Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Arriba on Friday, April 20, 2007, 11:57:27 fair play i say.now they will be at a realistic price for league 1(touch wood)
i would have scrapped the pay extra on the day prices though. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: reeves4england on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:00:08 Considering that probably makes the club an extra £3000 or so per game (with an average attendace) I see no problem. Nobody forces you to pay on the day
Title: Re: ticket prices frozen Post by: mattboyslim on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:03:19 Quote from: "arriba" fair play i say.now they will be at a realistic price for league 1(touch wood) i would have scrapped the pay extra on the day prices though. I'm sure there is a compelling argument for it, but with a fanbase including so many outside the borough, and a population living in Swindon who are often informal in their attendance - ie late decisions depending on the weather etc, it doesn't take a business analyst to figure out that it's not necessarily the best idea. They would be clever to perhaps look at offering ticket bundles - ie by 4 matches and save £2 -they get some guaranteed income - and it makes it easy for the out of towners to get a few tickets in a go - a bit like the half season ticket but not such good value. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Arriba on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:09:26 it discriminates against those that for whatever reason cant get tickets in advance.
but overall ticket prices are without doubt better value for money than they have been for years.its well overdue mind Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: rudeboydreas on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:12:13 Quote from: "arriba" it discriminates against those that for whatever reason cant get tickets in advance. So this is a person without a phone (or access to a phone!!) and no internet. There is no such thing as people who cannot get tickets in advance surely? Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: mattboyslim on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:14:39 IIRC phone booking incur booking fees - correct me if I made that up.
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: larwood on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:14:44 Quote from: "rudeboydreas" Quote from: "arriba" it discriminates against those that for whatever reason cant get tickets in advance. So this is a person without a phone (or access to a phone!!) and no internet. There is no such thing as people who cannot get tickets in advance surely? Well not everyone has credit cards with which to buy tickets over the phone/internet. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: rudeboydreas on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:17:10 Quote from: "larwood" Quote from: "rudeboydreas" Quote from: "arriba" it discriminates against those that for whatever reason cant get tickets in advance. So this is a person without a phone (or access to a phone!!) and no internet. There is no such thing as people who cannot get tickets in advance surely? Well not everyone has credit cards with which to buy tickets over the phone/internet. Yeah I did think of that. Never done it, so don't know, but do they not take switch etc? Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Arriba on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:17:10 plus you pay extra for that service too rudeboy
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Piemonte on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:17:10 But most people CAN get tickets in advance if they are organised. Phone and reserve them.
I dont have a gret deal of sympathy for those who complian about it to be honest. I'm fairly happy. £11.40 a game in the town end (ST renewal) is decent value, as is £14.?? for the main stands. Getting the £10 voucher and 10% discount also means I can get the new shirt for under £20, which aint too bad either. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: mattboyslim on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:30:55 But the point is it puts off the casual fans - the hardcore - ie those who post on here in the main will go whatever, the chelsea 'fan' who fancies watching the match but doesn't decide until late mightn't bother. For me come the autumn when I live in Birmingham I will either need to pay to book my tickets or get people to buy them for me or pay on the day, unless I buy them at the previous game which can be 3 weeks in advance. Our fanbase demography is well known, yet constantly ignored.
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Give us an S on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:40:12 To be honest i think if the teams winning people will go. If they are losing less will go. Yes prices effect it, but attendances reflect results.
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Piemonte on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:48:43 Quote from: "mattboyslim" But the point is it puts off the casual fans - the hardcore - ie those who post on here in the main will go whatever, the chelsea 'fan' who fancies watching the match but doesn't decide until late mightn't bother. For me come the autumn when I live in Birmingham I will either need to pay to book my tickets or get people to buy them for me or pay on the day, unless I buy them at the previous game which can be 3 weeks in advance. Our fanbase demography is well known, yet constantly ignored. Its £2. I find it hard to believe that some Chelsea glory hunter is going to decide not to come and watch STFC over £2. Its not even a pint! Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: RobertT on Friday, April 20, 2007, 12:57:37 £2 is neither here nor there, £20 is though. That's 2 unlimited monthly movie passes for the cinema for example. This is where the issue is, and it's not just this club that is to blame. Football in general is overpriced.
Just look at the way people have lapped up the £5 tickets this weekend, shows that pricing can influence decisions whether we like it or not. I think the ticket pricing is generally unimaginative anyway, as a business they should be working out how much people spend on a matchday as opposed to how much a ticket should be to break even. Figure out if schemes like this Saturday on the Bank actually fund themselves (wouldn't take a rocket scientist to realise they could stick a market stall style thing at the entrance to the Bank and flog some club shop stuff for example - people will be much more willing to spend money knowing they only spent £5 getting in). For £40ish you can get into Port Aventura for 2 days I think. Spend a load while you are in there though. For the price of Reading ticket you can get into one of the parks at Disney World. Bet I know which one think is better value for money, but that same place probably also rakes in to 10 times the spend in total per person. Just needs a bit of thought rather than relying on good old fashioned fan loyalty which is fast drying up around the Country. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: mattboyslim on Friday, April 20, 2007, 13:05:40 Very True - premiership football is overpriced TV money is so much that gate recepits are neglible to the biggest clubs. At our level it is the bread and butter -hence clubs pushing fan loyalty to its extremes -therefore the massive overpricing.
