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never thought much of them to be honest, but today they've got it spot on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7452171.stm

would have been nice to have the chance to say "no" too.

I like Europe and think we should merge into a super nation. Apart from Belgium they can fuck off.

And Scotland.

Sounds good to me. You can join the united states of France and Germany, and we can have all the North Sea oil. Winner! :mrgreen:

Ruined my politics notes and the exam's on Wednesday. Wankers.

And I cannot let that stand...Belgium is famous for two things and two things only...Beer and Chocolate.  That makes them great.  As does Delerium in Brussels, seller of over 2000 beers.  Frankly, I'd just happily join up with Belgium, and forget the rest.  Go Belgium.

The common market, eu or united states of...... aren't going to let a little thing like democracy stand in its way.  Next comes treaty mark 3 or the bride of treaty.  Either way we're fucked

You've made a good point

If only the EU flag wasn't so shit I think more people would love it!

The Irish like the subsidies, but don't like the Poles.

that just about hits the nail on the head reg.

I don't like the Dutch. That is all.

They dont want a referendum because we would have voted no....and then there would have been no lucrative euro Mps and no chance to fiddle the expenses!....oh and i hate the Germans because they make out 2 world wars didnt happen and the millions of jews who were gassed braught it on themselfs.

I don't think they do. I've always got the impression that the Germans are very aware of what happened during the second world war and it's something they have to learn throughout school etc.

Building trade in Ireland is on it's arse though.  Loads of big builders firms going under and a lot of the Poles are departing for pastures new.

Was talking to a Paddy a while ago and at one point 'blockers' were getting paid 3 Euros per block laid.

Fucking madness

The Eurocrats will still go ahead with ratifying the 'treaty', then make the Irish vote again because 'they got it wrong.'

The sooner we get out of the EU the better.

We'd be fucked if we did tbh. The only other alternative would be to join the united states, we wouldn't be able to cope economically on our own.

It's a crime to do that in Germany.

Crime to do what?

Make out that millions of Jews that were gassed brought it on themselves.

Sort of a point like this.

We're better off in the EU than we are out of it. But at the moment it's still a complete mess. I'd love Britain to embrace the EU with the view of improving it. Instead of our current political attitude of going along with it from a distance, whilst the public get fed the tabloid anti-eu nationalistic bollocks.

We'll be running out of chances to do the above, we'll soon be an irrelevant nation in the eyes of the world. Once that happens we don't want to be left as an individual nation fending for itself. The empire is long gone, the commonwealth means fuck all, and the only remaining evidence of our former global dominance is in deplomacy, and that power lessens by each year.

or something.

Also I predict an Arctic Oil Expedition War.

And in point of fact the most prominent figurehead of Holocaust denial (and most recently jailed for it until the wussy Austrians let him out instead of leaving him to rot in his own faeces) is British. So do you hate the British now?

Germany is one of the most liberal countries I've ever been to, probably due to the events of The Holocaust.

Apart from a few knuckle dragging neo nazis, Germans are more well informed than most nationalities about what happened in the death camps, as it forms part of their educational syllabus (Or did).

Ask your average 12-16 year old in this country about it and they probably wouldn't have a fucking clue what you're on about.

Frankly Herthab, asking most average 12-16 year olds in this country about anything is a waste of time, unless the subject matter involves drugs, fags, booze and sex.........

All important things Coxy :D

True, but I'm getting old........ :old:

That'd be a Cold War.

Is that that Mosley cunt?

Not the F1 bloke, his dad?

Wasn't he just a nazi.

I think Pauld is refering to David Irving or whatever he's called.

What 'Germans' have you been talking to?

You're more likely to find people in England who will claim that than you are in Germany.

Sorry to comment on this again after other people have but this sort of made-up claim really makes me angry, something like the Holocaust could easily have happened anywhere, like England.

Britain invented the concentration camp.

 I'm impressed....the most ill thought out post in the history of the TEF.

8)

That was worded pretty badly and not explained at all, but I can't be bothered to explain what I was trying to say. It made sense at the time.

Hmm, massive generalisation alert!

Not true, it was the Spainsh in Cuba, a few years before the British camps in South Africa (I assume you are refering to those, however, if you are referring to earlier camps, then you may be right).

Didn't the Yanks first use them? They weren't called Concentration Camps though. My history knowledge is shit though.

Not heard the Yanks thrown up as a first before.  Of course, it is important to realise the different between a concentration camp and an extermination camp.  The sole purpose of an extermination camp was to kill people.  I don't think the Nazis minded if people died in the concentration camps, however.

no it fuckin' well would not have !

Hmmn., not exactly the most revolutionary prediction I'v ever heard.  I'm sure I was reading about this possibility in the press not so long ago.  Canada and Russia are already at loggerheads about this, by all accounts.

Yeah well I can't read, so that's still a good prediction.