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sorry jan :mrgreen:

Rangers deserve to win imo.
People have been slagging off their tactics, but who gives a fuck when its got them the results?

Novo and Whittaker to score, 2-1 i think.

Indeed. Id rather win ugly than lose playing "sexy football"

Exactly.

As Frank McAvennie once sang (on Youtube)

"I'm no a Billy I'm a Tim,
I'm no a Billy I'm a Tim,
I'm no a Billy, I'm no that ***king silly,
I'm no a Billy I'm a Tim, thank ***k!"

(although I'm no Tim either).

I'm really torn about tonight, I'd love to see a Scottish club win a European Trophy.....

....as long as it's not Rangers, who I don't even consider to be Scottish.  

So it's Zenit for me!!

If it were the Scots v any English team I'd go for said English side however the jocks deserve something out of this so I'm cheering Rangers.

Supporting Dick and Fernando then Jan :mrgreen:

Coming out to watch it?

Got to support rangers.... More Scots in the team than  hibs :soapy tit wank:

Olaf is a legend. One of footballs good guys. Looking forward to seeing him at Juve next season.

That's because when we produce decent Scottish players (year after year) you old firm wankers steal them from us!!!  

I'm supporting no one tonight, just hope the "better" team wins, and the better team is Zenit St Petersburg!!!

Then I'll be cheering on Motherwell, St Mirren and the Doonhamers to completely ruin your season!!

Never forget the traitors, Walter Smith and Big Eck.  McLeish has had his reward for letting his country down, hopefully Walter will get his tonight!   :wink:

I wont lose any sleep if Rangers get beat, just hope its a good game ....

Looking at the supporters in Manchester today Rangers will definitely have a huge advantage with support, must be at least 200 Scots in town to every Russian. 8)

not really a suprise that is it

It would be nice for them to win but I ain't that bothered to be honest. I find it hard to cheer on the sweaties.

I just hope Chelsea get beat in the Champions League final next week.

I hope Drogba breaks a leg.

Diving cunt.

No its not a surprise they outnumber the Ruskies, but they only have 30,000 tickets and 100,000 Rangers fans have turned up, 70,000 around the bars of Manchester tonight without tickets, that's pretty awesome.

My little brother will be loving it up there tonight. Would love to see that atmosphere.

That could also be very volatile .
I hope the police have ample control measures in place ? .

Sorry for the above, Gerald nicked my laptop.

How can they deserve to win before the game's even started? Zenit have also got results this season, by playing quick, incisive passing football, and I know what I'd rather watch.

Rangers are going to have to have a go for a change tonight though, so I'm looking forward to it.

Rangers to win on penalties - Come on Zenit

I think Zenit will have too much for Rangers, I suppose the fact that Rangers are almost at "home" will help their cause, but not sure if that'll be enough.

Zenit are fucked. I just put £25 on them to win!!! :twisted:  :soapy tit wank:

I hope Zenit win. I also hope every year that the Jock teams get knocked out at the earliest opportunity - they normally oblige.

You really need to get out more!

He's only telling the truth, they do normally get knocked out very early in competitions.

Rangers, Celtic, Dundee Utd, Aberdeen - who are yere.

I can understand wanting your local rival national teams to get knocked out the sooner the better, but hoping that all their club sides lose all the time sounds like the geezer has issues.  Couldn't really care about any other nations club sides tbh.

German, French, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, english, couldn't care who gets through.

Still can't force yourself to type English with a capital 'E' then?!  :D

I could not give a fuck who wins

It weird it seems to work when I type beautiful city names such as Edinburgh but not for other lesser geographical areas!!

Dell said

"Rangers, Celtic, Dundee Utd, Aberdeen - who are yere."

Well as much as it pains me to say Rangers are the UEFA cup finalists, in case you hadn't noticed.

I agree but I'm probably more bitter and twisted than most football fans. I don't like the Scottish national team and I don't like the clubs either. I'm English and i will support English clubs in Europe. I also want Pompey to win the FA Cup - English not Welsh.

