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and another unammed 16 year old to chelsea.  Just heard, anyone else heard?

Fatbury hasn't said nothing yet. Not true.

Is he fuck

Dont think so somehow.

do you have the name of the 16 year old?

 :nod:

No, it was from a freinds father who works closely with youth groups, meeting them for some dinner later so will find out moreJust what I heard.

If he's signed pro forms (Which I believe he has) he can't go anywhere until the summer anyway.

Lukas is on a big contract aswell so we'll get a fair bit of money for him.

Aye, we would - be just like this board to sell for a big sum - not tell us what it was - then cut and run leaving somebody else to pick up the pieces! :twisted:

he hasn't really done anything yet though so i'm not convinced that we'd really get all that much cash for him at all.

If true, then i don't think its a major loss.  He hasn't been playing reguarly this season, and i guess he'd hit his prime for Town probably the season after next.

Now i've said that, in 3 seasons time, he'll probably end up scoring 10-15 goals in the premship :-))(

maybe that's the board's 5 year plan... lukas to be playing in the premiership by 2011.

We all rate Lukas - well most of us anyway - but how good is he?  Compare him to Chris Martin at Norwich, 4 goals in 4 games in the championship.  He is still at school, believe it or not, and has yet to sign a professional contract!  :o

plus he's married to gwyneth paltrow and still has time to front a band.

not bad for a kid.

I'm not saying it's true, but if the Board sold Lukas to pay the cva, I'm sure alot more fans of stfc will be pissed off with the Board than there are now

That's what I was thinking. 'Re-structuring' I think they call it..

you dont progress by selling your best players.

He's on a 3 year deal, we dont have to sell.....but I expect we will.

If it does happen I can see the usual 'money will be available' line that often gets spouted. Will people fall for it this time? Probably.

This board will get away with it, they have been let get away with everything else

I cannot see many season ticket renewals next year if things dont change to be honest

You may be right fatters

At least that would be something.

The money we received for Sam Parkin did absolutely nothing. Just lined pockets in Newbury.

yet Liverpool are willing to pay £100,000 for a 16 yr old from Ross County

he's just started a 4 year deal. So he's our for a fair while yet.

Did you find out more?

Yeah DV, you tell em!

We're probably the only team in League 2, or even League 1, that would consider selling one of our promising young players to a Premiership club!

No other Board would ever contemplate such a move....................

All I found out was its come fom within the club and high up.  All agreed but no annoucement yet.  So basically I just got told it will be coming.  Who knwos it ofs true but this bloke is uaully right

who is the 16 year old linked with chelsea bushey?

Lukas isn't on a BIG contract, just a 3 year pro deal.  Salary wise many on this forum may be on more.  Can't see it being big money, those that have from the lower leagues have usually played a good number of first team games.

calum

However just been toild this was confidential, oops

its a different lad to the one i thought

Dont go all Fattbart on us arriba

 :wink:

i dont bullshit though :)

true

very true

if he goes ill be totally pissed off! why sell one of our brightest prospects for a while? this pathetic board will do anything to stay in power! they dont give a shite if we'll be in the southern league as long as they are still in charge

Absolute gash Bushey mate by the sounds of it. Unless people have a name for a source dont say you've got one!

A friends father who does work with the youth department says it, im not stitching a name, only time will tell I guess

Im with Bushy on this one

Its not as if he has come on here all Fatbart-esque and given the "I know something that you dont know" speil

I still wouldnt sell...

We've done it time and time again.....even back as far as Fjortoft and Shearer...

Heard about the 16 year old off to Chelskie the other day. Cant remember the source though. Might even have been the radio but I could be imagining it. I hear its a swap deal for Shevchenko (diving cunt)

Dont want him - weve got Roberts

Crystal Palace boss Peter Taylor has blasted Chelsea and Arsenal for trying to poach 15-year-old midfielder John Bostock.

(Daily Express)

Sturrock has been pushing to sell Lukas for ages so thats not a surprise really.

