Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Leggett on Friday, October 12, 2007, 19:32:13 ...will be glad, the union and Royal mail have reached an agreement. woop, no more strikes.
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: yeo on Friday, October 12, 2007, 19:33:38 good I might get the Cds ive ordered sometime soon
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: yeo on Friday, October 12, 2007, 19:34:34 Although I support the Postmans strike.
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: sonic youth on Friday, October 12, 2007, 19:43:18 so do i and it means i can order some stuff off the internet again, wahey!
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, October 12, 2007, 20:09:53 Good.
Lazy barstewards. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Leggett on Friday, October 12, 2007, 20:33:46 i'm glad you support us, most of the people i've spoken to have, but the press always seems to get the negative ones, bunch of fuckers.
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, October 12, 2007, 20:34:44 Actual;y, I've changed my mind.
Can you go on strike again? It'd save me from having to do any work. Thankyou please. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Luci on Friday, October 12, 2007, 20:37:49 I used to like driving by the striking postmen o the way to work.........little marquee style thing on the side of the road.......
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Bushey Boy on Friday, October 12, 2007, 23:13:09 Good, glad you have all sorted it, now if you could deliver all my cheques I will happy to receive money and never have a fucking cash flow problem again, cunts
rant over Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 10:44:42 About fucking time too.
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 11:23:02 nothing is agreed yet and some are still out on strike.dont count on it being over yet!
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Compo on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 11:25:41 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Spud on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 11:33:37 Quote from: "arriba" nothing is agreed yet and some are still out on strike.dont count on it being over yet! It's got to go to the main Union leader to go over it and then we'll be balloted on whether we think it's good enough. I personally can't see many saying 'no' as most people are relieved that the strikes are now over. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 11:41:28 dont count on it.i can see many of the union members rejecting the proposals put to them.even if the union reccomend they accept the deal.
the improvements will be minimal and if posties cave in then all the strikes would have been a waste of time and would deem the union as useless. i think the outcome will probably be to accept the offer but it will be a close call.and if it goes either way it wont surprise me Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 15:01:44 Yay does that mean I might finally get the present my friend brought me back from New York and posted to me OVER A WEEK AGO!!
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Spud on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 16:34:06 Quote from: "arriba" dont count on it.i can see many of the union members rejecting the proposals put to them.even if the union reccomend they accept the deal. the improvements will be minimal and if posties cave in then all the strikes would have been a waste of time and would deem the union as useless. i think the outcome will probably be to accept the offer but it will be a close call.and if it goes either way it wont surprise me Well what you can see and what i know from working inside the Mail Centre are two different matters altogether, most people who have been out on industrial action are thankful that an agreement has been agreed and i can't see many people not agreeing to it. I wasn't out on strike because of the pay situation, my main gripe was the flexibilty side of things. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: herthab on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 16:36:48 No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London.
Workshy, grasping cunts............................... Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Spud on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 16:39:21 Quote from: "herthab" No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London. Workshy, grasping cunts............................... Yeah i don't really understand what their problem is?, all the other delivery office's have carried on working with the new start times. Place's like Liverpool and Glasgow are extremely militant though. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:01:22 Quote from: "Spud" Quote from: "arriba" dont count on it.i can see many of the union members rejecting the proposals put to them.even if the union reccomend they accept the deal. the improvements will be minimal and if posties cave in then all the strikes would have been a waste of time and would deem the union as useless. i think the outcome will probably be to accept the offer but it will be a close call.and if it goes either way it wont surprise me Well what you can see and what i know from working inside the Mail Centre are two different matters altogether, most people who have been out on industrial action are thankful that an agreement has been agreed and i can't see many people not agreeing to it. I wasn't out on strike because of the pay situation, my main gripe was the flexibilty side of things. i know it was the condtions more than money.and you can obviously give the opinions of your fellow workers in the mail centre. but remember this is a national dispute, so not all workplaces will be of the same opinion. as nobody knows what the agreement is yet, we can only speculate anyway. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: yeo on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:04:23 I thought it was more about robbing your pensions?
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:04:54 Quote from: "herthab" No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London. Workshy, grasping cunts............................... or maybe proud people with spirit and fight, who will give up many days pay to fight for a cause they believe in? Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:06:31 pensions,earning potential,flexible working,redundancy package reductions,etc,etc
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:11:45 Sigh. If you don't like your pay and conditions then fuck off and get a job where you do like them.
:wall: Bloody quasi-public sector businesses. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: herthab on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:16:19 Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "herthab" No surprise that the two main areas of the country still suffering from unofficial 'wildcat' strikes are Liverpool and East London. Workshy, grasping cunts............................... or maybe proud people with spirit and fight, who will give up many days pay to fight for a cause they believe in? Maybe, but I think my reason are more likely............ Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:16:32 customers will suffer too talk talk.when its no longer a public sector company and the cost of sending a letter increases hugely.
