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Title: The Rugby
Post by: janaage on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 13:30:49
Fuck me, this is entertaining stuff.  Fair play to england, they're doing alright at the minute.  Aussies not playing well at all.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 13:40:57
I want Austraila to win.  At least they try and get tries, unlike ultra boring England who always rely on Wilkinson for 3 points

Come on you Aussies


Title: The Rugby
Post by: land_of_bo on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 14:04:06
you have to play to your strengths...


Title: The Rugby
Post by: land_of_bo on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 14:41:45
...and bye bye aussies.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 14:42:50
soapy tit wank,  cant believe it.  Do England play the winners of the New Zealand game ?    Hope so


Title: The Rugby
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 14:44:42
Im impressed. I thought we'd get stuffed


Title: The Rugby
Post by: yeo on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 14:45:48
:D I dont like Rugby but that what fun.

I think the last game i watched was the last world cup final ,im obviously a lucky charm.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: pumbaa on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 14:51:23
I was playing golf with two Aussies yesterday. Time for revenge........


Title: The Rugby
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 15:07:16
Quote from: "StefPol"
soapy tit wank,  cant believe it.  Do England play the winners of the New Zealand game ?    Hope so
Why does it matter to you? The Aussies went out  :D


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Northern Red on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 15:50:00
Quote from: "StefPol"
I want Austraila to win.  At least they try and get tries, unlike ultra boring England who always rely on Wilkinson for 3 points

Come on you Aussies

 :wanker:
Said like every other twat who doesn't get rugby...


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:17:40
Its the same with Scotland,  dont want them to beat the Argies, as they are a one trick pony like England.

If it was 6 points for a try and 1 point for a drop goal,  England would be one of the worst teams in this tourney


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Boeta on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:43:02
english sports teams have never and will never be about playing attractively and flowingly. an england win will be a win of strength of character.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Luci on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:46:12
ENGERLAND LA LA LA ENGERLAND LA LA LA


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:46:53
stef, you are sounding very ignorant. and if i'm calling you ignorant you MUST be being a retard


Title: The Rugby
Post by: lebowski on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:47:57
he sounds more bitter than ignorant, if you ask me.

semi finals here we come.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:49:27
i wasn't aware poland were in the world cup?


Title: The Rugby
Post by: larwood on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:50:52
Quote from: "StefPol"
I want Austraila to win.  At least they try and get tries, unlike ultra boring England who always rely on Wilkinson for 3 points

Come on you Aussies

Oh for fucks sake,how the hell could you have wanted the convicts to win :shock:  :shock: Its a scientific fact that all aussies are cunts :wink:

Brilliant day,wish i'd brought a lottery ticket now,my luck is obviously in :beers:


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 17:16:31
Why were they showing man utd in the winners loungfe instead of this  :x


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 17:17:57
At the end of the day England won, and thats all that matters.

For me though, Rugby should be all about scoring tries and making the game exciting.

I remember in the last rugby world cup.  England played Wales, and Wales scored 3 tries to England;s one,  yet Johnny Wilkinson's boot saved Englands arse, and England went on to win the cup.

If i was a manager of any rugby team, i would just keep telling my team to go for drop goals.  Once you score a goal, the oposition then kicks the ball back to you and then the game sarts again.  Would tell my players to get within shooting distance of the posts, and go for another drop goal.

For me, i tought todays game was pretty boring.  At least with Figi, Tonga, Samoa, Argentina,  they go for tries, and not rely on 3 points every time


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 17:18:47
rugby is about winning, as is any sport.

dur


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 17:19:53
That game was exciting though and England were playing for tries. Most of the penalties came as a result of this.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 17:21:41
Rugby League has the right idea imo


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 17:23:33
being about winning as opposed to being fancy? hmm mental


Title: The Rugby
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 17:39:13
stefpol just hates anything remotely english.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: janaage on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 18:16:28
Quote from: "STFCLady"
ENGERLAND LA LA LA ENGERLAND LA LA LA


 :oops:


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 18:19:35
Quote from: "sonic youth"
stefpol just hates anything remotely english.


Damn, you uncovered my secret  :D


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Lumps on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 18:47:03
Er.............?  What definition of entertaining are we using here? Clearly one I've not encountered before.

