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Anyone tried these?

I'd give them a mark out of ten.  I'm not sure what that mark would be, but it would definately be out of ten.

Also, I think 'herbal' might be a slightly inappropriate tag for these things.  They've got more chemicals in than a bottle of SunnyD.  I gave one to my old man for his 60th and he said he enjoyed it, so I'm thinking about procuring a little MDMA.  Not sure what effect this would have on someone with more illnesses than you can shake a stick at.  Any thoughts?

??????what are they?

Basically they're legal Ecstasy pills.  The ones from New Zealand are supposed to be good, because they can't be sold in England.  They keep you up for a long while and they destroy your appetite, that's about the only similarities I can find to be honest...

are they the ones sold in sex shops?
if so tried them about 15 years ago,they just brought me out in a rash for about an hour.legal e's they were touted as back then.

Supposedly they've got alot better over time, recommended by a friend at Glastonbury(although they could have just brought him back up on whatever else was in his system, and they weren't the exact same ones)  Thing is, although pills are shit these days they cost less than these things, not sure if there are any better ones about.

MDMA it is.

loads of information on mdma here to consider before giving it to your pa

http://erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

this article about someone with cancer taking mud may be of particular interest

http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v09n1/09156for.html

little bit on herbal e here

http://erowid.org/smarts/herbal-e/herbal-e.shtml

 Not much good for someone who likes sleeping and eating then.

My old dealer was always in mess, mainly on MDMA. It kinda put me off doing any harder drugs.

but reg, when you're done 'tripping' the getting into bed feeling is amazing. and the next day you can gorge yourself on three massive meals which taste great.

 Don't start me on tripping

isn't mdma pure ecstacy though?
so i would have thought they would have been better than e's as there would be no shit mixed in with them?

i wouldn't agree with that. just have to watch out for the really speedy ones. i've never not had a great time though, apart from in spain recently when i got a bit paranoid off some very strong ones.

yes md is basically pure e (assuming your scummy dealer hasn't cut it, and the batch was good in the first place), comes as a powder/crystals. but its different to the herbal highs of which amir talks.

out of interest.i saw a programme with a bloke in who couldn't move and had a crippling illness.(possibly ms or similar)
he took ecstacy and then could do somersaults and rolls ect.

there's no mdma in legal pills and mdma itself certainly isn't legal. I think he was considering mdma as an alternative to both of these.

Thatnks, OF, that information was very helpful.  My dad's not terminal or anything, he just has about every illness you could think of without keeling over.  In the last few years he's become alot more open to the idea of trying drugs(I've been getting him herb to help his deep-vein-thrombosis for years), and I think a few experiences on drugs like I've felt might do him some good.  

He suffers deeply from depression and stess, and to my mind a few illegal drugs could do him more good than the unrelenting supply of alcohol that keeps most people in depression going on.

Pills are shit these days though :advercool:

only bit to be weary about with him and md would be the comedown (what with his depression), but unike pills you shouldn't get much of one with good mud.

Heh.

Pills did used to be completely different to what they are now,its a shame it really is.

Trouble is you sound like a right old twat saying that 8)

how are/were they different?

They didn't have all the crap mixed in them, so they were more like pure MDMA than the (supposedly pure) MDMA you get now.

Well..

one or two was enough and you didnt feel monged you felt great sort of clear headed and wonderfull.

Last time I did some (a years or so ago) I took my mates expensive Huskey for a walk and lost it and stood in a river in Moredon trying to hale a Taxi. :D To be honest as with most drugs you are trying in vein to recreate that first time.

ah i see. you can still get pretty pure pills, but they're rarer and quality (mdma purity) tends to vary considerably from batch to batch. still guaranteed to get you off your rocker mind, its just you may feel the after-effects of the speed/k/crack they've mixed in the day after.

pure mdma is easy to come by and much more tolerable, apart from rotting your brain that is.

