Title: Chinese GP Post by: Northern Red on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 07:06:12 New Race, new thread.
What a man - he's a had a rough week and he still goes and whams it on pole for tomorrow's Chinese GP. And more to the point Alonso got 4th - the two Ferraris are between them. :beers: Title: Chinese GP Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 07:35:02 I think I used to have an Indian GP
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 07:43:15 Quote from: "flammableBen" I think I used to have an Indian GP Mr Singh? Title: Chinese GP Post by: Luci on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 09:02:48 Thrilled by this, and loves the way he waits till the last race to get pole as well!
Come on Lewis, World Champion this weekend! :beers: Title: Chinese GP Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 09:29:30 Pole. Really the only thing (in my opinion) that will stop him now is a non finish e.g. an engine blow or something. Alonso may win the race but i can't see Hamilton finishing outside the top 3 which should just about be enough.
Title: Chinese GP Post by: lebowski on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 09:41:50 dont want to go overboard here, if 2, 3 and 4 are all heavy filled and hamilton is running light then he could easily find himself down in 4th after the first round of pit stops.
still, it was a very good lap. Title: Chinese GP Post by: Bushey Boy on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 09:49:02 What time is this tomorrow?
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 09:50:02 I bet this is the one time he gets car trouble
Title: Chinese GP Post by: lebowski on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 09:54:10 7am start i think?
might have to record that one. Title: Chinese GP Post by: axs on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 09:55:25 7am
and nice one Lewis, probably is running a bit lighter but hopefully he will get a clean start from pole and get on the podium. Title: Chinese GP Post by: Bushey Boy on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 10:26:08 Im driving to the do I have to go to tonight
7am - will never be up Title: Chinese GP Post by: Luci on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 10:27:04 If I can get up at 5.30 to see the Japanese GP you can surely make 7am.
Bloody GP band wagon jumpers :mrgreen: Title: Chinese GP Post by: Northern Red on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 12:08:24 Quote from: "lebowski" dont want to go overboard here, if 2, 3 and 4 are all heavy filled and hamilton is running light then he could easily find himself down in 4th after the first round of pit stops. Bear in mind that he only needs 4th anyway so that's fine - he's just gone light to avoid potential first corner disaster like being tagged by 5th/6th place or being bullied wide by Alonso etc... Raikkonen is going to win tomorrow, but that doesn't matter he needs a non finish from Lewis... Raikkonen 1st, Massa 2nd, Alonso 3rd and Lewis 4th means Lewis will be world champion tomorrow night with one race to go. Lewis is not going for the win tomorrow, he's going for a clean start and sensible 3rd maybe 4th place - good tactics from McLaren on a weekend when the Ferrari's look faster anyway. Title: Chinese GP Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 12:44:39 SKy+ is your friend. Wake up, watch it and ffwd the ads. Marvellous
Anayway that Alonso.... Quote World champion Fernando Alonso thinks he deserved to have been treated better by McLaren this season, as he angrily hit back at criticism from team boss Ron Dennis ahead of the Chinese Grand Prix. Having already conceded that his championship hopes were finally all but over, and clearly feeling his chances will not be compromised by criticisms of the team, Alonso launched an extraordinary outburst against his treatment by McLaren when speaking to Spanish reporters after qualifying for the Chinese Grand Prix. "I was expecting a lot more, we all were," Alonso said. "From the outside, the team had a different image: serious, but very professional. And I arrived here after two titles; I improved the car as much as I could. "Last year they were fighting to make it into Q3 and this year they are going to win the championship, and the truth is that the treatment has not been very good." When asked if the treatment he received was that deserved by a two-time champion, Alonso said: "Not a double champion, but a normal person." Alonso was also clearly unimpressed by claims from Dennis from earlier in the weekend, when the McLaren boss said he was disappointed by the Spaniard's failure to defend the team against suggestions of favouritism. "It's better to be silent than to lie, that's for sure," said Alonso about Dennis' remarks. "And that's something he should do more often and I think the team would do better. Many of the scandals McLaren have been involved in off the track this year have been created by his things. "Each one has his own philosophy, he has his, and we all understand it. I have spoken a lot with (David) Coulthard, with (Juan Pablo) Montoya, with Kimi (Raikkonen), and they have all left the team and found a lot of happiness. There