To be fair, I agree with that bit. Not sure if taht's just because Cardiff are a bunch of tossers though  :?

Fair enough fella, each to their own, I agree with the choice of Pompey too.

Mind you I can't work out whether I want ManUre or Chelski to win. A northern bunch of bastards against a southern bunch of bastards.

Rule Brittania!

http://i.pbase.com/g4/66/682866/2/63716182.uiYhFzx6.jpg

I think I read somewhere that stated "Rule Brittania" was written as a piss take, not sure if it's true or not mid you.

Tonights going to be class, c'mon the Gers  :beers:

King Billys on the wall

Personally I'll be rooting for Leningrad....if the heroic people of that city hadn't tied up the Wehrmacht, we might have ended up in deep shit.

I probably wont even watch it, it's on instead on The Bill. Thats the 3rd Wednesday running they have had something else on instead.  :evil:

I hope the Gers win tonight they will probably win it on pens again. Don't care how they play football as long as they win i don't give a fuck. Fiorentina should of battered them in the semi in Florence but they did not take their chances. I think Fiorentina had 23 shots off target. Zenit will provide a really tough test and i think Rangers will scrape it. As Zenit is missing there key player in the big striker  Pavel Pogrebnyak who destroyed Bayern Munich before Lucio antics got him booked.

haw haw

I've been watching the second half of the apprentice

Raef is great isnt he

"to be fair theirs a reason why size 16-32 girls are size 16-32; they like cake"  :D

Congrats to Zenit....clearly the better side.  Walter "Catenachio " Smith what's that all about....slight irony that it was Celtic in 67, who by defeating  Herrara's Inter, supposedly consigned catenachio to the dustbin.

rangers fans currently smashing up manchester city centre apparently, and fighting amongst each other.
and a russian fan has been stabbed too according to the news.

All because they couldn't turn the big telly on. Ho hum.

those bloody begbies

The BBC report quotes a "frustrated fan" as saying:


5 grand to get from Glasgow to Manchester?  :shock: If I'd known they were paying that, I'd have given a carful of them a lift myself for only 2 grand each

EDIT: Mind, the same report also seems to think Zenit won 2-1. Hurrah for the BBC - can't even read the reports on their own website. Worth every penny of the licence fee!

and they didnt get a ticket anyway, fucking idiots

Rangers fans were walking up the Curry Mile singing the National Anthem earlier this afternoon, waving Union Jacks - that takes some balls doing that in Rusholme. Had a mate come back from Uni at bout half 8 - said big screen wasn't working in town and that the Rangers fans were far from happy - loads were getting on random buses to find any bars/pubs. Most missed first half at least.

Don't get me wrong Rangers did well to get to the final, but got what they deserved given there negative defensive approach. Only one team played to score and that was Zenit, who has been superb all through the UEFA Cup fair play to them.

The thing that made me laugh the most was the pictures of Walter Smith after Zenit scored the first - furiously trawling through his notes. One game play and no answer once it is broken down

Once again absolute toss and classic to hear from a German whos national team has played this style for years and been succesful with it.  Rangers had chances last night, they hit the post, had a penalty appeal, Whittaker's deflected shot wide and Novo's chance right at the end.  Yes first half was negative but Rangers had a go after the break and had the Russians worried.

Walter Smith and the team can hold there heads up high after a tremendous european campaign, hopefully they will now move on to a domestic treble  :beers:

They scored 5 goals in 8 games by obviously having a game plan and it worked so fair play to them but last night when they had to change that game plan they were found wanting

Dachauer is right

I thought Rangers were awful last night, I haven't seen many of their games this season on the tele, but for me they would be just an average Championship side in the English leagues.

I disagree he took a team that had no right to get through the early rounds of the Uefa all the way to the final in the only means possible.  They barely got found out last night, they put the Russians under some pressure and if Nova had took that late chance they would of gone to extra time.  Look player for player against every team and Rangers should of lost but they showed a never say die spirit which Walters famous for and almost won a european trophy, they deserve praise not criticism.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: What an absolute joke of a comment, they got to the uefa cup final FFS, there on course for a domestic treble.  In Cuellar they have one of the best centre backs in europe, in England they would be challenging for a european place with Villa & Everton.

