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Why have some people got no respect whatsoever?!! Kids shouting and screaming at 11am. No thought or care for the elder generation.

I watched and am still watching the service on the bbc news chanel, and it is quite touching. Might sound gay, but the three gents over the age of 100 are just amazing.

Brilliant...and very moving.

You gotta love the Patch, Harry Patch. 

Well observed here, as you would expect, althought there were some people who just carried on as normal.  Makes me angry too, 2 mins isn't much to show your respect.

People in our office just talking away, even though it was announced on the tannoy that we'd have a 2 minutes silence..preety disgraceful really. Maybe i was just brought up wrong.

The whole of the stadium stopped here

It was fucking eerie

Makes you think. That last fella really didn't want to let go of his wreath of poppies.

soon there will be no old men fromt he 1st world war left  :(

It is awful that a lot of people wont respect the silence, they died for us after all.

I probably sound like an old fart but it was always respected when I was a kid back in the 70's, and well into the 80's people used to stop in the street, we would have the fly past by the 3 Herc's from Lyneham.

Hopefully next year I am off to Ypres to see my Great Uncles grave at Menin Gate.

I wont ever not observe it and my kids as long as I live.

LEST WE FORGET.

I was talking to a Irishman the other day (a staunch republican) and he was giving me a bit of hassle for wearing a poppy (especially as I am more pro republican than unionist as it were - but that's another story), anyway I disagreed with his take on it, as to me wearing a poppy is about the millions upon millions of lads who were slaughtered in WWI, and for the fallen in WWII.  I know the poppy represents others who have fallen in other conflicts but to me it's mostly about WWI and WWII. 

Having said that no matter what war the fallen may have died in, every single one of them was some mother's son/daughter.  I don't agree with Iraq for example, but when you seen the lads who have died, or have lost a limb, it makes it an individual thing, not a political one.

You can support the dead without supporting the wars so nobody should have a problem with poppies.
As for ignorant bastards talknig through the 2 minute silence - it would be good to send them to the front line - they might have more respect then - bloody peasants.

Part of the problem is that the kids aren't taught anything about it now at school. Last night on Points West (or HTV) there were two kids who didn't know anything what so ever about it, tonight they are taking them to France to see for them selves.
Even worse in my opinion is that I hear that the Holocaust is being dropped from the ciriculum because it may "offend muslim sensibilities" s they deby it ever happened. If true that is an absolute disgrace.

Good post Jan. Remembrance Day is to remember the young men and women who died fighting for their Country. It's not about the rights and wrongs of the conflicts, or the suits who start them.............

They go on school trips to the battlefields still.....and it is still taught in lessons.

Totally agree, with that. (Although I did support the Iraq invasion). (I was probably wrong on that one) but, History tells us that the politicians are often wrong but the troops are the ones who pay the real price. I think the phrase lions lead by donkeys was coined about WW1, but the lesson still hasn't been learnt

The two on points west were probably playing truant then.

Weren't they from Brizzle anyhow?

Prob excluded.

Yeah, fortunately it's not though. I think that was one the Mail made up, or may have been the Beeb, but like most of these "Oooh, it's PC gone maaddd" stories it is utter bullshit.

And anyone who talks through the 2 mins silence should be stabbed in the eye with a poppy pin.

Google didn't even show their respect. They can change for other 'holidays and events though!'

http://www.google.com/holidaylogos.html

We were having a meeting about next year's holiday. The fire alarm went off to signal the start of the two minutes silence, I'm sat there in silence but the stupid old wenches in our team kept on bickering about "I want this week" and "I want that week". They kept on going until someone finally shouted "It's 11 o'clock!" when they finally twigged and sat down and shut up.

i guess it depends on how you were bought up. i've always observed a minute's silence without fail on remebrance sunday and the 11th itself, my great grandfather died on armistice day in 1918 after the war was effectively over. as a result he never saw his son and his son never saw his father.

i recall working in tesco on rembrance day once and being utterly bemused yet remarkably angry at people who carried on doing their shopping, clearly aware of what was going on as they were almsot trying to sneak around.

teenagers use the war memorial in my village as a hangout. i do wonder how aware they are of what it means.

You should remind him of the tens of thousands of Republican Irishman who volunteered to fight and die for the British Army despite Ireland being technically neutral in WWII

To be fair to the young people of today,if they are not taught about the past,they aint going to understand....did anyone see the Dan Snow documentary ware his great grandad was a general in ww1 and basicly he was a disaster and his actions led to thousands of deaths....he was really shocked and looked really sad.

I'm not going to preach to him regarding Ireland, he's entitled to his opinion, anyway, I wouldn't think he would be that bothered about the Irishmen who fought for the British Empire.  Whether they survived or not, which is his choice.  I'm not bothered about his opinion, just glad I think differently.

Apparently at all the Football grounds in England and Scotland there was a minutes silence bar 1, which did a minutes applause (They have to be fucking different), presumably so their idiot fans couldn't ruin the silence.

