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Starts a 3 day trial today at Everton.I am a bit split on this of course it will be good to get some cash for our no2 keeper but imo he is streets ahead of Phil Smith.

Cash in, Smith is adequate

Disgusted at this .. should be starting for us .. Smith has done ok but there is no doubt that Brez is and should be number 1

and you can bet as soon as hes gone Smith will get injured

I'm outraged that we might try and sell a bench warmer for cash

I can see what your trying to say but he really should not be a bench warmer should he.

Hard to say really, Is he performing to the same standard as he was this time last year? I've not seen enough of brez to judge that.  And at the same time Phil Smith has done nothing wrong.

The thing is, with all this so called investment, why do we need to let our better players go for money?

There must be a reason big clubs are sniffing around Brez and not Phil Smith. Don't get me wrong, Smith has done brilliantly since he's become our new no. 1, but if we don't need any extra money, why sell Brez?

We still haven't kept a clean sheet season, despite or "solid" defense. Brez should be starting. If he's good enough for Everton FFS!?

exactly, it is unfair to drop a keeper if he hasn't made any mistakes

where did you hear about the trial macca? is it in the adver?

Luton Town at home, fumbles easy shot and just goes over the bar comes to mind.
Brez should be No. 1.

In the Adver Tans i knew on saturday but it was not definatly agreed til yesterday morning.

Hope he does well for them he is far too good to be sat on our bench.

Cheers macca.

I have to say i agree with you regarding the trial, could bring in some mch needed £££ with whats happening with the board. Im sure sturrock has an ex player of his thats a keeper available, so we can sign him  :wink: , as long as hes not french ill be happy  :mrgreen:

Funny you say that Tans as the french keeper could be a replacement

1 shot in wet conditions (that didnt go in) over the course of 7 games means he should be dropped.   :mrgreen:

You're too generous Dell Boy. Next time he shanks a kick into the Arkells stand I would haul him of there and then, hit him with a brick, fine him 2 weeks wages then transfer list his bald arse

Tart, just reply to the quote ' it is unfair to drop a keeper if he hasn't made any mistakes', it was a major mistake, you would not expect that from The Dog & Duck Pub Team.
Smith is a very good No. 2

You've not seen much pub football of late then Dell?  :D

brezovan's a better keeper than smith.

smith deserved to start the season as number one.

brezovan deserves a chance to prove himself to sturrock.

last season highlighted the importance of having two good 'keepers.

I run the Dog & Duck Football Club in my home town :soapy tit wank:

You forgot to shoot the fucker.

I would be mightily disspointed if he left

I don't think Smith should be dropped, but surely we should be looking at strength and depth?

Remember who the board is guys.....

Seling players- again.

Smith hasn't done anything wrong so really shouldn't lose his place.
Brez is too good to be a bench warmer,  so is Smith.

I'd be dissapointed to lose Brez, but I can't see how we can justify having two good keepers just in case.

Maybe it is better all round if we cash in on one. The only problem is Brez vauluation must have suffered by not playing. So we may not get his true worth (STFC in cheap sale shocker).

brez is the better keeper by a mile.the club are clearly cashing on on their prize asset as usual.
shame as we should be playing him and trying to succeed on the pitch.
smith, has played in a fairly succesfull team and his flaws have not really been highlighted yet.he doesn't really have to do alot.when he does the gulf in class will be so much more noticeable.

i'd make brez no1 and expect smith to request a move to another lower league club. as he has proven his worth at that level.
but money talks!

hmmm, all this business with a takeover and we are still wanting to sell players for some money.....sounds like just the thing to do.

Can you qualify this?

Fuck off you depressing cunt, Do you thrive on doom and gloom.You are the TEF dementor.

isn't barts point valid then foggy?

What a football club selling players to other higher league clubs? Not exactly a new thing is it?

We cant sell anyway surely till Jan- the window is closed

Smith looked dodgy on ocassions on Saturday. Won't be happy if Brez goes but if it pays the CVA then it pays the CVA.

Based on previous experience, that is a mighty big if...

And we cant sell till January anyway. Looks like we are stuck with the current regime :cry:

Don't jump to conclusions please Bart.

Wait and see then

I dont see why Sturrock doesnt give brez a go, I know people say Smith doesnt deserve to be droped but we are conceding goals, which means something isn't right, you cant say Smith is being faultless if he is letting in goals. Whats the harm in giving Brez a few leauge games here and there.

He is a class above the rest in that league,

I have stood by any move that luggy has made in the past but if this move goes ahead i wont be happy at all.