That's everyone's problem with cocaine.  It's shit really, it just gives you a nice buzz plus you feel in control.  That crap is everywhere nowadays and people lap it up because it means they can keep on drinking.  I wouldn't mind so much if I was somewhere it was worth staying up, but a shitty room in the upstairs of a pub? why bother?  £50 a gram too :soapy tit wank:

I like the thought of me,Spacey,Mex and Amir sitting around a Wetherspoons in 2025 moaning that drugs arent as good as they used to be :D

I went to the Groves before the Legends game ,2 old folks had a row about one of them being to old to wear jeans 8) The little old fella said to his mate "I'll fucking chuck you over that cunting wall you prick"

He ruled 8)  8)  8)

That made me laugh :soapy tit wank:

three should be enough to keep you raving all night if you've not done them for an extended period of time/aren't an idiot. doing more than that has a limited effect other than making you feel extra rotten the next day.

is that a true story!? do you mean you lost the dog, or the plot!?

agree about the recreating the first time thing, one of my mates is perpetually trying to get that first time rush every day, which i think is why he got onto k - it messes you up so much every time it almost feels like the first time. thankfully he's gone to america to be worked to the bone as a volunteer on a tiny allowance and get off the drugs.

Ba-ding, you can drink without really getting drunk! You can keep going.  Just tell yourself you're having a great time and you're half way there :D

Nearly all my mates are sniffing on a constant night/day out basis.Its not for me if im honest..mainly cos of expense.I prefer sitting at home getting wankered these days,which frankly worries me just as much :D

Hmmm this thread make me wanna try some pills again...just in case :shock:

Pills are still shit, don't wonder any more.  Cocaine is the drug of the imbecile, there is no other way to put it.  People take it because it lets them keep the party going(even if it's a shit party on a week night), and after a while they think they need it.  Stupid cunts.  Most of the stuff you get around these parts is so cut it's ridiculous.  People will tell you it's not(Oh no, he's got some good stuff), my arse.  

The only good stuff I've ever had was from the West End, and while it knocked the shit out of everything I've had since, it still doesn't do much for you.  It's so prevenlent now large numbers of our generation will waste their lives on cocaine, and I'll bet you not one of them will have good things to say about it in the end.  

Drinking will fuck you up, but it costs less :smile1:

Herbal highs? Waste of money more like.  Pills? Just so full of shit they're not worth it.  For 4 quid and a double drop, it's the cheapest night you'll get though. Cocaine is overated and expensive, but If you've got any, I'm happy to share it with you :mrgreen:

Say no to drugs kids.

The best Cocaine i've ever tried was in the Florida Keys. Cut straight off a massive block right in front of me and only $8 a gram. He gave me the first gram for free as well! What a honeymoon.

They are called Party pills in NZ and all the kiddies are taking them. You can buy them in shops on the high street.  8)

Drugs are bad.

You should treat your bodies with respect.

Fuck! I'm down to my last fag, I'll have to go out in a minute to get some more.

Might as well buy some booze while I'm there..............................

Totally agree with that, mugs game really, all for a laugh and gives you a buzz but always chasing that one brilliant time

bushey boy you gimp that's what I told you years ago. I was bang at the drugs everything and every time i was mashed i would get a lecture from old bushey boy about the eveils of drugs!!!!! ha ha

drugs are good everyone should take drugs!

ha ha, true but you did overdo it!

I actually think drugs are brilliant! The best thing ever in fact.

but only whilst you're on them :D

Picked a few bits and pieces from this place at Glasto this year...

http://www.herbalhighs.com

The cheaper stuff is just Guana which keeps you awake and mutilates the appetite but the more expensive stuff gives you a nice gentle buzz.  Nothing that compares to the real thing so it’s not worth looking at them as a legal replacement but it gave what I would best describe as a warm fuzzy glow to the evening.

Fuck off pills are amazing today, years ago they must have been bliss (I was gunna say ectasy...   :?  ) on a stick.  Last time I took pills I spent two hours looking at my hands, opening and closing them and facinated by the talking green goo that seemed to cake my hands....

Aren't the impurities what gives you the hallucinations?  I've only tried MD once but the effect was akin to that of about 5 Red Bulls....  Bit dull really.