80 minutes of two packs bent over shoving each other up and down the pitch, moves involving passes between more than two backs as rare as hens teeth, one scrappy try from the Aussies and England winning it thanks to old metronome leg. (What are you going to do when he can't play anymore.....  oh hold on I guess you'll do what you've done for the last three years, still be really dull but get beat by anyone with a bit of talent.

Anyway todays game .............Thrilling. The All-Blacks will fucking cream you.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 20:48:19
Bring on the French. Bye Bye All Blacks.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 20:50:03
We've got france then. Would've prefered new zealand, but hey, we'd probably lose to whoever we played.

Today should shut up those who keep banging on about how much more dominant the southern hemisphere is over the northern.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 22:09:33
Quote from: "Lumps"
Er.............?  What definition of entertaining are we using here? Clearly one I've not encountered before.

80 minutes of two packs bent over shoving each other up and down the pitch, moves involving passes between more than two backs as rare as hens teeth, one scrappy try from the Aussies and England winning it thanks to old metronome leg. (What are you going to do when he can't play anymore.....  oh hold on I guess you'll do what you've done for the last three years, still be really dull but get beat by anyone with a bit of talent.

Anyway todays game .............Thrilling. The All-Blacks will fucking cream you.
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will they now. twat.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: strooood on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 22:42:00
man i hate rugby, just too many touch downs and slamdunks for me to handle.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: STFCDude2 on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 23:04:48
After todays results, its down to us now to easily beat Fiji, then either Scotland or the Argies, then fuck over England or France.  Easy!!!


Title: The Rugby
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 00:15:04
Quote from: "STFCDude2"
After todays results, its down to us now to easily beat Fiji, then either Scotland or the Argies, then fuck over England or France.  Easy!!!
To be honest, I think that's exactly what will happen!


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bennett on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 01:35:01
Quote from: "mexico red"
Quote from: "Lumps"
Er.............?  What definition of entertaining are we using here? Clearly one I've not encountered before.

80 minutes of two packs bent over shoving each other up and down the pitch, moves involving passes between more than two backs as rare as hens teeth, one scrappy try from the Aussies and England winning it thanks to old metronome leg. (What are you going to do when he can't play anymore.....  oh hold on I guess you'll do what you've done for the last three years, still be really dull but get beat by anyone with a bit of talent.

Anyway todays game .............Thrilling. The All-Blacks will fucking cream you.
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will they now. twat.


seconded!


Title: The Rugby
Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 08:48:25
All blacks are out now aren't they?


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 09:24:03
I like Fiji, much better to watch than the nothern hemisphere rubbish like Ireland, England, Wales etc. They play rugby the way it should be played, fast running not bloody kicking all the time.
Having said that they will probably go out today, as far as I am concerned the longer they stay in the better.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 09:40:06
Quote from: "Dachauer"
I like Fiji, blah blah blah. i dont really know what im on about, im just going to salg off england again blah blah blah etc etc

Having said that they will probably go out today, as far as I am concerned the longer they stay in the better.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 10:46:38
I do know about rugby thank you very much, I used to captain my school team. I wasn't slagging off England, just that northern hemisphere rugby is in general boring and based on a kicking game


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bennett on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 10:51:37
but it won on this occasion? good good


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 12:02:01
England didn't use the kicking game very well at all yesterday.

The forwards were fucking over Australia and the only reason we didn't get a try is they kept commiting penalties. When the game is poised so closely you kick for points not go for a try. Any team would do the same.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: janaage on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 14:19:08
Come on Fiji!!!  What a comeback, surely they can't win this!!


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 14:21:47
S Africa 20-20 Fiji

Now this is what you call a game of Rugby.

Come on Fiji and come on the Argies later on


Title: The Rugby
Post by: janaage on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 14:23:04
Fiji style  8)


Title: The Rugby
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 14:23:56
anyone got a fiji scarf?


Title: The Rugby
Post by: janaage on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 14:27:30
I can't believe this, great game.


Knock on, gutted!


