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Don't get me wrong I'll be there on Saturday, but with the latest press statement from the club and the inevitable reporting of it by the local media, I think the protests will be quite small in scale.

A lot of people will either swallow it whole, or fear rocking the boat.

Also, the statement reports that SSW is walking, one of things we were protesting about!

If it's true, brilliant. If it's another smokescreen then they've done a top job as it will definitely impact on the numbers that join in Saturday...................

i fear it'll be a few round the back of the arkells post match saturday now.

Tough decision now
In a way a protest seems stupid and pointless after this statement, but there is still nothing concrete in place to say the club will be ok

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No no no, R4E!

You've been taken in, exactly how they wanted it.

Hear hear Sam.

How gullible do they think we are?

Last night nearly everybody applauded the "won't believe a word of it again" point.

Its a very good statement in STFC terms.

I think most people knew there would be some sort of appeasement towards the fans this week. To me, the situation remains the same, I want Diamandis gone, never to come back ever, not even to make programs.

The statement makes it look like its all Best's fault. But actually they hid their true intentions, and delayed due dilligence. They got found out, and BEST made mugs out of them. Tough shit.

even if it is true, it's just a boy who cried wolf situation now. however, this announcement will appease some of the less militant fans amongst us and i can see the numbers protesting this weekend dwindling to a few dozen again.

Sad to say i agree with you.  We underestimate the ability of most of our fans to be placated.  Especially the many who would rather be in a pub than protesting in the first place.  There are already plenty of "no need to protest" posts on thisis, regardless of what you may think of the site, our fans are like that.

I don't think I'll be protesting on Saturday.

I'd like to know specifically what the protests are about and the desired outcome?

then you'd assume your starting point would be other threads you've already posted on digglie

Maybe I haven't read the bits you have but it's not clear to me hence the post. I'm not playing devil's advocate and I have a general understanding that the protest is about discontent with the management of the club, but unless the main points are better articulated so that they are specfic and measurable then whatever their merits, the protests on Saturday may not be well understood.

It's to get rid of Seton Wells and Mike Diamandis, the 2 worst things ever to happen to STFC.

read them then. taaaaa daaaaa

Dunno about worst 2 things but agree with general sentiment.

How will the protests achieve this? Just curious.

The probably won't even be at the game knowing about the protests. But as Paul said at the meeting, if the protests have that affect then it means we've made them uncomfortable and that means we've achieved something.

Guess you don't know either then.

No we need to keep this up. This is exactly what the board were hoping to do. Release today's statement and then hope we hold fire. No we won't. They only way to get them out is to keep up the pressure. Sell up now. That's the message we need to put across.

or you could read and interpret things your own way hun? hmmmm go on

How did the Berlin wall fall in 1989?

spammer.

My interpretation is that the thinking behind the protests is muddled and unclear however I'd be persuaded otherwise by a rational and logical argument in favour of protesting.

Perhaps someone who went to Monday's meeting could provide this?

Is your middle name Provocative?

The rational and logical argument is that protesting puts pressure on the board to sell up as fast as possible and to get out.

Or is that too muddled and unclear for you?

Look I'm not against protests per se, it's just that there needs to be some common agreement on exactly what the purpose is and how the protests will assist in acheiving this objective.

I dont need your approval thanks no mark whatever your name is.

I dont care if your head is muddled.

But isn't that what they're trying to do already with or without protests? I don't think they want to be in charge any more than we want them there. Protests aren't going to magic up buyers.

Sorry for being controversial - I'm just looking for info.

But isn't that what they're trying to do already with or without protests? I don't think they want to be in charge any more than we want them there. Protests aren't going to magic up buyers.

Sorry for being controversial - I'm just looking for info.[/quote]

No at the moment they appear to be trying to rinse out as much money as they can before they leave.

No they want someone to pay about 10 million for a majority share, so they can stick around. Then probably steal off the new owners, just like they stole from Bill Power last time they had an arrangement like this. Anything that weakens their position (something like protests) will lower the asking price, thus making it more likely that someone will come in.

I want to see them gone. Full stop. Forever. But Diamandis has an unhealthy obsession with keeping control because a) he's made a lot of money out of STFC. b) he hasnt done it legitamately and some things will come back to haunt him if they get out.

Thanks for wasting my time. Now go back to sleep please.

I'm protesting for two reasons:
1) To show my disgust that the club has been financially run into the ground to the extent that our survival is on the line.
2) To demand that the current board sell up and leave with as much speed as is possible.

I sure there will be hundreds of people who feel the same way and will want to make these 2 simple points.

I will still be protesting on Saturday................as far as I'm concerned this is the usual shit from the club and it was all too predictable!

So the point of the protests is to reduce the value of our club so that new buyers emerge at that price level?

That makes sense.

The value of the club is nothing. We have no real assets and it now appears we are 11 million in debt. We also need instant payment of the CVA.

The idea is perhaps to get them to lower the asking price. But also make them see that they do not have a future at the club.

I thought the real value of the club was something like -£15 million?

It's time to crank up the pressure. We've got them on the ropes. Let's finish this for good.

An independent valuation would be interesting. Clearly there is some value hence the interest from BEST and A.N.Other as announced today (assuming it's genuine)

the value of the club is based on building a new ground Best was bleeting on about it after saying it wasn't a priority. its the only avenue of generating  revenue to pay the debts lets face it the current board have burnt all their bridges with the council on ground building so are now screwed after the debts have built up.

i'm protesting because i like to follow the crowd.

We are the angry mob...

We read the forums everyday...

I just look at the pictures.

Si Pi made the point in a different thread that the timing of the board statement is anything but a coincidence.  The fact that the protest plans are all over the press means the credibility of the protests are on the line.  The board are betting that another hollow promise of investors will put a large percentage off, cynically playing on fans emotions who don't want to risk any deal that could save us.  As fans, we need to make sure there are hundreds and hundreds out there protesting or those cunts will have a field day and know they can con most people whenever the hell they feel like it

Agree. Don't make it 3rd time lucky for the board.

Another few things I'd like to say.

Firstly, the if protests were that detrimental to any investor opportunity then why wasn't the statement released BEFORE yesterday. It must have been clear for at least the past week or two that the BEST Holdings deal was a dead duck.

Secondly they're trying anything possible to remove the power from the protests. It seems Paul Sturrock has even told Shaun Hodgetts that he doesn't mind if we protest after the game but not before (saw it on bbc news).

Two points:

*They know that less people will be able to see protesting after the game behind the Arkells than somewhere else before the game.

*They've played the Paul Sturrock - we know you don't want to hurt the team card.

This is their last throw of the dice surely? How many more statements do people want to endure? BBC won't point their cameras at us for long, especially if we're doing nothing. Come another two months down the line when another deal falls through (if it does exist) people will probably want to protest again. If we don't pour our hearts and souls into this now then BBC/ITV won't give us any air time because they won't want to waste their time second time round.

We should strike whilst the iron's hot. Swallow this bullshit and you're a fool.

Fucking spot on, there were 60 odd comments at the bottom of the adver article online last time i looked, there were a few in the gullibla club, one in the 'I hate P Davis' club and the majority were in the 'Fuck off, i'm not getting sucked in again' club. Leads me to believe that a good number will still make themselves heard if the message we are trying to give out remains consistent.

The board are feeling the pressure and we need to keep it up.