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Apparently are trying to get the playing of both National Anthems banned prior to their game with Northern Ireland next month as they don't want to 'have to boo' GSTQ.

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Scots dont like singing it....which suprises me when you think that thousands of there dads and grandads died fighting for the rite for them to live in there native country,God Save Our Queen is the UK anthem and if the Scots dont like it,well you cant have your cake and eat it....a scotsmans running the country for fuks sake!!!...well trying anyway.

Don't they sing Flower of Scotland?

...also I'm going to that game, my mate is a Norn Iron nut.

To clarify, Scotland's anthem is Flower of Scotland and Norn Iron's is GSTQ. I know a few Norn Iron fans planning on going through to the game.

anthem will get pelters. Quite alot of discussion about it amongst Scotland fans at the moment. More importantly though is both sets of fans trying to get together to voice their opposition to Seb Coes stupid idea for a british olympic football team in 2012.

I think they should have a British football team but only bother with English players. Only British in name. If the other home nations don't want to be involved then it shouldn't ruin the fun for the rest of us.

If its not got any other players then its not a british team is it? Why dont hey just split up the BOC finally and each nation can have their own olympic team.

cos we crave those curling medals

I'd boo God Save the Queen, but only because it's a dreadful song.  How that song could motivate anyone is beyond me.  Singing about some stupid ol' rich german bird. 

The Italians and French have got it right as far as their anthems go, brilliant stuff.

Having said that FOS send shivers down my spine when Hampden and Murrayfield get it spot on!!

i never stand for god save the queen and yes i would quite happily line them up against the wall, except phillip he had the right idea in topping off that useless hooray diana. yep id keep him and use him as an assasin for future plots.

Yes it is. It is a team including the best Britains who are willing to take part. If the Olympic team selection committee people decided to only choose English players, THAT would stop it being a British team.
You can't have a load of Jocks saying "we don't want to play" and then complaining about the team being all English

Are you willing to lose and england team permanently to form a "team GB"?

if it means we win something i couldnt care less

The idea of a GB team makes me sick.  I refuse to have any of england's over paid nancy boys represent me.  If a GB team takes over I'd have to look to my great grandfather's Irish heritage for inspiration.

FIFA want a reduction in numbers in Europe and this is playing straight into their hands.

The Scots should join in with the Anthem. The Queen is their leader and ruler, they should be greatful and respectful of the fact. As they said in Gladiator, "people should know when they are conquered".

Says you who are politically being led by a Scot.

As for who should and shouldn't join in singing a flipping song, I'll leave that to the individuals concerned.

And as for the Queen is my "leader" I have no Queen.

The Government serve the Queen, the unelected scot in charge is a temporary thing. We'll kick him out ASAP as he's clearly messing things up.

You are one of the Queens subjects. Clearly she is your leader.

Scotland's contribution to the world seems to be deep fried mars bars and iron brew.

Do you know something ?

I really miss that fishing smilie

Was it this one? :fishing:

The re-adding of smilies is a slow job.

*Irn Bru :D


Jesus Jan, you really bit at that one didnt you?!?!

:)

I like Irn Bru... good hangover cure.

  WE don't seem to have any drinking smilies...which is a poor show.

  JA, I presume you still hanker after Mary, Queen of Scots, who was quite rightly executed for her treachery....when we manage to slough off the economic drain that is Scotland. We'll have to keep an eye on this sort of behaviour again.

Is there an oil rig smiley for Janaage ?

  :soapy tit wank:

That'd be ace if there was Nev!!

GSTQ is a shite national anthem though.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALY!

will have to make do with this :D
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Such a shame that Great Britain eventually will perish in such a petty manor

When England won the world cup and up to Italia '90 - it would always be Union Jacks as opposed to the flag of St. George. Oh well.

I have absolutely no opinion about Team GB - I'm not a fan of the olympics.

I'm with Rich.

Winning the olympic gold at the beautiful game will never compare with the Jules Rimet or European Championship anyway.  Footy in the olympics always seems to be a bit of a side event.

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all your oil are belong to us?

it's not theirs anyway.

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ace :D

Only because england fans, like yanks now, couldnt tell the defference between GB and england

Sio you dont care if a team GB in the olympics leads to there being no england team in the future?

