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I can' t believe I just saw what I just saw.

Alonso backed Hamilton up in the pits meaning Hamilton missed his last flying lap and possible pole position (probable given he looks lighter than Alonso).

It looked very much as if it was Alonso's own idea. The mechanics were 'ready' and the lollipop was up for several seconds (5 or more) before he cleared allowing Hamilton to pit.

If there was an 'order' to Alonso, it  certainly wasn't part of Ron Denis plan as evident by his immediate reaction!

To snafu your team mate is THE cardinal F1 sin, even if it isn't technically against the rules.

All adds up to again showing that Alonso is not the 'talent' he is portrayed to be.

snafu  :?

Agree though, total arsewipe. the sort of thing  a certairn M.shoe-maker used to do.....

Saw that earlier, surely a few crossed words will follow. Cheeky fucker.

Typical. Alonso is using every trick in the book to try get back the lead in the championship. Hopefully Mclaren will be pissed off and give priority to Hamilton

The body language of Lewis at the press conference said everything.

Alonso has in effect paid the ultimate compliment to Hamilton - 'if I can't beat you on the track then...'

I didn't see the incident, but it sounds as though Alonso's move is somewhat Michael Schumacher-esque.  Unfortunately, whether we like it or not, "professionalism" is prevalent in many of todays modern sports as competitors try every last trick to get that elusive edge.  Technically speaking, what Alonso has done is not outside the rules, and therefore can only be deemed fair.  Kudos to him for thinking up such a cunning tactic.  Part of Schumacher's brilliance was being able to think outside "the box".  E.g.:  Silverstone, when he completed a stop-go penalty on the final lap therefore minimising the time lost driving through the pits...

Having said that, I hate the Spanish prick and I hope Hamilton nails him into the first corner tomorrow...   :evil:

The stewards are apparently looking at it, but I wouldn't expect action

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61353

BMW ahead of a Ferrari :beers:

If it's not against the rules there's not a lot they CAN do unfortunately!

Didn't Schumacher get penalised for supposedly parking his car last year?  Wasn't it at Silverstone?

r4e: Alonso has been relegated 5 places, Hamilton will start on pole. McLaren will not be able to score constructors points.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6929333.stm

rules are rules, team mate or not. Still surprised though!

I say fair play to him.

Boooo

who, alonso? piss off, that was disgusting and unsporting. it was a ken bates move in a formula one world.

He wasnts to win and to win at any cost, nothing wrong with that.

i agree. these kids are racers and anything that puts the competition to their advantage should be aplauded.

however that's spelt.

yes there is, he's a cheating cunt. i don't like it. if it was the other way round i would think less of hamilton as a person.

Its only cheating if he breaks the rules...as i understand it he didnt do that.

fortunately the FIA saw it and he will start 6th. cheating cock sucking cunt.

there are principles in sport that make it sport and he broke them. he was an outright cunt and deserves everything he gets.

Is he really starting 6th?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6929333.stm

5th, not 6th, my mistake.

axs is soft.

proven above.

'scuse me??

Yes, axs you big girl!

big girls, we are beautiful!

:mrgreen:

although according to this he's 6th?

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_2640433,00.html

it states on the bbc that he is moving 5 places down, so he will start 6th

it also states on the bbc listing that he is 5th (bottom of page) but i think they just cocked up and he will be 6th.

Bloody BBC

they normally get it right, and i suspect by the morning they will have corrected it, i'm on the bbc site pretty much every day and they get most things right.

DO NOT START ME OFF ON ALONSO

yeah, i've done that one. sorry about the c word and all.







but he is.

ponces

spaniard.

I suppose you consider wheel spikes that punctures opponents tyrels cheating as well

i hate it when you puncture my tyrels.

oh no I made a typo!

it's the end of the world! now it's the pedants turn to rule, yay!

coonts

Fuck me do the FIA only serve to satisfy the fans?  I'd like to see how their case would hold up in court?  He did fuck all wrong.

I still hate the sideburned tosser.

He did wrong, read the rule, there is no stipulation that holding someone up doesn't count if it is your team mate. They applied the same rule to Schumi parking it at Monaco a year or two ago (amongst others).

