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I'm rapidly coming round to this prospect actually- I bet he wouldn't take any shit of them above.

Mad Dog for Swindon  8)

(I still feel a bit sick for saying that but I'll get there)

I'd rather eat my own feaces.

I'd rather drink a bottle of tippex and then eat Chubbs' faecal matter.

The more I read his comments the more I truly want Nijholt, I want someone who has a passion for the club.

And hes cheap!

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He said: "I have always said I would love to return to English football, especially Swindon Town, and that has not changed in fact the desire has probably grown stronger.

"Going back for that match in the summer was a brilliant occasion and just reminded me why I loved the place so much. The fans are great and the club deserves a good future.

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The Advertiser understands Nijholt would only be seeking a fraction of the £250,000-a-year salary afforded to Sturrock, an attractive prospect to a club in financial woes.

He added: "I think my football mentality actually suits the English game more than it does in Holland.

"The game is very competitive in England and I was like that as a player. I believe you need to battle but also play good football.

"My wife and young daughter Maxine loved Swindon before and I think we would all welcome a return.

"If Swindon are interested in me, I am interested in them."

Unquote.

We could do a lot worse.

He did amazingly well at Brentford, especially when you look at what they've done since he left. He also did a reasonable job at Franchise as far as I can tell and compensation would not be an issue.

I know a lot of people don't like him but why exactly? Is it because he rants and raves a bit on the touch line? Have I missed something? At the end of the day, if we're winning on the pitch I don't suppose anyone will care what he does.

Having said that, Nijholt would be my personal choice. I liked the idea last time around as well. We could do a lot worse than Allen though.

Which is of course MASSIVELY in Nijholt's favour!

Painfull as it is to agree with, I also think he would be a pretty good choice.
At least the team would be made to show some passion and fight for the shirt, no more half hearted displays from Roberts or Zaboub, no more backing off players in the mid field every body would be made to die for the club or sold off for players who will.

I think the fans worshipped him at Brentford didn't they? I don't know how popular he was at MK.

Nijholt over Allen every time.  I'd give Allen a bout 2 months if the takeover didn't happen before he'd be off.  He doesn't seem the sort to get cosy with bosses for the sake of it, a bit like Newell in that respect.

Nijholt has a good coaching record but would be a bit of a risk because he'd be putting his STFC past record on the line.

As much as it pains me to say it, Mad Dog has a pretty good record at this level and his teams are always difficult to beat.

I think that Mr Fitton will have a huge say in who he appoints (if indeed the takeover ever happens obviously but lets err on the side of optimism for a bit).

If Fitton interviews the candidates....he will pick someone who probably has experience as a manager..dealing with finances etc...rules out Taylor (who I still worship as a hero).

He will pick someone who probably wont cost an arm and a leg in salary......Allen or Cotterill?

Someone used to working to tight budgets as Fitton said he wants the club run like a business....surely the only candidate so far that fulfills all the above is Nijhot.

Appointing an ex fans favourite and ex player would help win the fans over to his side too possibly?

Though this is all hypothetical based on if the takeover does not fail...I feel it may be the way it proceeds.

Even though I do not feel Nijholt is the best available manager I think he is the leading candidate so far mentioned.

But it can't go on for two more months can it? If it did, we'd be playing next seaon in the Cherry Red Records Hellenic League Division 3 wouldn't we?

I know what you mean, I thinking the same yesterday. For sure he wouldn't have the lack of effort from our players.

I think hed be ok .... as long as we get rid of the board!

For me it has to be Martin Allen.  He's got the experience and obviously knows football at our level.  

Why don't people like him?   I don't get it!    He may not be the most loyal manager, but as we all know, who is at our level of football.  

Ex-swindon legends don't neccessarily make good managers.  We need experience and a proven track record.

WDP reckons we would have compensation money available if Fitton takes over

I'm warming to the idea I'll be honest.

As long as he makes an effort with us the fans. You know, when we've been beat away from home, he pushes the players back onto the pitch to clap us.

Then surely Allen is counted out then.

He has never even won promotion at any club he has been with...walked out on 3 of them after trouble with the boards...

Actually been a manager for less time overall than Nijholt, he won promotion as an assistant at reading but then Nijholt got to a Eufa cup semi final with Alkmaar.

He's a better choice than Shaun Taylor or Luc Nijholt IMO.