Title: The Rugby
Post by: axs on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 14:28:13
i had a fiji rubgy shirt that i bought in fiji, i gave it away though as its too small for me now.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: STFCDude2 on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 15:18:03
Must say that was a great game, but we were just toying with the Fijians in that second half ;)


Title: The Rugby
Post by: janaage on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 15:21:20
Now for the Scotland v Argentina match, really don't fancy our chances, we'll have to improve on our recent performances to have any hope.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 17:03:30
i fucking hate people who use the phrase "the way rugby should be played"

why? fucking why does it have to be played like a cunting 7s match. the forwards are an integral part of rugby. dont see any problem in englands performance, they knew the strenghs of theor team and the weaknesses of australia. good fucking call.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 17:49:12
Quote from: "mexico red"
i fucking hate people who use the phrase "the way rugby should be played"

why? fucking why does it have to be played like a cunting 7s match. the forwards are an integral part of rugby. dont see any problem in englands performance, they knew the strenghs of theor team and the weaknesses of australia. good fucking call.


Quite agree.  It's a fairly tactical game, much more so than football, and any team that doesn't pay attention to the basic rules and structures of the game comes unstuck.  As Si mentioned, we could have a couple of tries if the Aussies weren't collapsing scrums all day, especially 5 metres out.  Penalties are 3 points for a reason - don't infringe and you don't conceed 3 points.  Rugby is a game with half the team made up of forwards, it makes perfect sense to use them.  I was suprised at New Zealand going out because they have at least realised you need a strong pack, but again, they farted around trying to score a glorious try to win when they could have taken the drop goal.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 17:53:32
Quote from: "StefPol"
At the end of the day England won, and thats all that matters.

For me though, Rugby should be all about scoring tries and making the game exciting.

I remember in the last rugby world cup.  England played Wales, and Wales scored 3 tries to England;s one,  yet Johnny Wilkinson's boot saved Englands arse, and England went on to win the cup.

If i was a manager of any rugby team, i would just keep telling my team to go for drop goals.  Once you score a goal, the oposition then kicks the ball back to you and then the game sarts again.  Would tell my players to get within shooting distance of the posts, and go for another drop goal.

For me, i tought todays game was pretty boring.  At least with Figi, Tonga, Samoa, Argentina,  they go for tries, and not rely on 3 points every time


That's just blatant SH bias because anyone who watches Rugby would be able to realise that Argentina do not play rugby with an expansive game looking for all their points through the wings.  They play a very tight front 8, kick for position more than they run etc.  They are less expansive than Wales, France and Ireland, probably most similar to England.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Lumps on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 19:16:26
Quote from: "mexico red"
i fucking hate people who use the phrase "the way rugby should be played"

why? fucking why does it have to be played like a cunting 7s match. the forwards are an integral part of rugby. dont see any problem in englands performance, they knew the strenghs of theor team and the weaknesses of australia. good fucking call.


And defence is an integral part of the game of football, but that didn't mean that George Grahams Arsenal side were as good to watch as Kevin Keegans Newcastle did it. Or that Macari's team was as good as Ossies.

England may have picked up a few tries without the Australian infringments, but trys scored by a bunch of fat arsed forwards grunting their way slowly up the field are the rugby equivalent of a scrambled Tony Adams goal from two yards out from a set piece. They all count the same but I'd much rather see a Tony Yeboah volley smack in off the underside of the bar from 35 yards, or a 10 pass cross field move from hand to hand between the backs ending in an overlapping winger nipping in at the corner thanks.

Surely to Christ you and Rob aren't blinkered enough to argue that todays Fiji/SA game wasn't about a dozen times more entertaining than England/Australia?


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Stef Troll on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 19:29:54
Well the Scotland Argies game is a pile of poo.  Another 2 teams who play long ball rugby.

Lets hope for a South Africa vs France final for the sake of the game


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 19:49:50
Are the Argies not going for tries then?  :D


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:07:47
Quote from: "mexico red"
i fucking hate people who use the phrase "the way rugby should be played"

why? fucking why does it have to be played like a cunting 7s match. the forwards are an integral part of rugby. dont see any problem in englands performance, they knew the strenghs of theor team and the weaknesses of australia. good fucking call.


Best post of the thread.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:10:49
Quote from: "StefPol"
Well the Scotland Argies game is a pile of poo.  Another 2 teams who play long ball rugby.

