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Title: BOSTON
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:12:08
Fuck it

Im going over to their forum and offering some moral support


Title: BOSTON
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:15:19
I'll join you.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:16:43
Do they not have a better forum than that really crappy rivals one anywhere?


Title: BOSTON
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:23:12
Why Fred? They don't deserve to be in the league by virtue of the fact they're run by a bunch of cheating cunts and their support is abysmal anyway.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:33:41
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Why Fred? They don't deserve to be in the league by virtue of the fact they're run by a bunch of cheating cunts



Mirror ???????????????

There are plenty of fans there that, like you and I, are genuine people that scrimp and save for a match day ticket only to be fucked over.

Those are the people that I feel sorry for.

I dont ally myself to this "oh if they go out of the league then we get automatic promotion" bullshit.

Every club's fan base has it's share of wankers..................ffs we do !

Not caring that a club is about to fold is wrong IMHO. I am a football fan and always will be.

There but for the grace of God go I etc etc.

Irrespective of the Trial last year and the dodgy board and manager, as fans we need to show a common voice against these people who can so easily take down a community through their behind the scenes ambitions and dealings


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:41:44
Totally agree fred.

Only team I wouldnt care for is Franchise but thats different


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:45:58
Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Only team I wouldnt care for is Franchise but thats different


Agreed

Different kettle of fish all together


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Sade on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 20:55:45
Well said fred. I really feel for them.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 21:01:10
Dagenham & Redbridge fans will have a wry smile on their faces I'm sure.

I don't want to see them out of business and I wish them luck in finding investment but they really didn't deserve to get promoted into the football league a few years back.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 21:46:12
Quote from: "Fred Elliot"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Why Fred? They don't deserve to be in the league by virtue of the fact they're run by a bunch of cheating cunts



Mirror ???????????????

There are plenty of fans there that, like you and I, are genuine people that scrimp and save for a match day ticket only to be fucked over.

Those are the people that I feel sorry for.

I dont ally myself to this "oh if they go out of the league then we get automatic promotion" bullshit.

Every club's fan base has it's share of wankers..................ffs we do !

Not caring that a club is about to fold is wrong IMHO. I am a football fan and always will be.

There but for the grace of God go I etc etc.

Irrespective of the Trial last year and the dodgy board and manager, as fans we need to show a common voice against these people who can so easily take down a community through their behind the scenes ambitions and dealings


Their fans are supporting a team which have no place in the football league so in that respect I have no sympathy for them. So what if it's not their fault for supporting STFC?

If we were discovered to be cheating through any means, I would find it seriously difficult to continue to support STFC. It would be wrong and hypocritical of me to condone such behaviour through my continued support; but this is what the Boston fans have done.

The whole thing makes a mockery of the football league and it's punishments, especially those that have been doled out to us over the years.

They're a nothing club, I couldn't give a toss that their demise would assist our promotion push, I simply detest the fact they maintain a place in the football league based on deceit, cheating and lack of justice.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 21:53:51
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Quote from: "Fred Elliot"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Why Fred? They don't deserve to be in the league by virtue of the fact they're run by a bunch of cheating cunts



Mirror ???????????????

There are plenty of fans there that, like you and I, are genuine people that scrimp and save for a match day ticket only to be fucked over.

Those are the people that I feel sorry for.

I dont ally myself to this "oh if they go out of the league then we get automatic promotion" bullshit.

Every club's fan base has it's share of wankers..................ffs we do !

Not caring that a club is about to fold is wrong IMHO. I am a football fan and always will be.

There but for the grace of God go I etc etc.

Irrespective of the Trial last year and the dodgy board and manager, as fans we need to show a common voice against these people who can so easily take down a community through their behind the scenes ambitions and dealings


Their fans are supporting a team which have no place in the football league so in that respect I have no sympathy for them. So what if it's not their fault for supporting STFC?

If we were discovered to be cheating through any means, I would find it seriously difficult to continue to support STFC. It would be wrong and hypocritical of me to condone such behaviour through my continued support; but this is what the Boston fans have done.

