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Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Rossi on Monday, May 21, 2007, 19:54:49
Some very vague details, but details nonetheless.  I don't know how reliable this source is so I'm not sure if it's accurate or not.  The 18gb storage thing seems a bit mental
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-40800.aspx


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Rossi on Monday, May 21, 2007, 20:08:51
Also there is rumours that the game will be "three times better on the PS3", I guess that means in terms of graphics?  Three times seems quite a lot, so will be interesting to see how it turns out


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: kaufman on Monday, May 21, 2007, 20:24:24
as someone said on those comments on the link

games on the ps3 at the moment are ported from the xbox 360 and its hard to port them onto the ps3.

but ps3 games are easily ported onto the xobx as its easier to programme so graphics should be the same and not much in it

the problem xbox might have is that it can only hold so much on a disk where as sony has the blueray and more room on their disks so the xbox version may not have as much content ie teams stadiums e.t.c.

im playing pro evo online for the xbox 360 at the moment and gettting my arse whipped big time

everyone just used inter or brazil as adriano is the best player in the game im told


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Scot Munroe on Monday, May 21, 2007, 20:26:35
Release date 26/10/07.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Rossi on Monday, May 21, 2007, 20:27:42
Will it be possible for people playing on PS3 to play online against people using xbox 360? That would be ace!


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: STFC_Manc on Monday, May 21, 2007, 22:03:24
Quote from: "Rossi"
Will it be possible for people playing on PS3 to play online against people using xbox 360? That would be ace!


That would be good, but I very much doubt it!  As they use two different systems.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Monday, May 21, 2007, 23:35:40
I cannot wait for this game. I just hope I can afford a PS3 by October


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, May 21, 2007, 23:38:05
Pro Evo is getting as bad as fifa with it's slight changes every year. It's still better but surely the cycle of the best fooball game must move on again soon

Kickoff then Sensi then fifa then proevo. I wonder what's next.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Monday, May 21, 2007, 23:44:09
Quote from: "flammableBen"
Pro Evo is getting as bad as fifa with it's slight changes every year. It's still better but surely the cycle of the best fooball game must move on again soon

Kickoff then Sensi then fifa then proevo. I wonder what's next.
I can't see there being a new football title that can topple pro evo in the near future. I've been playing ISS/Pro evo titles since the Snes originals and nothings come close imo.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, May 21, 2007, 23:50:24
That's sort of the point though, Sensi was considered unbeatable and then fifa came out ('96) not sure what year was the original but the invisible wall cheat and being able to do the fireworks when you scored was ace.

You have to admit that Pro Evo is starting to go round in circles of improvements. They've got the gameplay spot on for this generation of football games, and apart from the occasional tweeks they can't improve it that much. I'm convinced that there's the possibility  of something radical. Like the step up from sensi to fifa but the next-next gen jobby.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Monday, May 21, 2007, 23:53:23
Quote from: "flammableBen"
That's sort of the point though, Sensi was considered unbeatable and then fifa came out ('96) not sure what year was the original but the invisible wall cheat and being able to do the fireworks when you scored was ace.

You have to admit that Pro Evo is starting to go round in circles of improvements. They've got the gameplay spot on for this generation of football games, and apart from the occasional tweeks they can't improve it that much. I'm convinced that there's the possibility  of something radical. Like the step up from sensi to fifa but the next-next gen jobby.
(fifa came out 94)Yeah i agree. That is the thing you're right, Pro Evo can't really improve greatly anymore. I just cant fathom them creating anything better, but I look forward to the possibillty


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 05:05:39
Quote from: "Rossi"
Also there is rumours that the game will be "three times better on the PS3", I guess that means in terms of graphics?  Three times seems quite a lot, so will be interesting to see how it turns out


Of course it will  :roll:  

Funny considering that in the games that have been compared to the xbox360 the results have been neck and neck in terms of graphics.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: pfi5h on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 08:13:41
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "Rossi"
Also there is rumours that the game will be "three times better on the PS3", I guess that means in terms of graphics?  Three times seems quite a lot, so will be interesting to see how it turns out


Of course it will  :roll:  

Funny considering that in the games that have been compared to the xbox360 the results have been neck and neck in terms of graphics.


Us Xbox360 owners hear that all the time yet some games are actually better on the 360.