But a worse choice than Cotterill. After all, he was the only manager of a team relegated from League One to League Two the season before last not to get them straight back up last season. Despite having the biggest budget.

True. I don't know, I just like idea of everyone hating us.  :D

You wanna pop onto the Poxford web site for sa bit then mate!  :soapy tit wank:

Luc Nijholt all the way, hopefully he'll be nearly as good as Iffy

Then surely Allen is counted out then.

He has never even won promotion at any club he has been with...walked out on 3 of them after trouble with the boards...

Actually been a manager for less time overall than Nijholt, he won promotion as an assistant at reading but then Nijholt got to a Eufa cup semi final with Alkmaar.[/quote]


Good point, well made.  

Allen's got to the play offs twice though and was quality at Brentford with very little money.   Hopefully with Fitton on board we'd be more stable financially so would give him less reason to won't to go.   He's proven in England in my opinion.  

I still think Nijholt is a risk and Allen's are no. 1 choice.  

I'm just praying we'll have a team for someone to manage!  [/quote]

Then surely Allen is counted out then.

He has never even won promotion at any club he has been with...walked out on 3 of them after trouble with the boards...

Actually been a manager for less time overall than Nijholt, he won promotion as an assistant at reading but then Nijholt got to a Eufa cup semi final with Alkmaar.[/quote]


Good point, well made.  

Allen's got to the play offs twice though and was quality at Brentford with very little money.   Hopefully with Fitton on board we'd be more stable financially so would give him less reason to won't to go.   He's proven in England in my opinion.  

I still think Nijholt is a risk and Allen's are no. 1 choice.  

I'm just praying we'll still have a team for someone to manage!  [/quote]

Take away the fact that Nijholt played for us. If some other bloke who currently manages in the 2nd tier of Dutch football expressed an interest would anyone want him?

Allen is a disloyal, arrogant cunt whose teams play shite football.

Shaun Taylor has no experience.

|If these are the only three that are interested I'm very underwhelmed..........

I agree Steve the only reason I see Nojholt as a possiblt replacement is because of his playing for Swindon, never say die mentality and a fair amount of coaching/management experience...but the calibre of the applicants leave a huge amount to be desired...but to be honest who else would want to come to a club in our predicament I guess?

Allens record is no different to Andy kings really .

Is that positive or negative macca?  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I'm sorry but forget Nijholt played for us, Brian Kilcline also played for us (well had a go) would you want him as manager?

Nijholt has coaching experience yes, but where? The Dutch 2nd division FFS!

He's a cunt is Martin Alllen but he's managed in England and he's passionate.

There will be plenty of others who are interested but might take a little time to make a move or be approached. These are just the desperate ones who spend all day watching Sky Sports News with a freshly typed CV always at the ready...

Nijholt has also been coach at one of hollands top teams, who got to the final of the uefa cup and ran one of the countries best youth academies.

How's Nijholt doing this season?

If I remember rightly, didn't Nijholt used to turn up to training in a Porsche 911? I always remember people saying he didn't need to work cos he was minted.

He was a fucking hard bastard too. Legs like tree trunks.

midtable with a team whos ground capacity is less than 4000 and the population fo the entire area is 28,000! Not bad if you ask me!

What would be better was a combination of all 3 men!

Nijholt and taylor cos they used to play for us, Taylor for his leadership, Nijholt for being hard and probably strict on his player, Allen cos hes a cunt and everyone would hate us!

which is actually a higher league than we're in now, if you want to pick holes! the standard is probably very similar.

i think nijholt would bring a new style to the club and would be a breath of fresh air after a succession of stuffy old british managers ...i wonder whether he'd be willing to have taylor as his assistant? that would be my ideal management structure.

i intensely dislike martin allen. he's a whinging, moaning arrogant cunt who has achieved very little. i honestly don't think i could stomach support a swindon side managed by him.

To get this in perspective..............

The current leaders of the Dutch 2nd division are averaging gates of 6000.

And his team isn't mid-table, it's currently 16th....................

..............out of 20.

they finished midtable (10th) last season

English football is widely regarded as the best league in the world.

Even our 3rd and 4th division games can regularly draw crowds of 8,000 +.

The standard of football is also high. I wouldn't mind betting that a Dutch 2nd division club would struggle in the football league. Our game is very physical.

I want a manager with some experience of managing in England, Cotterill would be ok.

