sounds like Salisbury had a hot reception when they came back to the dressing room.

To the board, we need signings now. We need 2 new full backs and a central defender. This side has no balance, too many sheep, bad mentality, we are going down unless you get your fingers out and sign some decent defensive players.

Our shambles at the back has gone on long enough.

Even a year ago they said that if young players who had great potential to be developed at
STFC could be signed.I can remember certain posters on here saying this.

Clearly we have over rated out players as we all have seen tehm play better, maybe genuinly they are just shit. is it the coaching? must be? Somethings really fucked up but no cunt wants to play here, even the players under contract, their constant gutless performances show this.

They are trying to run the club at sensible, manageable, levels of loss.

I doubt they have that much disposable £ to piss into the club.

At least Cox has managed to score. If he hadn't missed a hatful of chances recently we'd have picked up more points. Of course, you cannot rely on one player and most of the team has been shit.

But it'll be good if he gets back to his goalscoring ways as soon as possible, hopefully this is the start of the more confident performances we're used to seeing.

As for the rest of the team. Oh dear. Wilson has got lots of work to, I'm sure he knew how bad we were before we came here.

i realise that but why aren't players willing to come here? what's wrong with the setup?

money talks.

i had a fiver on it!

...and we stay 18th

Sturrock seemed to create all of our chances. I think id rather him on the wing than McNamee

I'm fucking livid. This is all bollocks.

Somebody's impregnated my Hazel Irvine.

The players have moaned about the home crowd before, but to be honest they havnt seen nothing yet.

If they dont start busting a gut then they are going to get it in the ear. They are Not going to play this wishy washy half arsed shit every weekend and get away with it.

never mind ! it's only a fiver
is it such a problem to only lose by one goal away when you are down to 10 men with 25 minutes to go?

We give the players nothing like the shit that they get at other clubs.If they can't be bothered
and the board won't free up money for players then we might as well play the youngsters who
would care.We'd go down,but at least they'd try and they'd get some experience.

The players will get an absolute battering unless we beat Walsall in just over a weeks time....

yes it is a problem if you were listening to how they played.

Less of a problem if they had worked hard, or even been slightly organised in their defence.

no they wont.

the players will play infront of silence, like they do most games. I can understand the fans frustration but majority of our fans arent bothered or vocal enough to make any sort of atmosphere.

Im not going but they'd better put in a monumental effort at Oldham to which I am going.Thats too far to go for a gutless display

Well I went to watch 4th placed Swindon Supermarine against Merthyr Tydville (sp?).

A game played in difficult conditions ended in a 0-0 draw, though the home side had 5 very good opportunities to score against the team 1 league place above them.

Also, Swindon Supermarine had a drum and it made for a cracking atmosphere. :)

 We're now in exactly the same position points wise as we we were in 05/06...of course we went down...then the only team below were MKD managed by Danny Wilson.

 I think our team then was better than the current shower of shit...the sale of Falllon fucked us though.

 At least Wilson has experience of bring a side back out of L2...think we'll need it.

In 05/06 when we got relegated it was mostly due to having a team full of loan players.

I put it to you that we now need to use each and every one of our loan allocation to save ourselves.

D.W. not out yet, bollocking probably more interesting than the game.

 How many more games would you give him?

1

 Very generous..

D.W. is under no illusion that we are shit, played better with ten.

Is that what he said on the radio?

That outburst is very out of character. Maybe he is starting to feel the pressure.

Ah but when its quiet all you hear is the moany angry fans shouting abuse.

But yes, most of our home fans cant raise themselves or their voices.

he said we played better than 10 and that Kanyuka got sent off because he fell asleep.

Which players are out of contract at the end of this season?

I am guessing:

Phil Smith
Peter Brezovan
Jack Smith
Jamie Vincent
Craig Easton
Barry Corr
Pat Kanyuka
Lilian Nalis
Mark Marshall
Mike Pook
Blair Sturrock
Lee Peacock

you cannot polish turds.fitton get your cash out!