Domestic treble your right enough said. The gap between The Championship and The Premiership grows every year, the gap between Scottish Premier and English Premier is even wider and will never be breached again.
I have always thought it wouldbe good for British football to see Rangers and Celtic playing against the top English clubs in our league but I would fear they would not survive even though they would have fantastic support.

If the gap is as big as you say how come Rangers put Florentina out and Everton went out to Florentina?

Cup games are so different from league.

Ask Cardiff

Enda don't rise to those kind of comments, anyone who compares the old firm to championship football is obviously deluded.

But as for Rangers performance sadly I agree that they got what they deserved, the traitor's tactics were all wrong, far too defensive, the better team won which is fair enough as far as I'm concerned.

Hopefully the Celts will have another good showing in Europe next year, can only be good for the Scottish national side, which is all I really care about.

Barnsley beat chelsea and liverpool and cardiff beat barnsley does that mean cardiff are better than chelsea and lpool?

2 legged cup ties are exactly same as league though as you go away trying to stay tight and you try to win home games.  I would say Cardiffs situation is massively different as they were just playing 1 game per round.

As I said below your comment over 2 legs is very different to one off games, you have had to perform both on your own patch and in there back yard.

Spot on Jan

 :oops: Cant help it Jan that kind of comment is so short sighted it makes me want to respond, alot of the Scottish teams are alot stronger than most people south of the border realise.

This could go on and on ... we disagree ... I think Scottish club sides are very average, you do not.

Rangers and Celtic are huge clubs and both are in the top 6 in Britain for support, but we are talking about football standards, when you are playing the likes of Gretna, Aberdeen, Motherwell etc there really isn't any competition, in the end the title will always be between Rangers and Celtic, great for their supporters, bad news for the standard of football in Scotland.

Yep, League 1 at best  :fishing:

My final comment on this as you said it could go on and on.  But if your final comment is true then surely Man U or Chelsea being the only teams to win premiership in recent years means great for their supporters, bad news for the stand of football in England.

It would be unfair to compare the English Premier League to the Scottish Premier League

Rangers have been very frustrating to watch in Europe, but I do mean that in a good way. They have stifled technically superior teams only in part because of Smith's tactics. Far more important has been the fact that every single one of those players works their fucking balls off for every minute of every match. Imagine how frustrating they must be to play against?

Give Zenit credit though, they kept their cool, kept playing their tight passing game and ultimately got what they deserved. It was always going to be game over once they took the lead and the best team won. No question.

I agree it would be unfair to compare a league that recieves millions and millions of pounds in sponsorship alone, that serves a country of 50million+ people to the SPL, which receives little sponsorship and serves a country of 5 million.

Well maybe if the Spl did something about the amounts of cash Rangers and Celtic get and maybe divide the tv rights up fairly it could become more competetive

The TV companies dictate DRS, nowt much the SPL can do is there?

It is a shame the wealth is so unevenly spread, but the same happens down here.

I could have sworn you just called him Edna! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  New nickname I think!

Arsenal!!

What did they win?

Arsenal have won the title twice since the turn of the century, not bad two Premierships in eight seasons.
If my memory serves me correctly Aberdeen were the last side to win the Scottish title around 1984, since then it has only been won by Celtic or Rangers.
Even Liverpool have won the title three times since 1984.

Now have a nice day, I promise to shut up now. :wink:

But Queen of the South (from the tiny town of Dumfries) will win the Scottish Cup next Saturday!!!

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I really hope they do fella, that'd be immense!!!!

Can't believe you lot have Aberdeen away on the last day too, they'll be trouble that day, not much love lost between the hun and the sheep shaggers!!

Would Queen of the South get into Europe regardless?

Have to admit i didn't watch this last night because Rangers are so fucking dull to watch in Europe[and The apprentice was on AND i've been forced to watch ancient Rangers videos all week ].

Pleased they lost as the they play football in Europe shouldn't win them anything in my view.

yes

Fair fucking shout.