The only interest Ive heard about in our youth team was for young Billy Bodin (Paul's son).

(Btw - I am not Bart - this IS my first post on this topic)

Yes thats right of course he has  :roll:

Of course your'e not Fatbart

You know FARTBURRY, there is someone you can see about schizophrenia, you don't have to be embarrassed about it.

Did you smoke to much weed when you were younger?

Yet more inane ramblings from an unhinged mind.

You must do it for attention........................

Have you heard of Walter Mitty?

It will happen guys

I don't think Batbury and Fart are the same person. But I do think they are the first TEF tag team

Can we take a reality check here?

If any premiership club was interested in any player, from any team, in our league, then that player would go:

The player would WANT to go, as it's a great move.

The Club would WANT to sell, as it would generate some cash.

If Lukas goes, good luck to him. You can't equate it to the selling of Shearer, or Fallon, both those players were first team regulars, both top scorers when they were sold. Lukas is a fair way off being the finished article.

If the club can get some cash for him why not?

Obviously Lukas could be mega star - equally he could be a robin Hulbert, offered £250k for him, turned it down, and he was rubbish.  Provided we get genuine good value, and a good sell on, then I'd sell - it's nigh on impossible to stop a league two player going to a decent prem team if they offer.  You don't miss what you've never had, and Lukas has played less than 20 games for us, at this stage I'd not exactly call him part of the spine of the team in the same way that Shearer, SSP, Fallon adn JAF were.

How can you not see that Sturrock has been touting young Lukas - it was as clear as day in the paper the other week when the youth cup matches were on - I can only assume that he is thinking that Lukas isnt as good as the hype and someone might give us some money for him that he isnt worth - in his opinion. Especially as he is about the only player the board can make any realistic money on. And thats basically what it is about - making the board money - nothing else.

As I said though I hadnt heard anything about this so its probably a rumour coming from somewhere - to clarify on Bodin's son I heard that Chelsea had a regular scout checking him out

Selling Lukas is the right move.

He hasn't proved himself and we need the money. He has potential, but has yet to set the world alight.

Remember, he hasn't done anything amazing, he may get to 27 and be in the lower leagues and rubbish, i say sell him while there is potential. After all, he may never come good, let a richer club take the risk and we get cash in the mean time.

So what did he actually say that led you to this conclusion?

I remember him saying that Lukas could go all the way, but I cn't remember him putting out a two page ad in Exchange and Mart: 'Promising young player, only one owner from new, sensible offers only'.

Or perhaps I missed it................................................

He said

A) Lukas had a lot of potential
B) there were loads of scouts there and you dont need to be a rocket scientist to work out who they were watching.

Hardly touting him about is it?

Some people need to take a reality pill, we are not a big club and never will be. Every one of our players has a price and always will do, regardless of who owns or runs the club.  That said, I wont be overly happy if we sell our brightest prospect for years, but thats life supprting a lower league club.

The fact that Lukas has 3 yearson his contract means fuck all, other than we get to deciede the fee rather than a tribunal.

I've been trying to figure out what I would consider a fair price for Lukas. My personal feelings are around £500k + percantage of sell on clause.

John Stead went for £1.2 m from Huddersfield who were in L2 at the time I believe? He was slightly older but was starting and scoring regually at the time.

The only problem with all of this is that I have very little faith in the likes of Mike D to negoitate a good deal for STFC.

I actually find myself agreeing with Piemonte!

I think this is the main worry for me as well

i reckon£150,000- £200,000 would be around the amount we'd get for lucas

I'd go with that as well.  Around £400k for Parkin would suggest a lower figure of Lukas.

But Lukas is 17, Parkin was 24 (?)  Any club would be buying potential

Potential equates to a low initial fee then bonuses dependant on progression and appearances plus a sell-on.

be in the millions then......we know what the current board value 'potential' at don't we!!!