Ifil?
Amankwaah?
Allen
Macklin
Morrison
Kennedy
+ all the other youths that signed pro contracts this time last year

So 3 quarters of the squad then?

D.W. actually said we weren't good enough, no complaints with the result (i.e., we were shit).  Brez and Amanka singled out for praise.  Believes some of the younger players need to be rested for a game or two.  Believes one or two new faces will lift the club.

If he took almost an hour to appear from the dressing room, he must have had a slightly different version for the press.  Indicated players are playing with fear (the Malpas influence IMO).

yay my email about third hand info was read out, then mocked by a clown

He indicated that everyone has an opinion and that not all opinions are necessarily equal.

In a court of law, second or third hand opinions are hearsay and have little or no weight.

The commentators comments as well as D.W.'s were convincing that we were poor until the sending off and then we played better getting the ball down.  By then the game was lost, so no reason to be fearful.

apart from that he praised Amankwaah. He is one of the worst full backs I have ever seen (Casal is even worse). He cant head the ball, he cant tackle, he cant play offside. He can dribble a bit, but his control is still pretty crap. Just a total reject.

Yeah Timlin was having a few mares, but he was there for a reason, and that reason is that we dont have full backs who are up to it. Even Jack Smith, hes not the first player that needs replacing by a long way, but he isnt a good player either.

I knew we would miss Commingues. What I didnt realise was that it wouldnt be his runs and crosses that we would miss, but his passion and spirit. He must have squared up to other players about 4 times last season, cant remmember seeing that at all this season.

Sad times. Sigh.

i didn't feel he gave my statement any sort of consideration and was quite flippant, i demand better!

 we have a pretty shit squad bar the odd exception.is it good enough to stay up?i'd say so just about.but our defence is diobolical, the midfield aint up to much either, neither are the keepers or the forwards.oh?!?!. we might go down. if so fitton has alot to answer for.him and his croneys are fucking loaded.why buy a football club if not throw a bit of money at it?it wont break their vast fortunes so why not boost the playing staff with some quality?
yeah they saved the club.blaa blaa blaa and have put some of their pocket money in,but relegation one year in would be a fucking major let down.they already face losing loads of season ticket holders(unless they come up with something)
the board should speculate to accumilate.give fans something to get them excited again.wilson and the odd loan-nobody player wont do this

I agree, and despite the amount he divided opinions, Roberts temperament and unpredictability made him the sort of player we could really use in the midfield at the moment. The fact he had pace helped too. There's no real energy about us now, I'd say our most potent player going forward (other than Cox) has been Jack Smith. Quite worrying considering he's supposed to be a defender.

Wilson's only been here 5 minutes and I don't think we should under estimate the damage Malpas caused us. Set pieces have improved, that was definitely one key factor in our shitness. I hope that other things will follow when Wilson gets the team working on them. He does need to make his mind up on his starting eleven though, we're getting back into the Malpas trap. Is Wilson taking too much of Byrne's advice? Is Byrne actually Grima Wormtongue?

You could always email him and point out that his flippancy wasn't appreciated.

Motherwell were suffering from the damage Malpas did to them for while as well. We need a total shake up including probably letting the goalkeeping coach and Ady go. then bring in some fresh blood. It seems as Fitton is reluctant to pay agents fees etc which makes good business sense, it is scuppering any sort of deals and players wont come here.

no good letting the keeper coach and ady go (no matter how piss poor they are) if we wont splash out for replacements.

Of course paying off Malpas would have taken a chunk out the budget, we're probably still paying Roberts something as well.

I'm thinking there's got to be the swallowing of some pride and do sensible business with agents and/or spend a bit of money because their long-term plans are going to be proper messed up if we go down.