Wouldn't be the end of the world.

I thought Fifa had said they didn't give a shit anyway.

Sepp Blatter has given his assurances. And we all know what his word is worth!

The fact of the matter is Lots of countries in the world, particularly africa, asia and the carribean are unhappy about the amount of power the home nations have in FIFA (4 permanent places on the executive committee) and also how one country (in their eyes) can have four teams. There have been several moves from these countries in the past to force an amalgamation and I believe "Mr Integrity" Jack Warner, is one of the most outspoken about it.

Unsurprisingly I agree with STA.  Any chink in the defence of the 4 "home" nations will be the end for us individually.  It's not our fault the rest of the world deem us to be UK, GB.  Scotland is a separate country to England fact. Wales (a principality) and NI (province) may have their defence weakened by the fact they aren't countries I suppose.

Stick together, I mean err, stay apart.

Do you think that if the Scots put a bit more effort into enhancing their own traditions and cultures rather than moaning about the English, then the rest of the world might see them as more than those funny people from England who wear skirts, play bagpipes and eat haggis?

It's like you lot are just a little bit too obsessed with us.

Ben that's a rubbish attempt at a wind up.  This thread has been anything but english obsessed.

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:D

It's true though.

Yep, even "World Cup Wille" *  was 'red white 'n blue.

* This was the tournament mascot, not a condition caused by enthusiastic celebration of England's win

Hopefully everyone in Glasgow East will have put another nail in the coffin of Labour in Scotland today. Then maybe we can finally get rid of you lot and not have to worry about it :D

A Team GB football team would have nothing to do with other International competitions. FIFA have already said crack on because we dont give a shit and still see you as four countries and the olympics are nothing to do with us so i don't see where the harm is.

I also heard a suggestion that four seperate under 23 teams should be made to compete for the right to compete under the name Team GB which is again total bull shit as is the suggestion there should be a quota of scottish, welsh and northern irish players in the team.

Let it happen and let the players be picked on merit. If the individual who gets picked doesn't like the idea then move on. If the team was to be picked today then i am sure Steven Davis, Gareth Bale and Alan Hutton would all be in contention as 23 year olds and under from Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland so who knows who could be in the team in 2012.

I don't care about Olympics in general - which is what I meant, although my liking of the England national team (which I do support) isn't as strong as it once was - you're right, I wouldn't want some track & field competition taking away my national team.

Stevo, I don't agree with taking the risk.  As for FIFA saying crack on, I wouldn't trust that lot as far as I could throw them.  Wouldn't put it passed them to say that then a few years down the line use the "you compete as one at the olympics now do the same for the World Cup" argument.

It would be worth it just to see how gutted you lot would be.

But then you'd almost certainly get your own back by breaking up the Union.

Who knows what that nutter Blatter will do next anyway?

Would you not be gutted to lose your national team then?

It wouldnt make too much difference to me. Id support a British side.

The Welsh and NI would quite enjoy it once the got the vitriolics out of the way. Its only you lot who wouldnt.

It wouldnt be right I admit. I wouldnt like it, but Id accept it.

You really think the welsh would be up for it? They are as agaisnt it as we are. As our the NortherN irish fans. Infact so are the FSF

The Welsh wouldnt be up for it at first, but theyd get used to it. What about the 300 Cardiff lads out in Belgium Euro 2000? Yeah they were out there for the trouble, but they drank with England. Theres loads of Welsh lads who follow England test cricket team, I feel a bit sorry for them because they should have their own ODI team. Football is a minority sport in Wales, its the rugby the majority care about. Both Cardiff and Swansea used to have a lot of Unionist minded supporters because to be a football supporter in the first place in 1970's/1980's Wales you werent a 'bread of heaven'/ Welsh pride sort of bloke, its changed a bit recently. But I dont believe a lot of their vitriol, they just like trouble and stiring things up. The Welsh chip on the shoulder thing only really comes into play when the English are in Wales. They hate English taking their houses and jobs and thats fair enough. Weve exported a lot of trailer trash to them, and places like Newport the house prices are inflated by English. Hold matches at Wembley and their football supporters would go.

