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Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: DMR on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 18:02:52
brez - shite. kicking poor, handling poor - he dropped a routine cross onto a strikers foot, and i could have saved that bloody shot that went in, had no pace on it at all - 3

minges - thought he was good in the second half, seems to have a great understand with JPM, defensively wnt AWOL a bit though - 6

aljofree - this guy is as ned flanders would say "a panicky pete," lashes at everything and it was good to see vincent give him some verbals in the first half for not communicating - 4

ifil - worst performance of the season, what a soft goal - 5

vincent - the best i've seen him play at full back. vocal too, should be the skipper- 7

jpm - i still think he's lazy but a couple of killer passes, which i suppose is what he's all about. his first touch is disgraceful though - 6

peacock - defensively... solid. progressively... fucking terrible. similar to sturrock, in that he works his nuts off but is a bit shite - 4

easton - a proper battler, probably either him or vincent for motm - 7

zaboub - i'll refrain from passing comment as i'd really go off on one - 1

sturrock - see peacock really, still got his goal which he certainly deserved over paynter - 5

paynter - gash - 4

byrne/williams - of it's abundantly clear things aren't working change it ffs! left it too late to bring roberts on seeing as zaboub was having the proverbial 'mare.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Chubbs on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 18:08:04
Oh do one, Out of Zaboub and JPM, Zaboub was far the better player, JPM did not seem interested at all untill maybe the last 15 minutes when him and ming played some nice passes, Zaboub did well today bar the odd poor touch, but then look at minges passing today


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: lebowski on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 18:44:50
some of the comments after each player are the most wide-of-the-mark things i have ever seen on this forum.

and that is really saying something.

give yourself a clap.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: DMR on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 18:48:42
It's only opinion  8)


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: lebowski on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 18:50:15
to be fair, at least you went further than "shite" "shite" "shite"...


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: DMR on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 18:56:58
i tried to, to be brutally honest that would rather sum up what i made of it today.
being sober at football is shit, and i can't even blame any rash comments on drink either.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 19:18:39
fuck me even the adver get it nearer the mark.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: axs on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 19:24:37
Quote from: "Chubbs"
Oh do one, Out of Zaboub and JPM, Zaboub was far the better player, JPM did not seem interested at all untill maybe the last 15 minutes when him and ming played some nice passes, Zaboub did well today bar the odd poor touch, but then look at minges passing today


comminges' passing seems to be all or nothing, some absolute shite and then a sublime ball into the box.


Title: Re: ratings vs barnet
Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 19:27:20
Quote from: "DMR"
brez - shite. kicking poor, handling poor - he dropped a routine cross onto a strikers foot, and i could have saved that bloody shot that went in, had no pace on it at all - 3

minges - thought he was good in the second half, seems to have a great understand with JPM, defensively wnt AWOL a bit though - 6

aljofree - this guy is as ned flanders would say "a panicky pete," lashes at everything and it was good to see vincent give him some verbals in the first half for not communicating - 4
ifil - worst performance of the season, what a soft goal - 5

vincent - the best i've seen him play at full back. vocal too, should be the skipper- 7

jpm - i still think he's lazy but a couple of killer passes, which i suppose is what he's all about. his first touch is disgraceful though - 6

peacock - defensively... solid. progressively... fucking terrible. similar to sturrock, in that he works his nuts off but is a bit shite - 4

easton - a proper battler, probably either him or vincent for motm - 7

zaboub - i'll refrain from passing comment as i'd really go off on one - 1

sturrock - see peacock really, still got his goal which he certainly deserved over paynter - 5

paynter - gash - 4

byrne/williams - of it's abundantly clear things aren't working change it ffs! left it too late to bring roberts on seeing as zaboub was having the proverbial 'mare.


Guessing you didn't actually go then ...

Brez's handling is shit for dropping one catch which he got at the second attempt is it.......I would like see you save their goal I don't think any pro keeper would yet alone a supporter.
What makes me laugh though is JPM as one of your better performers today when he did absolutely nothing today.
As for Peacock he ran his socks off as usual and did his job but without any options upfront today things got bogged down in midfield.

What today did prove is that it is a good job Williams & Byrne won't be getting the job permanently it appears.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 19:34:50
brez - 5 - didn't really have a lot to do, but his positioning was doubtful for their goal

comminguess - 7 - probably our best player. got forward well and solid defensivly

aljofree - 5 - tries to do too much. his partnership with ifil isn't the greatest, and didn't have his best game today

ifil - 5 - worst game of the season

vincenté - 6 -  got forward well, but gave the ball away quite frequently. looked steady defensively

Mcgovern - 6 - did ok. didnt get too much of the ball, but some good balls in mixed with some gash, ie his first touch that went out for a goal kick

easton - 6 - i didn't think either center mid did brilliant today. they looked lost at times, and if we were serios about sitting back on the lead they were playing far too far up the pitch. did ok with the ball though

peacock - 6 - a lá easton

zaboob - 3 - feck off. "oh non, i hav lost zee ball, quick grab moi leg and roll on la floor" his crossing was woefull today, didn't track back, lost the ball to easily, never beat the defender.

paynter - 5 - his confidence looked shattered. really should of scored that header in the first half

sturrock - 6 - did good today, ran around and caused trouble. again though, missed an easy chance. unlucky to be taken off though


Title: Re: ratings vs barnet
Post by: DMR on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 19:49:24
Quote from: "glos_robin"


Guessing you didn't actually go then ...

