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Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:39:30
Couple of questions as i'm upgrading some components:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 320GB SATA-II 16MB Cache
or
Samsung SpinPoint F1 750GB SATA-II 32MB Cache

Thermaltake ToughPower 750W Power Supply
or can someone recomend something better?

EVGA GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB GDDR3?
i've only chosen this cos i can't get the XFX version for £199 on overclockers as it's sold out.

thoughts?


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:50:36
Samsung has bigger cache, get that one.

Graphics will be plenty good enough.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:55:42
hopefully the graphics cards will drop in price next week as Nvidias new cards are out next week


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 13:36:06
The Samsung Spinpoint 750 is the best drive available at the moment mate.

Its almost the speed of the Raptor...which for speed is still the driver to beat but they are only available in 150mb and 300mb and at 10,000rpm are very noisy and the other minus point.....£120 for the smaller and £210 for the bigger drive you dont get much storage space for your pennies.

I very much recommend the Spinpoints I use them all the time, 250, 500, 750 and 1TB are all good drives but the 750 is the bogs dollocks  :D


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 13:39:26
PS....

Nvidia 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130449

£174.99inc VAT and P&P at Ebuyer with 70+ in stock right now.....a damn good card...not quite a 9800GX2 but a good medium spec card.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 14:02:46
never noticed that one whilst on there earlier.
will save me £50 thats for sure  8)


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: myxo on Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 16:14:50
get an Enermax PSU


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 16:18:51
If you're going to spend the money of an Enermax then the Be Quiet! dark power pro is a better PSU. Would question why you need to spend so much though.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 18:48:57
Enermax are good but hugely overpriced unless you desperatly need perfect reliabilty in stable voltages..which any normal home user wouldnt ever need, I would never bother spending more than £50-£60 on a PSU.

Would rather save the extra £100 and spend it on watercooling.....I have my watercooling kit on order now, cant wait to overclock my PC with it.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 20:20:19
How much has that set you back edmunds?

What are you going to cool with it?


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 09:33:39
I am starting with just the Chip cooler and adding the vga blocks when money allows, the whole set up with a silent fan installed in the box is only £69.99 but the vga blocks are a cool £39 each for the 2 I need so I am holding back on that just yet.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 09:38:02
£70 is pretty cheap. What one is that?

I want to dabble into water cooling after reading how it's done. I'd have to get a new case or mod one though, as I'd quite like it kept all in the one box.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 09:41:24
I am trying out the Alphacool system, which is sealed but easily upgradable to add GPU coolers in it, £69 from the coolingshop inc vat and postage.

Scan.co.uk sell similar products, they arent great cooling but I too want to dabble without spending vast amounts of money.

This one there is no modding of the case at all as its kept "in house" inside the case, some of them you have to make holes in the case and have the cooler outside the case.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 09:44:13
I was tempted by this one as well at a few quid more....the thermal take bigwater

http://www.thecoolingshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/2157

From the reviews I have read I should be able to easily break the 4ghz overclock on my E6750 which is running at 3.6ghz with Arctic Pro 7 cooling already.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 09:50:45
Yeah I was looking at some of the swiftech ones as they have good reviews. My case at the moment would need modding to fit the radiator properly and allow it to cool.

One consideration I'd have is the size of the pump for what I needed to cool. I'm sure I'd start off with just the cpu, but obviously VGA and chipset can be watercooled as well.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 10:01:18
Yeah my 8800GT's run at up to 80 degrees c so I am in 2 minds whether to just go for new cooling fans for around £20 each or the watercooling on them for nearly twice the price but I guess they will be twice as efficient, I am not too sure as reviews for watercooled GPU's are a bit rarer than for CPU's.

And the thought that if I sold the 8800gt's off for £100 each and put the extra £80 to it I can afford a 9800gx2......a quandry!


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 12:56:42
It'd be interesting to see how the EVGA black pearl edition of the gx2 performs and how much it will cost


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 15:51:36
Quote from: "Si Pie"
It'd be interesting to see how the EVGA black pearl edition of the gx2 performs and how much it will cost




Incorrect.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 16:35:37
Quote from: "jayohaitchenn"
Quote from: "Si Pie"
It'd be interesting to see how the EVGA black pearl edition of the gx2 performs and how much it will cost




Incorrect.


 :soapy tit wank:


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 18:37:03
Quote from: "Si Pie"
It'd be interesting to see how the EVGA black pearl edition of the gx2 performs and how much it will cost


Apparently its supposed to be around £50 more than the standard EVAG 9800GX2 according to leaked information from EVGA, which means it will be not far short of £400  :shock:


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 18:59:42
Quote from: "jjedmunds"
Quote from: "Si Pie"
It'd be interesting to see how the EVGA black pearl edition of the gx2 performs and how much it will cost


Apparently its supposed to be around £50 more than the standard EVAG 9800GX2 according to leaked information from EVGA, which means it will be not far short of £400  :shock:


Yeah but the waterblock for one is about £80 anyway. Plus they're a bugger to get apart.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 12, 2008, 19:13:24
Thats very true they do look a total beast of a graphics card tho, hopefully when Nvidia announce the latest set of GPU's in about 2 weeks or so the prices will lower a bit on the older models.


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, June 13, 2008, 10:32:56
i've inherited an hp omni book p3 600 mhz and replaced the broken HDD with a new one, but the computer man round the corner wants £40 to put XP on there. fair price?

i don't know how easy it would be to do myself, i think the cd drive is broken but have an external hdd which i could get xp onto....


Title: Comp Geeks
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 13, 2008, 10:40:05
If you have an XP license already then I wouldn't pay £40. If you don't have one then it is worth it.

In terms of how you do it:

http://www.modaco.com/content/asus-eee-pc-http-www-eeeasy-com/262505/installing-xp-from-an-external-hard-drive/#entry864398