Agreed. He is a good prospect, that's all. He lacks top class pace and has a lot to learn.  Cash in if we get a reasonable offer (I'd say anything in excess of £100k + future sell on)

Selling no players is the right move.

We havnt had a better player come in than the 1 thats just gone out since summer 2003. The board have put us in terminal decline. And you apologists who see their rationale are only kidding yourselves that we will then go out and buy new players. Because this board doesnt do that.

Stop seeing sense. You're not accountants. You are football fans.

I'm not an apologist, I'm a realist.

Lower league clubs sell players to higher league clubs.

That's the way it's always been.

Even if the Consortium were in charge, if a club the size of Everton came in for a player, they'd sell.

Take your anti board spectacles off FFS!

If he goes, it will be an end of season deal anyway because the window is closed...unless they come up with some convoluted loan deal till the end of the season, and then make it permanent, and if the latter happened luggy would get a walking boot down his shin!!!

 :P

I'd be very, very surprised if Everton want him in their first team just yet.

I think if it happens, it'll happen in the summer.

Every time I've seen Lukas play I have thought he as shit. He just runs around and doesn't do anything (although I concede if the Everton Scout was there for the Wycombe game only then he probably would think he is quality; that was a brilliant goal).

dont sell, we should be playing him everything week...he's the best striker we've got and he'll score goals at this level if we actually play him upfront for a decent amount of time.

You want to save money, rip up Roberts contracts and tell him to fuck off.

I want my club to progress, I want us to show ambition and keep our decent players, and Lukas is one of them.

Dont care how old he is, or how much he has proved to you lot (first season as a pro ffs!) he'd be in my starting 11 every week no problem.

Too true

and his attitude is spot on, he will work until he is blowing out of his arse.

Which is more than can be said for some of the wasters we EMPLOY who think they are a fucking cut above this league.

Well let me tell you something, you are not fucking good enough for this league.

Go and join the scum

1st of all Fuck off.

If the consortium were in charge I might have some faith that we might get a replacement player. For instance when we sold Fallon, Bill Power paid for Lee Peacock. Good business all round.

As for my 'anti board spectacles' were in division 4 because there is has been no proper investment in the team from THIS board since 2003. Free transfers and 3 month loans get you relegated and always have. I dont have anti board spectacles. I hate the board. End of.

Theres a right way and a wrong way. I refuse to accept that the finances of STFC are tied to the current board. Youre attitude IS an apology for the miserable state this football club has become.

I very much doubt we will get a decent sum for Lukas. And even if we did I have no faith whatsoever that the money would do Swindon Town FOOTBALL CLUB any good.

Firstly, you're a twat.

Power paid for Peacock? What a load of complete bollocks! Peacock was signed in January 2006.

Do I want Lukas to go? Probably not.

Do I think that any money received for him will be wisely invested?
Don't know, but looking at their track record, doubtful.

What I was saying, irrespective of the above, is that if a Premiership Club comes in for a lower league player, the lower league club will sell.

Apparently I have to moan about the board on every post, or I'm an apologist. What a load of wank.

27th January 2006. Devlin and Power made that deal happen. End of.

The lower league club will sell? Even if the money is absolutely derisory? And you are OK with that?

No.

Have I missed something here then?

Who's said Lukas is off to Everton?

"Errrrr, not that i know of!"

Directly from the horses mouth after the game. Not that i'm calling him a horse

yup he asked after the game behind the Arkells and seemed like he knew nothing of the rumour. wouldn't be surprised if the board still sold him anyway

I know a mate who's a Watford scout and he rekons there are at least 15 Prem and Championship clubs watching Lukas. A fair few are comming for league games only to be dissapointed he's not playing. The Newcastle youth game was rammed with scouts.

Someone will make a bid soon. The board might just be stupid enough to take the first offer with the desperation stakes of June the 30th looming.

Yep....i heard it from the horses mouth too. And his mummy was there to walk him home...aaawwwwww bless.