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Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:09:34 ...published in the free paper that does the rounds in the area.
To precis it says that she Sinead Darker (Lab) has in no way been involved in any consultation on the matter, and is totally opposed to any development on the basis that it will remove oxygen from the air of central Swindon. She then goes on to say that all her efforts to see any plans have been unsuccessful and she recommends people e-mailing the club or writing with their views. She wants people to let her know what they think of the CG redevelopment by phoning 337591 or e-mail [email protected]. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:12:16 Give her a piece of your mind Reg!
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Titch on Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:23:00 "Will remove oxygen from the air of central swindon" :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: STFCBird on Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:23:25 I am going to e mail her telling her I am gonna kick her in the cunt
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Titch on Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:24:13 You go birdy! :soapy tit wank:
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:25:23 I think its incumbent on all forum members to point out to her that, the no redevelopment option is most likely to lead to the loss of professional football in Swindon.....and the likelihood of an even more dense development on the CG site.
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, May 16, 2005, 10:35:49 Or maybe just tell her that she's a sad bitch with no friends!
I'll e-mail her later and tell her I'm a voodoo expert with a doll with her name on it. :twisted: Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Piemonte on Monday, May 16, 2005, 11:21:37 Quote from: "Titch" "Will remove oxygen from the air of central swindon" :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick :roll: :roll: taht would be funny if it was another club in another town Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Piemonte on Monday, May 16, 2005, 11:22:24 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" I think its incumbent on all forum members to point out to her that, the no redevelopment option is most likely to lead to the loss of professional football in Swindon.....and the likelihood of an even more dense development on the CG site. very good point, well made Reg. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Batch on Monday, May 16, 2005, 13:08:45 Quote http://www.swindon.labour.co.uk/ViewPage.cfm?Page=9389 County Ground Developments At a recent meeting of a group considering the latest Swindon Local Plan some changes were proposed, to clarify the development position of the County Ground Extension. It is no secret that the Football Club want to improve the facilities at the County Ground. Indeed, the Council supports their aim to improve the facilities at an appropriate site. However, to my mind that does not include the Extension. Residents in the area have little enough open space available to them, without suggestions that the Extension can be developed. The arguments in favour of development rely on the fact that Sport England will insist that the facilities be replaced somewhere, but where in Central could that be? I’m open to suggestions, but honestly cannot think of a suitable alternative. So, along with my Ward Colleague, I say “hands off our extension”. And I’ll continue to say it until the provision of open space for the area is secured. Take a look at the bit abouth the CG, though it pretty much says what the OP said. Hope the OP doesn't mind, but I am going to tout this a bit on other sites in the hope we can start lobbying now. I will also email them but feel that my view will be diluted by not being a Swindon resident. Title: Re: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, May 16, 2005, 13:32:34 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" totally opposed to any development on the basis that it will remove oxygen from the air of central Swindon. What the fuck? Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: dogs on Monday, May 16, 2005, 14:34:37 Quote The arguments in favour of development rely on the fact that Sport England will insist that the facilities be replaced somewhere, but where in Central could that be? I’m open to suggestions, but honestly cannot think of a suitable alternative I still don't know why the council can't do something with the old BR ground. I know Slattery owns it, but the council aren't letting him build on it and it's just a been redundant space for 6 years. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Piemonte on Monday, May 16, 2005, 14:36:06 Quote from: "dogs" Quote The arguments in favour of development rely on the fact that Sport England will insist that the facilities be replaced somewhere, but where in Central could that be? I’m open to suggestions, but honestly cannot think of a suitable alternative I still don't know why the council can't do something with the old BR ground. I know Slattery owns it, but the council aren't letting him build on it and it's just a been redundant space for 6 years. They cant do that! I park there for free! :D :-- Title: Re: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, May 16, 2005, 14:39:54 Quote from: "sonicyouth" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" totally opposed to any development on the basis that it will remove oxygen from the air of central Swindon. What the fuck? What a tard! Bet she really meant to say "open space" but is obviously so angered by the redevelopment plans she wuddled her mords Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: reeves4england on Monday, May 16, 2005, 19:36:13 That's bad news. She says she's seen no plans but haven't they had open discussions about it?!
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 16, 2005, 19:55:24 Quote from: "reeves4england" That's bad news. She says she's seen no plans but haven't they had open discussions about it?! Its sometimes difficult to work out what is going on here......save to say that STFC and SBC are probably two of the most inefficiently run organisations in town......so it would hardly be a surpris eif this turns into a third fiasco, Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:14:26 As the Councillor leading on this, she has never once asked me to be involved.
The only ward Councillor for that area who has been pro-active is Cllr Michael Dickinson. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:18:55 what annoys me is there is always oppostion to us. the council goes on and on about the need for a new staduim but does nothing to help this happen! then we get at least one person effectivly telling us to fuck off! maybe the council will realise what they have done when the club moves to different town!
