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If this is him, he doesnt seem to impressed  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

fucking idiot,. Funny he got subbed, you could tell he was getting well pissed off with the ONE GREEDY BASTARD chants  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

he was awful yesterday, dreadful!!

set up their first goal didn't he?

like him or not Jan he wasnt awful at all, great ball for their first goal. And he has something we havent got, a midfielder who likes a shot

An assist yeah, but everything else he did was poor.  Countless times he lost possession.

I don't remember him being that fat when he was here?

I take a huge amount of pleasure in that.

I haven't read the shit forum rubbish.

But anyhoo, Grant Smith always strikes me as a Swindon version of Lee Sharpe. Although Shapre used to always confuse me because when he was playing for Manure they were sponsored by Sharpe or something. Bit mental. Greatest fall down the leagues ever though.

Never really King's cuppa was he? The fella only got into the side when AK's hand was forced - first by injuries, then by the fact he did the business (goals, assists). At the first sign of a below average performance, he was out on his ear again.

Who know's what to believe about his 'supposed' contract offer. I maintain though, if you leave any club for one of their direct rivals, you should expect nothing but dogs abuse upon your return. You know the sensitivities before you leave and shouldn't be surprised if it all gets a little prickly before, during of after the game.

When all is said and done, we've now got a far better option on our left flank... indeed, did we ever really miss him? Life moves on and we'll soon be moving onwards and upwards past the likes of your Carlisles and Smiths.

Que sera sera.

fat oaf!

The Smith issue was something I know abit about and there were a number of reasons for him leaving as during his time here he lived in Cheltenham and was doing a part-time degree whilst playing for STFC at the Uni of Glos (where I was studying) hence the reason he went to City I imagine......he wanted to stay local and finish the course which is kindo of understandable. He was offered a reduced terms deal similar to what Howard was offered and he didn't get on with King so he had reasonable grounds for leaving in the end I would say especially when City offered him security and a better deal who wouldn't accept it? In all honesty he was an approachable guy and easy to talk I don't really hold any grudges he's just been unfortunate with how his career has panned out.

Howard wasnt offered a deal, Kingy had to offer a deal to either Smith or Howard and chose Smith, Howard wouldnt have signed anyway as he was pissed off at being benched whilst Lee Holmes was on loan

Howard was offered a reduced terms deal and rejected it......Sandy Gray was peddled out to say they didn't offer a deal as result.

 :nono:

I think you will find it was the case mate

if they did offer Howard a contract and he turned it down, why lie and say they didnt offer him 1? that would make the club look even worse, surely if he rejects it they can make him to look like a money grabber like they did with Smith

Because at the time they probably didn't want it known they were offering reduced terms contracts........who knows but Howard refused a new deal and when he said that in the press Gray popped up and basically called him a liar. As per usual the old board fed supporters a pack of lies and at that time the majority of our fans fell for it, thankfully the truth about them came out in the end.

you are way wide of the mark im afraid fella

dont mess with jpc82. He stalks all the players, he knows these things

offering someone under the age of 24 a reduced contract is fucking stupid.

We should have offered him an improvement deal, even it was only by 1p a year....then if he did turn it down then we would have been entitled to some compo surely?

exactly DV

Obviously they tell him lies to get rid of him........ I seem to remember there was even a thread on here about Howard and it appeared common knowledge he had been offered reduced terms.

then who ever started the thread didnt know the truth

Your the one who appears to not know the truth though he was offered a deal on reduced terms end of story really.

I know who is right here but I'm not saying anything as I want a full on argument to break out  :mrgreen:

what u basing this on? that u spoke to Grant Smith a few times? most people on here know that i have know a few players past and present and have been right bout all the stuff i have informed people about before

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: my contributions finished

If you know lebowski P.M. me the answer, I know who my money is on.

I love forum squabbles.

How do you know the players JPC 82? is it part of your job/family or something?

Just curious like.

2 connections mate, went to college with all the youths from a few years back and also 6 players past and present have been involved with my parents company

loooking back in t'old threads it seems fairly common consensus that howard wasn't offered a contract, and smith was offered a contract, but city offered him a better one. But everything would be all right because we had thorpe and cureton....

correct dave

well, apart from the last bit...

Glos not singing, glos not singing, glos not singing anymore!!!!

i'm fairly sure we offered smith a contract over howard too.

Oh deary me are you about 10 or something.

Contract negotiations with Howard actually began in the February prior to him leaving in May and at one stage he was only a few days from signing a new deal but then the goalposts changed and the deal was shelved whilst we tried for the play-offs. Howard was then offered a deal on reduced terms in the summer following Grant Smiths rise to the fore. Andy King himself even let it slip later on in the closed season when he said he didn't even really offer the contract to Howard as it was reduced terms and he knew it wouldn't have been acceptable. Once Smith rejected his deal they turned their attention back on Howard upping the offer but by then it was too late. Grant Smith and Brian Howard are 2 players I actually know alot about as the first team captain at uni was Brian Howards best mate and one of my mates was Paul Stapleton's son and Grant Smith spent a period on loan at Plymouth. I know fuck all about other players but I think you will find I'm right about this  :roll:

well, if howard was offered improved terms on the contract he was currently on at the time we would have been due compensation. if i remember correctly we didn't receive any, which would suggest he was offered a worse deal.

He was on quite a wadge as he was on the verge of signing for Chelsea as peculiar as it sounds when King somehow King signed him. They couldn't match that deal but offered an increased reduced terms deal if that makes sense  :?

Howard wasnt on great money at all! Howard was at Chelsea for a few months trying to earn a contract until Ambramovich took over and signed Veron Cole and Duff within a few weeks, Howard was fucked! joined on the same money as Nicho which was £800p/w,

I've just had a quick look around the net and it even says on the Barnsley official site on his player profile that he rejected a new offer here...... anyway thats me done for night as got limited power at home at the moment as the flood rebuild (or lack of) carries on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/4546997.stm

shall we just leave it there glos  :D

I couldn't say either way, although I want glos to be right.

I can say that in that close season we did everything we could to get players off our books.  We were on a rapid wage reduction spree under the old regime, probably because they knew the shit storm was on it's way without further investment coming in (as it turned out).  Players were offered reduced terms and we did shave some of the wage bill off.  The impact was seen the next season when it became clear that our side was no longer anywhere good enough to survive in the same league.

Who really gives a fuck? It doesn't matter one bit, as neither are our players. :shrug:

Hahahha, they're both wrong.  8)

just seen this thread from AGES ago!
haha how can RobertT say he wants Glos to be right when the link above states Howard wasnt offered a deal

let it go.

Why would you purposely look up a discussion from a time when it was at least a topic of debate (the fact Smith was playing against us), just to mock/get a reaction from RobertT. Are you that bored?

 :-))(

I was bored enough to look through the threads with no replies earlier.

I almost felt quite proud that I didn't see any of my threads on the list, until I realised that I have a tendancy to reply to my own threads.

very bored

   :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Clearly it went so far over your head it's taken a while to catch up with it.  My comment was not in anyway related to the facts or lack of in anyones statements.

Oh well, what was it all about anyway? (i refuse to click back a page)

wtf :?  who gives a fuck about this anyway?
dragging up an old thread that can be of relevance to the current time-yes.this one-why?

I was clicking about on a few old threads and spotted the gem of a post I made about BEST holdings, which is now my signature.

And yes I was bored.

'tis definitely a low point in the sport of thread resurrection.

Shame on you JPC.

but it is of relevance si pie. :wink:  therefore making it valid imo.

I like to think Fitton took my idea on board. Whether that's the reality I couldn't say either way, but I'd also like Glos to be right.