Tbh Macca, whoever we get in I'll get behind...............

Even that cunt Allen.

I have to agree Steve, Swindon are my team...no matter who is in charge, I may not be behind the manager 100% but I ALWAYS WILL BE the team.

As long as we have a team to support I will support them.

widely regard by english people. oh...

i don't think you can judge quality, success or strength of a side on the size of crowds. oxford still get 4,000 odd ffs!

Martin Allen clearly is going to split the fan base.

Assuming the takeover takes place (touch wood ,etc) id like to see us have a manager that everyone can get behind from day one.Call me niave but I have a vision of the Board ,Team and fans all working together and being as one.I see the "busy bodies" change their focus into helping the club fill the exec room and empty advertising hoarding.Id like to see a sense of community return to the club thats why the appointment of the next manager is so crucial and not just for footballing reasons

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Quality mate !

Ever thought of politics ?

You reminded me of Martin Luther King with that post Yeovil!

'I HAve A Dream' :D

Tear jerking post yeovil

Cant say I like Allen - in fact the guys a cunt , but look at whats happened to Brentford since he left as an idea of what he can achieve

As for the fact he 'failed' at Franchise - who cares, technically Sturrock with 2 sackings on his cv failed, and as for the disloyal bit, Im afraid its a fact of football as proved by Luggy, loyalty went years ago.

Just because a guy is likely to be attracting interest from bigger clubs should not be a reason to appoint an ex swindon player - you can bet if Nijholt etc do well they wont say 'well I was a player at Swindon so best stay'

In any case until Fitton is in this is all academic , we could have Jose Mourinho in charge and our board will still do their best to mess it up

Shall I apply for the job :mrgreen:

will they let you sit in the arkells then?

no i refuse to back you

I'd take allen or Nijholt. I hate Allen, but only because he's been quite successful for clubs against us. He's passionate, successful and would make us hard to beat. Nijholt? Well he was a favourite, is cheap and would be popular, but at this level more of a gamble.

What we can't do is go gamble on a chalky/shaun taylor type scenario...

Cotterill would also be good - at least we have options, assuming the takeover goes through of course.

Im sorry im getting pissed off with this Allen is successful bullshit . He reached the play offs for fucksake.

Sturrock was successful

I agree with Yeovil, if Fitton does come in this could be the best chance to unite everyone around the club for the first time in, um, ages.

Andy King was successful  :mrgreen:

I wasn't judging quality on size of crowds. I do know that the Football League is a better standard than the Dutch league though.

People who point to Brentford as an argument for Allen should also consider that he left when they realised they were heading for financial meltdown unless they trimmed back the costs.  The need to radically cut back, which began just before he left, is the reason they are where they are now.  It's therefore tough to judge Allen's influence at the club because everyone since has not had the same backing.

Nijholt has coached at almost the highest level, his current job is in charge of the team.  He also gets very good reviews from Holland.  personally he wouldn;t be my choice as next Swindon Manager if we had a free reign, but if we only had the 3 listed to choose from it would have to be him.

If the takeover goes through this ais a pivotal time for STFC and we HAVE to appoint the right man.

I was up for Nijholt last time around, but our expectations have risen since then - people can see how good the squad they'll inherit is. No worldbeaters, but more than competent. He'd be a step into the unknown.
same goes for Shaun taylor - bt it would be good if we can accomodate him somehow. If Byrne does leave, Shaun has the experience at youth level with City - he should be the top candidate for that job.

Allen would probably do the job - but I can't stand the little runt and it's about time STFC was one big happy family. No thanks.

Lead cnotenders for me have to be Martin Ling first - good attacking football, on a shoestring, young but not inexperienced and seems to still like the club.

Newell - self-explanatory really. The women won't like it, and may riase a few eyebrows, but if it wasn't for his big mouth, he'd be in a job right now. Not on the same plain as Allen when is comes to the tosser-stakes.

Coterill - decent lower league manager, links to the area.

One I've always liked the idea of, and thjis is a bit from the leftfield, is Alex Inglethorpe. Ex-Exeter manager - now at Spurs. Spurs have been filtering him through the levels after taking him from Exeter having seen how competent he was there - young and articulate and clearly well-respected by those in the know...like Damien Comolli. With Ramos there now and a new structure in place, he might have one eye on getting a job of his own after all. Worth a phone call.