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:23:05 To be fair, over recent years there has been a huge chance in the Councillors (people retire, move away, or have been thrown out of office), and there is much goodwill towards the club.
There was cross-party support for example for the Council to help explore the County Ground redevelopment, which is currently happening. It is fair to say there are also some Councillors who are not supportive of the club, but alas that is the case across the whole of the town. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:32:53 im really not optimistic about developments. ive heard nothing from the club or council on the plans. what will the new stad look like? how long will it take to build? what will be next to the staduim? all ive heard from the club is 3-4 weeks until we submit the deatils to the council (they said that 3 months ago) so where are the plans?
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:40:13 Basically in a nut shell, the delay is down to the club and the developer looking at the best way to 'share' the deal.
It responsible for the club to take their time, and this is an excellent opportunity for them. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:42:28 i do agree with taking time because thats exactly what the club didnt do last time. but it would just be nice to know what they are planning.
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:49:31 In what respects, ie new stands etc?
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:50:41 yup what they will actually look like e.g. a model or something
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 09:54:28 Well Bob Holt set out pretty much the broad idea in the local media not so long ago.
In a nutshell, rebuild Arkells and Town End. Tweak Nationwide (pretty decent stand already), and upgrade Stratton End, with a low level roof. Potential to fill the corners. Facilities put into the stands, ie in the new Arkells stands sporting shops etc. Also exploring the potential for hotel and conference facilities, probably within the new Town End. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 10:18:30 that sounds about right. what about the cricket and athletics club are they still moving elsewhere?
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 10:19:56 Until actual plans are submitted we don't know for sure, but it certainly an option the club might consider to give them more space on the current site.
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: le god cuervo on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 10:58:16 lets build!!
http://thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1696&highlight= Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:02:10 In relation to the Stratton End... They can have a roof, but it will could only remain a small stand otherwise there will be potential planning issues in relation to the houses behind the stand.
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Marie on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:04:31 Knock them down i say :wink: save alot of hassle!
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:05:24 but the other stands will be joined at the corners a bit like the riverside staduim am i right JT?
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:09:48 It was an option they were looking at. Guess it depends on costs?
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:13:31 Quote In relation to the Stratton End... They can have a roof, but it will could only remain a small stand otherwise there will be potential planning issues in relation to the houses behind the stand. was it Portsmouth (i forget exactly) who redeveloped there ground but actually turned there pitch around 180deg. i.e rotate ours and build onto the cricket pitch. but then thinking of this it would mean a higher stand being built near to where the stratton is now so the residents wont like that straight away. And also the North stand going. so all in all a really crap idea by me. :x oh bollox it's nearlly the weekend Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:15:32 Quote from: "Rich" that sounds about right. what about the cricket and athletics club are they still moving elsewhere? At a guess, I'd say yes. I assume this is all being funded by a developer (St Modwen). I doubt the developer will do it for the love of STFC, so they need to do 'something else' besides redeveloping the CG to make some money. So I guess some of the usage of this space will be non STFC related (directly)? Would this be a correct view or total bollards? Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:16:00 it was bournemouth who rotated their pitch magic. i thought about that being done at the CG but i dont think it would make a difference really
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: JTomlinson on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:21:35 Quote from: "Batch" I assume this is all being funded by a developer (St Modwen). I doubt the developer will do it for the love of STFC, so they need to do 'something else' besides redeveloping the CG to make some money. So I guess some of the usage of this space will be non STFC related (directly)? Would this be a correct view or total bollards? This is something the club is still working out, hence the delay. It will probably be a combination of a developer and the club, so you are probably right. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:22:03 Quote it was bournemouth who rotated their pitch magic. i thought about that being done at the CG but i dont think it would make a difference really i knew it was a south coast club. the real stumbling block here is the residents on Shrivenham Rd (sp) they don't want a stand too high cos of sun light not getting through. A relocation onto the Athletics track would be better. Then where the CC is at the moment could be turned into a comunity sports centre which could also incorporate indoor training facilities for STFC, public swimming pool, tennis courts etc. Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 13:18:50 :D If you rotated 180 degrees the Stratton Bank would be where the Town End is now and vice versa
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 13:33:11 I think we should rotate 340 degrees anti clockwise around the magic roundabout.
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: dogs on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 14:20:34 Wish the council could just take out a compulsory purchase order on those bloody houses, and get rid of them! Obviously no chance of that happening. Theres hardly any light down there anyway with massive trees obstructing, and at least they'd be protected from the sun if stratton bank could be redeveloped :wink: .
Title: Central Ward Councillor's view of CG redevelopment...... Post by: STFCDude on Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 20:45:25 they should rotate 90 degrees to be honest, as it would stop the sunlight glaring directly into the keeper standing at the Stratton Bank end
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