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Title: assisted suicide
Post by: oxford_fan on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:07:33
this guys family have been let off:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/7773540.stm

most probably a stupid question but....

can't suicide be achieved alone, without the need for assistance and legal trouble?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:13:48
Wasnt the assistance them taking him out there to a clinic?


They didnt actually inject/give him pills.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: spacey on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:14:24


can't suicide be achieved alone, without the need for assistance and legal trouble?

Depends on the condition I suppose. If you've got something that limits your movement then you might require someone to sort things for you.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:21:14
What a terrible situation to be in, a loved one wanting you to help them pass away.  I'm glad they haven't had to face charges as i think they've suffered enough.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 22:31:13
Personally I've no problem with it. If my quality of life was so low and it affected all those around me, I'd be mightilly pissed off if my loved ones didn't help me.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: ron dodgers on Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 23:27:06
it's not a bad thing


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 06:15:35
There's quite a few peope I'd happily assist.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 09:47:11
There's quite a few peope I'd happily assist.

Thanks mate


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 09:56:13
If theres really no help or alterntives to make someone better and the poeple are sound enough of mind to make that decison then I dont have a problem with it


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Gazza's Fat Mate on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:51:33
I already have a DNR order in my will and have left detailed instructions in my will regarding under what circumstances my family are to refuse medical treatment and let me die.

The thing I don't get is that vets are allowed to put a animal down if it is fucked but if you are a human you have to endure pain and suffering untill you die.

The law should be changed to allow assisted sucide. Watching a loved one live for years in pain is not nice for anyone and I speak for personal experince as my mum had to suffer for years with MS untill thankfully she died but if took 10 years of living a live of pain before her body (not her mind) finally let her go.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 13:54:18
I already have a DNR order in my will and have left detailed instructions in my will regarding under what circumstances my family are to refuse medical treatment and let me die.


If you left details in your will, surely they wouldn't come to light until you were dead ?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Gazza's Fat Mate on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 16:46:22
If you left details in your will, surely they wouldn't come to light until you were dead ?

It's called a living will. Which is kind of iroinc as it deals with how you die.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 16:52:17
It's called a living will. Which is kind of iroinc as it deals with how you die.

Is that a legal document then ?  (genuine question)


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Gazza's Fat Mate on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 17:00:57
It is not legaly binding but docotrs must take it in to account and in the real world I understand that they follow it to avoid any legal action against them.

All it is is a statmenet that sets out what treament I want and in what circumstances I want treatment and in what circumstances I do not want treatment. For exmaple if I am paralayesed from the neck down and can't walk I do not want any treatment that will prolong my life ie don't put me on a ventorlator.

Due to the fact that I know alot of solcoitors mine is very detailed and has lots of legal stuff in it but it doesn't have to be. You can just write out your wishes and as long as you send a copy to your docotor it will go on your medical records and be taken in to account should you become illl.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 20:50:05
I think I'll cross those bridges if I ever come to them.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:13:24
Sky 243 now if your feeling morbid.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:13:51
i'm thinking of doing this now


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:15:09
i'm thinking of doing this now

killing yourself?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:15:46
yeah it's all jcp's fault


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:18:07
yeah it's all jcp's fault

and swindon-chap's

lets not forget his accomplice arriba

EDIT : Do you need a hand ?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:19:22
yeah and him.but jcp's worse i backed dowie due to him.i trusted jcp


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: JPC82 on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:21:31
yeah and him.but jcp's worse i backed dowie due to him.i trusted jcp

never trust a cunt who lies


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:22:58
Genuine question would insurance pay out on this? Zurich would after a year i think


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:24:45
what would you like me to put on your headstone buddy ?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:25:23
not on any hint of suicide mate

trust me


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:27:41
Dean woz ere


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:28:14
"we were dowies red and white army" ?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:32:01
Most life assurance only excludes suicide for the first 12 months. After that then it's easy money.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:33:25
thanks for the offer fred, but i wouldn't want to be a burden.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:40:56
no burden at all


I insist




Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:53:58
thanks.if anyone was to get locked up for helping me i'd want it to be you


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:54:53
 :D


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 21:56:40
I'd be happy to find you directions from the nearest airport to the Dignitas clinic.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 22:04:47
That was quite a sad program sorry if i ruin it but the twist at the end when he dies was mental.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 22:07:36
That was quite a sad program sorry if i ruin it but the twist at the end when he dies was mental.

Twist ?


wern't you expecting that then lardy ?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 22:11:55
Haha of course i was you eppy flid.


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 22:12:27
*woosh*


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 22:17:44
Well excuse me you are not usually know for jokes ;-)


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 22:20:57
I have my moments  :D

Likewise with yourself and the English vocabulary


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 22:27:44
Meh too fast a typer


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Sussex on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 08:32:43
I fell asleep, what was the twist at the end?


Title: Re: assisted suicide
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, December 11, 2008, 08:34:50
He lived.