Brez's handling is shit for dropping one catch which he got at the second attempt is it.......I would like see you save their goal I don't think any pro keeper would yet alone a supporter.
What makes me laugh though is JPM as one of your better performers today when he did absolutely nothing today.
As for Peacock he ran his socks off as usual and did his job but without any options upfront today things got bogged down in midfield.

What today did prove is that it is a good job Williams & Byrne won't be getting the job permanently it appears.


You've hilighted what I said about Peacock and rehashed it in another way so not sure what you mean there.

Sorry but a keeper of Brez's standard should not get beaten near-post side unless the striker has absolutely battered it.

Oh and presumably you didn't go either. Unless JPM's absolutely nothing takes into account a bloody excellent through ball that made our goal, a quality pass that meant we scored from that attack. Just like the ones Sofi put in... oh wait...


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Bushey Boy on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:32:56
Quote from: "lebowski"
some of the comments after each player are the most wide-of-the-mark things i have ever seen on this forum.

and that is really saying something.

give yourself a clap.


Agreed, Dave I will buy you beer in the future if being sober sees the game like that


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:35:28
here's a shock dave...i disagree  :D

Brezovan - solid, couldn't see the goal properly from the Town End but he was his reliable self 7

Comminges - decent defensively, good going forward, created the goal with another excellent piece of play 6

Ifil - nothing needs to be said, does it? 7

Aljofree - as above, solid as ever. 7
(really disagree about "panicky pete", he's got a clever footballing brain and knows when to get rid of it and when he's got time to use the ball properly)

Vincent - never been a fan but I can't deny his importance to the side, absolutely fantastic and great to see him bomb forward so much 8

McGovern - needs to take on players more often, seems reluctant to run at players sometimes and can be lazy and lacklustre but significantly contributed to the goal 6

Easton - incredible workrate and engine but didn't get into the game as much today 6

Peacock - it's difficult to think he was ever a forward, gives 100% and wins the ball in midfield 7

Zaaboub - I don't get it? I thought he worked hard and provided some good passes and crosses today, quite inconsistent over the 90 minutes(ish) but don't think he deserves the stick he gets. 6

Paynter - how did he score a hattrick? I can't recall a single chance all game 5

Sturrock - at least he tries... 5


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:46:38
agree with nearly everything sonic said except about zaboob.and no player deserves anything higher than a 7 imo


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: fatbury on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:49:45
Easton Sturrock Paynter McGovern were nothing short of pathetic ... playing with 4 men down makes it difficult

Pook has to start next time!


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:51:51
easton pathetic?er no!for someone who raves about pook,have a word fella.easton does everything pook does and more, week in week out.
and mogovern although not putting his foot in enough and lacking a bit of effort, created our goal with a pin point pass to comminges.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:52:40
vincent was superb though, never seen him play like that


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:53:36
Quote from: "SY"
vincent was superb though, never seen him play like that

he was equally good if not better vs swansea imo.did have a very decent game today mind


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:56:39
he did well today, but he has played better. gave the ball away a little to frequently


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: mattboyslim on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:57:13
Vincent only just got forward later in the game, there was times when Zaboub got slated, but I'm sure if nicho had been playing he'd bomb on and give sofi the option.  Vincent is a better overall player and defender, but probably due to his 'veteran' status he can't generally overlap as much as nicho does.  That said when he gets forward Vincent looks handy, and had as good a game as anyone today.

As for Easton, quiet by his standards, but his best games are when you ahrdly notice him, unspectacular but does all teh important jobs well, allowing others to do the fancy stuff.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 20:58:13
Quote from: "STFC dave"
he did well today, but he has played better. gave the ball away a little to frequently

and this is where zaboob can take some blame.wasn't an outlet often enough.therefor forced vincent to take other options.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Chubbs on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:09:27
FFS, Lay off sofi and sturrock, yes they are fustrating at times, and i understand why people dont rate them but when they have a a good game why cant people give it recognition, instead of "he's shit, so whatever he does today he's still gonna be shit.

Sturrock scored our goal today FFS, and zaaboub, for the person who says he didint beat a defender today, were you even watching?