I've no problems with this as long as:

1. We get a proper fee for Brezovan (500,000 upwards)
2. A decent reserve keeper is acquired, not some kid

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Exactly.

Has anyone considered the fact that Brez is probably itching for a chance to make a go of it at a Premiership club?

Maybe if we blocked the move Brez would be mightily fucked off.

Exactly.

Has anyone considered the fact that Brez is probably itching for a chance to make a go of it at a Premiership club?

Maybe if we blocked the move Brez would be mightily fucked off.

The likelihood is a season long loan of whatever kiddy the team he signs for has available for loan...

agreed, but we dont seem to be doing anything to stop it, such as giving him a fist team opportunity, fuck if i was brez and playing in reserve games i'd be pissed off and want to move. luggy seems to base a lot of things on first impessions and doesnt seem to give people a chance.

I understand luggy got rid of some out field players as they didint match his style of play, cant use that exuse of the GK.

brez could and should have moved in august.
he didn't want to go

But was it to a premier league club?

No, foggy.  It was to a fucking norwegian sunday league club. What the fuck do you think  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

one deffo made enquirys,not everton.i was told brez didn't want to go anywhere yet and wanted to be no1 here

Blackburn

oh my god

I typed in s o u r c e and it came up as source

I take it Im the only one that didn't notice that before?  :?

cunt custard?

no type the word s o u r c e without the spaces

Just something I read on 606 about a month ago, it didn't state Brez, it said they were looking at a goalkeeper from the lower divisions who has great potential.

Ha ha, you've been flammabled. I'd have messed up too if it wasn't for the preview thingy.  :D

I thought this was related to Benjamins game  :D

Fuck off!

I will ask your mum the next time im in.

hahaha I did that ages ago. Awesome.

Smithy is better than most goalkeepers in this league (IMHO).

Brez could and should be playing at a higher level.

Sturrock shows loyalty to players, which is why so many of his old boys want to play for him at different clubs.

Smith has kept out loads more than he's been at fault for, so where's the justification in dropping him?

A good player going to a higher league team. What a fucking shocker...........

I thought it was West Brom that came in for Brez. Certainly not a premiershit club.

Hmmm and if Brezovan was playing, we wouldn't have conceded a single goal of course.

 :shock:

Only Tranmere, Yeovil, Carlisle, Forest and Leeds have conceded fewer goals.  :shock:

he's obviously agreed to go to everton on trial, and you really can't blame him for wanting to go there.

i wish him good luck and, like someone else said, hope we get £500k+ for him. and sign a backup for smith.

rhys evans is available...

which is why we are 7th, we should be 1st no reason we should not have won every game so far, but we are conceeding to many crappy late equalisers.

What ???

Come on then - lets blame Smithy.....

First goal at Northampton - not a bloody thing he could have done about it....

Cheltenham away - fantastic strike - no keeper would have got near it !

Crewe home - great volley - bugger all Smith could have done about it....

Hartlepool away - another good strike through a crowd of players that he could not have got to.....

There is no way Smithy can be blamed for any of these goals.....

Brez wouldn't have got near any of them either !!

I will. Just like the other 10 times when you were wrong on 8 occasions.

sorry for sounding like Bart here but you actualy think any money we get from the sale will go towards the purchase of another player? I think not.

OK, but i think brez controls his area better, and would have prevented some of the shooting oportunities the oposition got.

and Brez is must cooler than Smith, has a cool haircut and everything  8)

Judging from what Sturrock was saying the other day about the squad, we're about to have a fire sale, in other words any player who could command some sort of fee will be sold, and others shunted out if possible.  This would tie in very nicely with the take-over collapse.

Reg is the voice of sanity........................

Why is he ? He says what Bart does but takes longer to get to the point :D

I thought it was obvious I was being sarcastic :D

Sturrock did say he cant afford to keep the squad he has now....

 Hertab doesn't regard such statements as fact, therefore doesn't allow them to enter into his or anyone elses argument.

Come on children - calm it down  :D

Who knows what PS thinks about Brez ?  

To my knowledge he hasn't commented on it ?

Or..................


Herthab realises that all league clubs are limited on the amount they have to spend on players wages (As per league regulations) and therefore feels it might have more to do with that and less to do with any shit currently flying around................

His thoughts on brez are obviously in the team selection

  We saw something pretty similar last season, whereby one lot ie Bill P and Mark D, were telling Wise one thing....like get Ince, and the Diamandis Wills faction, were saying we've overspent by 600K.   So Ince has to go etc.

  Sturrock has said he doesn't know who he's talking to for decisions, but has no doubt taken what he's been told atr face value....the evidence points currently to retrenchment..