i thought you'd be backing the posties? do a bit of research on it.it'll change your attitude i'm convinced of that. posties are trying to protect what they have, not ask for more. is that unreasonable? Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:55:08 Quote from: "arriba" customers will suffer too talk talk.when its no longer a public sector company and the cost of sending a letter increases hugely. Well we shall see. Take the monopoly away and see how the free market responds. I tell you, Royal Mail would be dead within a year. It is top heavy, over staffed, has too many unrealistic expectations and is just like any other public sector organisation. Quote i thought you'd be backing the posties? do a bit of research on it.it'll change your attitude i'm convinced of that. posties are trying to protect what they have, not ask for more. is that unreasonable? When the rest of us fuckers have to run businesses, compete, fight tooth and nail to make a living then yes, it is. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Spud on Sunday, October 14, 2007, 01:48:45 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "arriba" customers will suffer too talk talk.when its no longer a public sector company and the cost of sending a letter increases hugely. Well we shall see. Take the monopoly away and see how the free market responds. I tell you, Royal Mail would be dead within a year. It is top heavy, over staffed, has too many unrealistic expectations and is just like any other public sector organisation. Errrrrrrrm yes ok, the fact is there is no competition, TNT & DHL currently pay us to deliver their mail so go figure. Over staffed!?, hahahaha just show's what little you know, we've never been so under staffed. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 14, 2007, 08:26:59 There's always courier :soapy tit wank: :D
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Arriba on Sunday, October 14, 2007, 08:37:18 the monopoly was taken away some time ago talk talk.fact is other companys take the profitable part away from royal mail by uncutting them.then as spud has pointed out,pay royal mail to do the bit that isn't profitable,ie posting letters.royal mail do this part as they are legally obliged to do so.thats good fair buisness sense from our government eh?
for someone who normally is quite clued up on subjects.i'm a bit disapointed with your narrowminded drivel on this one. if royal mail was treated as a public service and left alone then it would be fine as it was in years past. constant changes,cutbacks,and closures have dragged the royal mail backwards and both staff and customers are suffering for it. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: TalkTalk on Sunday, October 14, 2007, 08:43:36 Fair enough.
I just think striking is completely counter productive. Nobody wins. And it doesn't happen in the "real" commercial world. Hence my comments about quasi-public sector organisations. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: dell boy on Sunday, October 14, 2007, 09:19:13 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Fair enough. I just think striking is completely counter productive. Nobody wins. And it doesn't happen in the "real" commercial world. Hence my comments about quasi-public sector organisations. :nod: Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Leggett on Sunday, October 14, 2007, 14:26:49 striking was very much the last resort, the management have been completely unrealistic in their attempts to force through the changes they want.
i had a 'discussion' with a stuck-up receptionist lady at the Holiday Inn the day before the strikes last week, she told me that everyone's in the same boat, but no-one else is striking. well, not really love... not at all. under-researched know-it-all people suck. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, October 15, 2007, 11:48:30 Ive just had to open about 2 weeks worth of post at work this morning - took hours!! :x
on the plus side my pressie came!! Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, October 15, 2007, 11:55:19 From what I've read a lot of the working practices at Royal mail beggar belief in the real world, such as knocking off early if your work is done and the non automatic covering for colleagues who are on holiday or sick etc. The pensions and beneifts you recieve are better than anywhere in the private sector.
all these strikes have done is lose the workers public support and push forward the end of the royal mail as it currently stands. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Spud on Monday, October 15, 2007, 13:03:49 Quote from: "Colin Todd" From what I've read a lot of the working practices at Royal mail beggar belief in the real world, such as knocking off early if your work is done and the non automatic covering for colleagues who are on holiday or sick etc. The pensions and beneifts you recieve are better than anywhere in the private sector. all these strikes have done is lose the workers public support and push forward the end of the royal mail as it currently stands. When people are on holiday or sick their duties are suppose to be covered by what we call 'leave reserves', those 'leave reserves' get a list of those duties that are available which they then put down as their 1st,2nd & 3rd choice, it is then allocated to them but we're so short staffed that 8 times out of 10 nobody is covering them absent duties as there aren't enough leave reserves to cover them. Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: spacey on Monday, October 15, 2007, 13:12:59 I think all postmen should be sacked, and with the money that is saved everyone should be given a free computer. This way all forms of written correspondence can be sent via email. Presents and stuff can be delivered by small people dressed as elves......or even dressed as Elvis.
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: janaage on Monday, October 15, 2007, 13:35:09 I really couldn't give a monkeys either way, so my post didn't arrived last week, so what, it was quite nice not to have bills piled through my letter box.
Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, October 15, 2007, 14:28:35 Quote from: "Spud" Quote from: "Colin Todd" From what I've read a lot of the working practices at Royal mail beggar belief in the real world, such as knocking off early if your work is done and the non automatic covering for colleagues who are on holiday or sick etc. The pensions and beneifts you recieve are better than anywhere in the private sector. all these strikes have done is lose the workers public support and push forward the end of the royal mail as it currently stands. When people are on holiday or sick their duties are suppose to be covered by what we call 'leave reserves', those 'leave reserves' get a list of those duties that are available which they then put down as their 1st,2nd & 3rd choice, it is then allocated to them but we're so short staffed that 8 times out of 10 nobody is covering them absent duties as there aren't enough leave reserves to cover them. I'm not having a pop at you personally here as I appreciate you are just explaing how things work, but when my boss is away I take on most of his duties. This means longer hours and much more work but it has to be done. I dont get paid overtime for it. i dont get any help from anyone else. I just get some kudos from senior management when they see things dont go wrong in my bosses absense. This is the way things are in most private companies Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: neville w on Monday, October 15, 2007, 15:20:14 Quote from: "spacey" I think all postmen should be sacked, . How else do they carry the letters then ? Title: all you postman-haters... Post by: neville w on Monday, October 15, 2007, 15:21:24 Quote from: "arriba" nothing is agreed yet and some are still out on strike.dont count on it being over yet! Just a case of tying up some "minor paperwork", so I've heard..... |