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:10:53
jp really annoyed me. he seems to enjoy making runs behind opposing players. not in any way where the ball could end up with him. so many times a game i see him hiding behind an impossible angle that it's becoming embarrassing

zaboub also massively annoys me. the first two things he did at bournemouth were to get two good whiped balls into the box without trying to get to the byline. why can he not mix it up a bit and not walk down into a blind alley where he's got no option or run up to cross it.

why why why?


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:23:14
Quote from: "Chubbs"
FFS, Lay off sofi and sturrock, yes they are fustrating at times, and i understand why people dont rate them but when they have a a good game why cant people give it recognition, instead of "he's shit, so whatever he does today he's still gonna be shit.

Sturrock scored our goal today FFS, and zaaboub, for the person who says he didint beat a defender today, were you even watching?


i really dont understand how anyone can say zaboub had a good game today. couldn't cross, couldn't beat his man, didn't track back and hid away from getting the ball at times


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:25:07
but he did beat his man, cross and tracked back


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:28:44
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but he did beat his man


once or twice. more often than not he just ran into him and fell down clutching his leg trying to get a free kick

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cross


he did, but none of them were any good. our best crosser today was probably vincent


Quote

tracked back


i'll admit he may well od done that bit for the most part, it was just one moment stuck in my mind when he just stood there as their right back ran past him, leaving vincent against two men


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:30:18
Vincent is a centre back and not a left back


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: glos_robin on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:38:25
Didn't Zaaboub also put in 2 great crosses from free kicks which we should of scored from and was denied a goal by a great save from their keeper. If our strikers had managed to convert those crosses and their keeper hadn't pulled off that save would people still slag him off for playing his part in 3 goals......... I some how doubt it.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:42:31
Quote from: "Si Pie"
Vincent is a centre back and not a left back

his last two performances say otherwise.
i think he's decent in either postion


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:47:31
I don't think Vincent was special today. He was our best defender, but we need to assess what we want from our full backs because the styles of Vincent and the Minge are so different it causes a massive imbalance in our team.

HOOF!


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:49:30
i've been pretty impressed with vincents passing in the last two games.the hoof today would have been lass frequent if zaboob hugged the touchline a bit more


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:52:16
I think it would have been far less frequent if JP and the Minge had hugged the touchline more. We focussed too much down the left side for large parts of the game and the hoofing occurred because Vincent was closed down/marked out too easily. That said, the hoof down the line is his favourite pass.

Zaaboub hugged the touchline more than JP did today, yet the Minge didn't hoof nearly as much.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, January 5, 2008, 21:52:42
Actually the Minge wasn't too bad at getting wide, mainly JP


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 17:13:21
Brez was alright today

The defence were collectively poor. Ifil was immense for the mmost part but some dodgy passing and a few slips of concentration let him down and cost us dearly.

The midfield was weak and seemed none too fussed about preventing Barnet attacks. JPM needs to get wide more and look for the ball, but I thought Sofi did ok going forward.

Paynter did nothing but win headers which went straight to defenders. As for Sturrock, who I have stuck up for in the past, he really pissed me off today. Constantly calling for the ball when stood offside, rarely provided an option for the midfielders and to be honest I was actually annoyed it was him who scored. Something I've never felt about anybody before.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: axs on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 17:16:45
Quote from: "reeves4england"
Brez was alright today

The defence were collectively poor. Ifil was immense for the mmost part but some dodgy passing and a few slips of concentration let him down and cost us dearly.

The midfield was weak and seemed none too fussed about preventing Barnet attacks. JPM needs to get wide more and look for the ball, but I thought Sofi did ok going forward.

Paynter did nothing but win headers which went straight to defenders. As for Sturrock, who I have stuck up for in the past, he really pissed me off today. Constantly calling for the ball when stood offside, rarely provided an option for the midfielders and to be honest I was actually annoyed it was him who scored. Something I've never felt about anybody before.


i've just remembered where i know your avatar from - it's the album cover from athlete's vehicles and animals.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 18:25:37
IMHO taking Sturrock off cost us the game, Paynter was absolute dog shit and when BS went off he got worst. As soon as the ball came forward Paynter lost it was like taking candy off a baby, at least Sturrock held the ball up and made some usefull passes out wide. I really can not see Paynter getting a run in the team he is absolute gash.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Reeves for King on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 21:11:53
I thought Vinnie Vincent had a good game quite commanding apart from a couple of daft back-headers, Ifil played OK and Comminges was alright too. Zaaboub and Paynter came under the category of 'seriously fucking awful', the rest weren't much better and none of them shouldn't really get any more than a 5 considering we were playing a team who were utterly abject and should have brushed them aside no problem. Oh and their fans were ace; all their theme tune songs were a right laugh 8)


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Tails on Sunday, January 6, 2008, 21:34:01
McGoverns quality. Not good at taking players on but he works the wings well and his passes/crosses are awesome. No one better in our side. Him and the Minge are a really good pair down the right hand side.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: janaage on Monday, January 7, 2008, 09:20:52
Bloody hell funny how different people have differing views of the match.  I thought Sturrock had a good game on Saturday, Paynter worked hard but with little cutting edge.