Lets hope the online play improves, oh and that 18gig is just a load of rubbish by PS3 fans. That argument comes up with every new game.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 08:37:44
as for cross-console gaming, there's a game coming out on 360 and the PC that can be played online against eachother, but i cant remember what its called  :oops:


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 09:10:24
Quote from: "pfi5h"
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "Rossi"
Also there is rumours that the game will be "three times better on the PS3", I guess that means in terms of graphics?  Three times seems quite a lot, so will be interesting to see how it turns out


Of course it will  :roll:  

Funny considering that in the games that have been compared to the xbox360 the results have been neck and neck in terms of graphics.


Us Xbox360 owners hear that all the time yet some games are actually better on the 360.

Lets hope the online play improves, oh and that 18gig is just a load of rubbish by PS3 fans. That argument comes up with every new game.
I'm getting a sense of deja vu here. The age old Sega vs nintendo war. Back in the day anyone who owned a sega console would swear that their machine was the bollocks and were adamant that games were just as good graphically, etc, etc. when in reality the Snes pissed on it from a great height. Sonic the whathog?? Fact is you 360 boys out there (which is most of you i feel  :? ) you've got the sega console in the fight there fellas. The PS3's release titles are just basically straight ports from xbox360 games hence why they look neck and neck graphically. If you admit this defeat now, you'll be less disappointed in a year or so when the PS3 steps up to a gear the 360 won't be able to match.



 :wink:


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 09:19:58
Ben, i read on IGN.com yesterday that Sony have been caught TWICE using project gotham racing screen shots to promote the PS3 and gran turismo 5.

fingers crossed blueray goes the same way as betamax :P

reviews i've read have said the online section of the games on the ps3 have been none too impressive, as well as the actual system being a bit shit, alot less easy to use than xbox live.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 09:28:29
PCs pwn all. w00t!


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 09:30:11
Are there any online championship manager games i can play without having to fucking pay?


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 09:34:39
Quote from: "Leggett"
Ben, i read on IGN.com yesterday that Sony have been caught TWICE using project gotham racing screen shots to promote the PS3 and gran turismo 5.

fingers crossed blueray goes the same way as betamax :P

reviews i've read have said the online section of the games on the ps3 have been none too impressive, as well as the actual system being a bit shit, alot less easy to use than xbox live.
I was reeling I hope you see. I've been content with sony's machines over the last ten years. Except for the fact i had to replace my PS1 twice and my PS2 once :twisted:  I'm actually a little concerned about the PS3 though, I know it's very early days but there's a few early warning signs. Blueray for a start. Why bring out your own format when i believe hddvd formats are gonna be the main big gun. Also, because of blueray (i don't quite know all the details), the uk release date was held back. Then when they finally release the machine, not only does it cost an arm and leg at rrp, but they remove whatever it is that lets you play your old PS1/2 games on it to save costs!! SONY!!?? This is Sony! not fucking bettys electrics. All a bit of a weak start for my liking. They have announced a download update so you can play 'some' old games now, but not everyone has the internet.

There's probably a load more issues i'm sure...

I still won't buy a 360 though even if the PS3 by some impossible happening, flops. Sony will counteract the teething problems. I have faith.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: pfi5h on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 09:53:57
Quote from: "Redgewell"
I'm getting a sense of deja vu here. The age old Sega vs nintendo war. Back in the day anyone who owned a sega console would swear that their machine was the bollocks and were adamant that games were just as good graphically, etc, etc. when in reality the Snes pissed on it from a great height. Sonic the whathog?? Fact is you 360 boys out there (which is most of you i feel  :? ) you've got the sega console in the fight there fellas. The PS3's release titles are just basically straight ports from xbox360 games hence why they look neck and neck graphically. If you admit this defeat now, you'll be less disappointed in a year or so when the PS3 steps up to a gear the 360 won't be able to match.



 :wink:


Dont get me wrong i expect to see an improvement in a years time from the PS3. We are seeing 360 games getting better in its life cycle so i expect the same from the PS3.

Admitting defeat in graphics, not yet.  :D

The Sony hype machine is trying to suck us all in. I’m happy with my 360 and its online play.

We will have to wait and see what the ps3 brings to the table. At the moment they have come with empty pockets.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:04:40
Quote from: "pfi5h"


Dont get me wrong i expect to see an improvement in a years time from the PS3. We are seeing 360 games getting better in its life cycle so i expect the same from the PS3.

Admitting defeat in graphics, not yet.  :D

The Sony hype machine is trying to suck us all in. I’m happy with my 360 and its online play.

