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if the club we all love ended wolud you support afc swindon?

I'd rather it was called something else, and am not sure if I would be that interested to be honest....I'd have to give it a go and decide if it was worth it

i've missed die from the vquestion shit

no.

i'd save money and get cheap flights out to madrid for games here and there

Yes i would support a new club if it was created.

Deffinitly.

I think it would be fun.

I would, but STFC will, in all likelihood, always exist on some level.

If we were liquidated, as i understand it, the club would still exist, all be it without league status and i suspect be at around Supermarine's level. That's what someone said anyway.

I dont think I could watch a 'new' Swindon - been supporting the current/old one for so long. What I'm trying to say it just wouldn't be the same for me, I would just become an armchair premiership footie fan.

The main problem would be the ground......the CG would be a no no because of rent.

    So it would probabaly have to be a groundshare with Supermarine.

Not sure I would, probably Ciren Town for me.

Not sure... I would probably lose interest. Non league football doesn't really appeal to me. I would imagine a few would go watch Supermarine as they are only 3 promotions off the FL

i was just thinking about that. it'd be weird watching a team that technically wasn't swindon in a totally different ground. it just wouldn't be right...

  I've given this a bit of thought over some time.....in fact it needn't be quite so bleak as first seems, insofar as we wouldn't be a professional club.  Back in the days of Justin Tomlinson :chunder: I quizzed him as to why the Cricket Club paid fuck all rent for a bigger site, whilst the FC paid sky high rent for a smaller site.  He informed it was because STFC was a business whereas the CC wasn't.

 In which case teh club could claim a similar situation as the CC and have its rent slashed....in fact as a club run by fans might be possible to get grants.

  Of course, this is fantasy, as SBC would immediately sense on opportunity to turf the FC out and sell the CG site, to make up the shortfall in rent.

if the club dies.it will be reborn like all the others who have gone bust have.i will support that club

Me too.

I think it would be pretty ace if we could be the plastic fans of non-league football.

In all honesty the idea of starting at the bottom and creating some new history and being part of it does appeal to me. We'd need decent crowds to make it work though.

the only problem is all the pro players would go and we'd have to get in some proper non league players. Who would be fucking shit and no better than some of the posters on here.

We wouldnt fly up the leagues and we'd be stuck watching some really really really shit football 364382374837498372 times worse that what we watch now.

ever the optimist dan  :D

It would be our shit football though.

It wouldnt be a case of flying through the leagues FM style,it would be stupid to think so.It'd be about building something that we could all be proud of.

Its not going to happen anyway.

where did you get those figures dv?
i reckon you must be the forum maths guru.
hows it going at your saturday side :soapy tit wank:
if you fancy a transfer give me a shout

It's all relative though Dan. If we got in the best of the pool of players available...

And the football currently at the CG is shit at best. It doesn't stop us all going to watch though.

realistic, as always.



yes, but the football we're playing now doesnt attract the fans. Attendences are decreasing and people moan about the standard of football and the players get booed off at half time if we're not winning.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be, in a lower league with worse players. Plus because we were once a league cup some of you guliable idiots would expect us to shoot straigh up the leagues and youd get pissed off when we didnt.

You'd probably get a game then Dan.  :D

Dan will you protest against the formation of a new club?  :D

nah, i think he was on about me.

we're fucking rubbish. I dunno if I explained but all the players have gone so we've started again from scratch playing whoever will turn up. We're lucky to get 12 players each week. At the moment its about putting a team out! hopefully we'll find some more players and improve the team... :|



doesnt stop us going, but it must stop some people. In our play off season we got crowds of 8,000 even after a pretty good start we struggle to break 6,500

sonic, which monkey out of planet of the apes is in your avatar?

no, id be all for it....

....however being an ex-league club (well technically we wouldnt be, but we'd all think we were, if that makes sense)

Most people would either be put off by the extremely shit standard of football and/or the over exaggerated expectations. Almost like now....but on a larger scale.

AFC Swindon wouldnt attract the usual 6000 and it wouldnt need to in the early days.If 1000 people watched a club at that level it would be a decent crowd and I think if they were doing well and if it had the right sort of publicity thats would soon grow.It would be about claiming your football club back.

It wouldn't be STFC either,it wouldnt have any League history it would be a new club all together.

i wouldnt want it to be called AFC either by the way.

Even if 1000 people came along it would be good. How many newly formed teams even get a couple of hundred spectators?

If I wanted to watch good football I would stay in the pub all weekend and watch the Prem games.

it's tom waits you heathen

you're right but i cant help think that people will expect us to bring in 5,000 fans every week and have the best players and fly up the leagues back to 'where we belong'



sadly, too many people take this option already.....

aldershot are aldershot.acrington stanley ditto.so why couldn't we do the same?
i reckon if done quick enough gates would be large

As we came through the leagues we would have games with Oxford City,Swindon Supermarine and of course Oxford utd.

It'd be ace :D

not forgetting close games against Cirencester United, Pewsey Vale, Purton & and the long distance away games like Corsham and Trowbridge.....

This sounds ace. I can't wait.

Our mascot can be called Grumpy Dan.

dancin' yeovil would be better...

I reckon even id make those away games :mrgreen:

Plus you can drink during the game at all these places I expect.

Its win win!

If the footies shit get pissed and get a Taxi home.

plus it'll cost under a £5 to get in......and we'd always have more away fans than home when we went away.

fuck it, dont wait for swindon to die....do it now.

TEF United!

I knew you'd see the light \  :D  /

\ :D /

TEF utd is born

How very depressing :(

bagsy manager....

would you do a sturrock and leave blueprint?

fb can play in goal, fred as sweeper...i can't be arsed to pick the rest of the team, that's your job gaffer.

yes, blueprint is just helping out a mate.

