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Title: Bees.
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 14:58:38
Just some random thought that entered my head for whatever reason.

But by all accounts it is against all of the laws of physics for  bee to be able to  fly. Mental little fuckers.

That's all from me.

Anybody else have some random piece of trivia for today?


Title: Bees.
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:07:32
I'm afraid the laws of physics stand up to bee flight...

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In his 1934 French book Le vol des insectes, M. Magnan wrote that he and a Mr. Saint-Lague had applied the equations of air resistance to bumblebees and found that their flight was impossible, but that "One shouldn't be surprised that the results of the calculations don't square with reality".[4]

In 1996 Charlie Ellington at Cambridge University showed that vortices created by many insects’ wings and non-linear effects were a vital source of lift;[5] vortices and non-linear phenomena are notoriously difficult areas of hydrodynamics, which has made for slow progress in theoretical understanding of insect flight. In 2005 Michael Dickinson and his Caltech colleagues studied honey bee flight with the assistance of high-speed cinematography[1] and a giant robotic mock-up of a bee wing[6], which "proves bees can fly, thank God”.


Although it seems it's less of a myth than I thought it might be.


Title: Bees.
Post by: neville w on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:09:31
Quote from: "flammableBen"
I'm afraid the laws of physics stand up to bee flight...

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In his 1934 French book Le vol des insectes, M. Magnan wrote that he and a Mr. Saint-Lague had applied the equations of air resistance to bumblebees and found that their flight was impossible, but that "One shouldn't be surprised that the results of the calculations don't square with reality".[4]

In 1996 Charlie Ellington at Cambridge University showed that vortices created by many insects’ wings and non-linear effects were a vital source of lift;[5] vortices and non-linear phenomena are notoriously difficult areas of hydrodynamics, which has made for slow progress in theoretical understanding of insect flight. In 2005 Michael Dickinson and his Caltech colleagues studied honey bee flight with the assistance of high-speed cinematography[1] and a giant robotic mock-up of a bee wing[6], which "proves bees can fly, thank God”.


Although it seems it's less of a myth than I thought it might be.


Shouldn't that be less of a moth ?


Title: Bees.
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:10:42
:D i liked that


Title: Bees.
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:15:18
Booo at neville.


On the subject of bees. The Japanese Honey Bee has an interesting defence against everybody's favourite insect, the Asian Giant Hornet.

When one of these mighty beasts invades the bee's layer, they crawl on it and vibrate until it get's so hot it dies. The magic temperature is 47 °C  which the bee's can survive, but the hornet can't cope with temperatures about 45 °C


Take that mr. hornet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Vespa_mandarinia.jpg


Title: Bees.
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:29:40
Quote from: "flammableBen"
Booo at neville.


On the subject of bees. The Japanese Honey Bee has an interesting defence against everybody's favourite insect, the Asian Giant Hornet.

When one of these mighty beasts invades the bee's layer, they crawl on it and vibrate until it get's so hot it dies. The magic temperature is 47 °C  which the bee's can survive, but the hornet can't cope with temperatures about 45 °C


Take that mr. hornet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Vespa_mandarinia.jpg


That picture is ace, I used to have it as my desktop wallpaper.

Did you ever find out who won the final from japanesebugfights Ben?

I can't be arsed to check myself whilst on dial-up.


Title: Bees.
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:31:17
oooh I'll have a butchers.


Title: Bees.
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:34:58
My guess is the Camel Spider, they are mean fuckers. (Although not poisonous)


Title: Bees.
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 15:37:05
My tinterweb is being slow. I'll have a butchers later.

I wouldn't know what any of them are called anyway. There doesn't seem to be any new ones with the giant unbeatable hornet.


Title: Bees.
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 16:00:22
Another random thought!

Why is peeling dried PVA glue off your hands so enjoyable.

And I KNOW that I am not the only one.

Discuss.


Title: Bees.
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 16:18:19
I love random trivia and have loads of books on useless crap..

I had to stop reading this rubbish as it served no purpose and just made me more pedantic. It's strange as well, because despite reading about 5 of these books, (i still have 4 or 5 unread), i feel like i can't remember anything cool. Well, apart from a partial recollection of some fact about how an old Queen (of France i think?), who had a penchant for cock a la horse, didn't actually die after being fucked by a horse and getting trampled on.

God i ramble, i almost then continued on with some useless trivia i do remember, but it's about as interesting as the 100 or so words preceding this full stop.