Fitton swallowed pride with Malpas, Thing is fair enough he wont deal with agents fees etc bt then they just go somewhere else. I sort have a feeling this has scuppered some deals including the Mulgrew deal in the summer.

am i the only one who thinks what if, in regard to bill power?

 No, Diamand Mike was Grima Wormtongue to SSW's Theoden.

Nope, he managed to create the buzz around the place and on the pitch that Fitton never did.

...Thus far....

so dv. do you think we'd be better off than we are now?
i cannot help thinking we'd have better players, and a more high profile boss.
malpas was an awful mistake on fittons part

So we're hating Danny Wilson now?

i'm not.to early, but without money he's on a hiding to nothing anyway

I honestly think there isn't a man in the land that can fully sort this current squad. So yes chequebook out please.

Fitton needs to open his wallet and quick and bit the bullet to pay agents to get the players in we need.

I think we'd be better off on the pitch, no so sure about off the pitch.

Power was only 'in charge' for a few weeks but managed to get in a high profile coaching team (Wise, Poyet, Beasley) and we signed loads of new players alot of frees but decent players. We must have offered some of them better contracts than other teams did.

Of course if Power did keep going down this route it would be great short term but the minute he got bored and decided he had, had enough he would have left us with loses we couldnt cope with.

He would have funded the team but not made us sustainable, he would have just accepted the yearly losses and paid them making us rely purely on Bill Power.

Fitton seems so far the complete opposite - he has safe guarded our future and you'd hope if he and his consortium buggered off in a few years they would have left us in a good financial state but thus far they havent put much, or rather enough money towards the on pitch things. Could have spent more and got in a better manager, should have backed him and let him bring in his own coaches. Could have offered better contracts in order to tempt players to come here.

Both have their plus points and both have their negative. At this moment its all a bit of an assumption on how things would have/will go.

Ideally you want financial stability but with the potential financial clout we have behind us (I dont expect them all to spend million after million on us) we should be spending more on the playing side of things than we have because its clear to see our on the pitch fortunes are going rapidly backwards.

do you think we'd have been better off arriba?

Bill Power was brilliant.

Without him comming in we would probably never have got rid of the old board.

But he wouldnt have been able to keep it up. The bloke had a bit of cash, but not a lot he wouldnt have been able to keep it up for long. 

As regards the new board, its got to be constructive criticism. I dont think Fitton is really a football man. He likes football, but he doesnt know about it as much as he thinks he does. A Hungerford mate told me he used to do a Hungerford team talk before their home games, he would then leave and the manager would say 'right, forget all of that bollocks'. Malpas was that sort of gaffe. He ticked all the boxes in Fittons mind, but it didnt stop him being crap. They are getting a dose of reality now, which maybe they needed?

Solvent but shite? The realities will hit home when they try and sell season tickets next year.

i dont know dv. i agree with alot of what you say to a point.
i reckon we'd be fucked if fitton went, same as if power did though had he got control.
it would still need someone to take over.i reckon power might well have left a better aquisition than fitton.
at the end of the day it's a football club, and the product is the team.at the moment that is utter shite.
ias it stands, our financial stablilty is boring

To be honest I think we could see a board room split.

From what I gather Fitton will stay true to his principles. He wont pay agents, he wants a business plan, he wants youth he was the one who kept Malpas on. But Watkins is getting a bit pissed off with the lack of progress. Cant be nice sending so many people home unhappy week after week.

This clubs future has and always hinges on the stadium development. I don't think Bill Power would have done anything different to Fitton, but he was good because he was a very fan orientated man.

In my opinion the Board have cut their losses for this season. They'll want Wilson to keep us up and sort the organisation of the team out. Once that's done I think they will back him with more money. That's simply my gut feeling though.

i'd love to say what i think about our youth set up but i will refrain.not a closed shop here anymore

Why do you refrain?

Be interesting to see what sam, axs, herthab and all that have to say when they get back!

already said why si

I don't think the problem is about Fitton not paying agents fees. Last season when the Football League published the agents fees for the Football League teams there were clubs like Blackpool and Huddersfield, who didn't spend a penny on agents fees, yet they seem to bring in good enough players.

