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Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: WorcesterRed on Friday, December 21, 2007, 07:48:21
.....but this is a genuine question rather than me trying to put a dampener on things......

From what I see, all that this conditional agreement does is put us in the same position as the BEST deal i.e. it could still fail?

Obviously great that immediate debts will be cleared (and the club still exists!) but I assume that there is still the chance that everything could go tits up in January and the sale of players and the whim of a big FA Cup tie could still be the intention in the back of certain people's minds.

Or not?


Title: Re: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, December 21, 2007, 07:51:21
Quote from: "WorcesterRed"
.....but this is a genuine question rather than me trying to put a dampener on things......

From what I see, all that this conditional agreement does is put us in the same position as the BEST deal i.e. it could still fail?

Obviously great that immediate debts will be cleared (and the club still exists!) but I assume that there is still the chance that everything could go tits up in January and the sale of players and the whim of a big FA Cup tie could still be the intention in the back of certain people's minds.

Or not?


The main difference is that Wills and Diamandis are now out of the question altogether.


Title: Re: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, December 21, 2007, 07:52:48
Quote from: "WorcesterRed"
.....but this is a genuine question rather than me trying to put a dampener on things......

From what I see, all that this conditional agreement does is put us in the same position as the BEST deal i.e. it could still fail?

Obviously great that immediate debts will be cleared (and the club still exists!) but I assume that there is still the chance that everything could go tits up in January and the sale of players and the whim of a big FA Cup tie could still be the intention in the back of certain people's minds.

Or not?


   I tried to point out last night, that as long as the vendors have to do something, then there's no real cause for celebration.  It still leaves plenty of scope for a Brady/Best scenario both times the Wills/ Diamandis hung around..

  I'm not sure whether to still boycott?


Title: Re: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: WorcesterRed on Friday, December 21, 2007, 07:54:04
Quote from: "BANGKOK RED"
Quote from: "WorcesterRed"
.....but this is a genuine question rather than me trying to put a dampener on things......

From what I see, all that this conditional agreement does is put us in the same position as the BEST deal i.e. it could still fail?

Obviously great that immediate debts will be cleared (and the club still exists!) but I assume that there is still the chance that everything could go tits up in January and the sale of players and the whim of a big FA Cup tie could still be the intention in the back of certain people's minds.

Or not?


The main difference is that Wills and Diamandis are now out of the question altogether.


....according to my reading, the Wills retain 23% though?


Title: Re: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: WorcesterRed on Friday, December 21, 2007, 07:56:50
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "WorcesterRed"
.....but this is a genuine question rather than me trying to put a dampener on things......

From what I see, all that this conditional agreement does is put us in the same position as the BEST deal i.e. it could still fail?

Obviously great that immediate debts will be cleared (and the club still exists!) but I assume that there is still the chance that everything could go tits up in January and the sale of players and the whim of a big FA Cup tie could still be the intention in the back of certain people's minds.

Or not?


  I tried to point out last night, that as long as the vendors have to do something, then there's no real cause for celebration.  It still leaves plenty of scope for a Brady/Best scenario both times the Wills/ Diamandis hung around..
  I'm not sure whether to still boycott?

My point entirely...this is a 'promise to buy' subject to certain conditions and Plan Z may still be in the back of some twat's mind.


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, December 21, 2007, 07:58:03
I would say is it more secure than  the BEST deal as the points to be satisfied are not to do with the owners asking for more money for the club (as I believe happened to BEST)


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, December 21, 2007, 08:05:24
Trying to remain optimistic here, yes it's a 'promise to buy', but the club have also entered into a contract to sell so there is now some onus on them to get the deal done.


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 21, 2007, 08:26:20
Also who owns the mysterious 2%?


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: herthab on Friday, December 21, 2007, 08:27:39
Isn't that made up pf small shareholders?

I own one whole share :D


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: lebowski on Friday, December 21, 2007, 08:32:33
is willie carson a small shareholder?


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Friday, December 21, 2007, 08:39:44
Quote from: "lebowski"
is willie carson a small shareholder?


He is quite small, yes!


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 21, 2007, 08:52:38
Quote from: "herthab"
Isn't that made up pf small shareholders?

I own one whole share :D


Me too!  :D


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: janaage on Friday, December 21, 2007, 08:58:28
Well Reg I for one won't be returning until January, I will wait and see how this develops until we can truely celebrate.

Great that it's going in the right direction, but Michael Knighton was ball juggling on the Man Utd picture a few years back, after he had "agreed" to buy the club.

Until this is 100% signed sealed and delivered I will not be going.


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: REDBUCK on Friday, December 21, 2007, 09:07:20
I don't think we are out of the woods yet, still a couple of hurdles to get over.  St mowden's agreement is worrying me the most.

With the present lot still involved and crucial decisions still to be made, I'm holding off on any celebrations.

I also think that there will be 6 months work to find all the other debts lurking about even after they have taken over


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: sheepshagger on Friday, December 21, 2007, 09:31:04
fuck me some people are never happy !!!

Well I wont be going until someone from the club personally licks my bollocks and presents me with a signed shirt...........

I'm sorry but there is now absolutely NO excuse for not going tomorrow - boycott my arse !

Sorry - and obviously that is only a personal feeling - and I am going to be in the Merlin nice and early to get well and truley fucko'd !!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS  :D  :D  :D


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Friday, December 21, 2007, 09:35:48
Quote

Well I wont be going until someone from the club personally licks my bollocks and presents me with a signed shirt...........


Well I knew you had a thing for Sandy Gray but I didn't know it was that bad...... :D


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, December 21, 2007, 09:51:29
so with this conditional agreement signed Diamandis/Wills can't alter anything?

The only thing which happens now is the creditors/Mowdem have to agree it and then it's officially sold?

is that correct or am i pissing in the wrong direction.


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, December 21, 2007, 09:55:37
My understanding is that the terms of the contract are agreed (i.e. no more last minute requests for more money), it's just that these specific conditions relating to St Modwen and HMRC need to be sorted before the deal can be fully complete.


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: figgis on Friday, December 21, 2007, 09:56:14
maybe it could take that long to get payments to the tax man etc many things will slow down over xmas. st mowden not so sure about them but they sound as if it wont be difficult to negotiate with them. the positive thing is maybe the transfer embargo will be lifted and they are putting in their own staff.


Title: Excuse my naivety......
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, December 21, 2007, 11:12:07
Quote from: "sheepshagger"
fuck me some people are never happy !!!

Well I wont be going until someone from the club personally licks my bollocks and presents me with a signed shirt...........

I'm sorry but there is now absolutely NO excuse for not going tomorrow - boycott my arse !

Sorry - and obviously that is only a personal feeling - and I am going to be in the Merlin nice and early to get well and truley fucko'd !!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS  :D  :D  :D


See you in there mate