Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Arriba on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:01:57 all those that are slating the bloke take a deep breath and think for a minute.
any of us would,in his position do what he is gonna do. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: janaage on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:05:27 I agree arriba, if he decides to go I won't be surprised in the least. Nor will I consider him a judas, a c*nt, or anything negative like that.
Yet again we have been let down by certain people running the club. I just wonder how players like Adams, Zaboub, Sturrock, Easton and others will feel after being lured here by PS and now left to their own devices. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Arriba on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:07:35 thats football jan people come and go.
and for this the board cannot be blamed either imo Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:08:29 It's a bit of a coincidence that Sturrock has whined a lot about the situation here recently.
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: janaage on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:09:23 Not so sure on that Arriba, this takeover malarchy has been rumbling on for too long. This all should have been sorted out, the BEST takeover must have infuriated Sturrock, having to play or temporarily sign these Best players, not very traditional for PS.
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: pumbaa on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:10:16 Bollocks.
And why is this in the match day section???? Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Arriba on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:11:39 any other club then maybe?but not plymouth.as soon as holloway left the writing was on the wall.
makes no difference who runs stfc, its just to good for him to turn down Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:11:41 I wouldn't blame Sturrock if he went. Still not 100% sure he will although it does look quite likely :(
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: janaage on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:11:56 Because it's Sunday, and we can!!! Stop splitting hairs.
Least arriba hasn't posted something crazy like "I want Martin Allen in charge". :wink: Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: shearer on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:12:21 I couldnt agree more, why stay and deal with more embargos, unpaid wages, countless failed takeovers and continued bullshit from this shower of wankers running our club
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Arriba on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:12:42 Quote from: "pumbaa" Bollocks. And why is this in the match day section???? er,no i think its true.and where else should have it been posted? Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: janaage on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:13:23 Huge gamble on his part though. Consider "manager of the century" at home park and he's willing to risk that by going back. If they went down....
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:13:26 NSFW
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: pumbaa on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:14:30 Management?
Does anyone really think I was serious about Mad Dog........I'm getting better then if they do....... :mrgreen: Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:15:54 I agree. He's doing what's best for him which is exactly what any of us would do.
And just to put a bit of perspective on this "Oooh he's so disloyal, the fans are the only ones with any loyalty" issue. Yes. To a degree that is true. But we as fans are only loyal to STFC. We have no loyalty to Paul Sturrock. Let's assume, just for argument's sake that he decides to stay. We then go and lose six games on the bounce. How many people would be saying, "Well I think we should cut him a bit of slack because he's been so loyal to us. Let's not get on his back" Would that really happen? Would it fuck as like. People expect manager's to be loyal to their club when it suits them but after a few dodgy results they want them out. I seem to remember that there were even a few rumbles of discontent about Sturrock last season when we lost about four away games without scoring a goal. There were a few fans even then who wanted him out. I expect they are now amongst those are saying he's disloyal. It's just hypocritical bollocks. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:15:54 Quote from: "pumbaa" Management? Does anyone really think I was serious about Mad Dog........I'm getting better then if they do....... :mrgreen: The question mark seems appropriate, should Sturrock leave. Incidentally, there's no longer a management section. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: pumbaa on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:18:05 Management?
Does anyone really think I was serious about Mad Dog........I'm getting better then if they do....... :mrgreen: Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: janaage on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:18:25 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" I agree. He's doing what's best for him which is exactly what any of us would do. And just to put a bit of perspective on this "Oooh he's so disloyal, the fans are the only ones with any loyalty" issue. Yes. To a degree that is true. But we as fans are only loyal to STFC. We have no loyalty to Paul Sturrock. Let's assume, just for argument's sake that he decides to stay. We then go and lose six games on the bounce. How many people would be saying, "Well I think we should cut him a bit of slack because he's been so loyal to us. Let's not get on his back" Would that really happen? Would it fuck as like. People expect manager's to be loyal to their club when it suits them but after a few dodgy results they want them out. I seem to remember that there were even a few rumbles of discontent about Sturrock last season when we lost about four away games without scoring a goal. There were a few fans even then who wanted him out. I expect they are now amongst those are saying he's disloyal. It's just hypocritical bollocks. Spot on OST. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: pumbaa on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:19:51 Fucking spastic computer and double posts :twisted:
And for what its worth, I also agree with OST. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:20:14 i'm surprised at the amount of abuse he's receiving. i'm putting it down to frustration though, let the dust settle and i'm sure people will recognise his achievements here.