We need players now if we want to stay up, and to start a radical overhaul of the team.

People say its difficult to buy in january, but thats more for players moving up the football league pyramid. We rely on players comming the other way and Championship and Prem clubs are quite keen to trim squads in january because it is clear who is really needed.

The january window is also much shorter. We were linked with loads of players in the summer, who simply waited and got their agents to get them a better deal.

Cox was a classic example of what can be done in january.

Its not looking good. There are hardly any rumours, its all gone deadly quiet.

meh i'm over it now, it just irked me

Well, Ifil and Brez basically played Huddersfield on their own in the first half.  Pat Kan can't, simple as that.  All he did was control the ball for them and then let them go on their way.

Our midfield is a disgrace, 1st half I hardly recall Peacock, Timlin and Pook touching the ball at all.  JPM at least managed to get hold of the ball but then proceeded to give it away every single time.

2nd half we didn't improve until Pat was sent off - which I was fuming about by the way, he should be fined a good 2 or 3 weeks wages for that because he gave the ref no way out other than showing the red.  It was a stupid tug and would be a red 100% of the time, even a Utd player at Old Trafford.

Still, since the red we did get a little better and on the showing he gave Sturrock would be the first name on the teamsheet for me next time out, his movement completely changed the way we approached the game and all of a sudden we could find a red shirt.

Not many positives to take from that exept for me Brez looks closer to his best and looked confident out there.  Obviously Cox getting one is good news and hopefully he'll go on another run now.

Squad assessment - Need 1 new CB, prob a LB, absolute must is 2 new CMs and we deffo need another striker.  Survival will be a big ask as it is and the 2nd half of January will ulimately decide our season I think.

What Tom said.

Cacky cacky cack cack.

just got back from the game and i never want to see Pook or Pat Kanuyka in a swindon shirt ever again. Woeful.

Err, so Ifil, Sturrock and Brez did OK then. Looking on the right side only 8 more needed.

Sturrock was only on for 15 mins ish.

Thought Ifil was great in comparison to his defensive colleagues and brez was good first half, couldn't see their goals well from the other end.

Ifil played well on tuesday, fingers crossed Wilson is another manager he will flourish under instead of floundering.

For me the players to keep are Cox, Ifil, Brezovan, J Smith, Easton, Peacock, Timlin, C Allen, Paynter, McNamee, Morrison and B Corr (just because ok).

But there is a massive list of players who have to go. McGovern, Casal, Amankwaah, Aljofree, Vincent, P Smith, Nalis, Kanyuka, Sturrock, Pook, Marshall.

The other youth players need to be trimmed down, but that is for Bodin and Byrne to decide.

Disagree about Vincent. Let's see what he's like following his injury before deciding. Its a big injury but its his first at Town. If we can hand out contracts to piss heads and serial injury prone players then lets give the guy a chance.

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Agree completely we were at the game yesterday, and every other Swindon fan we spoke with said the same.....as someone else here said you can't polish a turd.

Brez - Probably his best game of the season (Which isn't saying much, although he looked good)

Amankwah - Shite, absolutely shocking.
Ifil - My man of the match. First half he was our only defender.

Kanuyka - See Amankwah.

J.Smith - The turning circle of an articulated truck. Slow, can't tackle.

JPM - Saw more of the ball than the rest of the midfield, did fuck all with it.

Pook - Back to his normal self. (By which I mean he ws poor)

Peacock - Needs to bleach his hair again, so we know he's playing. Did fuck all.

Timlin - Another poor game.

Paynter - Did nothing. The sooner we get another target man, the better.

Cox - Scored a good goal, apart from that was his usual whinging, diving, petulant self.

Subs.

Easton - Fitted seamlessly into our midfield, ie was invisible.