In fairness to Sturrock he never had the chance to play Brez last season and Smithy didn't let him down.

Loyalty is a rare commodity in football and when someone (Sturrock) is loyal to his players he gets slated.

Smith deserves his place on merit and Brez deserves first team football (Which is something he won't get this season at Everton)

I thought the squad wage cap (based on turnover) only applied to League 2 clubs. I thought league 1 clubs were allowed to overspend by as much as they like?

Seems to me as though somebody authorised an overspend, based on certain assumptions and are now needing to backtrack on that.


Do we have a nominated overspend scapegoat this year. Mark D have you got another job yet, fancy being fitted up for it?

edit: doh, Reg beat me to it!

He has not said that though reg he has always said he is dealing with the old board until told otherwise

Fucked if I know :D

Sturrock did say in the summer that he wanted a squad of 20-22 players this season though.

Does anyone know how many we currently have?

   This is what Sturrock had to say just before the deadline....

   

  That to me sounds like he's uncertain who is making decisions...has anything changed since then?

  If you want to think all is well....feel free.  Personally I see nothing to indicate that it is ther case and plenty to indicate trouble ahead.

It applies to league 1 as well. It isn't legally binding.

I dont feel all is well at all Reg far from it but i still have not seen any evidence that its definatly not going to happen.This is swindon town and no doubt it will all fuck up but what are we doing about it,FUCKALL, . Just spreading rumours and posting on the secret fucking squirel

I don't think all is well Reg, don't think anyone thinks that.

But I am still hoping something positive will happen.

Let me delude myself for a while longer.................

But we were told stuff like the takeover  had been completed ,contracts signed etc, when they don't seem to have been. The CVA would be paid in a matter of days...over a month ago and still not paid.

  The yak is an interesting animal, no mistake, technically the female yak is a nak, but we don't bother with the subtle translation from the Tibetan.

It's not that easy....he may well have wanted to play him but had to consider Phil Smith's position in terms of whether he has played well, let the team down, player-confidence etc.....what would it have said if after Smith's form last year that he was dropped the minute Bezovan became fit?

Bring back William Power

To be fair reg i was told 11 months ago that Bill p would be in charge and it was only a matter of time til mikey d etc would be gone and legal action would be taken against the current lot in charge

The most interesting and illuminating item in this whole thread is Reg's revelation concerning the female yak.

I've heard all the rest before..........................

he's a good player and if you want the team to progress you must have a good squad.

Having both Smith and Brezovan in the squad is good, and give us the depth we need inbetween the sticks

Under no circumstances should be give in and sell, that of course assuming we want to move forward.

Either that or do a swap deal and get John Ruddy down here.

   I'll hold my hands up to an error of judgement...the yak fact should have been in the Boardroom section not in Players....I just thought this was the Boardroon section.

Actually, the "overspend" only started being touted about after Mark D and Bill P had left the club. And Ince was also signed after then by the "Diamandis Wills faction" as you put it - if you remember there was a great song and dance about James Wills chipping in £60k of his own dosh to guarantee the deal with the League. It was only after he'd been here for a while and made little or no difference that they decided they couldn't afford him.

   As I recall James Wills dosh was to  honour the deal which had been set up by Wise thinking he was on the BP/MD budget....hence the song and dance when Wills chipped in.

  mark D didn't leave the club for some time after....although of course he was out of circulation.

at the end of the day when a club like Everton come in for our number 1 or 2 there is no way on earth we should stand in his way. regardless of cost and fee's.

brez has been quality for us in the short space of time he has been here.
yes he is (in my opinion) worth close to £1m (going by other players evaluation) and maybe we should hold out for a decent deal but at the end of the day the guy has had a hard ride in English football (broken arm) and deserves a decent crack at the whip and be allowed to move to try and take that chance. I'd rather it be with us but good luck to the guy if he moves.

TAKE THE MONEY TOWN, WE HAVE A QUALITY NUMBER ONE! WHAT A DEAL!

I though he'd be off to Leeds or somewhere for about 50p! :o

another thing thats been bugging me, if sturrock not having a sub keeper, its a dissaster waiting to happen

It seems to me that town fans are more interested in balancing the books than progressing on the pitch.Fuck that,we shouldn't be selling him.

 :goodpost:

Our back up keeper is Lee Peacock!



yup, thats the way I see it....

This may have been posted before, apologies in advance if I have missed it, but can we read anything into the fact that Little and Brevitt were missing on Saturday, rumours abound that all is not well with the proposed takeover and yet it would appear the the current board intend to sell one of our most saleable players.  Where would the money go is the question I would be asking if there was a line of communication to any of the board!!  No wonder there appear to be problems behind the scenes. :x

  Mmmm yak cheese.