Surprised they are not allowing McL to score constructors points though. Presumably they saw this as the F1 equivalent of "bringing the game into disrepute'

silly boy Alonso, no need to do it as long as he was in front of Hamilton on the grid (legally) there was no way he would be overtaken

Just seen him interviewed and despite everyone telling him to get the fuck out of the pit, he thought it best to sit there listening to an engineer counting down in his ear piece before he moved off. Lame.

thats the point - he wouldn't have been in front - lewis would have spanked him had been able to get a lap in.

maybe, maybe not. We will never know now

You've also neglected to add the piece that Golden Balls Hamilton deliberately ignored McLaren's qualifying strategy in Q3, allegedly (according to Ron Dennis) putting the whole team out of synch during the session.

I certainly do not condone Alonso's tactics, especially when it was proven that he sat in the pit box, with Hamilton behind him, for 10 seconds AFTER the lollipop was raised. IMO that was a deliberate action by Alonso alone, and he deserved the punishment from the stewards.

Anyway, race is run now and Golden Balls won, so everyone will be happy then...

I get fed up of hearing about him, and everybody jumps on the "F1 is great bandwagon" whereas before most said it was boring :roll:

I think I should have added an emoticon in that last post. Like  :roll:

Ermm, it is fucking boring.

You're just pissed cos 'Super Aryan Man' is no longer boring everyone to death.............

For sure F1 isn't boring

Says the man who reckons Pook won't win player of the season

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Dare you to drive one of them bad boys and then tell me it isn't 'boring'.

Well isn't that a surprise.

I love F1 purely because of Hamilton. I reckon he's the best F1 racer car driver since Matt Shoemacker.

I would imagine it would be very exciting to drive a F1 car.

Watching F1 however is one of the most boring ways to spend a sunday afternoon (Most of the time) :mrgreen:

I don't necessarily condone what Hamilton did by going against orders, but he was nowhere near as much of a prick as Alonso. Thankfully Alonso didn't even make it onto the podium.

As for penalising McLaren as a team I think that is a joke, its not like they got any unfair advantage over the competition through Alonso's actions

I got bored and watched German Touring Cars instead  :D

Correct. Hamilton should be severely bollocked for disobeying team orders. Alonso should be severely bollocked for his hissy fit waiting in the pits. Interesting to see how Ron sorts it out. In his post race ITV interview who was he claiming  didn't think they had equipment parity with the other driver, presumably Alonso?

The stewards enquiry results are here and clarifies the explanation the team gave them:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61373

Stepneygate, feuding teammates, it sure is a million time more interesting than the on the track action.

This is just the typical attitude of this country unfortunately, happened briefly after the Rugby World cup, happens every tournament England are in, happened with the Ashes win......the list goes on.

As soon as an England do well in any sport thousands jump on the bandwagon and as soon as anyone does anything borderline or heaven forbid beat the English guy we instantly label them a cheating cunt. Alonso shouldn't have done what he did and neither should Hamilton, Alsonso's move was probably direct retalliation so was an internal matter not something the FIA should have got involved in.
For things such as this the FIA stewards should only investigate if a complaint is received from a team. No complaint was made so its just a case of the stewards poking their nose into somewhere it doesn't belong probably due to public and sponsor pressure.

If Hamilton had did it despite what people on here have said they would have been saying how clever it was. Then when punished everyone would say what an injustice it was and complaining the FIA are bent etc.

As I said it was an internal matter, no complaint was made...the FIA had no no real reason to get involved! They also don't have any real proof that what Alonso did was deliberate so the old saying innocent until proven guilty seems to not apply....

 :o  What channel was that on?! That's actually the best racing ever.

Some old classics like Alesi, Hakinen and Frentzen have been in it recently.

Think it was SS3, Mika Häkkinen was driving. The cars seem to get wider every time I watch it and are now only about an inch off the ground!

Only Audi and Mercedes in it now I believe. They seem to make the cars out of paper too, a tiny bit of contact and a load of bodywork comes off.

Still utterly awesome

usually on motors or eurosport,