McNamee - Frustrating. Runs into trouble all the time and holds onto the ball for too long.

Sturrock - I'd like to see him in midfield. He's an intelligent player. He just can't shoot!

Overall, a piss poor performance which must show DW he needs to overhaul the squad in the summer (Don't think much will change this month).

Relegation fight for the rest of the season.

Ian Holloway would have turned things around.   He'd have come in and improved morale from day one, players/fans the lot.

Good fishing Jan. There's nothing wrong with morale. The problem is quite obvious:

Shit players = Shite team= shit performances=shit results=shite crowds=shit atmosphere.

That is flipping depressing, can a side really be that bad and only lose by one goal?

 Stats show that this side is as bad as 05/06...a side which had the dubious record of longest  run of defeats in the club's history...and the worst single game defeat scoreline for Div 3 since its creation in 58.

 Some of the personnel are the same...Ifil, Pook and Jack Smith. Lee Peacock for the latter part of that season.

 Wilson now has just about a fortnight to do some firefighting...tbf he did imply on the radio yesterday that he realises the bleeding obvious and matters are in hand. I'd expect a couple of loans coming in....

I'm afraid so. We couldn't have complained if we lost bt 4 or 5. The only thing that saved us was Huddersfield's poor finishing and Brez's saves (He made 5).

It was a miracle that at halftime it was 0-0, although we all knew it was only a matter of time.
Appalling is the best word to sum up yesterday.

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Our goal at the end put a flattering scoreline on the result, Hudds should have won by at least 3 goals.

Agreed. A 2-1 scorline flatters us a lot. We were totally outplayed.

Surprised to see the possession stats after what I read on here.


Possesion: HUD: 49 SWIN: 51
Shots On: HUD: 3 SWIN: 1
Shots Off: HUD: 7 SWIN: 1
Corners: HUD: 5 SWIN: 1
Fouls: HUD: 4 SWIN: 7
Bookings: HUD: 0 SWIN: 2 (kanyuka off) Easton

I agree.....i was away with the missus in York (yes i know i should of gone....)..
The fucking auto texts came through.....ruined a good day!!
New faces would lift us all... :nod:

Those possesion stats are just plain wrong, I'd be surprised if we actually managed to achieve 30%, we were chasing (well no we weren't actually, that would have been too much like hard work...) shadows from start to finish.

I don't think he would've come in 'pussy-footing' around. He would've stamped his mark and shown who was boss. DW needs to show some assertive action.

How do we know wilson has come in pussyfooting around?

Thursday's Audience with DW could be interesting!

I can't be bothered to read 22 pages, but this is what i saw of the players yesterday:

Brez - Played well, apart from one little wander he had in the second half. Made some good saves, could do nothing about the goals.

J.Smith - Did nothing defensively and little attacking. Let Roberts cut inside time and again, and if Roberts had a right foot we would have lost by 5.

Ifil - Looked like he was getting back to his best, sweeped up well. Can't complain with his performance because at times he was the only one.

Kanyuka - Looked abysmal, but on the very odd occasion he dealt with the ball well. He seemed to give a few free kicks away going up for the high ball too, whether they were or not I don't know. Out of position for the sending off too.

Amankwaah - Personally i thought he didn't have a bad game, dealt with that fat boy on the right well, and we looked stronger at the back when he moved to Centre Half.

Timlin - meh, nothing game. Gone done for pace a few times. Didn't really notice him.

Peacock - I can't actually remember him being on the ball or making a tackle - but i do remember seeing him running onto the pitch so i'm not really sure whether he played in truth.

Pook - Shit. I'm sorry, for the all the praise he's got previously through the season today he totally undone it with that performance. Shit on the ball, positioning was crap.

McGovern - Tried his best going forward. Tried to help deal with Roberts but neither Smith or Pook/Peacock stopped him from going inside so he was wasted today. When we got the ball down it went through him.

