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Not lovers of xmas so ive noticed on the forum...Oliver Cromwell would have liked you both!..(only kidding lads)
This fella was a real bundle of laughs,after executing the reigning monarch he proceeded to make the common mans life a misery,Christmas was banned,and xmas in those days WAS the highligh of the year and many people only had a day or two off at xmas time so no xmas wasnt very popular obviously,i believe eating Mince Pies was punishable by death(abit like the sainsburys ones you can buy today)
There was great rejoicing when he died,Xmas returned
Incidently Mince Pies in those days wernt sweet,it was meat mince and over the years dried fruit was added to keep the mince fresh,finally it was all fruit.
Three years after Cromwells death his body was dug up and hung and beheaded and his head put on a spike at Traitors Gate in London ware it remained for 25 years before someone stole it....it did the rounds for hundreds of years before finaly being buried at Cambridge in a secret location.
So Sippo and Reg when ime driving to Derby tomorow i will think of you while tucking into an M/Sparks festive Mincy....i know its abit Cavalier of me but anythings better than being a roundhead...Happy Xmas to you both.

  I'd have been a Roundhead alright...more likely a Leveller.

  I do like the ancient pagan bits associated with the traditional Christmas, just hate the interminable days where the retail trade tries to fleece you. Winter solstice will be something which interests me.

Have you been on the mulled wine?

Was only messing Reg,may have a wine later...will have to mull over it abit.

 You can fuckin tire of the puns on here.

Sour grapes Reg?

 Oh mist rolling in from the sea....

the reason christmas is so crap now, is that its so bloody comercialised. When did xmas start in the shops? Late sept? It has no meaning nowadays.

Talking about mulled wine, I will be bring a flask of the lovely stuff, traditional with me at the next home game along with mincepies, those around me in the DR will as always enjoy the mixture.

Too subtle for the proletariat Reg

What is the meaning of Christmas? If you expect people to give an arse about some fairytale of Jesus, then Christmas would be a washout. I tell my kids that we celebrate Christmas because over 2000 years ago Father Christmas was born under a Christmas tree in Bethlehem. He delivers presents to all the good children....infact he delivers to all the bad children aswell, Santa don't give a fuck. He also appreciates it if you leave out a can of Cider and some T Bone steak Roysters, to keep up his energy levels for the long trip.

The Church of Spacey doth speak. Testify.

  :)

Presumably PMcC Mills it over.

What I mean is that its not celebrated in how it should be. I'm the least religious person you'd ever meet, but its just got so commercialised now.

How should it be celebrated? I like the fact that I can drink during the day without it feeling like I've got a drink problem. Advertisers will exploit anything in the pursuit of money, Christmas never stood a chance. It's only a matter of time before you get adverts like...

" Hi, I'm Osama Bin Laden. Up here in the mountains of Afghanistan, it can get quite boring. That's why I use Lovefilm.com. It's so easy, I just choose the film I want to see, they send it, I watch it, then I send it back and they send me another one. Whatever it is you like, action, horror, drama or like me a romantic comedy, then it's all here for you at Lovefilm.com."

Christmas is a few days off work, nice food and a few drinks. I like it.