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Good parenting may not be an exact science and there a doubtless countless differing opinions on the matter that are all correct but........

The other day the misses and I where in a shop with our daughter, she wanted some sweets and considering it was getting late we said no. Our girl had a bit of a whinge and that was that.

Now some other toddler comes along, asks for sweets, his mum says no and so the spoilt little cunt throws himself onto the floor kicking and screaming until mummy buys him the sweets.

The little cunt then proceeds to wave the said sweets in my daughters face as if to say "Look what I got", and seeing that the other kids tantrum was a success my daughter follows suit and attempts a tantrum herself.

Now my wifes response, which I completely agree with, was to both pick my daughter up off the floor, give her a firm whack on the arse and lead her out of the shop without the sweets.

Again that was that, until the mother of the spoilt wee cunt proceeded to tell my misses that she is a bad mother for slapping her kid and not buying her sweets. And even went onto say that my wife and I can't love our kid for doing so. Well yours truly was livid at that and there was nearly quite a bit of bovver about it all.

What I am getting it is that bearing in mind the misses and I are never heavy handed with our girl, SURELY we are in the right, and the other parents derserve a bit of a slap themselves because they will allow their kids to grow up into spoilt little cunts.

Is there ANY argument in favour of not discipling your kids?

Anyone?

You're a monster.

Growwwlll.

 What's that coming over the hill....Bangkok Red.  You'd have social services paying a visit if it'd been en Angleterre.

   Give in and get used to it....you'll be doing it for the next 20+ years.

I got slapped many a time and did me no harm.

Just the threat of giving Jen a slap has been enough of a deterrent so far

I totally agree with what you BR, not spoiling kids is important and a slap on th eback of the legs teaches young kids very effectively. Certainly never did me any harm. There are very important boundaries to this though and something that 99% of parents have built in to them - unfortunately there are a few who have a lack of self control and just beat the shit out of kids. This is an entirely different issue.

I'm just winding you up because you're clearly just posting so people would say that you did the right thing. I didn't want to reward this sort of attention seeking behaviour :D

Definitely right not buying her sweets. Giving her a whack on the arse is up to you, not something that bothers me. I do worry when the hitting your kids debate comes up, that there seems to be a lot of people who don't know the difference between a smacked bum and beating the shit out of a kid.

 :soapy tit wank:  :soapy tit wank:  :soapy tit wank:

I guess I could have condensed my post into something like:

Don't you hate parents who spoil their kids.

Oh God, the Dail Mail readers will have a field day on that one! Smacking, why that's worse the serial killing.

You can't blame the "brat", clearly the upbringing was to blame.

Like you say, parenting is a personal thing. I can see the other argument of not smacking, but Personally, no I do not think smacking is bad as a last result, not OTT, etc, etc. And my little one certainly would not be getting sweets behaving like that. And yes the other parent was out of order sticking their nose in.

In all seriousness the thought of slapping a little girl is just wrong....one should explain to her in concise and clear language the reason why you are not going to to accede to her wishes on this occasion.....

 I will concede there are occasions, when it is acceptable to smack a big girl...and tell her she's been a naughty girl  :P

Your'e a little wide of the mark Ben. Of course I want to hear that I am right, but I also want to be the best father that I can be and am therefore open to suggestions.

Not only that the incident in the shop wound me up somewhat and so I am perhaps venting some fustration here,.

Up to the individuals really what i see as being right maybe seen as wrong by others and vice versa.

I dont think there is a correct way, as long as your kids grow up being respectful and knowing the difference between right and wrong im sure that will be seen as doing a good job.

So on that basis my Parents were fucking terrible :D

Think you did the right thing, kids need to learn that no means no.

Now im and only child and an only grandchild and my gramp, has certainly spoilt me in the past....and still bloody does!

On that note, the things he buys me (like cars!!) I dont ask for, he just buys.....sure I'm spoilt, but its case of I got gifts not things I asked for.....and if I did ask for something and was told 'no' that was the end of it.

As some who works with children, the way some of them behave leaves alot to be desired....

Sorry BANGKOK....i dont agree with smacking,ime not saying people shouldnt cos its there choice,but theres a fine line,kids copy their parents and while theres thousands of good parents like yourself theres thousands of bad ones who think its accepable to smack young kids all the time,maybe because i was braught up in care and saw lots of kids who suffered at the hands of there parents i think differently.....so as i say its only my opinion and know lots of people think that a smack never hurt them.....unfortunatly i saw lots of kids who got a smack ware it did hurt them.

If you use corporal punishment as a last resort....what do you use when it fails?