Paynter -  Shit service to him. When we did play it on the ground or when he held it up we looked ok, and it ended up going down our right. People get on his back for being a shit target man, but he's only as shit at the service he got today.

Cox - Came much deeper i thought because of the shit service. Took his goal well, and in truth had another chance from a corner which fell to him. Didn't do anything wrong, but not much else right bar the goal.

Subs:

Collectively they made us look a better side going forward as we moved the ball on the deck. Macca popped up and got into decent positions to get crosses in despite half of them not gettin past his marker which was disappointing to be fair.
You could actually notice we had a centre midfielder on the field when Easton was on, he should have started. Closed them down, gave a couple free kicks away but at least he showed something plus we were "chasing" the game by then.
Sturrock ran the channels well, held the ball up well and got into good positions. Can't complain was our biggest threat. Unlucky with his header as well, had the keeper beat.

More thought out than my rant cib. Can't agree about Amankwah though.

From a mate who was at the game..

Brez - looked good

J.Smith - shit

Ifil - ok at times

Kanyuka - shit

Amankwaah - shit

Timlin - shit

Peacock - shit

Pook - shit

McGovern - shit

Paynter -  shit

Cox - shit but have a saving grace with a goal.

Thought out well? :D

I stayed up in Yarkshire with a couple of old uni mates last night and they said how well our "massive" left back played. I didn't think he had a bad game, just shows how people see the game differently. Maybe he looked better because everyone else was much worse and he wasn't up against Roberts all afternoon.

I think he probably had a better second half, when he was up the other end from town fans.

I don't think Amankwah did anything noticeably bad, but then he didn't do anything noticeably good either.

Sounds like good defending to me

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Just his persona makes me think that. I reckon he could be a wet blouse at times. He doesn't seem the type to shake things up and get angry. Maybe I'm wrong.

Wilson has already banned phones from the training ground and both Bodin and Peacock have said in interviews it is now a more professional set up and that things were to relaxed under Malpas.

How sad, but you know what my big hope is?

Its that last season when the fans started to go mental and say 'look if you dont pull your socks up we will be relegated' they did, and we got a few results. The squad is a worse than last season. Im sure the players think there is more in the tank, but we shall see.

For me. I think half of them are shit. This cannot be allowed to go on another season. If you dont want to give 100% then FUCK OFF FUCK OFF AND FUCK OFF YOU again.

I REPEAT IF WE SURVIVE THEN HALF THE SQUAD HAVE TO GO. You cannot keep on at the bottom half every season in the football league, the drop will get you in the end.

The difference between Swindon & Huddersfield.
Lee Clark was qouted in the press on Saturday as saying at his interview that he would only accept the job if he could bring in his own coaching staff, which he did.
Fitton appoints DW,which (in my opinion) was on the proviso that he worked with the present coaching team, that being the cheap option.
The result being Huddersfield are winnning whilst we are not.

DW has never taken an entourage when he's moved to new clubs previously, so saying he was told he had to work with the existing staff is a bit presumptuous.

God I hate it when people feel the need to point out something is their opinion, as if it somehow adds validity to what they are saying. Especially when it's used as a replacement for backing up why someone thinks something. It's like there's a belief that because it's an opinion, it's automatically equal to everybody elses. Not all opinions are equal, they're only as good as the reasons you've come to them, and the knowledge you have on the subject.

Unless of course it's possible that a post could be misinterpreted as being the views of someone else. I suppose that's a fair enough use. 

That's just my opinion, of course.

Well thats your opinion!

Haha, as if its that simple.

I reckon that's his opinion!  Anyone else?

Dell Boys' favourite hostile poster!  ?? under your avatar how long has that been on there?

I'd agree with that, there were much worse performances on show on Saturday.

Danny wilson the cheap option? You having a laugh

Bear in mind the size of the squad we have already, I'm sure that DW wants to move some out of the squad to make space, we don't know where the wage bill is at, he may not have a lot to work with.