The Northern Irish team is supported mainly by the Protestants in NI. It would be a shame, because anything that brings people in NI together has to be a good thing. Being off the mainland their supporters would be hardest hit in the pocket (games might be played at Ibrox, but not Windsor Park). But end of the day their supporters must realise now that any campaign in which they beat the eventual winners of the entire competition, but still dont qualify, they probably wont ever qualify.

Which leaves you lot. The Euro's are going to be expanded next time, so Scots do have a great chance. I dont suppose any Scots apart from hardcore Rangers would support a GB team.

I suppose it appeals to me in a way because so many people would hate it, in all the home nations. Supporting England has been taken over by jester hat wearing muppets who dont have a club side, world cup tickets £700 each, all that bollocks. The players are wankers.

But you really need not worry. Even someone like me who could see some benefits wouldnt want to see it happen. If Sepp Blatter had any brains (which is questionable, but someone at FIFA must have some), they would realise that a British Football association would also equal a British football league. With Rangers and Celtic as well, I think the Premiership bandwagon would be completely unstoppable. With the money generated, no one else would get a look in.

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Great post

Right then, just to prove our point about Blatter's assurances meaning fuck all and how he changes his mind....

Spencer are you fishing here, or do you really believe that?   

Surely the principle of having a British team in football is no different to having a British Olympic team in general?
Why not split the countries and let them compete individually?

Welsh aint that bad about it.

No I mean the welsh lads supporting england at the cricket.

"Theres loads of Welsh lads who follow England test cricket team, I feel a bit sorry for them because they should have their own ODI team."

Was that a fishing attempt?

I'd be for a Team GB. I really don't understand what the problem is at all, every other sport get along fine as a unified Great Britian, why can't the football? It will only be for the Olympics and I seriously doubt the idea would be incorporated for the World Cups, Euro's etc. I'd be intrigued to see how we'd get on as well.

There have been several occasions in the past where other nations have tried to force a merger of the home nations. This would give a precedent for it and would give these countries more ammunition. Are you really willing to risk the identities of all the home nations, including englands, just so we can compete in a one off under23 tournament?

No.

I dont know what ive done wrong, but Im bracing myself for your nationalistic rage.  ;D

Point is Spencer is that its is the england and Wales cricket board. They already have a team. You could argue that Wales isnt a country anyway, its a principality.

No nationalistic rant fella, it's just as Will says, it's not the fact these welsh boys are supporting england, they are supporting their cricket team.  The ECB is the english and Welsh cricket boad, not just england, but typically the english focussed media hardly ever mention this and ignore the Welsh aspect to it.  Wales already has it's own one day team, just so happens to be the same team as you fellas support.

Nah, the point was that English and Welsh cricket fans get on fine. Not at each others throats all the time.

I agree wholeheartedly about the Welsh aspect to the England cricket team. They should call it the England and Wales Test Cricket Team. As for the rest of it, its just a personal opinion that if Ireland have Scotland have their own ODI teams but have players that also play for England test team and teams that play in the English league system that Wales too should have its own team. Because it would help the popularity of the game in Wales. I can assure you 100 per cent it was not arrogance on my part.

I guess what Spence is getting at is that I quite happily support the England cricket team, even when, like at the moment, there are no Welshmen (or Aussie-Welshmen) in the side. (Although Simon Jones is bowling well and fast this season and might be a shout if he can get over his latest little knock.

I guess that if there were no Welsh football side and Welsh players played for an joint English/Welsh side I wouldn't like it much, but eventually people would get over it. In 15 years there'd be kids that knew no different and felt the same way about the football side as I do about cricket.

All that being said it will never happen as there are too many fellah's in blazers at both the FA and FAW who aren't about to uncouple the gravy train.

Funny though as Wales and england have always seemed to get on better anyway, not sure of the history between the two in years gone by, I suppose that was down to the fact the fights were always between the crowns of england and Scotland.

Fair enough Spence I wasn't accusing you of arrogance, just more to do with the fact the welshies aren't supporting your country as it were, that's all.

nationality does not matter in cricket anyway

indeed. Are any english cricketers actually english? :soapy tit wank:

Nah, I just dont think the Welsh get the recognition they deserve in Cricket. They could be a half decent one day side anyway.

But no, in no way did I mean the Welsh lads on cricket tours were not supporting their own team.