Lets hope for a South Africa vs France final for the sake of the game


Fuck the sake of the game, come on England. Couldn't give a rats arse about how pretty it looks as long as we win. Just the same as football.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:18:26
Scotland try


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Sussex on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:24:51
Quote from: "Rich"
Scotland try


I know they do, bless 'em  :P


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:29:41
Quote from: "Sussex"
Quote from: "Rich"
Scotland try


I know they do, bless 'em  :P


 :mrgreen:


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:39:45
Bye bye scotchland. I reckon argentina might do the saffies...


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:44:41
I reckon the winner of the England France game might win the whole thing. Just a hunch.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:44:41
I reckon the winner of the England France game might win the whole thing. Just a hunch.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 20:53:31
I've got a hunch that the winner of the England France game will have beaten the other team.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Luci on Monday, October 8, 2007, 11:02:15
I wanted the Scots to win as I favour all the home nations bar Wales if England aren't playing.

Argies don't play in any other competitions nationally Rugby wise and fair play to them coming out and getting this far.

England V Australia was superb and some people are bitter as their nations are just not up to scratch.  Even better as the aussies have been whinging for the last 4 years how we shouldn't have won back in 2003.  Up yours aussies, we've just proved you wrong again!


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, October 8, 2007, 11:13:50
I'm hedging my bets on an France v Argentina final.

I said right from the start that the Argies would be the dark horses of the competition and so far they've proved me right.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Luci on Monday, October 8, 2007, 11:17:23
I think we can beat the french, but it won't be easy.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Northern Red on Monday, October 8, 2007, 12:34:11
Quote from: "Samdy Gray"
I'm hedging my bets on an France v Argentina final.

I said right from the start that the Argies would be the dark horses of the competition and so far they've proved me right.


They're not really dark horses - they were ranked 6th in the world leading into the World Cup (ahead of England)

So quarter finals was expected - it's just the win over France that got them to where they are now (4th in the world).

I think they'll meet their match in South Africa and go down about 35-15.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, October 8, 2007, 16:18:12
I would love it if we beat the French. Half the people in my office are French (the other half is mainly Irish), there are 4 English though including one who has tickets for the semi final and the final (which he was going to put on Ebay after we got mullered by the Springboks)


Title: The Rugby
Post by: Foggy on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 09:59:28
Quote from: "Lumps"
Quote from: "mexico red"
i fucking hate people who use the phrase "the way rugby should be played"

why? fucking why does it have to be played like a cunting 7s match. the forwards are an integral part of rugby. dont see any problem in englands performance, they knew the strenghs of theor team and the weaknesses of australia. good fucking call.


And defence is an integral part of the game of football, but that didn't mean that George Grahams Arsenal side were as good to watch as Kevin Keegans Newcastle did it. Or that Macari's team was as good as Ossies.

England may have picked up a few tries without the Australian infringments, but trys scored by a bunch of fat arsed forwards grunting their way slowly up the field are the rugby equivalent of a scrambled Tony Adams goal from two yards out from a set piece. They all count the same but I'd much rather see a Tony Yeboah volley smack in off the underside of the bar from 35 yards, or a 10 pass cross field move from hand to hand between the backs ending in an overlapping winger nipping in at the corner thanks.

Surely to Christ you and Rob aren't blinkered enough to argue that todays Fiji/SA game wasn't about a dozen times more entertaining than England/Australia?




Have you ever played rugby? Thought not! The name of the game is to win. Englands greatest strength is built around the forwards who totally destroyed the aussie pack up front.Now let me think , Ireland,NZ,Oz, all teams that are supposed to play "entertaining" rugby are all on the plane home.


Title: The Rugby
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 11:02:29
It seems the All Blacks were a little upset by their World Cup exit

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22548504-5006067,00.html


Title: The Rugby
Post by: larwood on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 11:24:30
The All blacks make me laugh,they are such chokers,it was so predictable they'd lose on Saturday :soapy tit wank:


Title: The Rugby
Post by: McLovin on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 11:47:07
My uncle lives in New Zealand. Last world cup he had a bet with half his office that England would win the whole thing. Not a single person paid up, insisting that it didn' count as they never beat the All Blacks. From that day forth, I've always slightly disliked the Kiwis.