We will have to wait and see what the ps3 brings to the table. At the moment they have come with empty pockets.
Yep true. I havent really paid any attention to the hype as it's the standard marketing/advert shite everything gets but, I will get one in the future. October sees the release of Grand Theft Auto IV and Pro Evo 7 so I can't really see me not forking out for one.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:12:43
I've been a Sony man for many a year, from the days of the original PSX up to the PS2. Then Sony released the PS3 and it just didn't interest me, kept getting put back and then there's the cost as well. So I bought an Xbox 360 instead and I've not been dissapointed.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:15:01
i think i'll stick to my PC and my online gaming 8)


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:29:34
I'm happy with my ancient PC and new gamecube.... and I really should stop reading the tef and go to work.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:37:05
Quote from: "flammableBen"
I'm happy with my ancient PC and new gamecube.... and I really should stop reading the tef and go to work.
Buy Zelda: The Windwaker for gamecube if you havent already got it... will not disappoint


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:45:20
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
i think i'll stick to my PC and my online gaming 8)


do you still have your dell xps600?


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:52:31
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
i think i'll stick to my PC and my online gaming 8)


do you still have your dell xps600?


yes mate i do. Why?


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:59:17
I remember you were upgrading it a bit that's all. Just wondered if you still had it.

I need to start paying for my pc. Got it all on a buy now pay in 9 months deal, but knowing what I'm like I best start paying for it now before it gets too late.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 11:05:11
Yeah i added the Windows XP x64 Edition, 4gig ddr2 PC5300 667mhz memory, Ge-force 7900GT 256mb.

I'm looking into upgrading it to the new XPS700/710 now though. Depends on Budget.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 11:10:38
You'd probably be best to hang fire until Vista improves a bit and also the directx10 games start coming out.

I bought a couple of XFX 7600gt fatal1ty graphics cards and put them into sli because it was cheaper than the directx10 capable cards and I'll probably wait until the games get good before I upgrade to vista and new graphics.

You going to bu a refurb again? I built my pc and now I've ironed out the problems I'm well chuffed with the performance.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 11:22:33
vista is shite in my opinion, i think its too slow


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 11:31:45
I've not used vista, but you have to have a top notch computer for it to be any good I'd imagine.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 11:50:45
Quote from: "simon pieman"
You'd probably be best to hang fire until Vista improves a bit and also the directx10 games start coming out.

I bought a couple of XFX 7600gt fatal1ty graphics cards and put them into sli because it was cheaper than the directx10 capable cards and I'll probably wait until the games get good before I upgrade to vista and new graphics.

You going to bu a refurb again? I built my pc and now I've ironed out the problems I'm well chuffed with the performance.


i'm thinking of selling all together and buying a dell xps700.
they have duel core pcu's now and better performance. not that mine is slow anyway.

not sure though tbh. my machine is Vista ready so i could just upgrade to that in time and then purchase a couple of Direct 10 cards for SLI fun


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:32:26
Yeah mate. Just pointing out that if you weight for a while you'll get more value for money.

I've got my Intel E6400 overclocked to 3ghz


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:59:07
mine is 3.6mhz with 800mhz front & 2meg cache.

it has Hyperthreding enabled too. is this good or not. can't really tell the difference tbh


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 13:06:37
Hyperthreading is supposed to improve performance.

The new Intel chips have lower clock speeds but are faster than the old chips, so if you can get a Core 2 Duo when you buy a new machine.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: magicroundabout on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 13:38:02
thats what i was thinking with a XPS700. they come with duel core and also have x16 sli motherboards where as most motherboards only support x8 SLI


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 13:46:03
i used to be a complete sony fan boy, i bought an xbox about a yea after they came out as i'd been playing a mates and it was superb. after that, i very rarely touched the ps2, ended up selling it, and then i bought a 360!

dont get me wrong, the ps3 looks like a serious piece of kit, but you gotta remember microsoft have had a hell of alot of ground to make up after coming into consoles completely green, and with games like Halo, which i dont think any game in Sony's catalogue even gets near, they're getting bloody close!


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:30:37
Quote from: "Leggett"
i used to be a complete sony fan boy, i bought an xbox about a yea after they came out as i'd been playing a mates and it was superb. after that, i very rarely touched the ps2, ended up selling it, and then i bought a 360!

dont get me wrong, the ps3 looks like a serious piece of kit, but you gotta remember microsoft have had a hell of alot of ground to make up after coming into consoles completely green, and with games like Halo, which i dont think any game in Sony's catalogue even gets near, they're getting bloody close!
yep i guess halo is an exception. What about Grand Theft Auto IV though. Any news of a 360 version?