3 guesses which club?

you cannot blame kids for not being silent,most wont understand.
my work mate had to take his son to brize norton yesterday to be flown out to afghanistan.
at least the world wars were worth fighting.the shit going on now is crazy,and hardly gets reported.

Celtic.

correct.

Bolton fans at Hull chanted during the minutes silence, apparently

See thats where I don't agree. Most kids do know what its about they just don't respect the situation. They still get taught it in school - in my school here its been in assembly, its been all over the news etc. Kids nowadays have to be taught respect. You get some kids who do care, but the majority don't care about the past.

I sat Jenna down when she was about 8 and made her watch Schindlers List

We sat through a 2 1/2 hr film in complete silence

Not sure why Celtic didnt?

My Family are huge celtic fans, originally from Ireland moving to Glasgow around the time of the famine. Both my great grandfathers died in 1ww and I lost my grandad a pilot in 2WW my other grandad had part of his leg blown off on the normandy beaches.

They are celtic through and through. dont tell me they and my family wouldnt have approved of a minutes silence.

But did they realise it was the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. Unless a minutes silence was organised by the school I would imagine most would have forgotten and carried about their play.

I have to confess, I was in the middle of work and missed the hour passing. That isn't intended as a lack of respect.
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In all honesty the gravity of war didn't really hit home when I was that age (under say 11). Yes I knew a lot of people died, including some from my family. It's only in later (approaching adult) life you really appreciate mortality. Well it was for me anyway.

I think that Sippo's students are a lot older iirc

I am sure that he has mentioned perving over 6th formers many a time

Oh, right. In that case it is a bit different I suppose.

Would i??!

yes we are a secondary. Obvoiusly below that age is understandable as they wouldn't have a clue.

Its mainly the older kids that show lack of respect anyway.

The vast majority of Celtic fans would support a minutes silence, however it only takes a handful of disrespectful supporters to ruin the event, in which case Celtic were right to have a minute's applause.

Here's an article about the minutes applause and comments from Celtic and other football fans.


http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2008/11/celtics-complex.html

as the kids are older you refer to i agree with you.at that age they dont really care at all.
i remember watching the bradford fire disaster at school and the boys in our class were laughing like fuck.it was wrong, but kids think differently.as soon as they hit puberty they think they know everything,they argue,and dont give a shit about anything.
the majority will grow into decent adults though.

Of course they are! What a ridiculous statement.

I work in a Primary School and all the kids were learning about it last week. Today we all observed the silence and even the badly behaved kids were quiet throughout.

I have kids in primary and they DO learn about the World Wars - our lot had to go dressed as school kids from that time and learned all about the war....

My niece also came home with a book from school called "The boy in the striped pyjama's" - she is 10

I defy anyone to read it (bloody excellent book) and not be moved to tears - its quite a remarkable story....

Perv
 ;)

I am worried about the number of nutters in this thread that work in schools

Men begged and lied used forged documents etc to get into the army to fight for their country, My Nan told me my great- grandad did that for WW1. I am the same. If my country needed me I'd be there in a flash. Most kids this day wouldn't give a toss. Men would stand arm in arm fighting to be free and fighting for their families so there kids could have a future. Just imagine how different the world would be today if Hitler won for example.

It would be ace

I could grow an ace tache for that tacheback thingy without people getting out of their prams about it


Oh.............and dye my hair blonde without being called a raging queen

























(only joking of course all you sensitive souls, before Janagge comes round and stabs me)

During WWI although Ireland was ruled by Westminster, the governement had the common sense not to enforce conscription in Ireland.  A large number of Irishmen volunteered to their credit.  I was interested to read about the Irish contribution in WW2, as I was unaware, sadly I am aware of their less impressive record during WW2 and after with regard to both Jews and Nazis (check out the programme Ireland's Nazis for info).

I had two two-minutes silences today...one with my class at 11am...and then at 11-05 when the next lesson started and my year 7s (11/12 year olds) told me they hadn't had one at 11.  They then started asking questions about it and the war in general...my lesson on William the Conqueror building his castles will have to wait, as I abandoned it there and then.  Good class, I was impressed with them.

Oh, and we do teach the Holocaust, and Churchill (whatever the papers may have you believe).  In fact, even if it was removed from the curriculum, I'd still teach it.

I have been on school trips to Auschwitz and Paschendale, both were very moving and the students very well behaved.  In fact, the English speaking guide told me that every year all the guides have a meeting and one of the things they discuss is which students were best behaved.  The British students are voted the best year on year on year, they behave the most appropriately, ask the most informed and interesting questions, and generally conduct themselves in the best way.  Try finding that in the Daily Mail next time they write about the youth of today.

Whilst I was tracing my family roots back thruogh Co Kerry I was quite suprrised to find that for every 1 of my relatives who volunteered to fight the Germans was an equal number who were helping to restock U Boats. Whether this was for politics or pure finance I'm not sure.