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we miss him in defence!

that Jack Smith fellas alright as well but Vincent is vocal. Most games he plays he is all you can hear!

And Ian Culverhouse.

Been poor since Shaun Taylor left!

i'd rather have nicho over vincent.

at least nicholas offers us something going forward, he'd be a lot mroe sound defensively if he didn't have a shit french cunt playing ahead of him.

co-incidence our defence has been a shambles for 2 of the 3 games Vincent has missed....dont think so.

He is better defensivly, is alot louder, organizes the defence and commands the line. All things are back 5 lacked today.

That and a goal keeper

The Minge played well today.

And Nicho was ok. Ifil was well...Ifil (and my MoM).

The rest were bollocks.

You see, i dont agree with that. He looked handy going forward, but at the back his positioning in particular was dreadfull. Blokey stood by me said he was mom though?!

He had a dodgy 10 minutes to start with but after that did really well imo. Coped really well considering JPM had gone awol from his right midfield position most of the game.

It amazes me how Commingues was winning quite a lot in the air for his height especially.  Hes not scared to get stuck in and fair play to him.  Think hes doing well and at least he can be accused of not making enough effort unlike some.

I don't like Vincent much as a player but I'm 100% on Nicho - still prefer him though.  I think hes got a lot more to give and think he'll come good given more chances.

Minge peeled off wide every time and gave options to Hanse and Jerel but they just ignored him

I was screaming at the to pass to him

Amongst other things.................... :wink:

:mrgreen:

I hate zaboub

I'm getting there as well. His no-end-product mincing is infuriating

word!  ifil's caught the gurney disease; pointless cross field passes to zaaboub who is so poor in the air he makes me look like miroslav klose.

I thought Minge and Ifil were excellent. Aljofree and Nicho were poor. I want Vincent back.

I thought Nicho looked a bit shakey and tbh we probably do miss the organisation Vincent brings. We would have been even more narrow had vincent played though.

I think Vincent will play centre back on his return. Sounds like Ifil won't be playing when certain people come back from injury (according to Sturrock).

Is that due to Ifil's injury? As without Ifil's pace we will be done time and time again in behind....Ifil even when not playing at his best would be first name on the teamsheet for me even ahead of Aljofree as I think Ifil has got Aljofree out of trouble a fair few times.
Aljofree and Vincent in the middle would be a strikers dream IMO as absolutely no pace and neither are the tallest...

neither are exactly midgets. aljofree is the same height as ifil and he's solid in the air.

dropping ifil would be foolish

I've always thought Vincent's one of our most important defensive players, okay so he may not offer a hell of a lot going forward but he's a class defender.  No surprise to me that we're missing him.

Vincent was being pelted on this forum before he got injured but has become one of our best players in the last two weeks

Sturrock said Ifil will need to be rested as he's playing and training through pain and he won't be able to keep doing that.

I still think Vincent is a shit left back.

not by me he wasnt.

In the Nationwide by the touchline its his voice you hear ALL the time, even at the back of the Nationwide with the mega fast idiot clappers to my right I can still here him barking orders at the defence.

Heard nothing from Nicholas, Aljofree, Ifil or Comminges yesterday.

Talking & communication is a very important part of football, once that often isnt seen by the fans.....but some players excel at it and others, well dont.

Our main talker is missing and we've looked worse off for it.

he can stand on the sidelines warming up and shouting then co9s he's a shit left back :D

The non-regular fullbacks, and walking wounded, may explain why we are apparently lumping it.  Are they playing the way they are because that's how they are told to play?

Just because a few people on here slated him doesn't mean the TEF endorsed this treatment of JV.  We can have different opinions Adje, I'm a JV supporter and think he's a big asset to the side.

i still think vincent is crap.

He was definately awful at Millwall. Always backs off and 'sherks' away from a challenge.

I agree with you. I prefer JV over AN any day of the week.

Even Thursdays?

vincent is the better defender.nicho is better with the ball and going forward.

Well when i say ANY day of the week i think that means EVERY day!  :P

Even Mondays?

SiPie, i'm going to protest to get this sport made illegal, its cruel and inhumane.

Totally agree with that view.

spot on and sturrock likes his full backs to get involved, vincent doesn't do that

but I expect he also likes his defenders to defend....

well he signed comminges!