What happened to Rais M'Bolhi the keeper on trial did he ever get a contract?

Mark D left the club in practice in September along with Bill and Phil. Just because it took months to sort out the arrangements makes no difference - Mark was never going to be going back to work as Chief Exec from September on.

I guess Sturrock will elaborate on this in his next update.

Needless to say I think it will be a shame if he goes. But Everton is a big club - nowadays you wouldn't prevent a player going to a big club for a trial - that is all it is.

If we had ambition we would not be selling him.

But hey we know the limit of the current regime- just staying in league 1

If you had one ounce of mystery to you you might be interesting.

But hey, we know your limit - only posting negative propoganda.

Depends what they do with the money ...

If the takeover falls through and they pay the CVA with it, I'd say that's an ambition - an ambition to stay in business.

Whoah people..........

He's gones for a trial thats all. He may not be signed, he may not impress. He's still a swindon player for now.

And if he has ambition he won't be satisfied with being a benchwarmer in L1. Nor will Phil Smith. Whichever regime it was, any club at this level would struggle to hold onto two 1st choice keepers with clubs higher up the food chain sniffing around them. There are many and various things the current (old?) board can and should be blamed for (and if Brez goes on the cheap fire-sale style just to meet wages etc that I would blame them for) but a good keeper wanting to try his hand at a Prem side is not one of them.

He's under contract and would have to lump it until that contracts up.Unless of course he has a release clause.

If a Prem Club comes in for him and we say no because he has a contract in place, it's unlikely that he's going to be playing at his best though is it? What would you do - keep him warming the bench or take the money and run. I know what I'd do.

I jump down the throats of the current board at every chance but can't see that they are doing any wrong in this instance. Not saying that any fee going into back-pockets is OK - that's another story altogether - but in terms of a bigger club coming in for one of our players, I can't see much wrong with that. It's what has happened since the year dot anyway so this is no different.

The contract in place in this instance simply means that we'll get a fee for him.

Remember when Bryan Smith and Alan Young had a trial with Celtic? That was amusing...

I cant see why it would make any difference to him.Hes out of contract next year anyway isnt he,if hes good enough now he'll be good enough then.I dont  care about any fee,my job isnt to balance the books,my job is to want as strong a team as possible.

I thought he had the rest of this season and then next season on his contract ?

This being the case I would wait for Smithy to slip up, stick him in and then we should be able to achieve more money for him next summer......

Plus we get 2 good keepers for the rest of the season......

Well can anyone blame Brez for going to a Prem team when he isn't even making it into the starting 11 here? I can't.

Just one point that was made early in this thread...Smith is our number one and therefore supposedly better than our number two. Why should a prem club sniff at our number two but no-one be interested in our number one?

I'm concerned any player is being sniffed. What a bizarre thing to do.

I believe we're making a mistake using smith over brezovan. Perhaps its being done becuase Brezovan was going to be sold all along? Im not being negative, just trying to point out some realistic business sence.

did you dream this or did it really happen

you are spot on

i was thinking the same sonic, if that happened the celtic manager at the time needs shooting. Was it John Barnes at the time? shittest manager celtic had i reckon.

It was Dalgliesh - he invited them to have dinner with him.  Smith was supposed to be a very hot prospect at the time, needless to say it was before Alan Young had shown how bad he really was.

http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2000/4/14/247722.html

what a strange world we live in

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_2758753,00.html

Two million according to the Scotchman on Sky Sports.

£2m would be good business and another kick in Wise's nuts as Brez came here as a favour he called in.

In a footballing sense I would hate for him to go, but putting aside any boardroom shenanigans, if half that money is used on the team we could easily be pushing for promotion imo.

Dogliesh need you say anymore

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145787&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145780&contentPK=18517662&folderPk=100269&pNodeId=145803

A six figure sum wouldn't be quite as good. Especially as some of that would be based on appearances one would assume

£50k it is then.... :|

 :soapy tit wank:

If we get 2m for him so what?  Wheres the money going to end up?  :?

Probably in the pocket of someone it shouldn't be in.

Well we all know Jim Little and Co want to sell players to make a profit. We also know that if the takeover is going to collapse we need to pay the CVA. If the current board had any sense he would be going for 1 mill so we can pay it. Or perhaps this is being used as a solution to the possible disagreement  over the takeover in which Jim Little and Co supposidly do not want to pay the CVA.

as si said, if it was guaranteed that all the money went back into buying players etc, then i guess i could live with that, but thats not gonna happen