TEF United is the future of Swindonian Football

Sales and Marketing manager please? I could fill a few billboards.

I know someone who'd be the official photographer. Payment in beer required.

Are you going to rest them against the ropes around the ground, or ask the guy who goes round with the hat for money to carry them with him?

Shut it kill joy!

You'll be sorry when TEF utd win the Champions League in 2030

aren't you supposed to be rich or something? you can bank roll us

Question for you: Would Swindon ever reform in Swindon?

We talk about sides like Aldershot and Accrington coming back from the dead, but other sides like - Guildford City (ex top amateur side) have not reformed or played in their city for many a year. Slough Town ex Conference (and a town comparable to the size of Swindon) no longer has a ground and share in Windsor. Wokingham United just missed out on Conference football a couple of years ago have gone it looks forever, they could not gain planning permission for a new ground even though they had £1m in the bank.

Yes I am kill joy on this one, but if the worst happens to STFC you are very unlikely to reform in the borough of Swindon in my opinon.

and we could call our new stadium the Dell :P

  Not strictly true....Aldershot is now Aldershot Town....they make no claim to being the same side.

  Stanley disappeared for many years altogether....a new club bearing the Stanley name but playing at a different ground was formed....they seem happy enouigh to claim a continuity, but strictly speaking its a differnt club.

You seem to be taking this more seriiosly than I am.But in my opinion yes ,as ive said before it would be a much smaller scale but I see no reason why it couldnt.

should we still play in red though?

Yep deffo

But lets not be nicknamed the Robins cos thats a rubbish nickname

the moonrakers?

I reckon :beers:

i've always wondered why we don't use the moonrakers nickname. it's original and has an amusingly self-deprecating story behind it.

i'd like us to play in pink

I won't support TEF United.

Unless it is a team full of nude women, who have to play nude and against men due to a religious loop hole somewhere, who win by confusing their opponents with tit and fadge displays.

We'd sail up the leagues and be heavily supported by men all over the world.

The team won't enter via a tunnel but via a catwalk which goes through the middle of one of the stands and is raised about 1 metre above the seats.

You'll be allowed to buy a table, instead of a seat, and also be allowed to smoke, drink and throw money at the players in my stadium.

I'll speak to the banks on Monday.

Perhaps they don't even have to play football, and we could move the team inside so they can just serve drinks and light our fags?

I'm on to a fucking winner.

bagsy owning the right for developments....despite it being your idea and not owning any land...

 :D

It'll cost you a quid, and you can have a laugh spending it  :-))(

Pimping your wife for beer?! Like it.  :D

I thought it was a sound plan..... :beers:

scrap TEF united, could we be Sporting Club TEF?

we can play football in the winter and cricket in the summer. obviously it'd overlap a bit but if we could play at both county grounds we'd be onto a winner.

get a rugby club as well.....means the pitch will be in use more than just for footy match days...more money innit.

Tennis to....

fuck that, rugby's for poofs.

Can we can incorperate the Lawn Bowls as well?

its all cash innit.

but we cant plant any trees for Alan.....god rest his internet sole

fair enough reg.but aldershot play at the same ground in the same colours.
makes them the same club in my book.
dont know fuck all about acringtons history myself apart from the fact that they were a league club many moons ago.

useless fact for you.
around 89-91. myself and a few mates were going to go to ipswich away.this game got called off due to bad weather.(snow i think)
we ended up at aldershot vs maidstone to watch their fa cup tie.maidstone won but i cannot remember the score.both were league clubs that soon went out of business too as we all know.

I read something about Aldershot, where they said they wanted a new start so dropped the history....fair enough its their choice.

  Useless fact for you....I went to Aldershot in the early 80's for a Boxing Day fixture, it was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch.  So as to not completely waste my time, I did a walk just outside Newbury up to an Iron Age hillfort called Beacon Hill.   Stumbling about in the rain and gloom I discovered the grave of Lord Caernarvon, who was supposedly cursed by funding the discovery of Tutankaman's tomb, and being around the excavation....he died soon after.

 I've yet to find out why he ended up there, rather than consecrated ground.

my daughter is going to the tutankamun exibition in the new year with her school.
i'm well jealous.
i wanted to go as a parent helper but teachers from other classes are going the cunts

Fuck me, I knew there must have been better options than going on to Tottenham - West Ham that day.

   85th minute winner from Steve Perryman....I doin't suppose for a minute you'd have thought that Ardiles and Hoddle would be the next 2 managers of STFC....Mickey Hazard and Paul Allen would play for the Town and Tony Galvin would have been assistant manager.

 If I go somewhere, I always try and have a bit of a stumble round, or somewhere on the way.  Get to see bits of the country you'd otherwise wouldn't know existed.

Reg, the Rent on the CG is based on the clubs turnover, so it's quite possible a small sized non league club habitting the site could get a fair deal on the rent.  If you imagine we'd be playing in front of 500 hardy souls lets say, then you could reasonably expect 1/10th the rent we pay right now so about £20k a year.  That's less than a very small shop in town.

 Fair points, but it presumes SBC is a reasonable landlord....given that the lease as stands only has a short time to run, its more likely SBC would inssit this be honoured and use a failure to evict the club and sell off the land.

Expect SBC to use any failure, as reason to change the way the land is used. IMO there would be little sympathy towards providing a ground for an AFC Swindon as it would not be demonstrable as a "best value" use of such a large facility.

Plus SBC have never convinced me that they give a monkeys about being altruistic!