must be a reason." The double world champion, whose future at McLaren is already in doubt, was also critical of Dennis's policy of equality at the team, although the Spaniard made it clear he had not been promised preferential treatment when he joined the team. "He (Dennis) didn't promise me anything," he said. "You are always hearing about that so called equality in the team, but tell me what you brag about and I'll tell you what you are lacking. "It's impossible to have equality in a Formula One team, there's always a better engine, a better lap to stop in, there's always a better option. "I'm not saying it's not equality, because sometimes it's one driver's turn and other times it's the other's, but you always hear him talk about that or promising things, and it's not like that." Alonso, who has a contract with McLaren for the next two years but is increasingly unlikely to see out the deal, confessed he is unsure if he will be at the team in 2008. "I don't know. What happens next year is another matter. All I know is that I have a contract here and we will see next year. There are 10 teams that could be interested in me. "I'm ready to do the best I can, to help the team, to have a good car and try to win races. But they ... things like what they say or do, or days like at Spa, or all the lies that they leak to the press, both British and German, to go against me. That, inside my own team...They have to do something to improve the situation." The double champion conceded, however, that teammate Lewis Hamilton will be a worthy champion if he becomes the first rookie to win the title. "I think so, I think he deserves it if he wins it in the end," Alonso added. "I think you have to know how to win and how to lose, and if I don't win this year it's because someone has scored more points than me, and if that's the case it's because he has done a better job." Alonso will start tomorrow's Chinese Grand Prix from fourth place while Hamilton secured his sixth pole of the season. The British driver needs to finish ahead of Alonso and Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen to clinch the title. Title: Chinese GP Post by: Northern Red on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 15:54:37 I really hope Alonso ends up at Toyota next year in a really uncompetitive car and gets beaten in every race by Trulli his new teammate.
Hamilton isn't really that sensational, Alonso with his head in the right place should actually be beating him now he's got the handling of the 'new' tyres and new car in the Mclaren. But he's spent more time moaning than trying to work out what he's doing wrong (driver error in Canada, driver error in Japan etc..) Title: Chinese GP Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 15:58:39 Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "flammableBen" I think I used to have an Indian GP Mr Singh? oh dear. Title: Chinese GP Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, October 6, 2007, 16:29:41 That took me a few minutes that did.
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 05:56:01 Go Lewis Go...
Looks like the rain is going to start just about when the GP starts... Title: Chinese GP Post by: axs on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 06:21:13 uggghhhhhhh. i hate mornings.
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 06:41:47 The commentry is quite frankly :chunder: Hamilton has united the country, ffs what a load of bollocks. There are 5 other drivers who would do the same given the same car. A better than average driver, but at the moment not much more
Title: Chinese GP Post by: axs on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 06:46:39 yawn.
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 06:49:29 I understand that they should be bias, we asre in england after all. but they never hyped Schumacher up as much as this guy
Its better to watch it with the sound off Title: Chinese GP Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 07:06:22 Bollox...Bloody tyres.
Time for fun and games in Brazil. Title: Chinese GP Post by: axs on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 07:13:59 unless alonso catches raikkonen and in a stupid overtaking move shunts them both off the track. :twisted:
Title: Chinese GP Post by: axs on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 07:16:41 Quote from: "Dachauer" I understand that they should be bias, we asre in england after all. but they never hyped Schumacher up as much as this guy Its better to watch it with the sound off They did hype Schumacher up all the fucking time - we were constantly barraged with their ass-licking comments about how he WAS the best in the world etc. he's retired. get over it. Title: Chinese GP Post by: Summerof69 on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 07:24:02 Quote from: "axs" unless alonso catches raikkonen and in a stupid overtaking move shunts them both off the track. :twisted: Now that would be funny... Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 08:03:45 I would think he would still win it unless he chokes
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 08:55:14 Lewis you fucking spatic, if a backmarker can overtake you again the tyres are fucked.