Having said that it can all go wrong....  Whiteying on pills is one of the most terrifying experiences I have ever endured....   :|

pills when they came on the scene were not always great.you got shit ones sometimes then same as today,but paid more for them.having said that i very rarely had a bad batch.but they did varie in strengh and effects.

i last did one about 3-4 years ago and i could hardly walk.i was well used to dropping 4-5 on a night out years ago.
basically saying they were better back then is bollocks imo.

I took LSD once, about 20 odd years ago, to see what it was like.

Unfortunately (Or fortunately!) my experience was very, very bad.

Spent 8 hours terrified by hallucinations that shit me right up!

Stuck to the weed after that :D

have to admit the thought of my children doing stuff like i did fills me with dread.
i had great fun but it has its risks

fuck me, the town end has a load of messy people

There are good and bad pills. Purple hearts are the ones to look for. Rare as fuck but I guarantee you.. within ten minutes of taking them i was crying with laughter in the vic surrounded by half naked women. It was amazing. I've never had them since. Never seen or heard of them since :(

I reckon pills are the same as they've ever been. People complaining that they aren't as good any more are just looking for there first high again. As Redgewell says, the quality is going to vary. I can't imagine that was any different 10-20 years ago. Not that I know really, nobody ever wants to sell me any, I just pick stuff up for free.

It's a bit like the opposite of what's happening with weed. Old people go on about how it wasn't as strong in their day. Probably true if you're going for the  dark sparrow spider super smelly stuff, but if you're average person who gets an 1/8th for £20 from a mate; then it's clearly not any stronger. It's just the older generation trying to excuse themselves for taking it when they were young, whilst at the same time telling youngsters they can't do the same.

Just to add to Red81's post, the best pills about at the moment are small, slighty red, stars. Last time i did some i took 2 and was absolutely spannered for well over 10 hours. They were fucking ace!

a bit of impurity in the old beans can be good if you want a messy high, md is a bit too controlled and focussed.

i had some chanels at the end of uni, best ones i've ever had.

skunk is definitely stronger now, due to the advanced growing techniques and chemicals used en masse in its cultivation. blow your head off stuff.

i really enjoyed mushrooms, the whole thing from picking too sitting in my room looking at the wallpaper with my mates for what seemed like endless hours. however the come down is a grinding 1 thought process.

Best thread I've read for ages!   :D

Hmmm.. small slightly red stars you say? I'm due a head fucking.

i think they are still kicking about, the usual suspects can grab them.

is that Ty, Irish?

no idea what you're on about...

I'm asking the forum member, Irish, if that is Ty in his picture. Bit clearer?

much.

Just say no kids

You will not succeed in school,
If you think that drugs are cool.

They can hurt your friends and you,
I'm not lying this is true!

If you're asked to take a sniff,
Be assertive, not scared stiff!

Say, "I'm sorry, but I shan't,
I would rather eat eggplant!"

If you drink and then you drive,
Someone's life you may deprive!

Smack makes you high,
If you take it, you can die!

If you want to take steroids,
Don't, because you'll be destroyed!

Now you've seen my point of view,
I choose no drugs, but do you?

Ok then. how's about a legal version of acid that you smoke that lasts about 10 minutes?

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

And here's where you can get it from by mail order. It's only £9.99 for a bag.

http://www.herbsworld.co.uk/index.php?cPath=28&osCsid=817883a8caa24dab5fa2d7d94f176f40

yeah mate its ty one of the best uk mc's in the uk. Tonight im off to see the perverts and killa kella gonna be sound

kila kela is boring, but worth seeing once. ty is heavy, and very good live. scratch perverts are solid as fuck, superb dj's.

I had some crack last night. It was ace. I want more.

I've pmed you my number ;)

The thing is, what's a definition of a "good" pill?  I mean are hallucinations or weird trips a sign of a good or bad pill?

I had some fucked up hallucinations which were really funny and made my night really enjoyable - at one point I felt like I was outside my body looking down at me and my friends dancing.  The weird thing was that I could actually see myself dancing, and somehow it was me, but I wasn't inside of me.

Never again.

 :|

yep killa kella was borin no effort at all just a tiny bit of beat boxin and mostly mc'in over radom records.  Also it was nice to see that the smokin ban does not apply to anyone smoking skunk on a boat/club