 Reminds me of when my oldest was little.....he had a paddy in the street refused to do something or other and sat down in the road.  Worrying about cars, his mother yanked him up, and promptly dislocated his arm....was great going to the hospital,  explaining that she'd pulled his arm out of his shoulder. :D

There is a strong rumour about Fred that you still enjoyed a bit of a slapping - especially on a Friday/Saturday night!! :wink:

Suggestions eh. Instead of smacking her you should have bought the sweets she likes and then eaten them in front of her. Pure evilness.

 You sure that shouldn't be slappers

Now there's a thought.  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

Have a Bangkok Flower Face!

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i think it's alright to an extent.
i got a few slaps as a kid, did the job i spose.

I think you did right BR. I know people will have differing opinions about smacking children but you were definitely right not to give in and buy them, just leads to kids being spolit brats. I've heard stories of incredibly spoilt children where I found it incredibly difficult to believe how inconsiderate and self-centred some children become.

All children should be raised by the state. The cost could be offset by scrapping the pension with a retirement=euthanasia policy. All money in private pensions should also be seized by the state and put in to robotic and AI research with the goal of building an android slave work force so we could all live like kings; eventually scrapping the Logan's Run policy when the robots were working well enough to sustain us all.

Shortcut to Utopia.

 Title for a novel right there.

If you fancy writing a dystopian novel in which a society has decided to throw away a certain demographic for the greater benefit of the rest of the people, then go for it Reg. I'll let you have the title.

They say everybody's got a book in them but I reckon that's bollocks. Well as long as you're judging on a reasonable standard of length and quality. Keeping the concentration level up to have consistent characterisation with a significant plot is something that at least my brain can't cope with. Others might have better luck.

You appear to have misunderstood what stance a typical Daily Mail  reader would take on a subject like smacking, as this (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=557440&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490) link represents.

BR, personally, I'd like to think that I wouldn't have smacked her, just picker her up from the floor, let her know that I wasn't happy, and taken her home immediately as I don't agree with smacking.

However, I don't have any kids yet (one imminent), so I can't really judge. I might turn into a mental kid beater.

you'll read one, one day.

Fair play axs, that's the first time I've laughed out loud at the forum for fucking ages. I'm sort of glad it was at my own expense.

 I started writing a book circa 1975...I'm still working on it.  Its not a work of fiction.

Really still working on it? Is it really long or do you average about 100 words a year?

she just had to get this bit in:



thats what the daily mail reader wants to hear.

I feel quite proud \ :D /

biography?

or either yourself or someone still living?

connect 4 woohooo!

It's not something to be proud of.

oh yes it is.

 Nah...nothing arty.  A photographic and personal interpretation of neolithic standing stones and stone cicles in the British Isles.

And it wasn't a real connect 4 as the connect 4 description was part of the connect 4. Sort of a post-modern connect 4.

meh.

lots of new theories flying about regarding stonehenge and there was a dig there very recently. On a random note, I worked there for a while ages ago with my old man taking detailed photos of the stones for a 3D display and conservation mapping.

what was this thread about again?

I remember some drunk frumpy older lady telling me about stone circles and history etc. around Swindon and Wiltshire in the beehive one night. Actually she's around the pub's of Old Town quite often if it's the same bird. Crazy, eccentric and very arrogant when drunk and in a bad mood. I think the only time I talked to her properly (ie. not having a cigarette outside the vic) she might have said she was a lecturer at Swindon college or something.

I'd imagine you'd know who I was talking about if I hadn't made her up or merged different people whilst drunk.

are you sure it wasn't Reg in a dress?

  Sounds good....my main interest is away from the well known sites, which although fascinating in their own right, tend to be well documented. Which takes me to the little known and neglected sites.

yes, there is probably a fair bit of competition for stonehenge / avebury books!

 I think I know who you're talking about....I wont name names, but said lady I found very ill mannered, and therefore had to have words on more than one occasion...the great thing is she's so pissed she never remembers and bears no ill will...I decided the reason why she wound me up was my fault..we now get on OK.

Yeah must be the same person. I wouldn't know her name anyway so it doesn't matter.

  No, but it wouldn't be right to impugn someone on a messageboard, when they have no chance of recourse.

Oh yeah, definitely. I meant more that it didn't matter if you knew her name because I didn't, not that you should be posting it on message boards.

Although a thread where you could just name people and slag them off would be quite fun. I reckon the TEF has a good enough Swindon coverage, that as long as it was a local person, there's a fairly good chance that someone else would know them.

Could be fun in an unnecessary drama sort of way. Of course it would inevitably end with Sonic having to ban everybody.