Title: Bees.
Post by: donkey on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 16:33:59
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
I love random trivia and have loads of books on useless crap..

I had to stop reading this rubbish as it served no purpose and just made me more pedantic. It's strange as well, because despite reading about 5 of these books, (i still have 4 or 5 unread), i feel like i can't remember anything cool. Well, apart from a partial recollection of some fact about how an old Queen (of France i think?), who had a penchant for cock a la horse, didn't actually die after being fucked by a horse and getting trampled on.

God i ramble, i almost then continued on with some useless trivia i do remember, but it's about as interesting as the 100 or so words preceding this full stop.


Catherine the Great of Russia (although I think she may have been German/Prussian - I'll wait for Reg to put me right :) )


Title: Bees.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 17:14:49
Quote from: "donkey"
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
I love random trivia and have loads of books on useless crap..

I had to stop reading this rubbish as it served no purpose and just made me more pedantic. It's strange as well, because despite reading about 5 of these books, (i still have 4 or 5 unread), i feel like i can't remember anything cool. Well, apart from a partial recollection of some fact about how an old Queen (of France i think?), who had a penchant for cock a la horse, didn't actually die after being fucked by a horse and getting trampled on.

God i ramble, i almost then continued on with some useless trivia i do remember, but it's about as interesting as the 100 or so words preceding this full stop.


Catherine the Great of Russia (although I think she may have been German/Prussian - I'll wait for Reg to put me right :) )


 Think its Birdy you want on this one.


Title: Bees.
Post by: donkey on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 17:24:06
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "donkey"
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
I love random trivia and have loads of books on useless crap..

I had to stop reading this rubbish as it served no purpose and just made me more pedantic. It's strange as well, because despite reading about 5 of these books, (i still have 4 or 5 unread), i feel like i can't remember anything cool. Well, apart from a partial recollection of some fact about how an old Queen (of France i think?), who had a penchant for cock a la horse, didn't actually die after being fucked by a horse and getting trampled on.

God i ramble, i almost then continued on with some useless trivia i do remember, but it's about as interesting as the 100 or so words preceding this full stop.


Catherine the Great of Russia (although I think she may have been German/Prussian - I'll wait for Reg to put me right :) )


 Think its Birdy you want on this one.


Or under it?


Title: Bees.
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 17:29:25
Quote from: "donkey"
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
I love random trivia and have loads of books on useless crap..

I had to stop reading this rubbish as it served no purpose and just made me more pedantic. It's strange as well, because despite reading about 5 of these books, (i still have 4 or 5 unread), i feel like i can't remember anything cool. Well, apart from a partial recollection of some fact about how an old Queen (of France i think?), who had a penchant for cock a la horse, didn't actually die after being fucked by a horse and getting trampled on.

God i ramble, i almost then continued on with some useless trivia i do remember, but it's about as interesting as the 100 or so words preceding this full stop.


Catherine the Great of Russia (although I think she may have been German/Prussian - I'll wait for Reg to put me right :) )


You made me check (the book is "The Pedants Revolt" for those that care!).

It was Catherine the great, and she was predominantly German i think (i coudn't be bothered to read the whole thing!), and the rumours were actually started by the French and she didn't infact fuck horses but those pesky frogs said she did. So the thing i do remember wasn't even very right! :D


Title: Bees.
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 17:35:29
Fuck Catherine the great and all that shite.

Am I the only one who enjoys peeling fried PVA glue off my hands or what?

I think not. I reckon that Catherine the great would have done it herself if they had PVA glue at the time.


Title: Bees.
Post by: donkey on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 17:37:30
Quote from: "BANGKOK RED"
Fuck Catherine the great and all that shite.

Am I the only one who enjoys peeling fried PVA glue off my hands or what?

I think not. I reckon that Catherine the great would have done it herself if they had PVA glue at the time.


I'm sure her Wikipedia entry says she does (or will do if anyone changes it :wink: )


Title: Bees.
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Thursday, April 24, 2008, 17:51:30
Quote from: "donkey"
Quote from: "BANGKOK RED"
Fuck Catherine the great and all that shite.

Am I the only one who enjoys peeling fried PVA glue off my hands or what?

I think not. I reckon that Catherine the great would have done it herself if they had PVA glue at the time.


I'm sure her Wikipedia entry says she does (or will do if anyone changes it :wink: )


He he. You are a bad influence Donkey. I'll see what I can do tomorrow at work tomorrow. (It's past my bedtime for today).