imo the board are entirely to blame for this, why would he want to waste his time attempting to progress this football club when he's unable to sign players due to unpaid bills, he's had players forced upon him because of failed takeovers and perhaps the transfer embargo is the straw that broke the camel's back? Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: pumbaa on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:24:35 Quote from: "Si Pie" Quote from: "pumbaa" Management? Does anyone really think I was serious about Mad Dog........I'm getting better then if they do....... :mrgreen: The question mark seems appropriate, should Sturrock leave. Incidentally, there's no longer a management section. Someone's been messing again I see.... :roll: IMO, its all Mandaric's fault. If that stupid cunt hadn't appointed Allen as boss of Leicester in the first place, then fired him, then eventually hired Holloway, Sturrock would still be ours. Its all a pile of arse. I'm in a grumpy mood as I'm looking forward to a nice 8 hour overnight flight to the UK tonight = no sleep.... Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:25:51 Um it's been gone for ages Pumba :wink:
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:26:55 AS I SAID IN ANOTHER THREAD:
I wouldn't say Sturrock is a cunt, end of the day he could ahve left when BEST were underminding him. he didn't. If he goes it is clearly down to him not having the resources to take us further ie. The transfer embargo etc. That is the boards fault not Sturrock's. The board told him new owners were in place and they haven't materialised. He eventually just lost patience. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Arriba on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 21:28:54 Quote from: "pumbaa" Fucking spastic computer and double posts :twisted: And for what its worth, I also agree with OST. so what is bollocks and what is the appropriate place for the thread? Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: lebowski on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 22:12:10 hate to bring it up but i think the possibility of a points deduction, combined with the fact that it's plymouth, is what has made him go.
if the cva etc was not an issue off i'm convinced he would politely decline plymouth's advances. they're 4th now, the highest they've ever been (??), he can only possibly fail. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Sippo on Monday, November 26, 2007, 08:41:15 Wise did exactly the same thing, looking after himself, yet people think he's a cunt.
Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: herthab on Monday, November 26, 2007, 08:52:10 I don't think he's a cunt, it's just frustrating the way all of them come out with all the soundbites when they arrive, just to piss off as soon as they get the chance.
I said on another thread that if the takeover deal goes through this week and Sturrock still goes then he's let us down. Which shouldn't be a surprise as they all do. Instead of someone getting the job and saying they're here for the long haul, blah, blah, blah, it would be refreshing if they told the truth: 'While I'm here I'll do my best, but if another club comes in for me that I like the look of you won't see me for dust!' Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 26, 2007, 09:06:53 Quote from: "herthab" I don't think he's a cunt, it's just frustrating the way all of them come out with all the soundbites when they arrive, just to piss off as soon as they get the chance. I said on another thread that if the takeover deal goes through this week and Sturrock still goes then he's let us down. Which shouldn't be a surprise as they all do. Instead of someone getting the job and saying they're here for the long haul, blah, blah, blah, it would be refreshing if they told the truth: 'While I'm here I'll do my best, but if another club comes in for me that I like the look of you won't see me for dust!' Very true and far too honest for the likes of a football club manager to come out with! A bit like the club making Steve Cotterill the manager and the day he arrives he states....I aimt to take the club forward and get us to our best position in the league for years, but, if Bristol City sack their manager then with me being a lifelong fan of theirs...would go to them as they are my first love in football. Far too honest I suspect but it would be nice. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: yeo on Monday, November 26, 2007, 09:09:24 As football fans its not our job to be rational.Someone asked what I would do in the situation,obviously id stay for ever and I've proved this on FM :mrgreen:
Dress it up anyway you like he is 100% letting us and the club down.he's said things about loyalty and being in it for the long term and he was obviously just saying what he thought people wanted to hear and never really ment any of it. I dont even think he's leaving us in paticularly good shape. Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: janaage on Monday, November 26, 2007, 09:14:05 Well he's definitely not leaving YOU in particularly good shape YR!!!!
:wink: Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: yeo on Monday, November 26, 2007, 09:25:28 I'll tell you what really pisses me off about this,he has constantly fought the boards corner and people have listened to him.Protests were stopped because of his say so.What right did he have to get involved?Fucking fat Scottish prick.
Grr Im getting all angry now better take the dogs for a walk Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, November 26, 2007, 09:30:14 Quote from: "Oevil red" I'll tell you what really pisses me off about this,he has constantly fought the boards corner and people have listened to him.Protests were stopped because of his say so.What right did he have to get involved?Fucking fat Scottish prick. Grr Im getting all angry now better take the dogs for a walk :D Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Spud on Monday, November 26, 2007, 10:58:01 Quote from: "Oevil red" I'll tell you what really pisses me off about this,he has constantly fought the boards corner and people have listened to him.Protests were stopped because of his say so.What right did he have to get involved?Fucking fat Scottish prick. Grr Im getting all angry now better take the dogs for a walk :bow1: Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: DV on Monday, November 26, 2007, 17:34:29 I'll the same thing about Sturrock as I did about Wise...
....good manager and I didnt want him to leave and I blame all of this on the board showing a complete and total lack of ambition. 1. After getting us promoted Sturrock should have been rewarded with a new contract 2. If you dont want your manager to go, then dont let him go. Tell Plymouth to go fuck themselves. If im honest I am slightly dissapointed in Sturrock, he came here to do a job and said he was in it for the long run.... Title: the sturrock is going and i dont blame him thread Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, December 1, 2007, 05:19:18 Good luck Luggy, somebody had to put the Argyle in Plymouth.
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