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: RobertT on Friday, April 20, 2007, 13:17:07 That's the point though. If you look at the turnover of STFC (when we can find accounts) it's pretty much the same now as it was 10 years ago but prices are well-up. Says to me that they;ve focussed on the "easy" option and have little idea how to plug the gap any other way.
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Piemonte on Friday, April 20, 2007, 13:32:43 Quote from: "RobertT" £2 is neither here nor there, £20 is though. That's 2 unlimited monthly movie passes for the cinema for example. This is where the issue is, and it's not just this club that is to blame. Football in general is overpriced. Just look at the way people have lapped up the £5 tickets this weekend, shows that pricing can influence decisions whether we like it or not. I think the ticket pricing is generally unimaginative anyway, as a business they should be working out how much people spend on a matchday as opposed to how much a ticket should be to break even. Figure out if schemes like this Saturday on the Bank actually fund themselves (wouldn't take a rocket scientist to realise they could stick a market stall style thing at the entrance to the Bank and flog some club shop stuff for example - people will be much more willing to spend money knowing they only spent £5 getting in). For £40ish you can get into Port Aventura for 2 days I think. Spend a load while you are in there though. For the price of Reading ticket you can get into one of the parks at Disney World. Bet I know which one think is better value for money, but that same place probably also rakes in to 10 times the spend in total per person. Just needs a bit of thought rather than relying on good old fashioned fan loyalty which is fast drying up around the Country. Thats my point. Its not the £2 increase for pay on the day thats the problem its the fact its £18 to start with. I would agree that it is a football wide problem though but in many ways the lower league clubs are doing more about it. Even our numpties on the board let u7's in free and charge £69 for a kids season ticket now. An arsenal supporting mate has got a ticket for the game v chelsea in a few weeks. Cheapest price he could get? £65. 60% of which will find its way into the pocket of a player who is already a millionaire. what a fucking pisstake. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: RobertT on Friday, April 20, 2007, 13:39:17 yep, although it does seem that some have had a wake-up moment this season in the game (how long it lasts is another question).
I just think it shouldn't be that hard to see how the offer this week sparks something in the local area. It gets the club noticed, sparks interest in casual fans, lets the regulars think they are getting a bit of a reward etc. It builds a positive feeling, it may also lead to people still spending money on the matchday, probably more than they would normally. I'm not saying all games should be £5, but it just looks so bloody obvious that pricing at football is so lacking in imagination, they've just gone "put the fucking things up, that'll make more money" Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, April 20, 2007, 13:51:12 it's the basic principle of supply and demand. If people pay the prices then the business will keep charging them.
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: fatbury on Friday, April 20, 2007, 14:21:46 [quote="Piemonte"An arsenal supporting mate has got a ticket for the game v chelsea in a few weeks. Cheapest price he could get? £65. 60% of which will find its way into the pocket of a player who is already a millionaire. what a fucking pisstake.[/quote]
I got a ticket for £35 the other month at Arsenal Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Piemonte on Friday, April 20, 2007, 14:29:13 Quote from: "fatbury" [quote="Piemonte"An arsenal supporting mate has got a ticket for the game v chelsea in a few weeks. Cheapest price he could get? £65. 60% of which will find its way into the pocket of a player who is already a millionaire. what a fucking pisstake. I got a ticket for £35 the other month at Arsenal[/quote] Was that in the cheap seats against an not very glamourous side by any chance? Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: stfc11 on Friday, April 20, 2007, 15:27:59 Anyone else notice on the leaflet thing, that the Nationwide Stand is now called the South Stand on it? Are Nationwide not sponsoring that stand next season?
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Spud on Friday, April 20, 2007, 15:31:11 Quote from: "stfc11" Anyone else notice on the leaflet thing, that the Nationwide Stand is now called the South Stand on it? Are Nationwide not sponsoring that stand next season? I guess not seeing as they pulled the plug on the shirt sponsorship. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Ralphy on Friday, April 20, 2007, 15:33:13 Fatbury, do you support Swindon or Arsenal?
Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: sonic youth on Friday, April 20, 2007, 15:54:42 It's still a little expensive for League One, particularly if you pay on the day, but freezing prices was the correct decision but equally perhaps the only decision.
I'm not convinced by the cheap ticket = big crowd theory as there are so many mitigating circumstances. Would we be on course for a big crowd this weekend if it wasn't for the lovely weather and potential of promotion? I sincerely doubt it. IIRC, we tried a couple of price reductions last season which had no noticeable effect. Our crowds fluctuate because whilst we rely on a hardcore fanbase of 3,000 or so, there are a large number who can't make it every week due to distance or cost or simply because they don't want to watch football every weekend. I'd be interested to know how many games a season ticket holder misses on average, I know a bloke who has a season ticket but misses half the games as he travels in the winter and then umpires cricket in the summer, if this sort of variance in attendance is fairly common then you can attribute the fluctuation in attendance to that as well. I'll probably buy a season ticket regardless of who is in charge simply because it'll be cheaper. Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, April 20, 2007, 16:28:05 Quote from: "sonic youth" I'd be interested to know how many games a season ticket holder misses on average, I know a bloke who has a season ticket but misses half the games as he travels in the winter and then umpires cricket in the summer, if this sort of variance in attendance is fairly common then you can attribute the fluctuation in attendance to that as well. Two, because my missus booked a fucking holiday in October :x Title: ticket prices frozen Post by: RobertT on Friday, April 20, 2007, 16:57:35 Rotherham last season stands out as a game with a decent attendance given the actual performance of the team and position at the time, close to 8000 when the average was around 5000 at the time.
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