Aberdeen should have won the title in 1991. They only needed a point at Ibrox on the last day of the season, but they lost. Mark Hateley scored twice.

Thing about Scotland is that the big clubs have dominated for much longer. Maybe 25 years now. But English football has been dominated by 3 maybe 4 clubs for 15 years. They are one phase ahead of us in terms of big clubs dominating. The whole 9 in a row thing kept Scottish football on the edge of its seat until 1998. But since then its not been the same. Its been a turn off, TV deals are greatly reduced to what they were when Sky had it. Why wont fans turn off the English Premier League in 10 more years time when the same teams win every year?

I think if Rangers and Celtic were ever allowed into English football they would be absolutely monstrous. Man United still got 50k in the 2nd tier. But Rangers and Celtic would get 50k in our basement league. The English clubs are scared Rangers and Celtic would take their limelight away. Thats why there will never be a British league.

 Rangers like all Scpottish clubs were allowed into the FA Cup in the late years of the 19th century, as professional football started to overtake amateur.

  Queen's Park reached 2 FA Cup Fiinals,  losing to Blackburn on both occasions .....Rangers didn't do much apart from losing to Villa in one semi final.

  By the start of the 20th century the SFA had banned its sides from playing in the English FA Cup.
 
 I think that was Rangers chance.....but they probably rightly discerned it would be easier to win things by sticking with the SFA.

I dont really understand why alot of English people choose to follow Rangers,its mostly lads and to do with all this "Loyalist" bullshit.Why anyone gives a shit is beyond me.Also why's it alright to have Rangers as a second team but considered a sin to have a second team in the Prem?

I don't think Rangers and Celtic should be in the English league just because they are too good for the Scottish League.

On that basis why not round up the best teams in every worldwide leage and put them in the same competition?

Ooh good idea lets start it,we'll make millions!

Liverpool did nothing until the 1960's. Doesnt mean anything.

 :fishing:

 The point I'm trying to make is that in the early years of football developing in Britain....the English FA were prepared to allow Rangers and other Scottish sides to play in English football.

 For whatever reason Rangers opted not to pursue this option....

 Liverpool had won 5 titles before their 25 year hegonomy of the mid 60's to late 80's

My Cat was born in Glasgow hence why i follow Rangers.....hope that clears that up for you.

Whats really winding me me up about all this Manchester thing now is the fucking Rangers fans ringing up the Football phone ins and blaming everyone else,so far ive heard  the trouble blamed on Stoke,Millwall and West Ham.Getting a fucking grip you Scottish cunts.The Scots are notorious violent drunks,I bet everyone on this forum knows a volitile  Jock down their local with a stupidly short temper.

Also if I have to hear one more Celtic /Aberdeen wanker saying "ooh its a Rangers problem we're always well behaved ,we've won awards for being  great dont you know" im going to fucking scream.

Calm down there son. I hope you're not on duty tonight, or there are going to be some shit-scared pilots about........

Im calm 8)

Oh dear, Rangers may not win the league now

Well done Celtic, it's in their hands now.  Walter's less than attacking philosophy looks like it's lost them the title, although I could be proved wrong if they gub St Mirren 8-0 I suppose.

Very happy for Celtic, they've got some great fans, who've won awards for their fantastic behaviour, "Scotland's shame" get what they deserve.  Nothing.

Come on the doonhamers!!!

That comment just shows how competitive Jock football is, you have already taken for granted that you win away from home you last fixture. :shock:

Dell I'm not a Celtic fan, I was fishing for gers fans that's all.

I expect some of them are still in jail

 :fishing:

They got issued an ultimatum to quit English competitions or be banished from SFA ones didnt they? They were quite keen on things like that. They didnt want to pick Scots playing in England for the national side until they had to pick Dennis Law.

Sorry Spencer, but that is bollocks.

This whole thread is bollocks

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No it's not  :wink:

For just over 8 hours i felt powerful

Sorry, I feel guilty now.

My old man peddles that one.

The Italians still do it. They back players from their own league.

It was taboo for Scottish players to come south.