I go if he comes

great post. we can but hope

We'll cope I'm sure.

According to a mate who was at the Brentford Luton game on Tuesday, the fans were continually chanting for Martin Allen, despite him walking out when he knew things were going tits, he is still considered a god there.
Grade A cunt for sure, but a motivator who brings the best out of his players COULD be just what's needed. If you also consider Ince is about to get the Derby job of the back of what Allen did at Dons, then maybe just maybe.....actually nah, fuck him! Cotterill for me.

mad dog would win fans over here

Errrrrr Paul Jewell is Derby's new manager :D

I mean't WAS not is.....honestly!  :oops:

i think yeovil is spot on, allen would split the fans big time - is it worth it?

Allen – I hate the bloke, he’s always been weird with STFC, he’s never even won promotion.. A swaggering talentless cockney who gets by on mouthing off and bullying rather than achieving results. No thanks.


Cotterill is a good coach, knows the lower leagues and has always worked on a limited budget, he’s a decent bloke and is a local lad (Gloucestershire) and wouldn’t demand sky high wages. Surely the number one choice.

I don't want someone who's "good in the lower leagues"!  It was partly why I was a bit uncomfortable with Sturrock.

I'm fucking sick of thinking that all the club can aspire to is a journeyman manager who'll put together a journeyman team that will play fucking boring football that might drag us into the fucking Division 3 playoffs.  :evil:

I want the same feeling I had when we appointed Macari and Ossie and Hoddle.

I know that the only fucking hope we've got of getting someone like that is that the takeover goes through, but the only fucking hope we've got of surviving at all is the takeover going through.

So for me, shelve the whole idea of recruiting anyone for the time being, wait for Fitton to get his feet under the desk, sort out the outstanding financial mess, and then go out and show a bit more ambition in looking for a manager.

In those circumstances I think we stand a chance of getting someone who ticks a few of the requirement boxes. Those being:

Someone who will get the fans excited again
Someone with a dedication to playing exciting attacking passing football
Someone with a serious attitude to the technical aspects of coaching

The only man I can think of that does it is Lingy.

With Fitton in charge and maybe a budget to spend in the January window there might be chance.

But fuck me I don't think I can be bothered to care anymore if we hand out a three year contract to the likes of Cotterill or Allen or worse Taylor or Chalkie just to aviod any compensation payment.

So all you want is a manager who will send us flying back up though the leagues whilst playing sexy football eh Lumps.

As for good in the lower leagues, what leagues has Ling got expeirence of again? And where has coterill been for the last 2/3 years? your entite post contradicts itself mate.

No it doesn't.

Ling isn't being talked up because "he's good in the lower leagues".

I know he's been there and done that, but that's a bonus.

I know I want a lot but I'm just sick of us being a piddling lower league team. That's what we were when I started watching us and it's just as shit now.

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So why is Ling being talked up?  There was me thinking it was because he had done well in the 2 bottom divisions and used to play for us?

Whoops triple post. Effective though.  :D

He'd bring that mug Adrian Twitbread with him-one of the worst players ever to don the famous red shirt!

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ha

A old friend of mine is use to play football with him (before he went to Watford) and says he's a top bloke.  Whenever they meet Alex always spends the time speaking about what my mate's up too, rather than about his exploits in football.

Has sod all to do with anything, but I did chant 'Fetcham reject' at him when Orient played Kingstonian in the cup...and 'Swindon reject' at Ling, he looked at me and smiled, so I smiled back.  Was bloody hungover that day.

I am beginning to think this post is a little irrelevant...

From my occasional Exeter watching (wasn't as often as it could have been), I think I remember Inglethorpe getting Exeter to play some pretty good football for a conference side. Even if it was as the cost of them not doing slightly better in the league.

There's a good chance I'm remembering wrong though. I wasn't watching much football at the time and to be honest I spent a good few years pretty pissed.

Wouldn't say no to Inglethorpe, doesn't seem likely though.

I wonder what Steve Flack is up to, we could always offer him his first managerial position.

Looks like hes decided to make it well known hes after the post then!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/7120718.stm

allen :fu:

I bet McGovern is shitting himself at the prospect!

Adie Whitbread was at todays game.

Anyone see allen at the game today?

Don't want that scum Allen at this club, shit manager who's never done anything at any club and is an arrogant cunt.

Yeah-he came on for Roberts!

Boom Boom!! :D