The whole thing makes a mockery of the football league and it's punishments, especially those that have been doled out to us over the years.

They're a nothing club, I couldn't give a toss that their demise would assist our promotion push, I simply detest the fact they maintain a place in the football league based on deceit, cheating and lack of justice.
We were found guilty of cheating in 1990 sonic


Title: BOSTON
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 21:56:54
I was four, I didn't have any morals!


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 21:57:39
Was thinking just that Macca!

Mex and Sam must be counting their new votes as we speak   :)


Title: BOSTON
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 21:57:43
Quote from: "sonic youth"
I was four, I didn't have any morals!
Fair enough


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 21:59:50
We were indeed ................ and here we are still supporting the team we have since we were lads.

What you are saying Sonic is that we shouldn't be.

What is our position in the league based on ?

Truthful honest accounting ?, excellent PR ?, strong ties with the local community ?, relationships with the local government?

Like I said........................there but for the grace of god go I


Title: BOSTON
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:01:44
Quote from: "Bushey Boy"
Was thinking just that Macca!

Mex and Sam must be counting their new votes as we speak   :)


It's ok people will vote for me cos I'm a wannabe socialist.

Quote from: "Fred Elliot"
We were indeed ................ and here we are still supporting the team we have since we were lads.

What you are saying Sonic is that we shouldn't be.

What is our position in the league based on ?

Truthful honest accounting ?, excellent PR ?, strong ties with the local community ?, relationships with the local government?

Like I said........................there but for the grace of god go I


The difference being that Boston's fans have known the club was guilty but equally their have not been punished - yet it doesn't bother them.

We were guilty, the owners at the time were condemned and more or less all forced out and we were harshly punished. We suffered.

Boston fans haven't...now they will. Call it karma.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:06:21
No karma at all in that sonic.Believe me i wish we had got away with it in 1990 and just like the boston fans it would not of bothered me at all.I can relate to the boston situation a bit more i think because just like us back then there is nothing the fans could of done about it.

Its not about morals sonic its about idiots running football clubs and killing the clubs due to mismanagment,

This is not the fans fault in the same way it was not my fault in 1990


Title: BOSTON
Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:18:23
sonic you cant choose your football team. if some cunt upstairs is fucking you around you grin and bear it, or you get voted onto the trust board......

by the way i AM a socialist. no fucking wannnabe.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:22:40
Quote from: "red macca"
No karma at all in that sonic.Believe me i wish we had got away with it in 1990 and just like the boston fans it would not of bothered me at all.I can relate to the boston situation a bit more i think because just like us back then there is nothing the fans could of done about it.

Its not about morals sonic its about idiots running football clubs and killing the clubs due to mismanagment,

This is not the fans fault in the same way it was not my fault in 1990


It's nto the fans fault, I'm not suggesting it is - I just don't have a great deal of sympathy for them. I do feel a little sorry for them but then I don't really give a fuck about football outside Swindon :)

The point I'm trying to make is that Boston going out of business is, in my opinion, the punishment they get - whether deservedly or not - for escaping demotion despite being found guilty for illegal payments which resulted in them achieving promotion.

The only similarity between us and them is the crime, the punishment is vastly difference. That's what irks me most.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:30:25
I agree with you sonic that they didn't deserve to get promoted to the football league. The karma part, that their continuing financial irregularities has affected the football and is partly responsible for their probable relegation this season is fair enough.

Wishing that they go out of business seems like hoping for the death penalty on someone who's stolen a loaf of bread to me.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:33:29
I don't wish/hope/want them to go out of business, I don't really mind if they don't go out of business. I'm just saying that I think going bust wouldn't be entirely unjust given their past.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:36:35
ok then Sonic. I'd say that not caring that they go out of business is like not caring that someone get's the death penalty for stalking young children.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:40:01
They gave you the death penalty? That's a bit harsh.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 22:58:27
Just admit you're being overly harsh towards boston and I'll let you off. My misdemeanour's don't come into it.


Title: BOSTON
Post by: axs on Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 23:22:04
i still don't want to be promoted on the strength of some cunt in a boardroom in licolnshire being a prick, what an anticlimax that would be.