The central midfield two didn't really get too involved as most of the play came down the sidelines through Vincent, Boooooob, Minges and JPM.  Didn't think Zaboub played well at all, but the full backs had a good solid game, especially Vincent, who in the first half ran the show.

Brez is getting better and better, okay so he dropped one cross but that was his only error, no chance with the goal.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: McLovin on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:07:57
Weird. I don't 100% agree with anyone.

I think Brez may have been out of position for the goal.
Vincent was great.
Ifil and Hasney both stood off the little fella and let him calmly collect goalkicks. What's that all about?
Bothe full-backs combined well with their wingers, just need some better quality crossing
The central midfielders were either both forward or both back, leaving huge gaps everywhere.
Sturrock was shite apart from holding the ball up on the wings/in the corners, Billy can't buy a goal.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: fatbury on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:11:43
was an appalling and casual performance on the whole

Brez did ok but maybe could have done better on the goal
Defence was fairly solid but at times casual with their passes forward
Midfield - Peacock worked his socks off whilst Easton failed to impress again - too slow! JP and Zaaboub failed to deliver enough quality or make enough runs
Attack - Sturrock too slow Paynter slow also but tried hard - quality of ball forward  was awful to be fair

Subs - Roberts - looked unfit
Kaid - looked unworthy bar one run when he should have passed


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: JPC82 on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:13:25
Quote from: "fatbury"
was an appalling and casual performance on the whole

Brez did ok but maybe could have done better on the goal
Defence was fairly solid but at times casual with their passes forward
Midfield - Peacock worked his socks off whilst Easton failed to impress again - too slow! JP and Zaaboub failed to deliver enough quality or make enough runs
Attack - Sturrock too slow Paynter slow also but tried hard - quality of ball forward  was awful to be fair

Subs - Roberts - looked unfit
Kaid - looked unworthy bar one run when he should have passed


oh fuck off u twat


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: McLovin on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:19:33
Hehehe, Easton is too slow(!) Mr Fatbury obviously likes Peacocks 'Lead Boots' routine...


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: fatbury on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:52:33
Peacock gives 100 percent ... but youve made my point ... together Peacock and Easton are too similar .. Peacock and Pook is a better combo - I personally dont and never have rated Easton


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: JPC82 on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:53:39
pook over easton? please please tell me ur on a wind up


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:54:26
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  you twat.

Pook does exactly what Easton does but to a lower standard. You really are quite strange


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: fatbury on Monday, January 7, 2008, 10:58:32
no he doesnt ... Pook has more vision in his passing -- is stronger in the tackle - is about 8 years youngers and is quicker with more energy. Pook over Easton every time for me!


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, January 7, 2008, 11:03:03
Deary me. You are blinded by your man - lust for pook I'm afraid.

To be fair I dont think Easton has been as good as some others (ie nowhere near player of the season so far)

Whilst Easton is no Hoddle (or even Paul Evans)in terms of passing I dont think that anybody is going to agree that pook has a better range of passing.  Unless by better range you mean the patented pook over the shoulder hack to no-one


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: pauld on Monday, January 7, 2008, 11:09:19
Quote from: "fatbury"
no he doesnt ... Pook has more vision in his passing
:shock:


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: janaage on Monday, January 7, 2008, 11:09:59
Where is Paul Evans at the moment?  Still injured somewhere in the yorkshire dales?


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, January 7, 2008, 12:37:09
bizarre.

easton is twice the player pook is.


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: mrOG on Monday, January 7, 2008, 13:36:38
I thought that we were far too much on the left side (think Brez favours the rollout on that side, as Minge was in lots of space Saturday and still did not get the quick throw)

McGovern needs to get up the line a bit further on occasions, so that we offer something different.  Seems to always hang around by the halfway line and fills the space that Minge has to run into.

Zaboob got worse as the game went on, but the switch of sides seemed to suit him.

Paynter and Sturrock got stuck in, but often the quality of the ball to them was lacking.  Has anyone in the team actually grasped that Sturrock is shit in the air and prefers playing the channels?

After seeing the goal on MOTD, either Jerel or Hasney should have closed down the small lad quicker (even though they commited the Blackburn error from a couple of weeks ago and let the ball bounce..)

Pook better than Easton  :shock:   Surely someone needs to pop down to Specsavers - they have a sale on now....


Title: ratings vs barnet
Post by: Arriba on Monday, January 7, 2008, 14:17:25
fatbury.i have to say your posts today are some of the most ridiculous tosh thats ever been on this forum.
how can you be so wrong about so much?