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:52:39
as far as i know, its coming out at the same time... i may well be wrong tho.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:57:52
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/objects/907/907969.html

alas, i am correct!

and the lil trailer you've almost definately seen, that was from the xbox 360 version :D cant remember where i read that, but i distinctly remember it being the 360 it was demo'd on.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:00:03
Quote from: "Leggett"
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/objects/907/907969.html

alas, i am correct!

and the lil trailer you've almost definately seen, that was from the xbox 360 version :D cant remember where i read that, but i distinctly remember it being the 360 it was demo'd on.
ah cool. Thats good news for you 360 lot. i thought you'd be deprieved possibly one of the greatest games in future existence


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: pfi5h on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:05:36
Quote from: "Redgewell"
Quote from: "Leggett"
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/objects/907/907969.html

alas, i am correct!

and the lil trailer you've almost definately seen, that was from the xbox 360 version :D cant remember where i read that, but i distinctly remember it being the 360 it was demo'd on.
ah cool. Thats good news for you 360 lot. i thought you'd be deprieved possibly one of the greatest games in future existence


Microsoft struck a deal for extra content for GTA and for the 360 to get  it the same day as the PS3.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:06:11
hell no, we had the last GTA, no way would we not have got this one!

its based in new york aint it, if memory serves me correctly?


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:08:53
Quote from: "Leggett"
hell no, we had the last GTA, no way would we not have got this one!

its based in new york aint it, if memory serves me correctly?
I didnt realise they had san andreas on the xbox. I don't know much about the new one. I've seen one trailer and it looks immense though


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:18:00
actually, i'm lying, we didnt have san andreas. sorry  :oops:


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:19:40
Quote from: "Leggett"
actually, i'm lying, we didnt have san andreas. sorry  :oops:
you disgust me


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: pfi5h on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:25:30
GTA SA was on the xbox as was GTA3 and GTA Vice City.


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:26:17
i'm sorry ben. forgive me? for old times sake??? :P


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:26:39
aaaaaaaaaaaaah thats where i got confused then :D


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:38:26
Christ i'm confused now. Well maybe just for old times sake then leggett


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:44:59
doesnt take much hey ben? :P


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:47:34
Quote from: "Leggett"
doesnt take much hey ben? :P
No it sure doesn't. Remember that time I was in the circus?? Well all that fire eating really fucked me up. Can't even juggle two balls anymore. It's emotional Leggett. Real emotional.  you'd understand that being an emo an' all :D


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:49:50
im looking forward to the new GTA on the 360!  8)


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: Red81 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:54:40
Quote from: "Rich"
im looking forward to the new GTA on the 360!  8)
Yep looks mint. Definitely one for the wank bank...

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/action/grandtheftauto4/video_player.html?id=JnU7lzuo5b4NvT7d


Title: Pro Evo 7
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 18:39:23
Quote from: "Redgewell"
Quote from: "pfi5h"
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "Rossi"
Also there is rumours that the game will be "three times better on the PS3", I guess that means in terms of graphics?  Three times seems quite a lot, so will be interesting to see how it turns out


Of course it will  :roll:  

Funny considering that in the games that have been compared to the xbox360 the results have been neck and neck in terms of graphics.


Us Xbox360 owners hear that all the time yet some games are actually better on the 360.

Lets hope the online play improves, oh and that 18gig is just a load of rubbish by PS3 fans. That argument comes up with every new game.
I'm getting a sense of deja vu here. The age old Sega vs nintendo war. Back in the day anyone who owned a sega console would swear that their machine was the bollocks and were adamant that games were just as good graphically, etc, etc. when in reality the Snes pissed on it from a great height. Sonic the whathog?? Fact is you 360 boys out there (which is most of you i feel  :? ) you've got the sega console in the fight there fellas. The PS3's release titles are just basically straight ports from xbox360 games hence why they look neck and neck graphically. If you admit this defeat now, you'll be less disappointed in a year or so when the PS3 steps up to a gear the 360 won't be able to match.



 :wink:



ps3 will be better in a 18 months or so no doubt about that, but till then ill be quite happy playing my xbox 360 till they bing the price down of the ps3 to a reasonable price.