I'm sure that he will get players in on loan though, and if he can move out some of our non performers then he may have space for permanent additions.

Surely Supermarine will take Pook now rather than waiting until the end of the season ?!

But what are they going to use him for - a cheap alternative to beef in the burgers?

In my opinion you're a dick

he could be right though dv,to a point.we dont know what fitton said in regard to coaching staff.i would think he'd want byrne kept on out of loyalty to the bloke.i dont know if cheap option comes into it, but it might?

he could be right, he could be wrong. I doubt we'll ever know and of course this has come up before and I'll ask the question again.

Why would Fitton be so loyal to Dave Byrne and Adie Williams of all people?!

Why would he insist those two stay around. Byrne might be amazingly good at his job but then if he was, Wilson would see this anyway and keep him on.

Unless of course the decision is purely a financial one. In which cases it makes sense if we dont want to pay off Byrne & Williams plus paying new guys on top of that.

I know for fact that DW called DB the day he got the job and told him he wanted him as his number 2.

I know for a fact today is Tuesday

I don't. That is why I use http://whatdayisit.co.uk/

I know the cliche is that we all see a different game but here's my 2 pence worth.

Initially I thought Amankwah had a rubbish game but on reflection Danny (cunt) Cadamertaree (or whatever he is called) didn't do anything all game so he can't have been that bad.

I still can't work out whether Jerel was fucking ace or just looked good next to 50p Pat, Coxy took his goal well but had fuck all service, Sturrock was, once again, fantastic - but he can't score for toffee.

We were fucking toss and the final scoreline flattered us greatly. I would have been pleased with 4 - 0.

Wilson is probably waiting to see what happens with Williams before deciding who he can bring in.

Didn't Wilson say something along the lines of realising a big job needed doing so he was sorting out the backroom further down the line, giving them all a chance to prove their worth and at the same time meaning he could concentrate on the playing side for now.

But he probably had to say that, otherwise fitton wouldn't have given him the job, and maybe even poisoned his tea.

A few weeks, you even commented on it before! ???

Surely you remember the "your posts come across very hostile" comment!

Was I the person Reg was referring too when he said you had a stalker then?  Bless!  He could have PM'd me too!

Does it upset you Dell? If so I will remove it.  :D

Just seen the highlights-One moment of magic from McNamee and we could have had an undeserved share of the spoils.

He was referring to the top searches thread.

Do you mean the cross for Sturrocks header off the post?

I thought the highlights made us look like we made a better go of it than it sounded on the day tbh.

According to those, if we keep on playing the highlights as we did on Saturday we will have no problems. ;D

It's only in the last couple of weeks I can actually remember what I've said, my life before that is a complete blur.
No it does not bother me TOSSER.

yes

I was surprised too.

the goals conceeded on saturday looked an embarrasment.from the footage it looks to me that not all players were giving their all-ie not pressing down the player on the ball leading to crosses and shots.that is unexcusable and is worrying as it looks like wilson cannot lift the players and motivate them enough.maybe the players just aint good enough?or their confidence is shot to peices? i have no idea but we need to get better for sure.

To be fair Arriba, Hudds were all over us and could have scored any time.

Good. In that case it stays then.  BTW you still owe me a tenner from before Christmas, remember?

 :smugfu:

Pay Pay, fucking pay ... do you mind euros?
What was the bet by the way?

Ive just watched the highlights,yes its took me a while.

dont know if anyone has brought kanyukas red card in the view i have,which is he wasnt denying a goal scoring opportunity 'cause kevin amankwaah was the last man (at the instant of the foul)and was coming across to cover PK. from where i see it KA would have either made a tackle, or put enough pressure on their striker to deny a goal anyway.

if it was on MOTD im sure they would have had a nice little moan and put arrows on the screen.

the ref had a shocker anyway,so it doesnt surprise me he got this wrong aswell.

One of the advantages to having 13,000 home fans. No matter what refs say it does sway their decisions.