LH: 4 x wins, 5 x 2nds, 3 x 3rds : 107 pts FA: 4 x wins, 4 x 2nds, 3 x 3rds : 103 pts KR: 5 x wins, 2 x 2nds, 4 x 3rds : 100 pts Most likely perms: So Alonso win in Brazil (113), Hamilton HAS to finish second (115). A Kimi win (110) in Brazil with Alonso (111) second Hamilton HAS to finish fourth (112) or better. A Massa (??) win with Kimi (108) second and Alsonso third (109) Hamilton HAS to finish sixth (110) or better. A massa win with Alonso (111) second and Kimmi 3rd (106) Hamilton may have to finish 4th or better (112) (may get away with 5th, not sur eof the countback here) Title: Chinese GP Post by: Gelbfüßler on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 08:59:08 Well done Jenson 8)
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 09:09:29 Quote from: "Karlsruhe_Red" Well done Jenson 8) He did very well as did Vettel Title: Chinese GP Post by: Northern Red on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 09:21:30 :|
Title: Chinese GP Post by: lebowski on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 12:32:04 going into the last race with 3 possible championship winners, best season for a very long time.
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 12:32:09 Quote from: "Dachauer" I understand that they should be bias, we asre in england after all. but they never hyped Schumacher up as much as this guy Schumacher was no way near as good as this guy. He was ridiculously overhyped anyway, more than anyone ever. Not overhyped, are you serious?Its better to watch it with the sound off Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 13:41:40 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Quote from: "Dachauer" I understand that they should be bias, we asre in england after all. but they never hyped Schumacher up as much as this guy Schumacher was no way near as good as this guy. He was ridiculously overhyped anyway, more than anyone ever. Not overhyped, are you serious?Its better to watch it with the sound off :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: 154 podiums in 250 races 91 race wins 1369 career points 68 pole positions 7 World Championships One hell of an overhyped driver, oh how he would be lauded if he was british Title: Chinese GP Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 13:42:48 Nah, I still reckon BWB wouldn't have rated him if he was English
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 15:03:52 Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Quote from: "Dachauer" I understand that they should be bias, we asre in england after all. but they never hyped Schumacher up as much as this guy Schumacher was no way near as good as this guy. He was ridiculously overhyped anyway, more than anyone ever. Not overhyped, are you serious?Its better to watch it with the sound off :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: 154 podiums in 250 races 91 race wins 1369 career points 68 pole positions 7 World Championships One hell of an overhyped driver, oh how he would be lauded if he was british Title: Chinese GP Post by: walrus on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 15:11:47 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Quote from: "Dachauer" I understand that they should be bias, we asre in england after all. but they never hyped Schumacher up as much as this guy Schumacher was no way near as good as this guy. He was ridiculously overhyped anyway, more than anyone ever. Not overhyped, are you serious?Its better to watch it with the sound off :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: 154 podiums in 250 races 91 race wins 1369 career points 68 pole positions 7 World Championships One hell of an overhyped driver, oh how he would be lauded if he was british Jordan, Benetton? And I suppose the McLaren is on a par with Super Aguri? No doubt Hamilton's been superb this season, with the true yardstick being how he's doing vs. Alonso. It's far too early to be drawing comparisons with Michael Schumacher who was a true talent. The fact he was a master in the rain says it all.... Title: Chinese GP Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 15:20:25 He didn't win the title in a Jordan though, in fact he didn't even win any points for them. The Benetton was a good car, great engine, Johnny Herbert even got a couple of wins in it and he was not a great driver but you're right it is too early to compare. Hamilton has definitely had a more impressive debut season though and they never stopped going on about Schumacher.
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 7, 2007, 16:47:02 I get the feeling Hamilton will blow it on the last race :(
Title: Chinese GP Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, October 8, 2007, 16:09:06 My guess for the final positions next race:
Kimi Alonso Hamilton |